Rift: Planes of Telara

[Lakov_Sanite]

Nope, this is not the case.  There are a variety of different types of Rifts.  Council Events, escorts, kills, multiple bosses, waves of mobs coming at you you need to defend etc. etc.

There are plenty of reasons to farm Minor Rifts at 50. 

I'm still suffering from alt-itis and haven't gone past 30 yet.  I am sure there are lots of nice things at end game that I will see but that has fuckall to do with it since a lot of people aren't there or going to be there for a while.

[Draegan]

Nope, this is not the case.  There are a variety of different types of Rifts.  Council Events, escorts, kills, multiple bosses, waves of mobs coming at you you need to defend etc. etc.

There are plenty of reasons to farm Minor Rifts at 50. 

I'm still suffering from alt-itis and haven't gone past 30 yet.  I am sure there are lots of nice things at end game that I will see but that has fuckall to do with it since a lot of people aren't there or going to be there for a while.

You just seem quite bitter. 

[Lantyssa]

You just seem quite bitter. 

His avatar is actually in full color.  This is the world he lives in.

[Chinchilla]

So what do u guys think of this game overall?

[Ghambit]

So what do u guys think of this game overall?

Definitely worth $50 and a free month.  Beyond that, ymmv depending on tastes.
The key to fun?  Good groups/guilds, as usual.

[Ragnoros]

So what do u guys think of this game overall?

I failed to find the fun. It is a generic diku clone to the core. Pity, bards are neat.

[Spiff]

After having resisted WoW for all those years, Rift actually got me considering ordering it, somewhere between beta 3 and 4 ... it passed and I didn't, but still a testament to the quality of the game  .

Only 2 things can hook me on a game like this for longer than a week or 2:
- a story I actively want to follow/finish (LoTRO got me to play for quite some time because of that)
- player drama (i.e. open world pvp that is slightly deeper than a random gank once in a while)

I was hoping for more of the second in Rift, they went another route.
All other quality (however abundant) is subject to those conditions really, if you want me to sub.

[Threash]

There is a lot more of that in Rift than in any other game i've played apart from Shadowbane because of the simple fact that you can talk to the other faction.

[snowwy]

There is a lot more of that in Rift than in any other game i've played apart from Shadowbane because of the simple fact that you can talk to the other faction.

Hell, i'm having trouble seeing people talk to their own faction. Then again i haven't seen more than two level ?? at 26 myself. PvP server my ass......

[Setanta]

Hell, i'm having trouble seeing people talk to their own faction. Then again i haven't seen more than two level ?? at 26 myself. PvP server my ass......

This^^^ As a MMO it makes  a very good single player RPG.

Then again, WoW has become an equivalent of this as well.

[Threash]

Zone wide events in contested zones is what world pvp should be like.  That was the most fucking fun i've had in ages.

[Ard]

Ditto on that, and I'm doing this on a pve server, and I still personally managed to cause a war to break out over an invasion boss tonight in scarlet gorge.  It's almost amazing how often people show up to those events flagged due to the ancient wardstones, and how that quickly snowballs into a full on brawl.

[Shatter]

Ive seen of the most cilvilized pvp in Rift compared to other open world pvp games.  Ive had numerous instances now where I was fighting someone and members of their faction stood and watched or just passed by to let us go at it without jumping in to gank.  Ive also had 2 fights where we both decided to truce after fighting for 5 miuntes and sat to shoot the shit for a bit after talking about our builds. 

[Nebu]

So what do u guys think of this game overall?

Definitely worth $50 and a free month.  Beyond that, ymmv depending on tastes.
The key to fun?  Good groups/guilds, as usual.

Agree 100%.  Well worth the box cost solo.  Not sure it's worth a subscription unless you have a group of friends to grind with.  Standard MMO with random spawn-y type things. 

[Dark_MadMax]

Ive seen of the most cilvilized pvp in Rift compared to other open world pvp games.  Ive had numerous instances now where I was fighting someone and members of their faction stood and watched or just passed by to let us go at it without jumping in to gank.  Ive also had 2 fights where we both decided to truce after fighting for 5 miuntes and sat to shoot the shit for a bit after talking about our builds. 

