Next major patch announced: Apocrypha

[Quinton]

Skills that finished training during downtime reverted to 0SP.

People obviously did not take "train a long skill" advice seriously ^^

[Sir T]

I'm soooo glad I started a 30 day skill... 

[VickeVire]

I get nightmares thinking about if finishing a rank 8 skill or the like

[Sir T]

To be fair it was during a period where I was flying nothing but covert ops ships so I just set long skills because there was no point training anything else as I never left Cheetahs anyway. The 30 day skill I set is the final third of capital ships 5 

[Phildo]

Finally got in.  Skill queues are awesome, but they uglied up EVERYTHING!

[Surlyboi]

Not to mention the sound changes...

[Phildo]

Eve has sound?

[Endie]

I had sound on to warn me if MY CARRIER or MY BASILISK were getting locked up while repping services, and so when i docked in a Blood Raider outpost I heard the new ambient station sounds there, and I thought they were quite cool.

In general, the warping/cynoing/cloaking etc sound effects reminded me a bit of Alpha Centauri.

[Predator Irl]

I like the sound effects but I've noticed a few issues so far.

- Unsure when warp is beginning / ending because the sound effects are too low or don't happen.

- Autocannon sound working intermittently

- Gate activation / cloak sounds inaudible (yes I have the settings up LOUD!!!)

[Pezzle]

Is there a way to disable the new watery effects of tower shields.  Neat at first, annoying after a minute or two.  The new fitting screen is ok.  You can import/export overview settings now (in theory).  You can also make ship setups for your corp?  Wormholes?  Who cares?  One of our teams landed in the drone regions.  That is a long ride home.

[Predator Irl]

...  One of our teams landed in the drone regions.  That is a long ride home.

LoLz oh I can see this turning into a hilarious tragedy for the empire dwellers!

[Surlyboi]

Hey! My main still happens to be an empire dweller. I'm not looking forward to the long slogs back if shit goes awry.

[Endie]

I like the sound effects but I've noticed a few issues so far.

- Unsure when warp is beginning / ending because the sound effects are too low or don't happen.

- Autocannon sound working intermittently

- Gate activation / cloak sounds inaudible (yes I have the settings up LOUD!!!)

I found I had to be zoomed in really close to the ship - like inside 20km or so - to hear many of the sound effects, whether it was a buzzard jumping or a rorqual cynoing.

Is there a way to disable the new watery effects of tower shields.  Neat at first, annoying after a minute or two.  The new fitting screen is ok.  You can import/export overview settings now (in theory).  You can also make ship setups for your corp?  Wormholes?  Who cares?  One of our teams landed in the drone regions.  That is a long ride home.

The corp setups are, in some cases, going to be hilarious.

As to the exit points of wormholes: those are going to be the source of yet more fun for those like myself who don't really care about the PvE content, but who might be sitting in a camp and find someone in a wormhole-mission-fit ship with T3 loot in their cargo jump in.  A great many empire people do not know how to move in 0.0, as a rule.

All in all, this is the patch that has least excited me for several years.  There is every chance I'll never do sleeper PvE stuff, I use EFT and the GF wiki already to do my fits.  I've already turned off as much fo the graphics as I can for multiboxing.  Um...  it says a lot when changed sound effects are getting an expressable percentage of the "what's new" thread.

[Sir T]

Well I relisted my attributes so they make more sense other than 24 intelligence and everything else at 16.

However I lost carrier 5  . I petitioned but ccp wil give me a patented fuck off.n*sigh*

And I wonder why I've started playing other games again...

[Murgos]

I set per to 24 and will to 17.  Then I went through and tagged every skill that I had only trained to 1 and set them to train to two or three and finished off with a longer train since I knew I wouldn't be on last night.  This morning I went through and set everything that was still at 2 to train to 3 and again set a longer train for the end of it.

It's small potatoes but for two days of training time I will have small improvements across the board.  So, that kicks ass.

