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[tazelbain]

I want to be that one token white Jaffa.

Stargate would a be good MMO license but it's in bad hands.

[Musashi]

Isn't that what they said about Communism?

Oh, I kid.

[sidereal]

This game dropped off my radar some time ago and after the farce(sp) of a TV show that is Stargate Emoverse Ive lost a lot of interest in the Stargate thang.  Gimme some KOTOR

Stargate Universe is awesome and there's nothing you can do about it.

[UnSub]

Eh, I still think that Stargate was a solid franchise for a MMORPG.

As an IP for a MMO, it's better than a lot of others, especially as a theme park title.

[ahoythematey]

This is insane.  They're developing a Stargate FPS again?  After they cancelled the first one?  This franchise is so fucked.

Stargate would a be good MMO license but it's in bad hands.

Fixed.

[Morat20]

This is insane.  They're developing a Stargate FPS again?  After they cancelled the first one?  This franchise is so fucked.

A stargate FPS is probably even MORE of a no-brainer, assuming you got someone marginally competent to make it.

Of course, deep down I want a Honor Harrington Naval Simulator, but I suspect I'd be bored halfway through the first battle -- and I suspect I'd get my ass blown out of the sky so fast the AI would laugh at me.

[schild]

Why would Stargate be a good license? Because it has doors to anywhere? Is this a joke? Every handling of Stargate past the first movie has been trash. It's like the asshole's sci-fi version of Planescape.

[jason]

People always think Stargate is a good license because the "doors to anywhere" don't have to maintain a consistent theme.  Ooo, look! Roman world!  Now Look! Sci-Fi Space Station!  Hey! Russia!  Awesome! Pyramids!  Neat!

Map after map, zone after zone, no matter what theme you pick you can shoehorn it into Stargate by just making it on the other side of a portal.

[schild]

Yeaaaaaa. That's what I was getting at.

Guys, Stargate in any setting is still fucking Stargate. It's a terrible license. End of story.

[Bzalthek]

Sci-fi universe full of medieval worlds!  Most of stargate is just a bunch of hippy, ball-massaging cliches strung together in some pretense of a consistent storyline.  There was no depth, the little guys always beat insurmountable odds and came through at the end of the day.  If someone died, grief lasted roughly 40 minutes until credits.

And I loved watching SG1, it was a nice brainless sci-fi with either MacGuyver busting badass or Crichton delivering his snarky commentary.

You want to make a game out of this license?  You drop the boring-ass politics, throw all of civilization into a fast-paced transgalactic war, map out the overall flow of the war for a good 10 years and provide the illusion of actually making a difference by providing smaller-yet-trivial objectives to make the battle lines look fluid.

Also, the ability to kill a lot of the smug fuckers from the show would be awesome.

[schild]

Errrrrrr. No, my point was to not take the license. Just because a license exists doesn't mean it's good. A good license has a fanbase that provides some sort of crossover to the other form of media, this being TV/Movies -> Games. The license has to provide some kind of benefit over "it's a license." A huge possible playerbase, for example. SG does not do this. It provides fuckall in a boring ass setting in a world full of boring ass tech and bland characters. It's a terrible fucking license. The idea is neat, but entirely unoriginal (the idea of a city of doors to everywhere is old as the hills) and SG - arguably - was the worst of them all.

It's a shitty license. Period.

Edit: Shit, it's probably one of the ONLY licenses that would be worse than straight up brand new IP. Seriously, it's so bad. It's power glove bad.

[raydeen]

I think it would be a good license for an RTS. But then most of the fans would probably be bored to tears with that implementation.

[schild]

I think it would be a good license for an RTS.

Not really, no.

[Bzalthek]

Oh, I know!  I choose you, teal'c!

Goa'uld, gotta catch em all!

[raydeen]

I think it would be a good license for an RTS.

Not really, no.

Then, how about a freeware adventure game using AGS? (I played a little bit of this a few years back - wasn't bad if you like the old Indiana Jones adventure games)

http://www.freehare.com/index.php?nav=games&item=review&id=43

[tkinnun0]

Edit: Shit, it's probably one of the ONLY licenses that would be worse than straight up brand new IP. Seriously, it's so bad. It's power glove bad.

It's an IP that practically demands zones and instances, whereas if you invented your own IP there's no reason not to have a seamless world. As such it's an IP Age of Conan should have used given their technical limitations.

