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tmp
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POW! Right in the Kisser!
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Really the problem I have with that personally is, without the lines sitting there for you, there are lines I will never know about because I would never pick it. I am terrible at being a renegade, for example, so most of those lines are wasted. At least the douchebag asshole lines in DA:O, I read, even if I never picked them. If that makes sense.
Yup, it does. Reading the lines i could say is big part of enjoyment i get out of the RPG dialogue. Which is why the whole paraphrasing thing is pretty meh for me. I don't want to replay the whole thing just to see the alternatives  |
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Count Nerfedalot
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Really the problem I have with that personally is, without the lines sitting there for you, there are lines I will never know about because I would never pick it. I am terrible at being a renegade, for example, so most of those lines are wasted. At least the douchebag asshole lines in DA:O, I read, even if I never picked them. If that makes sense.
Yup, it does. Reading the lines i could say is big part of enjoyment i get out of the RPG dialogue. Which is why the whole paraphrasing thing is pretty meh for me. I don't want to replay the whole thing just to see the alternatives Yeah,but,sadly,this is a key area where the developers' reward mechanisms diverge widely between a subscription game and a packaged solo game. With the solo game, the developer already has all the money he is going to get from you for that content. So the more enjoyment you get from that content the better, no matter how long it takes you to consume it, being alll at once in a single pass or in multiple passes to savor each posibble tree. But in a subscription game, there is constant pressure to maximize the amount of calendar time it takes you to consume a given amount of content. Shortcuts that let you consume what was inteded to be separate pieces of content in a single pass, like alternate story lines or conversation trees are amathema to the suits managing a subscription game and will tend to be purged with fire to the extent that said managers actually understand the game they are developing well enough to recognize such shortcuts for what they are. sadly, too often the choice goes towards maximizing the time it takes to consume content over maximizing the fun you get out of the contect. |
Yes, I know I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?
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Sobelius
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20 pages to go
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"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -- Voltaire
"A world without Vin Diesel is sad." -- me
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luckton
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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Kirth
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you sure your doing that right? |
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Shatter
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A disturbance in the force tells me they have begun to send out emails for the weekend beta, or I have gas
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luckton
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you sure your doing that right? Better? |
"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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Surlyboi
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eat a bag of dicks
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Win.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Evildrider
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Nice I get to be all  now.  |
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Fordel
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Rasix
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I am the harbinger of your doom!
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schild
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Part of the Problem:
The lot of you.
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Surlyboi
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eat a bag of dicks
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Awww, the MMO love has gotten to Schild's sensitive bits.  |
Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reg
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I'm surprised it took so long for Schild to show up. Somebody said twitch like three pages ago. |
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Nebu
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Part of the Problem:
The lot of you.
You should check out the Politics forum! |
"Always do what is right. It will gratify half of mankind and astound the other."
- Mark Twain
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Paelos
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He's just spreading the love while reminding us it's time to donate!
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CPA, CFO, Sports Fan, Game when I have the time
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UnSub
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Part of the Problem:
The lot of you.
We only salivate when the bell rings. |
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Cyrrex
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At least he didn't remind us that it is Bioware Austin.
Except now that I just did!
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"...maybe if you cleaned the piss out of the sunny d bottles under your desks and returned em, you could upgrade you vid cards, fucken lusers.." - Grunk
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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At least he didn't remind us that it is Bioware Austin.
Except now that I just did!
Welp... There goes the neighborhood. |
Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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schild
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He's just spreading the love while reminding us it's time to donate!
I am in no way above taking donations for this website from a bunch of people with bad taste. A mess of folks here like Joss Whedon also, they can donate too. Awww, the MMO love has gotten to Schild's sensitive bits. It's not the MMO Love, it's the hypocrisy. Everyone saw the writing on the wall when Mythic was bought by the same company that is making SWTOR. When the 100+ contractors (many of whom are designers, etc - not QA) get laid off after spending years in a mismanaged mess to create a WoW clone with more dialogue, bigger chins, and less innovation than nearly everything between it and WoW - yes, a bunch of people that know the history of MMOGs and EA swooning over such a product can get to my sensitive bits. I would, in fact, describe it as "flagrantly disgusting." |
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Sky
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I love my TV an' hug my TV an' call it 'George'.
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Soo...fucking be there?  |
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Lakov_Sanite
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I just like the people are holding star wars to such a high standard in...storytelling.
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~a horrific, dark simulacrum that glares balefully at us, with evil intent.
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murdoc
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Heeey, I got to play the "Battle for Gilneas Aldreraan" PvP area, last weekend. Nothing quite like waiting 1.5 hrs to jump on a PC and start playing a MMO you know very little about in a PvP arena. Having said that - it was fun. I would do it again. We actually went to the SWtoR panel and they sure didn't reveal much other than 'there are PvP servers, PvP planets, and PvP instances' and that to get PvP gear you needed two different types of commendations. Then someone started asking why there wasn't better face modifcation tools in the character creator and I left. The best part was he started his question by say 'I've been asking this for the last couple years...' before even launching into his long winded question and one of the Devs goes 'The answer is the same as last year'. |
Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Bunk
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Well then, I'm glad we left early that morning to beat the border rush. I skipped the lines to play it as well, considering you could watch over people's shoulders and it looked to be the same demos they had been running at every other show.
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"Welcome to the internet, pussy." - VDL
"I have retard strength." - Schild
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Soln
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the opportunity for evil is just delicious
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"bigger chins"  I like to think I have few illusions about this title, and I'm paying for the sharred disappointment and fun of discovering all the problems with folks here (and in the zeitgeist). I'll be happy if I get 30+ hrs out of it before the "need Jabba's Crystal to unlock X" or the collect_100_Jedi_Wampum for a "good" lightsaber drives me off. It'll be the same ole economy-sim like every other MMO. Just with chinny voiceovers. |
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Reg
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It's going to be horrible. I just know it! If I hadn't already foolishly preordered I could just do the sensible thing and stick to innovative and groundbreaking Facebook games.
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Fordel
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Mythic was fucked long before it was bought by EA.
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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It's not the MMO Love, it's the hypocrisy. Everyone saw the writing on the wall when Mythic was bought by the same company that is making SWTOR.
Didn't you buy the Collector's Edition of WAR? I wish Steam saved chat logs, because I remember you hyping it up just prior to launch. |
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Merusk
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It's Star Wars, I was doomed aeons ago to a purchase regardless of it sucking or not, just to check it out.
Tomorrow being Friday I'm giving up hope of this "Beta Weekend" thing now. So sad.
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The past cannot be changed. The future is yet within your power.
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luckton
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Mythic was fucked long before it was bought by EA.
Left Axe. 'Nuff said |
"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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Mrbloodworth
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I'm only playing it because its new star wars, and, many of my friends are going to be playing. Who knows how long i will last. Im so burned out on this type of combat system. But that's me. I fully expect to pine for SWG sandboxness and be sad about this type of combat. Hopefully the missions are cool.
I would totally pick up star trek online if not for this title. The "shootery" mode is at least entertaining.
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Fordel
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Mythic was fucked long before it was bought by EA.
Left Axe. 'Nuff said DoubleFrost math |
and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Tannhauser
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I was told there would be no math.
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Fordel
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So was Mythic.
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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luckton
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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