[Endie]

I am nervous about redistributing points since The Groundskeeper, who now has almost 9 million SPs in leadership, has a base charisma of (wait for it) 3.  I suspect i may be forced to actually add two to that from elsewhere, leaving me worse off now that I'm just about finished with charisma stuff and going for a command ship (lol Gallente).

[5150]

Well I relisted my attributes so they make more sense other than 24 intelligence and everything else at 16.

However I lost carrier 5  . I petitioned but ccp wil give me a patented fuck off.n*sigh*

And I wonder why I've started playing other games again...

Friend of mine tried using the queue and not only lost points it wont let him train anything up now

The initial reaction to his petition was as you describe

[Murgos]

Yeah, I would expect that if you have Cha 3 it will be a net loss of 2 points for you.  I had Cha 10 so it was totally worth it for me.

BTW, You don't have to accept the stat change once you have opened the tool, it has a cancel button.  This is :ccp: so, no telling what it will really do but it seems like you should be able to look and see without consequences.

[Endie]

And so it begins.  This from the GF forums:

With a bit of direction from WJK and Alexander Omega, I am now in a w-system and anchoring a POS. After trying to collapse the wormhole and trap some PL/Goons, Alexander and I ended up stuck ourselves. After two hours of probing we found a wormhole to empire. So far the empire wormholes has been stable and a trickle of pubbies has been coming in through it. I intend to setup base here in an arazu + bubble and gank people. Anyone that wants in on this let me know and I will tell you where you can enter from.

I claim this unknown system in the name of 8yo and the lobby crew. WJK and Alexander Omega are honorary founding members and are welcome to join the fun and use the tower whenever they want to.

Update: The system is [redacted]

[Predator Irl]

Another thing I've noticed since the patch is the kill mails have gone a little funny. I don't know whether it was lag in the systems in question, which was significantly terrible, or relating to the patch itself but people on KM's in the gang I flew with last night were finding some erratic DPS on the mails. Some that were shooting the targets for some time show on the KM for 0 DPS.

[Murgos]

Another thing I've noticed since the patch is the kill mails have gone a little funny. I don't know whether it was lag in the systems in question, which was significantly terrible, or relating to the patch itself but people on KM's in the gang I flew with last night were finding some erratic DPS on the mails. Some that were shooting the targets for some time show on the KM for 0 DPS.

Apparently, there are some changes to the API with the latest patch.  Stuff may not be being reported in exactly the same way, there is a post on gf that says you can expect the KB and stuff to be acting funny until they get around to fixing it.

In other news people are having skills randomly reset to 0 sp after it finishes training.  Apparently it's a known issue and ccp is working on it.

[Gets]

With the box release there's a small side-effect that we didn't anticipate on when putting EVE on the shelf for soccer moms to pick up. Mr. J Gardner in an Amazon.com review is very angry that CCP "released" this game with an ESRB rating for Teens.

Review for parents:
Not for kids! Very inappropriate player content and online interaction!
CCP are jerks for releasing this as 12+ ESRB. Not for kids!

Game creator is CCP, Iceland.

I agree that CCP created Game Content is ESRB Teen, However...
This game and CCP intentionally exploits a major loophole in the ESRB called Player Content. ESRB does not rate player content. Write the ESRB today to complain their policies.
Player Content is ESRB Mature+
CCP communicates and promotes a sexual, perverted, profane and drunken adult social community in this game. Bars and Night clubs are coming out within a year. View their fanfest 2008 dominination video on youtube to real people getting their heads blown off.

You have read what the game is about. Here is what kind of Player content your child will be exposed to.
The average age in game is high, about 28.
A group called SomethingAwful (search internet, CEO is in jail) largely controls the game at the moment and will have access to your child.
They run the largest in game entity called GoonSwarm, (youtube, somethingawful forums).
This sick organizations members and CCP are extremely perverted and have inundated the game with inappropriate player content.
Their members have a majority of the Game Manager positions working for CCP in Iceland and ignore all parental complaints.

