Torchlight - Runic Games

[Aez]

According to the FB Torchlight group,
"Direct2Drive is offering $5 off. Now only $15 for this masterpiece! Use code 5OFFTORCH"

I thought 20 bucks was a reasonable price, 15's a steal.

I feel like I'm completely missing something when I read this thread because when I finished Torchlight I regretting spending the $20 on it.  I think I would of had more fun just re-installing Diablo 2 or Titan Quest and playing through. 

You fail.  Did you finish this on normal and complain there's no challenge?  Torchlight is about 10 time better than TitanQuest. It would also be better than DIablo 2 if it had mutliplayer - the mmo version should do it.

[Thrawn]

You fail.  Did you finish this on normal and complain there's no challenge?  Torchlight is about 10 time better than TitanQuest. It would also be better than DIablo 2 if it had mutliplayer - the mmo version should do it.

I finished it on hard and complained there's no challenge, I had already read threads here saying it was too easy on normal.  But the difficulty wasn't even my main complaint, I just didn't find it that fun.  Enjoyable enough that I played through it, but not enough that I would ever recommend it to anyone.

[ffc]

Torchlight is about 10 time better than TitanQuest.

Why do you say that?  I had enough fun with Torchlight it prompted me to try Titan Quest.  Titan Quest has nice voice acting for quests and looks gorgeous at 1920x1080 with everything on high.  Torchlight is more streamlined and the spells look better.  Game play in both is largely the same.  Titan Quest of course has multiplayer.  I don't see how either is much better than the other.  Right now I prefer Titan Quest's style.

[Aez]

Like most thing, it depend on your taste.  For me :

Titan Quest problem was :
Couldn't chose game difficulty and the game was fairly long to complete : I literally felt asleep on normal difficulty (like I sometime fell asleep in fornt of TV)
Horrible, horrible, horrible balance + multilayer : I had a storm/death friend who was insta killing everything. Playing with him was worse than single player
Horrible, horrible, horrible balance within a class : some skill were absolutely useless.  I didn't feel Í could build my own character - had to chose the few skill that actually did something

I like Torchight better because :
Could start on very hard
The action part is better, I'm dodging attacks and planning fights in choke points
The boss have patterns like an action game
They got the economy right - I'm always short on cash
Haven't not tested allot of builds but I tried an eccentric build and it's actually working

[Yegolev]

I cannot get behind any sort of disrespect of Titan Quest.  Not perfect by any means but as far as DII:LoD clones, I can't think of a better one.  It was indeed fucking long... not sure I finished it even with multiple characters.  I pretend it does not have a end, or a plot.

I also cannot get behind the balance talk simply because of the huge amount of class/skill combinations it had.  I don't know where this idea came from that people expect every arrangement of possible skills to be equally powerful.  I can see how it is annoying in multiplayer, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather have all those various skills instead of a smaller set... plus who knows when or if it would have come out if they tried to balance it like a DIKU MOG?  Some of the skills were crap, yes.  Somehow this did not ruin the fun for me.  Probably because I have given up on MP Diablo.

I only rank Torchlight below TQ because of scope.  Torchlight is a teaser for me.  I am hoping the real game is the bestest thing evar.

[Musashi]

Torchlight does right what Titan Quest does wrong.  That is namely, awesome skills.  Yes there were a lot of skills and combinations in Titan Quest.  Mostly all of them were pretty fucking boring.  Also, when the game first came out all the melee characters were total balls.  That said, I didn't hate it.  I just don't think it's as good as Torchlight for that reason alone.

[Thrawn]

Torchlight does right what Titan Quest does wrong.  That is namely, awesome skills.  Yes there were a lot of skills and combinations in Titan Quest.  Mostly all of them were pretty fucking boring.  Also, when the game first came out all the melee characters were total balls.  That said, I didn't hate it.  I just don't think it's as good as Torchlight for that reason alone.

Put points in ranged/crid/mf stuff, then I spammed explosive shot pretty much entire the game and breezed through hard no problem.  Didn't exactly strike me as awsome skills.

[rattran]

Well, yeah most stupidly OP skill in the game makes it trivial. Try a different class or skill. I had a lot more fun/challenge with a melee toon, Vanq with Explosive Shot was amusing, but Easy Mode even on VH.

[Aez]

Torchlight does right what Titan Quest does wrong.  That is namely, awesome skills.  Yes there were a lot of skills and combinations in Titan Quest.  Mostly all of them were pretty fucking boring.  Also, when the game first came out all the melee characters were total balls.  That said, I didn't hate it.  I just don't think it's as good as Torchlight for that reason alone.

Put points in ranged/crid/mf stuff, then I spammed explosive shot pretty much entire the game and breezed through hard no problem.  Didn't exactly strike me as awsome skills.

Anyone tried that on Very Hard? 

[Kageh]

Now this thread has made me go look for my Titan Quest CDs and reinstall it, as I never finished Immortal Throne. And I'm going to try if I can make one of those one-shot-everything builds!

Back on topic, I think of Torchlight very much as Fate 2.5 with classes, skill trees and better loot, and with Diablo music ontop. And I enjoyed Fate a lot, so I have good fun with Torchlight. The added expertise from the team shows, and for $15 it was more than worth the investment.

