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Reply #2275 on: December 30, 2009, 07:52:00 AM

Well considering it scales according to your party level, you might want to do it sooner rather than later. Also as a higher level the Revenant will have mass pull, and will smack you around just as hard.

I'd keep trying that section over, until you work your way past it, and I think on my first playthrough it took me 4 tries before I killed him. Second playthrough I had leveled more, doing different sections first, and still needed to do it more than once because knowing what tactics are needed and getting them timed/working perfectly are different.
Certain mobs are designed to be a minimum difficulty, so if you go into an area at low level and one of those types of mobs is part of the area (and revenants are indeed one of 'those' mobs) the mob will be vastly higher level than anything else around, since most of the area will adjust to your level, but it won't.

Furthermore, once you zone into an area, that area's level range is locked for the rest of the playthrough.  If you go away, level 5 times and come back, the area won't re-adjust to your new level, the mobs will still be at the same level range the area was locked to when you first zoned in.

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Reply #2276 on: December 30, 2009, 07:57:44 AM

finally finished my first play thru and started a god damn dwarf commoner last night. Going to attempt to dual wield warrior his ass in the vein of a Slayer. I hate dwarfs but for some reason, I am having a pretty good time with this game's interpretation of them.

Dwarves in this game are very well done, except I still can't get past how jarring it is that while everyone else is fairly standard fantasy neutral - dwarfs all have really strong US accents.

(except player dwarves who sound like a love child of Brian Blessed and Kiera Knightley)


I noticed that.. But it made a good twist to the usual way dwarves are presented. Not sure how to put it, but there is something about the American accent that made them more down to earth to me (that's entirely subjective, I know), and since the dwarves are literally down to earth, it fits!  rolleyes cheesy It also helped emphasize some of the Wild West feel of the casteless.
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Reply #2277 on: December 30, 2009, 08:32:05 AM

About Revenant pull -- they only do it if there's more enemies at range from them compared to melee range. So if you can have two warriors (preferably, for the armour) close like Alistair + whoever, the other two can stay safely out of his attack range.
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Reply #2278 on: December 30, 2009, 08:37:11 AM

I wish there had been more Revenant encounters actually. Or something. By the time you get some gear and Wynne (if you're smart, you have Wynne at least), they are one of the few common things that could still kick your ass.
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Reply #2279 on: December 30, 2009, 08:46:27 AM

The Revenant in the forest I had to come back to later.  I simply didn't have to tools to handle it that early in the game.  Pulling never seems to be a problem for me though.  I set one person to melee and everyone else to range.  When it pulls a character, usually Morrigan for me, I start playing Yakkity Sax.  She can survive a hit or two with some potions thrown in and it simply ignores everyone else to hit her.  At least until my main character Rogue hit 18.  Now she stands toe-to-toe with the Revenant and is barely touched.

She's hardly a religious nut.
She's a complete religious nut.  She may not believe in accepted dogma, but if you disagree with anything having to do with the Maker being a benevolent, just, loving, and only god you take a major hit in her loyalty.  I had to get her past all that mumbo-jumbo before my character was able to even begin considering to like her.  Thankfully once she starts talking about Orlais she lays off the Maker talk.

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Reply #2280 on: December 30, 2009, 09:05:58 AM

Hmm, I guess it's all a matter of perspective. It's neat how things are viewed from different players.

With all my templar talk, I was more "neutral". I tried to adopt whatever worked, including Blood powers. I guess I personally identify with that, but character wise, I set out to mimic Duncan and the "neutrality" of Wardens in general. Speaking strictly in terms of gameplay, it's an easy way to get the most out of powers/party. I wasn't particularly turned off by any member, except Sten. But that's mostly because of the developers. Not Sten. I hate the fact that the game emphasizes socializing, then they write a character who makes you fucking feel bad for talking to him!  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #2281 on: December 30, 2009, 10:26:59 AM

I think what bothers me about the American accents, is it makes it too familiar. They're like people who live next door, or coworkers or something. If they had some with American accents and some with English or Scottish or whatever, it'd be better, because it becomes more of a regional thing. (Like in Willow.)

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Reply #2282 on: December 30, 2009, 11:30:22 AM

finally finished my first play thru and started a god damn dwarf commoner last night. Going to attempt to dual wield warrior his ass in the vein of a Slayer. I hate dwarfs but for some reason, I am having a pretty good time with this game's interpretation of them.

