Darkfall "Released"

[Rake]

I want to be a Volunteer too.

One born every minute

[nizar]

Been trying to do this between the PR- gate camp but dear God... the client/server lag, loot lag, and mob lag is unbearable and I have a feeling I could just sell the account and it would be better worth the trouble I've been having in trying to play.

[LC]

My favorite quote from the brannoc log:

01:53 <@Brannoc> I think limited release sales when you're releasing your first ever game is a fairly smart thing to do tbh
01:53 <@Brannoc> who wants the servers to be down all day on launch day?

[Xurtan]

The Stratics IRC server irc.stratics.com has numerous channels available for chatting about the game and the ongoing issues. The #Darkfall channel is currently moderated to prevent chatting so we may use it as an update method, however there are several other open channels such as #dfchat and #darkfall-tmp. The forums will remain closed until the game is fully available so that we may use this front page as a reliable update method as well.

The hell? Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Shut down the forums so you can use the front page as a news reel, instead of, oh.. I don't know, the news forum?

[Venkman]

No, to prevent Stratics from being run down into VN land of rants and raves. If you doubt the need for this, you merely need to look at the WAR forum here in the Gaming Graveyard to see what the first few weeks were like (or was that days)?

Not logging in sucks. We all know and have all been there. It's not worth discussing. But in the absence of being able to log in, all one can do is discuss it. And those discussions suck worse than not being able to log in 

[Xurtan]

Hm, apparently they just removed that message. Don your tin foil hats kids. 

I just miss the official forums because they were so amusing. There really isn't a DF place where a lot of people post, like WHA is for WAR. I figured they had the forums down because they didn't want to spare the man power to try to control the whining masses, heh.

[Ghambit]

You all should just quit DF and play Empire: Total War with me next Tuesday...

[tmp]

This little gem courtesy of mmorpg.com forums:

You are gonna have to step your game up if you wanna play with the big boys. It wasn't exploiting. It was what was given to us on day one. My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

Most guilds simply aren't gonna cut it. The cries of your misery will only get worse as you realize this isn't WOW and it definately isn't forgiving.

The true PvP game -- where we farm static mobs for 16 hours straight.

QQ you WoW carebears.

[Xurtan]

MMORPG.com?! What is this horror that you have unleashed? 

In other news, Darkfall came up for all of 22 minutes, before they shut it back down for apparent account login issues.

[DLRiley]

This little gem courtesy of mmorpg.com forums:

You are gonna have to step your game up if you wanna play with the big boys. It wasn't exploiting. It was what was given to us on day one. My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

Most guilds simply aren't gonna cut it. The cries of your misery will only get worse as you realize this isn't WOW and it definately isn't forgiving.

The true PvP game -- where we farm static mobs for 16 hours straight.

QQ you WoW carebears.

When a game grinds your dick into the ground you can only look up and scream "HARDCORE!!!!!!!!!!" at the top of your lungs in the hopes your screams of agony will attract the rest of the zombies target audience.

[Mavor]

 Does anyone else see an inherent flaw with making a game targeted towards the gamer crowd that needs masses of n00bs to feed their playtime?

 What I mean is, once all of the n00bs filter out of the game back to WOW, because let's face it, getting steamrolled by PK groups that have been playing since alpha is not actually fun for the n00b, then the only players left are going to be those same gankers. And then the playing field will be leveled.

 But gankers don't play because they want to play on a level field with their opponents. They play because they have fun having the odds stacked in their favor. Therefor, I forsee the game running itself slowly into the ground.

[Nebu]

... gankers don't play because they want to play on a level field with their opponents. They play because they have fun having the odds stacked in their favor. Therefor, I forsee the game running itself slowly into the ground.

I tend to agree but a small subset will stay because fighting challenging groups is fun.  The longevity of this game will depend on the mechanics.  DAoC lived a long time once many of the noobs had left.  The key was a) allowing for many playstyles and b) keeping the reroll cost low.

[tazelbain]

Does anyone else see an inherent flaw with making a game targeted towards the gamer crowd that needs masses of n00bs to feed their playtime?

We have discussed it a billion times.  Welcome to the board.

[Nebu]

We have discussed it a billion times.  Welcome to the board.

I stand corrected.  My answer wasn't HARDCORE enough for a Darkfall thread. 

[peryn]

Why are people patting Adventurine on the back for launching the game? You can't actually purchase a copy right now, and the only people playing are the ones who ordered a pre-order. This is nothing more than a paid stress test.

[tazelbain]

We have discussed it a billion times.  Welcome to the board.

