[TF2] Scout Update

[K9]

Looks like the Scout will be the next class receiving an update, amongst other things.

http://www.teamfortress.com/

[TripleDES]

Christ, the engineer needs some fixing already. Not the damn scout.

[Samwise]

The engy got that mini-update where teleporters and dispensers are now upgradeable.

[TripleDES]

Doesn't make the sentry less shitty. 

[Triforcer]

Hmm, I'm going to have to check TF2 out again as I was unaware of the Spy buff.  There are maps where ammo recharging cloak could let you run around staying almost permanently invisible.  This will be GREAT for hit and run operations deep in enemy territory. 

[schild]

I am reinstalling TF2 the moment the Scout teaser page comes up.

[Yoru]

YEAAAAH! BOINK!

[Prospero]

Hmm, I'm going to have to check TF2 out again as I was unaware of the Spy buff.  There are maps where ammo recharging cloak could let you run around staying almost permanently invisible.  This will be GREAT for hit and run operations deep in enemy territory. 

The best is if you can sneak behind enemy lines and get to their dispenser. You can sit there cloaked all day long waiting for a chance to strike. It makes spying on Dustbowl fricking awesome.

[Triforcer]

Hmm, I'm going to have to check TF2 out again as I was unaware of the Spy buff.  There are maps where ammo recharging cloak could let you run around staying almost permanently invisible.  This will be GREAT for hit and run operations deep in enemy territory. 

The best is if you can sneak behind enemy lines and get to their dispenser. You can sit there cloaked all day long waiting for a chance to strike. It makes spying on Dustbowl fricking awesome.

There is no visible line of healing from you to the dispenser?  Wow.  That does open up many strategic possibilities.   How much of a recharge do you get from fallen weapons?  I.e., does backstabbing, grabbing fallen weapon, and recloaking get you back to full?  I haven't been able to reinstall yet (work is hectic), sorry for the obvious question.

[Prospero]

You can hide the line pretty easily by standing on top. Plus in the thick of battle most people aren't paying attention. A fallen weapon does fill you back up if I recall correctly.

[Triforcer]

You can hide the line pretty easily by standing on top. Plus in the thick of battle most people aren't paying attention. A fallen weapon does fill you back up if I recall correctly.

Now that I've played:

This makes things so easy on pubs its almost criminal.  My first time back in months on defense in goldrush 1:  70 points.  Next closest was 26 

[KallDrexx]

The engy got that mini-update where teleporters and dispensers are now upgradeable.

I've been away from tf2 for a while, what do the upgradable teleporters and dispensers do?

[K9]

Teleporters recharge quicker as they get upgraded. Dispensers dispense more health and metal per tick as they get upgraded.

[TripleDES]

Doesn't make the engy role suck less. Actually turns you even more in a sitting duck that can be spystabbed.

[Samwise]

I have to inform you that if you keep this up I'm going to have to start accusing you of sucking at being an engy.  Which will then be followed by you positing scenarios in which an engy is clearly powerless to win.  Followed by tiresome rebuttals from other people saying that no, you just suck at being an engy.  Ad nauseam.  And really, we don't need that, do we?   

Let's talk about scouts.  Start placing your bets on what the new melee weapon's going to be.  Louisville Slugger?

[schild]

Either a wooden bat or a high crit rate nailbat.

Edit: I'd give up the world for a Jose Canseco bat.

[Lantyssa]

Clue-by-Four - Killed by the Scout, in the Spawn Room, with the Lead Pipe.

Actually any kills in the spawn room, but gives the referenced lead pipe.  I'd love to see that one.

[schild]

I wouldn't want a lead pipe to be the alternate weapon, it's dumb. >_>

[Lantyssa]

But it'd be an awesome achievement.

[schild]

Did you pay money for that?

Destroy a turret with the bat.

[Prospero]

From one of the Steam forum threads: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783901

My personal fav:

"You following me, camera guy?"

Taunt for a freeze-cam shot.

[K9]

bump, more blog updates. They've changed crit mechanics and the scout package is imminent.

[Samwise]

the scout package is imminent.

hehehehehehehehehehehehe

 

[Prospero]

Bonk!

[schild]

Oh wow.

[Samwise]

Oh my god are snipers going to hate me.

Unfortunately I won't be able to double-jump over to laugh at them up close.  :(

[Prospero]

Yeah, losing the double jump is a pretty brutal trade off. I can't wait for scout rush stun wars on 2fort though.

[Malakili]

I'm actually really uninspired by this.  So far, the melee weapon upgrades have been quite good, but giving up the double jump is way too harsh a penalty for me.

Hopefully the others are better.

[Triforcer]

How powerful this is dependent on the length of the stun.

If its 1-3/4ish seconds, totally not worth it to lose the jump.

If long range hits get you something like 10, totally worth it. 

We'll see.

[schild]

If it works on turrets, OH MAN.

[Triforcer]

Also, is chain-stunning possible?  If so, that makes it much more useful.

Or is TF2 about to introduce CC immunity?    

EDIT:  Oh god, if this is possible, it took me five seconds (4.999 seconds longer than it will take any griefer) to discover the fun here.  Lock down an enemy for ten minutes on an isolated part of the map, ahoy!

[Kail]

Seems to me like most of the utility would be from mucking up ubers, though I'd need more detail on how it works.  What happens when you smack an ubering medic with it?  Does he just become unable to move, does it remove the uber from his target, does it remove the uber from him and his target, or what?

[Prospero]

I'm actually really uninspired by this.  So far, the melee weapon upgrades have been quite good, but giving up the double jump is way too harsh a penalty for me.

Hopefully the others are better.

I'd gladly give up the double jump on Badwater. It'll also be handy for defense on Dustbowl 2.* and 3.*. I can see myself using it, but it is definitely a sidegrade.

[TripleDES]

All their reasoning about ditching the spy grenade just went out of the window...

[Triforcer]

Yeah, the crowd control floodgates are probably opening.  Slowing body-shots for the sniper!  Gas grenades for the spy!  CC immunities and anti-CC trinkets! And cooldowns...cooldowns...cooldowns!!  Its all coming now