Dwarves in this game are very well done, except I still can't get past how jarring it is that while everyone else is fairly standard fantasy neutral - dwarfs all have really strong US accents.

(except player dwarves who sound like a love child of Brian Blessed and Kiera Knightley)


The accents are actually fairly structured. Fereldan humans pretty much all have British accents of some flavor, with the strange exception of Wynne. Orlesian humans are French. Dwarves and elves have American/Canadian accents for the most part. Sten is... whatever he is. Flemeth is different too, but she's also unique background-wise.

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Reply #2283 on: December 30, 2009, 06:35:25 PM

Shockingly, I am just as engrossed with this dwarf play thru as I was on my first run thru with my Dalish. Amazingly well done when you can make the same game but have different encounters altogether. Dwarf berserker dual wielding axes will be awesome once I unlock the talent for it, for now, I'll take the axe/dagger combo.

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Reply #2284 on: December 30, 2009, 06:37:29 PM

Given that no matter how the game ends you can't continue playing once it ends, I imagine it's aimed for re-rolls and people who haven't finished.

Rumor has it that a future DLC will be a mini-expansion that  so that would have to be post-endgame, kind of how Broken Steel changed the ending of Fallout 3.

I really hope they do this. Morrigan was my favorite character and I really want to know what ends up happening with her.

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Reply #2285 on: December 30, 2009, 06:42:37 PM

Given that no matter how the game ends you can't continue playing once it ends, I imagine it's aimed for re-rolls and people who haven't finished.

Rumor has it that a future DLC will be a mini-expansion that  so that would have to be post-endgame, kind of how Broken Steel changed the ending of Fallout 3.

I really hope they do this. Morrigan was my favorite character and I really want to know what ends up happening with her.

I'm only about 1/4 through (I think), and I find her and shale to be the only characters that interest me at all from a character standpoint, and shale barely.

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Reply #2286 on: December 31, 2009, 03:09:15 AM

Shale is hilarious, so is Sten in a sort of Steven Wright in the military sort of way. Shale's backhand comments keep making me bring her back into my parties everytime I leave camp. That and her AoE and what with me stacking her con and taunt/threaten. Golem tank is almost cheating.

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Reply #2287 on: December 31, 2009, 04:52:30 AM

It probably is. With Wynne healing, nothing can take Shale down. Not even the Archdemon.
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Reply #2288 on: December 31, 2009, 05:36:34 AM

Given that no matter how the game ends you can't continue playing once it ends, I imagine it's aimed for re-rolls and people who haven't finished.

Rumor has it that a future DLC will be a mini-expansion that  so that would have to be post-endgame, kind of how Broken Steel changed the ending of Fallout 3.

Bioware have already said they plan to mke it accessible from the epilogue save.

But personally, given this stuff is coming out one hour at a time, I plan to let them release a year or so's worth and then catch it all on a new playthrough.

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Reply #2289 on: January 01, 2010, 01:19:06 AM


Has anyone been able to get through the Deep Roads sans mage? I want to bring both Shale and Oghren, and a rogue to be named later (probably Lel).
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Reply #2290 on: January 01, 2010, 01:54:07 AM


Has anyone been able to get through the Deep Roads sans mage? I want to bring both Shale and Oghren, and a rogue to be named later (probably Lel).

I did one playthrough with only Whynne auto-healer mode, but I'm sure it's do-able if you carry explosive flasks and spread the health pots around liberally when swarmed.

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Reply #2291 on: January 01, 2010, 06:19:58 AM


Has anyone been able to get through the Deep Roads sans mage? I want to bring both Shale and Oghren, and a rogue to be named later (probably Lel).

Just drop the difficulty down to easy and carry lots of health pots.

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Reply #2292 on: January 01, 2010, 09:52:53 AM

Yesterday I did the first Redcliff fight with the waves of zombies storming the village square with 3 rogues and Morrigan. It worked pretty well.

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Reply #2293 on: January 01, 2010, 10:19:21 AM

The trick to that one is to actually give two tugs of a dead dogs cock about your surroundings !!

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Reply #2294 on: January 01, 2010, 08:19:55 PM

Has anyone been able to get through the Deep Roads sans mage? I want to bring both Shale and Oghren, and a rogue to be named later (probably Lel).

I can't see why it would be a problem, train traps and poison, and it'd be awfully handy if Oghren and yourself are templars, so you can deal with the emissaries.

