Darkfall "Released"

[eldaec]

Because of the unchangeable font, people who couldn't get names like Michelle and instead opted for MicheIIe are told to delete and start anew or risk being banned. Mods/Ops/whatever changing your name, even if self-reported, is not an option. It's like every action is balanced on some kind of tenuous thread. One day I'll just be Darkfalling Forever

People who name themselves 'MicheIIe' damn well ought to get banned on general principles.

Darkfalling Forever

Awesome song title.

[Hawkbit]

This thread was supposed to die on 69.

[Draegan]

Wat?

[justdave]

Wat?

Some sort of penis-compensatory hovercraft? That shoots fireballs?

Is this a Tribes 3 video?

[raydeen]

Ya know, I realize this game looks like 1999 ass, but the 'lulz' factor is almost too much to resist. I think I would have fun in this game for the mere fact that I can't take it seriously. It looks like a UT99 sword fight. And I liked those sword fights. Except they were free and this isn't. So 'almost'.

[Redgiant]

The only thing better than that bank video is: that bank video with dead fetus catapults added.

Can we call it Dawnfall for old times sake?

[Mrbloodworth]

Darkfall Etiquette Tips.   

[Nebu]

I thought Darkfall was too hardcore to require Etiquette.  Apparently even teh hardcore need something to whine about. 

[Merusk]

The chatbox screenshot in that article is 10x better than the article itself.

[Signe]

I could play that way.  Just stand by a bank and loot people that were killed by other people and deposit it right away.  But if someone did that to me, I'd complain about in chat incessantly.  Then I'd whine on the forums.  I'd enjoy that a lot, I think.

[UnSub]

And people wonder why open world PvP is a niche market...

I am not here to put forth arbitrary or self-righteous rules that would undermine the hardcore-PvP-sandbox nature of the game. Yes, you will get PK'd relentlessly (there is a "Gank" skill for heaven's sake!), you will lose hours of farming at someone's whim, you will be chased for half an hour even though you have no gear/gold to be stolen, you will be witness to incredibly vulgar player names and conversation, and you will most definitely be cheated out of that awesome loot you worked so hard for, and to top it off, this is all allowed by the mechanics of the game! So no, you shouldn't "ask nicely before you loot a corpse," and no, don't bother "stepping back to allow Player 1 to take that harvesting node," and most definitely don't "rez the poor guy right who died next to you." Chances are that corpse will be looted faster than you can utter a single syllable, the innocent harvester will whip out his polearm and PK you, and the "poor guy" will just kill you later when you are at low health.

[DLRiley]

It's not just any niche market, it's the niche market that won't make you any money. Your core playerbase is the type of player that absolutely love to put their virtual dick in someones mouth and would refuse to remove it unless that person logs off and proceeds to uninstall the game.

[Falconeer]

*groan* And here we are again with open PvP...



Open PvP is always consensual. And it's a game.

Darkfall sucks so bad, and not because of its open PvP. Actually, that's the only thing that makes it, on paper, remotely bearable.

Instead of always quoting how sick and/or stupid open PvP players are, why don't you try to understand people set their own goals in gaming and they don't have to be the same as yours? Open PvP is consensual, and while for some the ultimate goal to achieve in gaming is to kill countless AI controlled enemies and finally get the Glorious Belt of Awesome Power, to someone else the fun could be in surviving, if not in slaughtering, other players.

In a daring comparison, why is no one ever laughing and pointing at people into combat sports who are no champions? "Hey, you are a masochist! You are going to get hurt, and lose on top of it if you are not the best! You are sick!". Or the opposite if they are good: "You like to put your punch in someones mouth and refuse to remove it unless that person passes out (logs off) and proceeds to quit the sport (uninstall the game)! You are a psycho!"

Open PvP is consensual. And it's a game. If you sign on, you are supposed to know what it is about and like it. Otherwise stay away and don't piss in my pudding. Would you ever go up on the ring for a boxing match and get mad at your opponent for smashing your face with hooks you are not trained or naturally quick enough to parry?
As weird as it may sound, sometimes to play the prey and to play to survive, and to sometimes or accidentally overcome overwhelming odds, can be lots of fun.

And yes they are niche games and will stay like that as many other good things in the world. They are niche because not everything can be mainstream. Being niche doesn't equal bad, you know?


And again, no NDA so I can with all my heart say present day Darkfall sucks. Just, not because of the PvP ruleset.


EDIT: Since I am a tool, I summon edit powers to make things reasonable again. See Threash post below.

[Threash]

Would you ever go up on the ring for a boxing match and get mad at your opponent for smashing your face with kicks you are not trained or naturally quick enough to parry?

Uh, yes?

[Falconeer]

Threash, you are onto something big. Put a little more effort in it and you'll invent Real Life PvE martial arts. This will be next gen shadowboxing.

[Merusk]

His point was any kicks in boxing are illegal, you tool.

[Shatter]

I watched a Darkfall live video last night and it was 5 minutes of 3-5 guys on a boat floating around...yeah...fun...good times :P

[Falconeer]

His point was any kicks in boxing are illegal, you tool.

