Star Trek Online: Here We Go Again!

[UnSub]

 There must be some clause in the relevant contract giving Cryptic a bonus if they get it out by February.  

They are going to need it once they all lose their jobs < 1 year later

The first performance bonus pays out August 2010 iirc.

Also, I'm expecting at least one delay in releasing this title. Hopefully it gets bumped from Feb to Sept 2010, at least.

[Lantyssa]

No, no, no.  It must launch on February 2.  My 'lulz' depend upon it.

[Ashamanchill]

I'm with Lantyssa. The buggier the better.

[statisticalfool]

No, no, no.  It must launch on February 2.  My 'lulz' depend upon it.

Maybe we should start a deadpool for what will be cut to make Feb 2nd.
* Klingons
* Any meaningful end game content
* Anything to do which isn't a) shoot things in space, b) shoot things on the ground?

[raydeen]

I just want holodecks filled with Romulan ale and green slave girls. I'll give 'em the Prime Directive until my warp core breaches!

[Malakili]

No, no, no.  It must launch on February 2.  My 'lulz' depend upon it.

Maybe we should start a deadpool for what will be cut to make Feb 2nd.
* Klingons
* Any meaningful end game content
* Anything to do which isn't a) shoot things in space, b) shoot things on the ground?

I'll add their "Genesis" system to this list, based on the state of the  "omega" system in Champions on released. (though this might fall under 2 or 3 above?)

They are going to have a lot of pissed fans of Klingons aren't in for release.

[Ashamanchill]

They are going to have a lot of pissed fans of Klingons aren't in for release.

Mak'tah!!!! This MMO has no honor!!!!

[ghost]

Star Trek without Klingons.  Wouldn't that be like WoW without any fucking elves?  Holy shit, they better expect it to bomb if they put it out like that.

[Count Nerfedalot]

No, no, no.  It must launch on February 2.  My 'lulz' depend upon it.

This whole scenario saddens me instead of entertaining me like WAR did.  

I was a fan of Cryptic's after CoH.  They released a wonderful game, lightweight but polished.  It was obviously a labor of love rather than a profit-driven marketing designed cynical money grab.  Admittedly they made some serious mistakes when altering the balance and direction of the game post-release, but I blindly (and wrongly) excused that as typical novice live-time mistakes.  Then along came CO, which was everything CoH wasn't at release.  Including unfinished, unpolished, unbalanced, unfun (ymmv), with all the worst post-launch CoH changes already implemented and most of the fun CoH ideas gouged out, scrubbed, sterilized,  incinerated and altogether expunged from the Vision.

All of which would make me cackle with glee at the prospect of watching the next karma-balancing slow-motion train wreck.

Except I have several Trekkie friends who are going to get burned by this because their only other MMOG experience so far has been WoW, and they and who knows how many thousands of others are going to reward Cryptic with money just because of the IP, even if Cryptic lays another buggy unfinished turd.

[Venkman]

Yea, there's a bunch of people of late who consider consider themselves "MMO players" until they hit their second MMO after the first was WoW. They quickly learn they are not quite MMO players after all 

[Kovacs]

I think Cryptic's plan is to develop MMOs that are profitable on 100k players. This involves a cut down development schedules and sticking close to the strengths of the Cryptic Engine (which relies on instancing, among other things). Cryptic isn't attempting to grab a lot of cash at release then let the game die - if they were going to do that, they should release single player games - because they are trying to build up a stable of MMOs in a short period of time. Atari wants to be in the MMO business and a key part of that is getting Cryptic to release a MMO in 2009, 2010 and probably 2011. ChampO wasn't the launch they wanted, I'm sure, but it is stage 1 of a bigger plan.

This make me think Cryptic Staion Pass. 

[Kovacs]

Except I have several Trekkie friends who are going to get burned by this because their only other MMOG experience so far has been WoW, and they and who knows how many thousands of others are going to reward Cryptic with money just because of the IP, even if Cryptic lays another buggy unfinished turd.