[Hayduke]

The movie was pretty fun, but the tv shows were awful.  The best one (the first series) relied almost exclusively on cutesy character interactions, but the setting and antagonists were positively pedestrian.  You take those characters out and you're just left with mush.

[tkinnun0]

If your studio is not capable of making as polished an MMO as Blizzard or taking the MMO genre to a whole new level, then Stargate is a better IP for your MMO than Star Wars or Star Trek. Your MMO is not going to be epic and Stargate does not try to be an epic IP.

[eldaec]

SG is a transparent rip off of Mr Benn tbh.

[WindupAtheist]

If you want multiple worlds and dimensional portals and shit, you may as well cook up your own IP and include them in it. Then you can do whatever you damn well please with it. Blow up the earth, add cyborg ninjas to an expansion, what the fuck ever. There aren't enough people who give a shit about Stargate to make dealing with a licensed IP worthwhile.

[UnSub]

If you want multiple worlds and dimensional portals and shit, you may as well cook up your own IP and include them in it. Then you can do whatever you damn well please with it. Blow up the earth, add cyborg ninjas to an expansion, what the fuck ever. There aren't enough people who give a shit about Stargate to make dealing with a licensed IP worthwhile.

Depending on how much it cost, it might have saved a lot of time in lore and art development by just licensing the IP. Plus this MMO was announced back when SG was arguably a lot fresher.

I'm not saying that SG is a great sci-fi licence - it's got some nice ideas but is also fairly generic. But as an IP for a MMO it cuts through the "what?" barrier because a lot of people know what SG is, even if they aren't fans and the setting allows for instanced worlds of great variety. It's a better sci-fi IP for a MMO that lots of others - personally I think something like Dr Who is a bigger IP, but it would make an awful MMO.

[Bzalthek]

Dr. who would have to ship with a bunch of LSD and bad poetry.

[UnSub]

Dr. who would have to ship with a bunch of LSD and bad poetry.

You think grinding for a Jedi was bad - just wait until you have to grind to become a Timelord!

[Bzalthek]

I found the recipe list for a TARDIS.  Looks like there's a lot of subcombines too and that's not even counting the interior modules.

    * 4 pieces of long wood
    * 4 small pieces of wood, just a bit wider on the top than the other bits of wood
    * 1 slightly smaller piece of wood
    * 2 square pecies of wood, able to fit on the top and the bottom
    * 4 thin pieces of wood for the bottom
    * a small piece of wood to hold the lantern.
    * a lantern, preferably with a blue top
    * door hinges
    * nails
    * a claw hammer
    * a saw
    * blue paint
    * gold YALE lock
    * optional: model "Police Telephone" door panel

[raydeen]

Daleks are even easier to craft as most of the parts can be picked up at any good hardware store. Plungers, egg whisks, washers, ballcocks...The tricky part is finding a decent ring modulator to get that really good raspy 'EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINAAAAATE!!' Of course you could just opt for a good sized fan and scream into that all day, but it's just not the same.

[stark]

Holy shit, they finished something:  http://www.stargateresistance.com/

[Mrbloodworth]

Holy shit, they finished something:  http://www.stargateresistance.com/

That seems to have a hard time loading up.

[HaemishM]

That game looks like a piece of shit. GO GO 1-shot Stealth kills!

[Malakili]

Stargate: Resistance looks like they tore the combat system out of the MMO they couldn't finish and forced it into a mediocre third person shooter.  I mean, if you are going this route with a game right now, is there any reason not to choose Global Agenda?

[Mrbloodworth]

I recognize most of those areas as from alpha. Combat looked weak.

[Ratman_tf]

Stargate: Resistance looks like they tore the combat system out of the MMO they couldn't finish and forced it into a mediocre third person shooter.  I mean, if you are going this route with a game right now, is there any reason not to choose Global Agenda?

It's Stargate!

[Shatter]

I was looking forward to Stargate Online and am a fan of the Stargate series but Im not even playing this. 

[Malakili]

CME files for bankruptcy.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/loadNews/16270

[Ratman_tf]

CME files for bankruptcy.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/loadNews/16270

I'm shocked. 

[Jerrith]

Not unexpected.  I was impressed they managed to get Stargate: Resistance out, but after trying the beta, couldn't imagine it would sell well.  Seems like they stayed open just long enough to make sure that was the case, and then called it quits...

Oh well.