Ouch! 

[Draegan]

His point was any kicks in boxing are illegal, you tool.

Ouch! 

Thats what you get for responding to something DLRiley said.

[Falconeer]

He's so right! Signe I need a proper smiley, now!

[Signe]

[tmp]

Darkfall Purge

the rhetorics in announcement ia just

[sidereal]

Why does every press release from The Darkfall Team read like they watched Rocky III and Red Dawn just before crafting it?  Trying to sound all tough in official communications makes you sound like a putz, not tough.  Ban them, say you banned them, and otherwise shut the fuck up and make your game.

[rattran]

Why does every press release from The Darkfall Team read like they watched Rocky III and Red Dawn just before crafting it?  Trying to sound all tough in official communications makes you sound like a putz, not tough.  Ban them, say you banned them, and otherwise shut the fuck up and make your game.

Because they are putzes and internet tough guys?

[ashrik]

Why does every press release from The Darkfall Team read like they watched Rocky III and Red Dawn just before crafting it?  Trying to sound all tough in official communications makes you sound like a putz, not tough.  Ban them, say you banned them, and otherwise shut the fuck up and make your game.

Because a fucking company is at steak

[DLRiley]

Why does every press release from The Darkfall Team read like they watched Rocky III and Red Dawn just before crafting it?  Trying to sound all tough in official communications makes you sound like a putz, not tough.  Ban them, say you banned them, and otherwise shut the fuck up and make your game.

When your playerbase is composed of meat heads and 13 year old boys you sorta have to sound like you just got done fucking another man in the ass and was the big guy in prison with the 20 tattoos about it.

[gryeyes]

Ban them, say you banned them, and otherwise shut the fuck up and make your game.

Just the tone of that message makes it rampantly clear there is no "automatic detection" and they were banned from casual observation (if that). They warned these specific people multiple times that using 3rd party programs to hack a game was wrong? Who the fuck would "warn" these people if that was the situation.

So now we expect a couple of hundred people to take to the boards. Threads along these lines will be removed and posters will be banned. Darkfall Support has been instructed to not provide more than the automated ban message. Do not side with these people just because you may have played with them and didn’t happen to observe them cheating.

We are going to lock down the topic so any potential mistakes on our part are not public. Dont listen to them they are lying cheaters social sciences says so! 

[Threash]

Ban them, say you banned them, and otherwise shut the fuck up and make your game.

Just the tone of that message makes it rampantly clear there is no "automatic detection" and they were banned from casual observation (if that). They warned these specific people multiple times that using 3rd party programs to hack a game was wrong? Who the fuck would "warn" these people if that was the situation.

The warnings were general "if you cheat we will catch cause we log everything and our programers are busy reading the logs rather than making a decent game", not to specific people.

[patience]

Why does every press release from The Darkfall Team read like they watched Rocky III and Red Dawn just before crafting it?  Trying to sound all tough in official communications makes you sound like a putz, not tough.  Ban them, say you banned them, and otherwise shut the fuck up and make your game.

It's called corporate culture.

"Hello, This is to inform you that your Darkfall account has been suspended for use of 3rd party cheats. We're afraid this is a permanent ban because we've confirmed your account using such exploits. This activity is strictly forbidden by the Terms of Service which you have agreed to and there have been several announcements about our policy reminding users of the possible consequences.

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/sho...d.php?t=150640

When an account is banned it is verified beyond a shadow of a doubt that exploitation is taking place. We do not rely on player or GM reports or on hear say. You were detected, and also verified cheating. You are responsible for canceling your subscription. To cancel your subscription you need to go to the account management page:

https://www.darkfallonline.com/accounts/f/default.php

Remove your credit information by clicking on the link right on top of your billing information. Then go to the products page where you should cancel all active subscriptions if there are any. We cannot discuss this matter with you beyond this notice. Darkfall support will only respond to your requests with automated messages. There is no appeals process.

Thank you,Darkfall Support"

I seriously think the last line should've read:

"Fuck you, sincerely, Darkfall Support"

[kildorn]

Wait wait, they're so hardcore that when they ban you, YOU need to go cancel your sub or they'll keep billing you?

That's amazing, and probably illegal <3

[Delmania]

So there's no appeals process and they will keep taking you money but denying you service?  Wow, I wonder what laws in Greece allow that.

[HaemishM]

Wait wait, they're so hardcore that when they ban you, YOU need to go cancel your sub or they'll keep billing you?

That's amazing, and probably illegal <3

Only pussy carebears cancel their subscriptions to MMOG's they've been banned from playing.

[chargerrich]

Because a fucking company is at steak

did someone say steak? /gets out knife

mmmmmmmm

[IainC]

Because a fucking company is at steak

did someone say steak? /gets out knife

mmmmmmmm

MMO history fail.

[rattran]

Because a fucking company is at steak

did someone say steak? /gets out knife

mmmmmmmm

MMO history fail.

MMO history fail sums up Darkfall (Dawnfall) pretty well.