SWTOR

[jakonovski]

That space combat looks so MEH.

And knowing it's a rail shooter makes it an even bigger 'meh'.

Fuck, I didn't even know that. What do they think they can accomplish with bait & switch trailers?

[Fordel]

They've said the space stuff was going to be on rails like 52 times. How is that bait and switch?

[Ingmar]

Yeah, it has been known since it was announced AFAIK.

[jakonovski]

They've said the space stuff was going to be on rails like 52 times. How is that bait and switch?

Fine, just personal disappointment then.

[luckton]

Also, again, why are people not reading 'all' of the posts in the thread before hitting reply and sounding all 'OMG WTF?!'

[Rasix]

The space shooting stuff looked fine from the whole 5 seconds I saw of it.  The game from everything they've ever said isn't a ground game and a space game.  The space shit is just fluff.  

They should have just made it like the Jade Empire mini-game to piss you all off even more.

[Morfiend]

Also, again, why are people not reading 'all' of the posts in the thread before hitting reply and sounding all 'OMG WTF?!'

Because the thread is 190 pages going back almost 3 years?  

[Fordel]

I want to know how many times I've posted:




In this thread over the years now. 

[Chimpy]

Chick-jedi needed a pink light-saber imo.

[Sky]

Without a release date, E3 is pretty much meh. Cool intro trailer. And good news for the raidtards.

[sinij]

SWTOR An Exclusive Download for EA's New "Origin"
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/SWTOR-Star-Wars-MMOG-Origin-digital-distribution,12875.html

The Old Republic will be available later this year exclusively on the publisher's new digital distribution platform Origin, also launched on Friday.

RIP

[Velorath]

SWTOR An Exclusive Download for EA's New "Origin"
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/SWTOR-Star-Wars-MMOG-Origin-digital-distribution,12875.html

Yeah, we knew that several days ago.

[Merusk]

Yeah, we knew that like 3 pages ago.  It doesn't indicate that it's the ONLY way to get it, just the only digital distro.  You should still be able to get physical CDs, etc.

[Soln]

Yeah, we knew that like 3 pages ago.  It doesn't indicate that it's the ONLY way to get it, just the only digital distro.  You should still be able to get physical CDs, etc.

any mention if you need it to activate the CD key?  Cause that would suck.

[Merusk]

I'm going to wager, yes.  It'll be how they do their patching and everything else since they make Sims3 use it for their stuff.  Can't let you use their bandwidth without subjecting you to at least SOME ads about the latest shovelware of whatever franchise they're beating into the ground this year.

Ed: Then again, you don't  need to use it for MA or DA which are also Bioware...  so who knows.

[sinij]

SWTOR An Exclusive Download for EA's New "Origin"
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/SWTOR-Star-Wars-MMOG-Origin-digital-distribution,12875.html

Yeah, we knew that several days ago.

I didn't get the memo, seeing how nobody made a big deal about it.

[Velorath]

SWTOR An Exclusive Download for EA's New "Origin"
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/SWTOR-Star-Wars-MMOG-Origin-digital-distribution,12875.html

Yeah, we knew that several days ago.

I didn't get the memo, seeing how nobody made a big deal about it.

The digital download version being exclusive to Origin isn't that big a deal, which is why people aren't making a big deal about it.  It's kinda annoying that it won't be available through Steam, but things already looked to be going that way when Dragon Age II wasn't available on Steam until the cut-off for the premium version had passed.  Also, we're talking about an MMO here, so regardless you're going to end up having to sign up for an EA run online service in order to play it anyway.  If it ends up being tied into Origin, does it really make much of a difference?

[luckton]

Machinima.com's interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX1JdRrilXs

"Don't worry guys, raids aren't going to be all talk."

Origin 'Exclusive' Producer Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShyVh-dVo-g

[Amaron]

Same with the 'fully voiced quest dialog'.  (Sky wins this round  )

You thought fully voiced quest dialog wouldn't be good?

[Murgos]

You thought fully voiced quest dialog wouldn't be good?

Have you read most quest text?  Blah, blah, blah ain't in it.

[Amaron]

Have you read most quest text?  Blah, blah, blah ain't in it.

Ahh true.  That would of been retarded.  I guess I always assumed fully VO just meant no boring quest text.   That could of easily been wrong though.   Watching the interview was interesting regarding this.  I found it amusing that they basically sent a demo with player voiceovers and a price tag to Lucas/Bosses thinking it would be rejected.

[luckton]

Have you read most quest text?  Blah, blah, blah ain't in it.

Ahh true.  That would of been retarded.  I guess I always assumed fully VO just meant no boring quest text.   That could of easily been wrong though.   Watching the interview was interesting regarding this.  I found it amusing that they basically sent a demo with player voiceovers and a price tag to Lucas/Bosses thinking it would be rejected.