Yeah this was quite strange. I am playing on supposedly "gank central" server - briarcliff (aka broqueue) and there was quite  several occasion when opposing faction didnt gank  me and just patiently waited till I kill quest mob , even helped me kill it . That happened on 2 separate occasions . There was also many times reds in the distance didnt engage me - often to their peril as  I personally gank at every opportunity. - Trying to teach people "red is dead rule" - if you dont kill red it will kill you :)

In beta actually I had opposite faction guy showing me all puzzle locations in their zone  and how to do them  - but it was rival guild which we often fought (in fact we had long town fight just before that)

[Morfiend]

Ive seen of the most cilvilized pvp in Rift compared to other open world pvp games.  Ive had numerous instances now where I was fighting someone and members of their faction stood and watched or just passed by to let us go at it without jumping in to gank.  Ive also had 2 fights where we both decided to truce after fighting for 5 miuntes and sat to shoot the shit for a bit after talking about our builds. 

Yeah this was quite strange. I am playing on supposedly "gank central" server - briarcliff (aka broqueue) and there was quite  several occasion when opposing faction didnt gank  me and just patiently waited till I kill quest mob , even helped me kill it . That happened on 2 separate occasions . There was also many times reds in the distance didnt engage me - often to their peril as  I personally gank at every opportunity. - Trying to teach people "red is dead rule" - if you dont kill red it will kill you :)

In beta actually I had opposite faction guy showing me all puzzle locations in their zone  and how to do them  - but it was rival guild which we often fought (in fact we had long town fight just before that)

You embrace those stereotypes as hard as you can and no matter what anyone tells you, don't let go.

[Lantyssa]

I think I like that you can talk to the other side.  I'll frequently help newbies in areas I'm exploring or running through in games.

[Soulflame]

The one time I have seen enemies outside of a BG (on Briarcliff) four or five level 30+ guardians ganked me while I was in the middle of an escort quest.   

[Lakov_Sanite]

People are universally nicer in the opening days of an MMO. I'm not sure why exactly, maybe its the newness and everyone is still having lots of fun but as the days wear on, so do the gankers rise.

[Nija]

People are universally nicer in the opening days of an MMO. I'm not sure why exactly, maybe its the newness and everyone is still having lots of fun but as the days wear on, so do the gankers rise.

It's a confidence thing. They aren't quite sure how powerful they are and how powerful the target is. You can see the same scenario play out on IPY2.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Whatever the case, players and their cross-faction friends will be sitting down, chatting and roleplaying about non combat pets when off in the distance they will hear a noise not unlike a flock of birds.  As they speak of specs, builds for pvp and for raiding the noise will grow louder and louder still. When they finally take note and turn their heads it will be too late, for cresting over the hillside will be not one, not five but a raiding party of gankers.  They will set upon the honorable pvp'ers as a mob of ravenous animals, hungry for flesh. Even their own faction will not be spared and while they cannot be injured, such vicious insults will be hurled until the words 'care bear' are etched deep into their very soul.

Beware, the gankening.

[palmer_eldritch]

My happiest moments in WoW involved shooting up warriors at long distance with my ice mage, so that they froze to the spot and had no chance of fighting back. Second happiest involve sneaking up on some hunter as he was fighting a mob and killing his pet before killing him.

It's the only attitude to have if you are going to play a PvP game and enjoy it. If you're hoping for honour or fair fights, you're only going to end up dissapointed and bitter (I mean, sooner than you would have done otherwise).

If I don't want that type of PvP I just play PVE games, which I also enjoy (I'm pretty much a carebear).

[Modern Angel]

I had a guy take a Scarwood raid boss, last bit of an invasion, from us Defiants and kite him over to the main Guardian quest hub. This destroyed their quest hub for the next bit, and they got zero reward for it, but it was so wonderfully spiteful I was laughing my ass off.

[kaid]

My happiest moments in WoW involved shooting up warriors at long distance with my ice mage, so that they froze to the spot and had no chance of fighting back. Second happiest involve sneaking up on some hunter as he was fighting a mob and killing his pet before killing him.

