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Reply #595 on: September 24, 2010, 06:51:38 AM

There's nothing wrong with the dress in just about any other situation than a kids show.  It's Sesame Street.  Nobody (Katy's or Sesame's) thought that this would be the one time in her career to class it up a notch?  

A time and a place... and all that.

Oh my god! Some cleavage can be seen! Won't someone protect the children! And legs too! Quick someone get a bhurka on that woman stat!

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Reply #596 on: September 24, 2010, 07:25:33 AM

Yes, a bhurka was exactly what I was thinking.  You're overreacting as much as the media. 

It's simply about appropriateness. 

Even worse than the dress is her shitty music.  I'd rather my daughter look at boobs than have to listen to that shite all day. 
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Reply #597 on: September 24, 2010, 07:36:23 AM

Okay so I don't get the "shitty music" thing. Maybe I don't listen to enough music lately, but she seems merely average. Shitty is like...shitty. I'm pretty sure it's not out of tune, and the lyrics are inconsequential because it's pop. Is it...too simplistic? Doesn't add enough to the body of music as a whole? I mean, everybody sings repetitive simple music these days, but there's an awful lot of focus here on how shitty her stuff is.

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Reply #598 on: September 24, 2010, 07:47:07 AM

American children can't see boobies or the terrorists win?

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Reply #599 on: September 24, 2010, 08:08:38 AM

I don't think it needed to be pulled, but why not just sing in jeans and a shirt? It could be a tight shirt, if you want. It's Sesame Street, I don't think you need to worry about the kids getting warped, but there's no reason to get all glammed up either.

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Reply #600 on: September 24, 2010, 08:12:34 AM

Except that it was part of the song? She's dressing up.
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Reply #601 on: September 24, 2010, 08:13:17 AM

Except that it was part of the song? She's dressing up.

Then people are silly.

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Reply #602 on: September 24, 2010, 08:39:41 AM

Then people are silly.
This should not be a huge surprise, really.

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Reply #603 on: September 24, 2010, 08:45:11 AM

(singing) C is for cleavage, that's good enough for me...

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Reply #604 on: September 24, 2010, 09:23:21 AM

Then people are silly.
This should not be a huge surprise, really.

Not surprised, sometimes you just have to call it like it is though. It sort of falls under the "Don't sweat the small stuff," credo.

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Reply #605 on: September 24, 2010, 09:42:38 AM


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Reply #606 on: September 24, 2010, 10:17:49 AM

Yes, a bhurka was exactly what I was thinking.  You're overreacting as much as the media. 

It's simply about appropriateness. 

Even worse than the dress is her shitty music.  I'd rather my daughter look at boobs than have to listen to that shite all day. 

So wait. Her wearing a dress that wouldn't be out of place on a '50s sitcom like Leave it to Beaver is inappropriate? Because you know, you can see a bit of cleavage? What are we going to turn toddlers into sex maniacs if we let a female leg or collar bone be seen?

It wasn't inappropriate and to think otherwise is just silly.

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Reply #607 on: September 24, 2010, 10:30:58 AM

Not only that, but we should all instinctively rail against any initiative to cover up Katy's boobies.

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Reply #608 on: September 24, 2010, 10:38:50 AM

It's simply about appropriateness.  

It still hasn't been explained what's "inappropriate" about Katy Perry having boobs.  IIRC there were complaints from mothers after screeings of that Herbie movie that Lindsay Lohan's boobs were too big.  Not that her clothes were too revealing, mind you, but that Lohan's body shape in itself was just too curvy and provocative for kids to be looking at -- this was right before she became an anorexic train wreck.  What sort of message does that send to kids?

What are parents afraid of?  That their kids will see her breasts and get hungry?  

What are we going to turn toddlers into sex maniacs if we let a female leg or collar bone be seen?

Valid questions.  What exactly is the fear here?

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Reply #609 on: September 24, 2010, 10:50:20 AM

Yes, a bhurka was exactly what I was thinking.  You're overreacting as much as the media. 

It's simply about appropriateness. 

Even worse than the dress is her shitty music.  I'd rather my daughter look at boobs than have to listen to that shite all day. 

So wait. Her wearing a dress that wouldn't be out of place on a '50s sitcom like Leave it to Beaver is inappropriate? Because you know, you can see a bit of cleavage? What are we going to turn toddlers into sex maniacs if we let a female leg or collar bone be seen?

It wasn't inappropriate and to think otherwise is just silly.

Just for the record, here's Katy's dress:




And here's the first three June Cleaver images that came up for Google images:





Sure, there were some pics that came up that looked like Katy's dress in that search, but each was listed as a pin up girl.  How many pin up girls were shown on Sesame Street?

My issue stems not from letting our children see nudity.  That's what the media is focusing on and frankly, that part is only to drive headlines.  I allow my five year old to view almost any type of art in a museum or gallery hop that she wishes.  Of course, if it is graphic I'll turn her away, but I'm not embarrassed of the body and I'm trying to instill in her that she should not be, either.