Your child will be exposed to:
Inappropriate chat discussions
Inappropriate voice discussions (both the games integrated voice chat, teamspeak, and ventrilo)
Links to porn sites in chat
Sexual stories from other players

Inappropriate Jokes to include: Racism, Sex, Politics, Drugs.
Your child will "hear" people doing drugs.
Your child will "hear" people drunk.
CCP the maker of eve will broadcast fanfest events through the ingame voice system. Your child will hear inappropriate things during their presentations.
While flying through space systems your child will see and be overwhelmed with content named with inappropriate names. I once saw someone had their ships out and they were all named a modified version of penis.

You will not be able to protect your child:
There is "No" in-game method or mechanism to shield your child from this player content.
There are "No" chat filters
The same person that posts links to porn will be talking to your child

I am a long time player of MMO's and of all the games I have played this game is the worst for nasty player content and interaction with a shocking lowest ESRB rating. In comparison to other companies CCP does absolutely nothing to counter this type of behavior. Not even a chat filter. Don't buy this for your kids unless they are 18.

Just for a simple comparison for parents if I had to choose the lesser of two evils between Grand Theft Auto and Eve Online I would have to go with Grand Theft Auto.

Hey, now, hold on there for a second, some of the blame should be put on Jade Constantine for opening up a chain of space brothels and we haven't had people doing drugs and being drunk for everyone to "hear" since Suas left 

[Pax]

Bless Europe, really. Nobody cares about the above drivel here.

[Amarr HM]

CCP couldn't have wished for better publicity.

[amiable]

Shorter angry mom: "Hey kids, this game is for adults, just like sex, drugs and alcohol.  Now that i've warned them, I'm sure they will stay away!!!!"

[Koyochi]

With the box release there's a small side-effect that we didn't anticipate on when putting EVE on the shelf for soccer moms to pick up. Mr. J Gardner in an Amazon.com review is very angry that CCP "released" this game with an ESRB rating for Teens.

...

A group called SomethingAwful (search internet, CEO is in jail) largely controls the game at the moment and will have access to your child.
They run the largest in game entity called GoonSwarm, (youtube, somethingawful forums).
This sick organizations members and CCP are extremely perverted and have inundated the game with inappropriate player content.
Their members have a majority of the Game Manager positions working for CCP in Iceland and ignore all parental complaints.

...

Inappropriate Jokes to include: Racism, Sex, Politics, Drugs.
Your child will "hear" people doing drugs.
Your child will "hear" people drunk.
CCP the maker of eve will broadcast fanfest events through the ingame voice system. Your child will hear inappropriate things during their presentations.
While flying through space systems your child will see and be overwhelmed with content named with inappropriate names. I once saw someone had their ships out and they were all named a modified version of penis.

You will not be able to protect your child

...

Hey, now, hold on there for a second, some of the blame should be put on Jade Constantine for opening up a chain of space brothels and we haven't had people doing drugs and being drunk for everyone to "hear" since Suas left 

I wouldn't be surprised if a certain Mr. J Gardner would turn out to be a longtime goonswarm member.

[Phildo]

Interestingly, I just logged onto an old alpha-clone alt that I left in empire and he has a 100% training time buff.  If only we had known to abuse this 

[Fordel]

So did anyone get a box? Anything cool inside?

[Gets]

Well they did seem to add the special shuttle. No idea what it's called right now, but I heard it's selling for half a billion right now, but dropping in price.

[Surlyboi]

I'd just be happy if they got Jita back online.

[Gets]

An Anarchyyt > We were in our w-space system
An Anarchyyt > The only wormhole in there lead to the same system
An Anarchyyt > But it wouldn't actually jump through ours
An Anarchyyt > Like it said jumping, but we just sat there

[Jayce]

I'd just be happy if they got Jita back online.

I visited Jita 4-4 last night, no problems.

[Surlyboi]

This morning the gates were all offline. By this afternoon everything was back to normal again.

[Pezzle]

When I tried logging in a price checker the game informed me Jita was congested and offered to transfer my ship and character to a nearby system.

[Phildo]

Has anyone mentioned how hilarious the bumping of capital ships has been?  Jumping through a cyno beacon or warping to the same character can now result in ships being tossed 1-200km away in a few seconds!