Might get a little dicey if you choose to side with Branka.

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Reply #2295 on: January 02, 2010, 09:11:37 AM

Has anyone been able to get through the Deep Roads sans mage? I want to bring both Shale and Oghren, and a rogue to be named later (probably Lel).

I can't see why it would be a problem, train traps and poison, and it'd be awfully handy if Oghren and yourself are templars, so you can deal with the emissaries.

Might get a little dicey if you choose to side with Branka.

yah I was toying around with a previous save with my champ/temp. It was easier than I thought (well, it was easy with a crapload of pots and poisons). I would have finished it faster but I pulled an Ironwood. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly? (I was toying with the Caridin/Branka diag thinking I had a later save. I ended up back at the broodmother)

After putting up with Vartag and Bhelin's crap the first time, it was incredibly satisfying to side with Harrowmont. "Epic Fail" , indeed.


edit: Ok that may have been a bit cryptic,  so for those who don't know and want to find out
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Reply #2296 on: January 02, 2010, 10:07:40 AM

There is something uniquely satisfying slapping that Redcliff bitch and shanking her demon child.  awesome, for real


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Reply #2297 on: January 02, 2010, 01:11:26 PM

Has anyone managed to sleep with multiple characters? My first playthrough was with a male, and since  I'm currently playing a female elf, and I've got Alister, Zephron and Leilana all sizzling. I may have accidentally comitted to Leilana, but I'm wondering if you can be a total slut and have your way with any of 'em without the rest caring/catching on/abandoning. That would be aswome.

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Reply #2298 on: January 02, 2010, 01:15:03 PM

Leliana has her my way or the highway speech. I never pushed it too far.  Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #2299 on: January 02, 2010, 01:20:10 PM

LOL I got THE TALK from her before our first kiss. Unlike Jay-z I have 100 problems.
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Reply #2300 on: January 02, 2010, 01:29:32 PM

Has anyone managed to sleep with multiple characters?


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Reply #2301 on: January 02, 2010, 01:42:25 PM

I didn't get Morrigan high enough in faction until towards the end of the game, after I had already been with Lel. No one cared. I also did the dirty deed with Morrigan before the final battle.

Also, my avatar had the dumbest shit-eating grin on his face during both cutscenes...it was annoying. And the fact that morrigan changes INTO underwear is sort of annoying, as she obviously was not wearing a lace bra beforehand.

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Reply #2302 on: January 02, 2010, 04:59:47 PM

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Reply #2303 on: January 02, 2010, 09:26:55 PM


Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #2304 on: January 02, 2010, 10:58:58 PM

See the thing it, i got leliana to scold me for sleeping with morrigan and it knocked leliana's faction down a lot but with enough gifts and smooth talking she was back up to 100 and then she slept with me, even after yelling at me about morrigan. so either it was a bug or she just stopped caring with enough flowers.

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Reply #2305 on: January 03, 2010, 03:11:42 AM

Women eh ?

 awesome, for real

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Reply #2306 on: January 03, 2010, 08:39:16 AM

Wow, I haven't hooked up with anybody.

Too busy trying not to get my ass killed.

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Reply #2307 on: January 03, 2010, 09:07:32 AM

Assuming you talk to the companions without going out of your way to insult everyone, give gifts just to get the damn things out of your inventory, and complete the companion quests then all 3 gender appropriate partners pretty much throw themselves at you.

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Reply #2308 on: January 03, 2010, 09:57:23 AM

I really like the "realism" of the armor and weapons in this game, but part of me is jonesing for a weapon and armor that makes me go wow... I blame asian gaming. I thought Sten's sword would be omgwtf awesome but its just pedestrian looking. Granted, that gives it more credibility in the "real" dept, but this is a game with elves, dwarfs, and dragons (and orcs/goblins called darkspawn here)... I can live with it, but there is something to be said about flashy shit - legion armor is the prettiest of the game and its still understated.

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Reply #2309 on: January 03, 2010, 10:27:00 AM

A Starfang sword with some fire or lightning runes looks cool, I guess. Maybe not "wow!" worthy, but it's different.

I'd rather have a completely stylized look, period. Not necessarily exaggerated, but.. I don't know. Every "new gen" game that has stood out to me has been cel shaded. Wouldn't mind an RPG that looked like Prince of Persia or something (actually Tales of Vesparia is cel shaded.. Pretty game).
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