Lucas may be an 'artard, but he does like quality, no matter the cost.  So far, that philosophy has worked out for him.  He's also been sitting on the live-action Star Wars series for a few years now, but he says he's waiting for the tech to come out that will make it faster to kick out episodes at the high quality he expects.

I'm liking the bit about how dungeon dialogue will work like /rolling on loot.     Already talked about, but the bit about how the Smuggler saying off the wall was refreshing.

[Amaron]

I'm liking the bit about how dungeon dialogue will work like /rolling on loot.     Already talked about, but the bit about how the Smuggler saying off the wall was refreshing.

I actually really feel this idea is maybe kind of horrible.  I remember watching one of the videos and the fucker took some dialog choices that clearly ended the dialog early.   The equivalent of not clicking through all the "investigate" stuff in Mass Effect.   Considering the MMO crowd I'm betting we'll see every dialog ended as quick as possible.

The fact that each class has completely different choices mollifies me somewhat but I intend to play every class anyways so I'm not sure how much.

[luckton]

I actually really feel this idea is maybe kind of horrible.  I remember watching one of the videos and the fucker took some dialog choices that clearly ended the dialog early.   The equivalent of not clicking through all the "investigate" stuff in Mass Effect.   Considering the MMO crowd I'm betting we'll see every dialog ended as quick as possible.

The fact that each class has completely different choices mollifies me somewhat but I intend to play every class anyways so I'm not sure how much.

The way I see it, the dialogue options won't affect how your crew does a dungeon...I think it's more of an entertainment thing to see various responses and have a laugh or two.  For some PUG scrub to come in and grief the group by picking (or getting picked due to the random roll) a poor option doesn't sound like something they would let pass.

Alternatively, I've heard that regardless of whoever gets vocalized, the dialogue option you choose does get reflected in your LS/DS score and social points thingy.

[Outlawedprod]

Another CG trailer (the return)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPQHiVecHZs

doh this was posted already.  somehow i missed a page of replies.  I will say the budget on these trailers seems pretty high. I wonder how much their advertising budget is.

[Rendakor]

Thank you for this very much Good.

No, thank you for your unintelligble spam, sir.

[Evildrider]

Thank you for this very much Good.

10 dolla sucky sucky

[Spiff]

No release date at E3 and it's going gold this year? I'm slightly baffled.
I guess they're going for a real steep marketing build-up, with a pre-order faux beta or something.

[UnSub]

Earlier this year, EA's CEO, CFO and BioWare all had different ideas about when SWOR is launching. No-one knows.

[VainEldritch]

No release date at E3 and it's going gold this year? I'm slightly baffled.
I guess they're going for a real steep marketing build-up, with a pre-order faux beta or something.

Yeah, me too. I was holding out hope that The Date may be revealed despite the community handler's best efforts to say it wouldn't be without actually saying it wouldn't be... silly me.

Earlier this year, EA's CEO, CFO and BioWare all had different ideas about when SWOR is launching. No-one knows.

I'd hope this indicates a hands-off approach by EA so that BW can just get the game "finished" 'n' polished, and that BW doesn't care about The Date until they know they have got it "finished" and can polish it before it ships.

[Velorath]

Earlier this year, EA's CEO, CFO and BioWare all had different ideas about when SWOR is launching. No-one knows.

Right now I imagine it changes day to day and is probably going to be the topic of several more meetings.  When you've got one of the most expensive games ever made, if not the most expensive, your launch window is probably something you're going to analyze pretty damn closely.

[Tannhauser]

Wild conjecture time!  What if Blizzard is waiting for SWTOR's release date to undercut them by announcing D3 will release on the same day?

I know they are very different games, but Blizzard has shown to be very effective in this strategy. 

[Sky]

I don't think Diablo is as big a factor for TOR as some people are making it out to be.

Anyway, about the release date: while the suits at EA may have their agenda (which may include D3), I'm pretty sure from the Bioware end it's all being dictated by the feature lock. They really want to polish, and even with the lock, it's going to take time with something that massive. At least we've heard the lock was put in place, so it's inevitable now that feature creep shouldn't be a factor.

[Amaron]

Wild conjecture time!  What if Blizzard is waiting for SWTOR's release date to undercut them by announcing D3 will release on the same day?

I seriously doubt we will see this.  It's way too risky with no easily measurable benefit.  Plus it's a total long term strategy move.  For a publicly traded company to pull such a stunt just doesn't make enough sense to conventional business thinking.   WoW expansions are a different beast all together though.

[luckton]

If the window hasn't changed, I'll go with December 6th, 2011 for release.  Gives them a couple weeks before Christmas to get it out, post-patch if needed and then enjoy the holiday.