..and given the state of the industry I think the only choice for your friends is to get burned now or get burned later.  Everybody does it once.

[Kageru]

Which is of course why cryptic bought the IP and blizzard are just inventing one for their next MMO.

[Shatter]

No, no, no.  It must launch on February 2.  My 'lulz' depend upon it.

Agreed, this will be far more entertaining if they launch in February.  It wont be like watching a train wreck, more like a meteor pumels a plane which crashes into a train causing a train wreck where midget clown porn was being filmed

[fuser]

Collectors edition

• Deluxe Packaging: Futuristic 3dX holography set in a high quality brushed aluminum finish. Heavy duty construction with magnetic closures and nested compartments for all components.
• Deluxe Manual: High end, hardbound, art book, manual, and disc case in a single, elegant package. “HD Printing” on over 40 glossy pages of exclusive art from the Star Trek Online Universe.
• Communicator Badge: High quality cast metal design based on the in-game badge model. Fully 3d Sculpted with recessed burst and curved contours.
• Guest Passes: Credit card style buddy passes to invite three of your friends for a three day trial of Star Trek Online.
• Red Matter Capacitor: A unique item that charges up and delivers extra energy to all of your ship’s equipment for a short time. A device that, when used, gives you a small bump in energy, has a long recharge.
• Next Generation Uniform: Uniform Options from and the Next Generation. The timeless look worn by Picard, Data and Riker.
• “Deep Space Nine” Uniform: Uniform Options from the “Deep Space Nine” Series. Grey shoulders, on a black uniform, just like Sisko, Worf and Dax.

Gamestop preorders get a unique ship(constitution class) all preorders seem to have headstart/beta access.

[Shatter]

Collectors edition

• Deluxe Packaging: Futuristic 3dX holography set in a high quality brushed aluminum finish. Heavy duty construction with magnetic closures and nested compartments for all components.
• Deluxe Manual: High end, hardbound, art book, manual, and disc case in a single, elegant package. “HD Printing” on over 40 glossy pages of exclusive art from the Star Trek Online Universe.
• Communicator Badge: High quality cast metal design based on the in-game badge model. Fully 3d Sculpted with recessed burst and curved contours.
• Guest Passes: Credit card style buddy passes to invite three of your friends for a three day trial of Star Trek Online.
• Red Matter Capacitor: A unique item that charges up and delivers extra energy to all of your ship’s equipment for a short time. A device that, when used, gives you a small bump in energy, has a long recharge.
• Next Generation Uniform: Uniform Options from and the Next Generation. The timeless look worn by Picard, Data and Riker.
• “Deep Space Nine” Uniform: Uniform Options from the “Deep Space Nine” Series. Grey shoulders, on a black uniform, just like Sisko, Worf and Dax.

Gamestop preorders get a unique ship(constitution class) all preorders seem to have headstart/beta access.

Dibs on first buddy pass of first sucker to pick this up

[Mrbloodworth]

RED MATTER!


They are just giving that shit away now!

[HaemishM]

even if Cryptic lays another buggy unfinished turd.

IF? You have doubts?

[Evildrider]

Collectors edition

• Deluxe Packaging: Futuristic 3dX holography set in a high quality brushed aluminum finish. Heavy duty construction with magnetic closures and nested compartments for all components.
• Deluxe Manual: High end, hardbound, art book, manual, and disc case in a single, elegant package. “HD Printing” on over 40 glossy pages of exclusive art from the Star Trek Online Universe.
• Communicator Badge: High quality cast metal design based on the in-game badge model. Fully 3d Sculpted with recessed burst and curved contours.
• Guest Passes: Credit card style buddy passes to invite three of your friends for a three day trial of Star Trek Online.
• Red Matter Capacitor: A unique item that charges up and delivers extra energy to all of your ship’s equipment for a short time. A device that, when used, gives you a small bump in energy, has a long recharge.
• Next Generation Uniform: Uniform Options from and the Next Generation. The timeless look worn by Picard, Data and Riker.
• “Deep Space Nine” Uniform: Uniform Options from the “Deep Space Nine” Series. Grey shoulders, on a black uniform, just like Sisko, Worf and Dax.

