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Topic: Mass Effect 2 *spoilers around pg 29/30* (Read 629887 times)
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AcidCat
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Finally finished my first playthrough. Really pleased at the dynamics of the endgame, how you really feel like you get to utilize your whole team, not just "you've spent a whole game assembling a team, now pick two to actually use" - which I was worried would happen.
Overall absolutely loved the game, can't wait to start another one with my evil Femshep.
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Riggswolfe
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But in ME2 it's a power and I never found an in-universe explanation for how my soldier could just "will" his ammo to be cryo rounds for instance.
It's not willing, it's a setting on your weapons. Watch Shepard when you swap between two different ammos. There's an animation involved with punching in keys on the side. Yes, I remember the animation. Still, if it's changing a setting shouldn't everybody be able to do all of them?
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"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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rk47
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Ugh. It's hard to justify non biotics / techies into the party now. Without the quick skills to burn down shields and set armor on fire, Jack seems like a waste of time.
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Colonel Sanders is back in my wallet
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Venkman
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"Really, Commander?" 
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Shrike
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In fact, it's about a constant stream of inside jokes and easter eggs. "I have a shotgun..."
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Strazos
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What about the video game store on the Citadel? 
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Ratman_tf
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Yes, I remember the animation. Still, if it's changing a setting shouldn't everybody be able to do all of them?
It's the Mass Effect! 
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Venkman
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Anyone ever read the Cerebus Network news feeds on the game menu screen? Today's is about Superbowl CCXIX 
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Ratman_tf
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I love this moment. 
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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tmp
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Yah, that one was  EDI's line about humans on their knees and Joker's reaction was another good one. EDI turned out pretty interesting in general though it's odd to have her around given the big deal made about the technology in ME1.
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stray
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No powers here.. Just a soldier. Cover is useful, but the combat in general is not really all that fun (as an action game). If they're going to streamline to be more action heavy, I would have appreciated it just playing out like Red Faction or something. As it is,, it's halfassed action and halfassed RPG.
That said, it's generally a good game, for the story and such.
I'd recommend playing any class other than soldier then. .. Not a bad idea, but I figured since I imported my ME1 soldier, I'd just stick with that. I'm pretty far into the game anyways. Maybe if I replay, I'll do Vanguard.
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tmp
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Hope Bioware is paying attention; this better be part of ME3:
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Riggswolfe
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Hope Bioware is paying attention; this better be part of ME3:
Lol. I think that's based on Blasto the first Hanar Spectre!
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"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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caladein
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"Point being, they can't make everyone happy, so I hope they pick me." - Ingmar"OH MY GOD WE'RE SURROUNDED SEND FOR BACKUP DIG IN DEFENSIVE POSITIONS MAN YOUR NECKBEARDS" - tgr
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stray
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Jack might be one of hottest chicks in a video game.  I feel it's not going to work out between us though. :\
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Strazos
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No way, Miranda all the way...and I hate how she looks better in her default outfit than the alternate.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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stray
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Miranda's personality sucks so far, but since I'm a goody goody military man, she'd probably be more "consistent" with my character. I'm using the default appearance of Shepherd too.. That guy has no "edge" at all. Looks stupid trying to mack on Jack. :P
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Venkman
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I've been staying away from all sorts of spoilery stuff, because I'm loving it too much stumbling through. But I hafta ask: I've got a full crew roster all at loyal (except Jack due to having to chose), have gone through that Joker sequence, pretty much bought out Omega, Illium and Citadel including souvenirs, and have strip-mined my way across the galaxy. If I start the Suicide Mission, does that take me to the end of the game? Or can I complete it and then go back to the rest of the galaxy? And would there be reason to do so beyond hearing the accolades or whatever? No way, Miranda all the way...and I hate how she looks better in her default outfit than the alternate.
This. Both parts 
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tmp
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You can continue the game after getting done with the final mission. Though i believe then it's just doing remaining side quests and such.
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Nightblade
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I've been staying away from all sorts of spoilery stuff, because I'm loving it too much stumbling through. But I hafta ask: I've got a full crew roster all at loyal (except Jack due to having to chose), have gone through that Joker sequence, pretty much bought out Omega, Illium and Citadel including souvenirs, and have strip-mined my way across the galaxy. If I start the Suicide Mission, does that take me to the end of the game? Or can I complete it and then go back to the rest of the galaxy? And would there be reason to do so beyond hearing the accolades or whatever? No way, Miranda all the way...and I hate how she looks better in her default outfit than the alternate.
This. Both parts  You might want to gain Jack's loyalty back. If you have a high enough Paragon (and Renegade?) You can talk to her to get it back. The suicide mission is the final part of the game, after that the game allows drops you back into the ship and you're allowed to explore again. You can talk to your crew to get some post mission reactions too.