[Setanta]

Torchlight does right what Titan Quest does wrong.  That is namely, awesome skills.  Yes there were a lot of skills and combinations in Titan Quest.  Mostly all of them were pretty fucking boring.  Also, when the game first came out all the melee characters were total balls.  That said, I didn't hate it.  I just don't think it's as good as Torchlight for that reason alone.

Put points in ranged/crid/mf stuff, then I spammed explosive shot pretty much entire the game and breezed through hard no problem.  Didn't exactly strike me as awsome skills.

Anyone tried that on Very Hard? 

It doesn't work anywhere near as well

[Musashi]

Torchlight does right what Titan Quest does wrong.  That is namely, awesome skills.  Yes there were a lot of skills and combinations in Titan Quest.  Mostly all of them were pretty fucking boring.  Also, when the game first came out all the melee characters were total balls.  That said, I didn't hate it.  I just don't think it's as good as Torchlight for that reason alone.

Put points in ranged/crid/mf stuff, then I spammed explosive shot pretty much entire the game and breezed through hard no problem.  Didn't exactly strike me as awsome skills.

Point's not merely that one skill is too awesome.  It's that there are different skills that are awesome.  That simply wasn't really the case in Titan Quest.  Also, as has been said, it's not so easy on very hard.

[Aez]

Zork - my lvl 10 Very Hard Hardcore Destroyer.

[Musashi]

^ Will be eaten by Grue.

 

[Brogarn]

Downloaded this last night since I'm almost done with my second play-through of Dragon Age. Brought it up just to see what it looks like and was impressed with how nice it looks. Nice and bright with some great art. I'll be playing through some more by this weekend. I'm not the biggest Action RPG fan mostly because I suck without a pause button, but it looks like it'll be fun to slaughter and loot my way through.

[Paelos]

I found that nothing really bothered me much except things that breathed elemental whatever. It was really annoying.

[Setanta]

Just finished VH mode on my Vanq. Tough as all hell to get through, I ended up using the respec mod. I personally prefer it to TQ - not sure why, both were good games but Torchlight was just more mindless fun - which is why I bought it :)

[ffc]

I have Torchlight to thank for opening my eyes to a world outside of Diablo and getting me interested in Titan Quest.  I actually stopped playing Torchlight in favor of TQ and I will forever hang my head in shame for skipping on TQ because it was-not-Diablo.

[Aez]

I already lost a level 24 Very Hard Hardcore melee alchemist - a named shaman got me with a critical on his fire bolt.
Already back to lvl 21 with my second melee alchemist - I'm currently building gems and enchanting rings to boost my elemental resistances.

The game is amazing.  Can't wait for the MMO.

[Azazel]

I'll buy this when steam has it for 50% or 75% off.

[Brogarn]

For some reason I was able to get into TQ more than I am Torchlight. With Torchlight it just feels like I'm fighting a mob of faceless monsters that I can barely discern between. So, I just spam that poison bolt thing and cast a bunch of monkeys. It gets old after about 20 minutes or so. In TQ I could tell the difference between the mobs and it felt like I could come up with better strategies. I also liked the deeper talent trees since I'm a chronic re-roller/character tinkerer.

I think I'm also just not in the mood for this game right now. I just finished up two play-throughs of Dragon Age and it put me in the mood to read some fantasy novels. Mindless nuking just isn't fun right now.

I'll come back to this.

[caladein]

Weekend Deal for 50%.  Also adds Steam Achievements and Steam Cloud support.

[Lakov_Sanite]

$9.99 is the price i was waiting for, downloading now.

[Malakili]

$9.99 is the price i was waiting for, downloading now.

On that note, if you don't own this game, $10 bucks is just too good to pass up (then again, i thought the same as $20).

[Azazel]

OK, bought. I'll get around to installing or playing it sometime later.

Shame it didn't have LAN. They'd have gotten $80 from me for 4 copies on release instead of $10 on Steamsale.

[Yegolev]

Having mysteriously lost characters during an upgrade, this is great-but-late news.

[Azaroth]

$9.99? Purchased.

[Aez]

That's some hardcore achievements.

[Mosesandstick]

Purchased, thanks guys.

[Kageru]

Yeah, can't resist that.

[Azazel]

First Impressions is of a SP-only Diablo 2 wrapped in WoW's art style.

There was a vendor with "lost dungeon" maps, so I'm not sure if these are similar to the ones in Mythos, or if they port you to a random location ("dungeon") in the mine.

[Malakili]

First Impressions is of a SP-only Diablo 2 wrapped in WoW's art style.

There was a vendor with "lost dungeon" maps, so I'm not sure if these are similar to the ones in Mythos, or if they port you to a random location ("dungeon") in the mine.

They are random dungeons outside the main dungeon, Mythos style.

[Aez]

lvl 32 Very Hard Hardcore Tank/Mage Alchemist with his Batman suit.
Ember Strike is really good.

First complain : the itemization is weak.  I'm not getting good loot.  I have to buy almost everything at the merchants.

[rattran]

It's just that random numbers hate you.

No, it's true. They had a meeting and everything.

[CaptainNapkin]

Wow, great price. Purchased and filed in the ever growing "I'll get to it someday" pile.