Gamestop preorders get a unique ship(constitution class) all preorders seem to have headstart/beta access.

So wait, there's no standard uniform for Starfleet?  That's kind of stupid.

Although if I do plan on getting this, I'd get the collector's edition just for the Deep Space Nine uniforms.  I think those are pretty much the best of the bunch.

[Malakili]

So wait, there's no standard uniform for Starfleet?  That's kind of stupid.

Although if I do plan on getting this, I'd get the collector's edition just for the Deep Space Nine uniforms.  I think those are pretty much the best of the bunch.

I'd have to imagine you'll be able to customize your look a little.  While standard issue uniforms might make sense, it'd be kind of lame to have the entire world of people running around in exactly the same uniform.

[Nevermore]

Troi was a trendsetter.

[ghost]

Ooh.  Maybe they'll sell different dyes that you can get by PvPing........

[WindupAtheist]

Original crew movie uniforms or GTFO.

[Venkman]

Be careful with your use of the "original" or you could end up with 

[caladein]

I'm quite fond of TOS/2009-style costumes.  Everything else with the over-the-top frills or jumpsuits (except in the case of hot aliens) just looked crazy for day-to-day use.

Well, the one advantage of the TNG-style jumpsuits is that they got rid of the apparent "no women in pants" rule.

[Count Nerfedalot]

• Guest Passes: Credit card style buddy passes to invite three of your friends for a three day trial of Star Trek Online.

Gamestop preorders get a unique ship(constitution class) all preorders seem to have headstart/beta access.

Three whole days trial? wow

And I'm guessing the headstart/beta access will only get you in a couple days early at most?

Dang it.  As an explorer I'd love to boldly go where no man has gone before.  But I'm not sure if it will be any fun if no man (including myself) will ever be able to go there again.(instanced random content)

[Ratman_tf]

I'm quite fond of TOS/2009-style costumes.  Everything else with the over-the-top frills or jumpsuits (except in the case of hot aliens) just looked crazy for day-to-day use.

Well, the one advantage of the TNG-style jumpsuits is that they got rid of the apparent "no women in pants" rule.

TNG had a few men in skirts. I guess that idea didn't fly after the first season. 

[Triforcer]

I've read a couple hands-on previews that seem to imply that ship combat is actual fun, even if ground combat seems- questionable.  If all it gives is is good "tall ship" combat, I'm willing to live with that as a diversion until SWTOR comes out. 

[UnSub]

So wait, there's no standard uniform for Starfleet?  That's kind of stupid.

The following comments pointed out exactly why a range of Star Trek uniforms are on offer - plenty of players want to have TOS or NG or DS9 or whatever uniforms for their crew. Or combinations thereof.

Yes, it screws with how a 'real' pseudo-military organisation would work, but STO isn't setting out to be a simulation.

[Malakili]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8l0fDOx1GU

"Fleet Actions" Video.  Sounds like glorified public quests.

[Stormwaltz]

Original crew movie uniforms or GTFO.

QFT

[NowhereMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8l0fDOx1GU

"Fleet Actions" Video.  Sounds like glorified public quests.

I'm almost certain this game is going to be buggy unfinished crap but damn that video looked like fun.

[Malakili]

Some new screenshots http://kotaku.com/5420881/cryptic-gives-us-10-reasons-star-trek-fans-want-star-trek-online/gallery/4

[Megrim]

Be careful with your use of the "original" or you could end up with 

What's wrong with those?

[Nebu]

Some new screenshots http://kotaku.com/5420881/cryptic-gives-us-10-reasons-star-trek-fans-want-star-trek-online/gallery/4

I don't think those pictures will have a positive effect.  I wasn't impressed.  Too generic.