I stand corrected.  My answer wasn't HARDCORE enough for a Darkfall thread. 

You are completely out in left field if you are try to compare player behavior on DAoC non-Mordred servers with Open PvP.  Mordred itself is a great example on wolves chasing off all the sheep until wolves consume each until no one is playing.

[Nebu]

I guess I am in left field.  Mordred was full of noobs and had a decent churn.  People left Mordred (and Andred where I played) not because of the wolves, but because there was more fun to be had elsewhere.

[patience]

We have discussed it a billion times.  Welcome to the board.

I stand corrected.  My answer wasn't HARDCORE enough for a Darkfall thread. 

THis isn't a darkfall thread. No one here is that hardcore. If they were they would simply say the new fad I'm seeing in the forums right now.

/ go back to WOW

 

[tmp]

Looks the official Darkfall forums are back up.

[Azaroth]

Look, I can still apply for beta.

[Mrbloodworth]

Looks the official Darkfall forums are back up.

Good lord, its like all the crazy people of the wold have their home page set there.

Current topics:

• Are they going to add more animals to the world
• So whats the deal with macroing/botting
• Suggestion: Shut the fuck up with your complaints!
• Poll: Petition: WIPE THE SERVER
• Darkfall vs Asherons Call
• Help lobby crashing

Some people are saying the graphics are better than AOC 

[gryeyes]

Communal reinforcement can be an extremely powerful thing.

[UnSub]

I actually do wonder if DF is going to have a post launch server wipe to deal with some of the early exploits. Adventurine have it in them, I'm sure of it.

[calapine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFbg7ydDDc Darkfall behind the scenes!

Stolen right from the Darkfall forums! huhuh! 

[Modern Angel]

I hope they last a very long time. It means the community on other MMOs just went up incrementally.

[raydeen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFbg7ydDDc Darkfall behind the scenes!

Stolen right from the Darkfall forums! huhuh! 

Video removed. Synopsis?

[Hindenburg]

A sequence of very boring facts using garry's mod. Says that adventurine is run by imbeciles.

[peryn]

It's back up here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzliuis2zoQ

[ashrik]

People left Mordred (and Andred where I played) not because of the wolves, but because there was more fun to be had elsewhere.

Is that not the point of what was being said?

[Nebu]

Is that not the point of what was being said?

Not exactly.

[ashrik]

Well, was there more fun to be had in a different game or more fun to be had in a different server which, by chance, didn't attract the wolves?

[Nebu]

Well, was there more fun to be had in a different game or more fun to be had in a different server which, by chance, didn't attract the wolves?

People left Mordred to go to another server to find better wolves.  They weren't running from the rules or the players.  They were actively seeking better competition within the same game.

DAoC was an odd example because the best pvp players never stayed on Mordred long because the competition there was poor.  I myself am a decent (not great player) that played many times on Mordred alone and with my guild.  It was stupid easy to gain rps there to the point that it got boring.  We left to find better competition, not to farm noobs. 

[Mrbloodworth]

Darkfall Hands-On Preview: The Rise of the Ninja (Looter)

Great read. 

I mentioned how I'm not really in favor of being able to loot players, but I understood the concept and was willing to give it a try. I'm proud to report that no player has managed to kill me yet (though a few have tried) so I haven't had my body looted. Instead, what these players will do is wait for you to get jumped by more than one mob, then loot the tombstones (mobs become tombstones instead of corpses) while you're fighting for your life. This is old school EverQuest ninja-looting brought back tenfold. I can’t count the amount of times this happened to me.

While I'm thinking of it, there's something else you should probably be aware of as well. Just in case, for some unimaginable reason, you were planning on allowing your teenager to play this game... there is no filter. I don't mean there's no filter in the chat channels, I mean there doesn't appear to be a filter with the naming system either. A sizable number of the players I ran across had names that I quite literally cannot type here and still keep things teen friendly.

You know how people like creating various drinking games based around the concept of a phrase or action being repeated? I strongly encourage you to resist this urge when it comes to Darkfall. If you had to take a shot every time someone said newb, carebear, gay, or a smorgasbord of other words I simply won't repeat here, you would be dead from alcohol poisoning in less than an hour.

what I experienced in the world is still the worst example of an online community I've ever encountered, without question.

[Surlyboi]

Maybe it'll take less than six months to devolve.

[Signe]

Oh, I can't imagine that this will last six whole months.  I bet Bonedancer and the rest will have long since finished with this game by then, too.  It doesn't seem like it's going to have much last-i-ness.