I take issue with the lack of respect towards the institution.  Again, I wouldn't wear a speedo to my wife's next christmas party.... there's a time and a place for everything.


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Reply #610 on: September 24, 2010, 10:55:40 AM

Since it'll still be on YouTube, my son will still be pleased.  Elmo + pretty lady + boobies.  He'll love it.

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Reply #611 on: September 24, 2010, 11:00:12 AM


Oh no!  Bare shoulders!

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Reply #612 on: September 24, 2010, 11:02:23 AM

Did you just google 'big bird cleavage' or something?



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Reply #613 on: September 24, 2010, 11:06:14 AM

Did you just google 'big bird cleavage' or something?

I would be surprised if even one hit on the first page of that image search had anything to do with Sesame Street.

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Reply #614 on: September 24, 2010, 11:07:20 AM

Did you just google 'big bird cleavage' or something?

I would be surprised if even one hit on the first page of that image search had anything to do with Sesame Street.

I'm terrified to even try it.

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Reply #615 on: September 24, 2010, 11:14:14 AM

To continue the "what's appropriate on Sesame Street" derail, what do you think the odds are that if an actor on the modern Sesame Street died, they'd acknowledge it in any way on the show rather than pretend he never existed for fear of being "inappropriate"?  (Anyone else here remember when Mr. Hooper died?)

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Reply #616 on: September 24, 2010, 11:36:42 AM

I was sad for weeks.

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Reply #617 on: September 24, 2010, 11:40:13 AM

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Reply #618 on: September 24, 2010, 11:41:57 AM


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Reply #619 on: September 24, 2010, 12:45:20 PM

After thinking about it a bit I think what rankles with me is the way that the video is nothing more than a promotional video for Katy Perry. Compare it, for instance, with Ladysmith Black Mambazo's alphabet, from "back in teh day": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2spD2F6ZCM

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Reply #620 on: September 24, 2010, 12:47:57 PM

The real question is "Why was she even asked to be on Sesame Street?" not if the dress shows too much boob.

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Reply #621 on: September 24, 2010, 12:59:06 PM


Just for the record, here's Katy's dress:



I take issue with the lack of respect towards the institution.  Again, I wouldn't wear a speedo to my wife's next christmas party.... there's a time and a place for everything.




This doesn't compute. Sorry. Her having bare shoulders and showing some cleavage is not akin to something like a speedo at a Christmas party. It's just not. I guess they could have made her wear a turtleneck but I just don't see the big deal here. I don't. I'd let my daughter watch it and never think twice about it.

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Reply #622 on: September 24, 2010, 01:09:48 PM

After thinking about it a bit I think what rankles with me is the way that the video is nothing more than a promotional video for Katy Perry. Compare it, for instance, with Ladysmith Black Mambazo's alphabet, from "back in teh day": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2spD2F6ZCM

That's been the way of celebrity appearances on Sesame Street for a long time now.  I don't know if it's that celebrities can't be bothered to come up with unique content for the show and/or won't appear unless they think they can promote themselves in the process, or that the producers think that kids just want to see familiar celebs doing completely familiar things, or what.

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Reply #623 on: September 24, 2010, 02:34:15 PM

I was working on a casual game, and someone bugged some cleavage. I've only been doing casual games for a few years now, but apprently there is a very vocal minority in the soccer mom set that can't hack cleavage.

Boggled my mind. The costume fit the character, and I didn't think twice, but they told me they've gotten complaints in the past about stuff like that.




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Reply #624 on: September 24, 2010, 07:33:30 PM

After thinking about it a bit I think what rankles with me is the way that the video is nothing more than a promotional video for Katy Perry. Compare it, for instance, with Ladysmith Black Mambazo's alphabet, from "back in teh day": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2spD2F6ZCM

That's been the way of celebrity appearances on Sesame Street for a long time now.  I don't know if it's that celebrities can't be bothered to come up with unique content for the show and/or won't appear unless they think they can promote themselves in the process, or that the producers think that kids just want to see familiar celebs doing completely familiar things, or what.

I saw an interview with the Exec. Producer that pretty much said that the main use for the celebrities was to get young parents to watch the show.
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Reply #625 on: September 24, 2010, 08:32:59 PM

I like Russel Brand's response: "Today's Sesame Street will NOT be brought to you by the number 34 or the letter D... Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sex-with-me Street?"
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Reply #626 on: September 24, 2010, 10:07:35 PM

After thinking about it a bit I think what rankles with me is the way that the video is nothing more than a promotional video for Katy Perry. Compare it, for instance, with Ladysmith Black Mambazo's alphabet, from "back in teh day": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2spD2F6ZCM
Or Richard Pryor's Sesame Street alphabetwhy so serious?

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Reply #627 on: September 24, 2010, 10:27:11 PM

Less lip, more nip.

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Reply #628 on: September 25, 2010, 08:10:02 AM

Lady Gaga will be on later this week wearing Bert and Ernie.

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Reply #629 on: September 25, 2010, 09:11:16 AM

Lady Gaga will be on later this week wearing Bert and Ernie.

Dunno why, but I laughed at the imagery.  awesome, for real

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