Fringe

[Merusk]

Yeah, I'd normally have expected the 5 murders and the resolution to be spread out over 3-4 episodes at a minimum.  That it was all in a single episode was great.  Looks like it's "threat of the week" next week. Getting a strong 3rd-4th season X-files vibe here where they do these kind of things flipping between the long arc and the short ones to keep folks invested.

[HaemishM]

I'm hoping they realize they are likely to get shitcanned at the end of the season and wrap up the "Doom Machine" storyline and tie up a lot of the Walternate/Fauxlivia storylines. That way, if they do get canned, we have a resolution that doesn't suck ass like X-Files did, and if they get renewed, they can dream up something else without it feeling like they are dragging out a show past the shark jumping moment.

[Merusk]

[Surlyboi]

Right there with you. Serious WTFage right there.

[Nerf]

Right there with you. Serious WTFage right there.

I'll see your and raise you a


What. The. Fuck.

[Tannhauser]

I love this show!  Nice tie up for the season while opening more doors for the next.  Seriously fucked up ending!

[Hawkbit]

[Tannhauser]

[HaemishM]

[Mrbloodworth]

[Tannhauser]

[Merusk]

Aside from my initial WTF moment, the more I think on it the less it makes sense and irritates me as bad writing.  I'm hoping it's just because I don't know the resolution yet.

[HaemishM]

[luckton]

So yeah...new season's up.


Query: If Joshua Jackson isn't actually going to be in the first few episodes, does he still get a full paycheck? 

[HaemishM]

The first episode of the new season felt really slow but on reflection, it threw A LOT at us in a short time. It's actually kind of masterful, IMO, the way they subtly integrated some of the consequences of Peter's absence without hitting us over the head with it. I especially liked seeing the effects on Walter of not having Peter as his anchor. I think once the season is over, this will either be one of the best writing jobs ever, or the worst.

[luckton]

The first episode of the new season felt really slow but on reflection, it threw A LOT at us in a short time.

If anything it setup the main story-arc of the season, whatever these new shapeshifters are or whatever.

Also, was nice to see Joe Flannigan can still get work in a post-Stargate world.  I was quite shocked to see him turn up, and then subsequently killed off...would have been nice to have him around, IMO.

[Surlyboi]

I like where this is going...

[Tannhauser]

It was good to see an Olivia/Walter episode.  The bravery of Walter leaving the lab and Olivia's compassion and the small moments they had were terrific. 

[cironian]

[luckton]

One can only infer. Would still like to see the Other Side Nina at some point 

[Tannhauser]

[Cheddar]

Season 3 is on sale at Bestbuy this week.  $18.99 for DVD or $24.99 for Blue Ray. 

Perfect timing- gives me something to watch while travelling!

[apocrypha]

Anyone still watching this?

Despite the clear Chris Carter tendencies I'm still enjoying it mostly, but the storylines have got very confused. I may have to go back and re-watch a lot of previous seasons to try and work out wtf is happening.

They badly, badly need to get some tighter control on it though. I'd like to see them wrap it up, not let it drag on into nonsense for another 3 seasons, but it doesn't feel like they have enough creative oomph to achieve that.

[Merusk]

Still watching off and on.  It can't hold my attention but I leave it on as background noise Friday nights.

It's on American TV, it won't "Wrap Up" until the ratings plummet and they're told there won't be another season.  We don't kill shows making money until WAY past their prime when the narrative should have long-ago ended or the cast gets sick of doing it. (24, Family Guy, South Park, Simpsons, Seinfeld, Friends, Married With Children)

Ed: Haemish's comment in Alcatraz about TN made me go look to see if that piece of shit was cancelled (not yet)  In doing so I discovered Fox announced Fringe was losing money (A sci-fi show on Fox Friday losing money?! That's a first!)  so they'd better wrap-up this season.

[Surlyboi]

This season has been decent so far. Not super, but solid. Watching Anna Torv play the two Olivias is genuinely fascinating. The body movements, the speech patterns, she's gotten a lot better as the show has progressed.

The twist this season has taken the show in a direction I didn't expect.

[apocrypha]

It's on American TV, it won't "Wrap Up" until the ratings plummet and they're told there won't be another season.  We don't kill shows making money until WAY past their prime when the narrative should have long-ago ended or the cast gets sick of doing it. (24, Family Guy, South Park, Simpsons, Seinfeld, Friends, Married With Children)

Breaking Bad. Hopefully the exception to that rule!

This season has been decent so far. Not super, but solid. Watching Anna Torv play the two Olivias is genuinely fascinating. The body movements, the speech patterns, she's gotten a lot better as the show has progressed.

The twist this season has taken the show in a direction I didn't expect.

Yeah that's been great, very impressed with how both her and John Noble (Walter) have acted different versions of the same character. Lance Reddick (Broyles)? Not so much.

[Tannhauser]

I'm still quite enjoying it.  Really enjoying the mythos still and the acting is great.  My only worry is that they don't finish it up, especially the Observers, before it's cancelled.

I didn't watch Terra Nova because Fox cancels too quick and that it sucked anyway.

[Ruvaldt]

I didn't watch Terra Nova because Fox cancels too quick and that it sucked anyway.

I think in this case they've given the show more than enough of a chance to form an audience.  Each season premiere attracted fewer and fewer viewers; two million fewer each time, in fact.  The show is now down to 2.7 million viewers for the ninth episode of the season, and that's down a whole 700,000 from the premiere.  If the show doesn't receive closure I'd consider it the fault of the producers/writers of the show for choosing not to end it while they still can and not Fox.

[Tannhauser]

Ok that's a fair point.  The writing does suuuuuuucccccckkkkkk.

[HaemishM]

I actually like what they've done with the new timeline this year, but I can see where it would create confusion. Essentially, everything that happened on the show before HASN'T happened. David Robert Jones didn't get cut in half by Peter, so no one knew about him on either side. It's given them the ability to make any story they want without being fettered to past continuity unnecessarily. I do think they better wrap it up this year, because if it survives, I'll be amazed. The ratings are terribad.

[Johny Cee]

I actually like what they've done with the new timeline this year, but I can see where it would create confusion. Essentially, everything that happened on the show before HASN'T happened. David Robert Jones didn't get cut in half by Peter, so no one knew about him on either side. It's given them the ability to make any story they want without being fettered to past continuity unnecessarily. I do think they better wrap it up this year, because if it survives, I'll be amazed. The ratings are terribad.

Rumors were circulating that, due to the ownership structure of the show, it is much more likely to stick around with sub-par ratings at least until they get to a good number of episodes for syndication.  Warner Television is the rights holder, so it makes sense to generate content for their cable channels.

[Surlyboi]

Holy shit, Astro!

[luckton]

New episodes are back on right now...a non-stop trip of new ones for the next 7 weeks to be exact.  The new one from Friday was pretty 

[Tannhauser]

Fringe is back!  Yeah, at this point they should double down for syndication.  WGN or TBS will run it into the ground.
Poor Lincoln Lee, how can he go up against a dude who travels universes.  Go update your twitter feed #niceguysfinishlast

[Surlyboi]

I saw the reveal coming a few episodes back, still awesome.