It's the only attitude to have if you are going to play a PvP game and enjoy it. If you're hoping for honour or fair fights, you're only going to end up dissapointed and bitter (I mean, sooner than you would have done otherwise).

If I don't want that type of PvP I just play PVE games, which I also enjoy (I'm pretty much a carebear).

Yup if you are in an open PVP realm the goal is not really pvp it is ganking. Setting the fight up so the other guy will lose and die horribly at little or no risk to yourself.

This is one reason I would never go on an open pvp realm in any mmo. It almost always will degenerate into bottom feeding and ganking vs people who have no chance at all to protect themselves. If a level 50 can work his way into a level 1 to 20 zone no amount of skill or smarts will keep the fights from being anything other than one sided gank fests. In any game that has levels and gear it is nearly impossible to have any decent open field pvp that does not degenerate into the worst kind of cluster fuck of ganking over time.

[Dark_MadMax]

My happiest moments in WoW involved shooting up warriors at long distance with my ice mage, so that they froze to the spot and had no chance of fighting back. Second happiest involve sneaking up on some hunter as he was fighting a mob and killing his pet before killing him.

It's the only attitude to have if you are going to play a PvP game and enjoy it. If you're hoping for honour or fair fights, you're only going to end up dissapointed and bitter (I mean, sooner than you would have done otherwise).

If I don't want that type of PvP I just play PVE games, which I also enjoy (I'm pretty much a carebear).

Very well said.   Ganking unlimited is big part of open pvp setup and is the spice which has certain audience. People who dont like it should play pve.

 Though with today meangless deaths it still puzzles my how people  being ganked sill  bitch to no end . I mean it used you lost your items and had to do long corpse runs. Now days its just 1 minute tops run from rez point and you dont lose anything.

[Bzalthek]

You people never cease to amuse me.  Just as long as you remain in your cage.

[Ashamanchill]

So I finally got to play this on Saturday, problem is, I guess my graphics card sucks and I have to run it on low just to maintain a half decent frame rate, and it basically looks like EQ1 at this setting. Any tips for eking out the best from it?

[Rasix]

So I finally got to play this on Saturday, problem is, I guess my graphics card sucks and I have to run it on low just to maintain a half decent frame rate, and it basically looks like EQ1 at this setting. Any tips for eking out the best from it?

What kind of card are you running?  My 8800 GTS ran it just fine.

[Shatter]

So I finally got to play this on Saturday, problem is, I guess my graphics card sucks and I have to run it on low just to maintain a half decent frame rate, and it basically looks like EQ1 at this setting. Any tips for eking out the best from it?

Thats one shitty card you got thar

[Ashamanchill]

GeForce 9500 GT

[UnSub]

People are universally nicer in the opening days of an MMO. I'm not sure why exactly, maybe its the newness and everyone is still having lots of fun but as the days wear on, so do the gankers rise.

It's a confidence thing. They aren't quite sure how powerful they are and how powerful the target is. You can see the same scenario play out on IPY2.

The hardcore gankers are also probably off perfecting exploits or getting loot that will give them the edge or working out the best gank spots. Ganking in the early days of a game has a higher degree of risk (as mentioned) so it is approached more carefully. A month or two in and the best ganking builds / techniques have been worked out.

[Nija]

The hardcore gankers are also probably off perfecting exploits or getting loot that will give them the edge or working out the best gank spots. Ganking in the early days of a game has a higher degree of risk (as mentioned) so it is approached more carefully. A month or two in and the best ganking builds / techniques have been worked out.

You are absolutely correct - that's another angle to it. Time is better spent getting ahead (at this point, in general) grinding stuff and advancing levels than keeping others from advancing themselves. My only reference right now is based on UO IPY2.

[WindupAtheist]

So's there any sub info for this game yet? I kinda suspect they're doing well so far, based on the totally unscientific fact that we're going into day three of the f13 WoW subform lying completely abandoned.

[Mrbloodworth]

Has it been a month?

[Nebu]

Has it been a month?

No. 

I can say that retention is going to be a problem for this game unless they make some significant changes.  Right now it feels too much like WAR did at release.  Fun and exciting at first, but gets old fast.