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Ingmar
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Miranda's alternate outfit > *. Very Mrs. Peel.
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The Transcendent One: AH... THE ROGUE CONSTRUCT. Nordom: Sense of closure: imminent.
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Bunk
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Just finished it, finally.
Darniaq: once you complete the suicide run, assuming you survive, the game lets you keep playing.
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Venkman
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Ah I thought having to choose with regards to Jack was a one-time/one-way thing. Thanks.
Thanks too for the post-mission thing.
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tmp
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Ah I thought having to choose with regards to Jack was a one-time/one-way thing. Thanks.
Every of these conflicts can be patched after, supposedly.
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Venkman
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Yea, I had two grayed out options. Either I was too high up the chain on one and not enough on the other or my whatever-stat-it-is wasn't high enough. Also, new DLC tomorrow. Which I only found out by being a fan on Facebook. It's not on the Mass Effect page, nor their Twitter feed, nor anywhere else I could easily see. It was a mere post in their forums. And considering their game menu screen on the PC always says there's new content available, I'm not sure how many people are even bothering to click through anymore. Hopefully they make more of a big deal of this if they plan to do more free DLC in the future.
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Strazos
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Hmm...I did Grunt's loyalty mission, went back to Tuchanka (spelling) to talk to everyone, just in case, and... Game still swears he's not loyal. While showing on the status screen that he is. And while wearing the "loyal" costume. Means I cannot add points to his loyalty ability. Also: Miranda's alternate outfit > *. Very Mrs. Peel.
Don't get me wrong, I like the black one as well, but...Well, you don't get as much definition on the black outfit, everything blends in. And:
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Just finished it, finally. Me too; just finished the suicide run this morning. Enjoyed it completely and am running through it again. Minor gripes. I wish there was slightly more variety in weapons. Basically there were really only 2 version of each gun that i found (aside from character specific upgrades) and about 5 heavy weapons. I also wish there had been some sort of space battle you could have control in. I have this great ship I'd like to blow things up with please... Other than that, well done Bioware. Keep it up!
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Venkman
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Dumb question: I picked up two Assignments while recruiting Samara and Thane awhile back. However, it appears I can't get to the locations to turn them in anymore. Is it because I didn't turn them in during the recruit missions and therefore I'm not going to ever be able to complete them?
Or:
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lesion
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I've never checked, but if you can't access the terminals you're likely SOL.  Also, pointless addition since I'm being at least a little bit constructive: I love this game with all available real estate on my pee-pee.
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« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 07:12:20 PM by lesion »
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Bunk
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Me too; just finished the suicide run this morning. Enjoyed it completely and am running through it again.
Stormwaltz, in regards to the "final boss":
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stray
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I've probably used all of my hate points up already, but umm... well, it's not really hate. I don't hate it. I've still played through, so it isn't that bad. Anyways, disclaimer aside - I kind of take back my opinion that the story is good. There's really no plot at all. You wake up and are told to go on a suicide mission, and everything else in between is just adding team members and getting them to like you. There's a lot of interesting mini stories and all that... But at least ME1 had a plot revolving around Saren. There's only been one new addition to what I know about the Collectors since the game started, and it isn't even all that integral to the plot. In the first game, Saren's story developed better over time. Still not a bad waste of time and all that, but I don't agree that this is better than Mass Effect, like some reviews would say. [edit] Fuck. I sound too agreeable there. I really don't have time to ruffle feathers though. 
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« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 09:16:12 PM by stray »
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Ratman_tf
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Stormwaltz, in regards to the "final boss": If anyone wants the really good ending, they're going to have to do a little spoilering.
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« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 01:21:36 AM by Ratman_tf »
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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tmp
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There's only been one new addition to what I know about the Collectors since the game started, and it isn't even all that integral to the plot. In the first game, Saren's story developed better over time.
Yeah the pacing in the first game was better i think. There was some steady buildup with every completed mission as you'd learn something more about either Saren's plans or the Reapers and each mission felt like bringing closer to the final goal. In ME2 that's lacking, with most of missions so vaguely related to the final goal and no extra info gained, i wasn't getting the same feel. Saren's manipulations were also on larger scale; each posed solid threat to the universe at large (as solid as the villain's plans can be anyway). In contrast in ME2 in most missions you're just fixing life of one person, it's far lesser impact.
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stray
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Some of these small missions are very cool though, I'll give them that. Not sure which one I liked the most. Maybe the Justicar's. Maybe Zaeed's too, since that had a pretty clear moral choice angle to it.
But whoever wrote the overall story didn't apply the same details to plot. You could say that everyone in the game has a decent story except Shepherd himself. And at the very least, if they can't really write much about the Collectors, they could have revealed more snippets about their past . Also, it would have been better bringing more Illusive Man/Cerberus stuff into the mix.
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