Darkfall "Released"

[peryn]

Hold on. I'm invalidating your theory.



P.S. It's Vanguard.

[Signe]

Hold on. I'm invalidating your theory.

You did!  HA!

[FatuousTwat]

You can sit in chairs in DAOC, and NWN1, my 2 favourite games... Holy shit.

[tmp]

The point is simply that, as I said, real games figured out that letting you get curbstomped by enemies with no chance to react was lame right away and designed around it. MMO designers haven't done anything of the sort, by any mechanic.

I'd say the designers of the "real games" did as little to protect from that particular issue as the MMO designers did.

(usually) the "real games" do what they do because when you hit the opponent it interrupts their move, making it theoretically possible to keep landing hits while never receiving as much as a smack in return. Something that simply doesn't happen in MMO where getting hit by someone does not prevent you from hitting them back (if you don't bring some ridiculous CC into the mix, but against that the MMOs do take precautions)

There is of course a separate issue here that happens when number of opponents you have to face leads to you taking so much damage it's unlikely you'll beat them all or maybe even one. Or maybe you'll explode even before you manage to hit just once yourself. *but* i'd argue here that this particular issue doesn't happen in "real games" simply because then never really put you in such situation in the first place (as long as we are talking fights where opponents have comparable endurance, not a typical "player vs a number of weak NPCs" scenario) If such situation did happen in "real game" it'd end with your rear orifice getting penetrated just as surely, and with the whole thing feeling equally futile as it feels in the MMOs. It'd just come through mechanics like being unable to defend yourself from attacks coming at once from multiple directions, while each individuall opponent can easily block your own attacks aimed at them... something these "real games" never really design around.

[K9]

so... how many days do we have left until the hilarity commences?

[sidereal]

Eve has neither sitting in chairs nor dancing.  I think you can make your ship sit on an asteroid, though.

[ashrik]

so... how many days do we have left until the hilarity commences?

11 more till the bomb drops.

Jan 22nd- marked on the calender!

[tmp]

Eve has neither sitting in chairs nor dancing.

They are developing an expansion to address that, tho'.

[WindupAtheist]

bla bla bla

Do I literally have to sit here and recite a list of games that involved a shitload of projectiles flying at the player simultaneously, where it would have been possible to sustain massive amounts of damage near-instantly were it not for that second of invincibility received when struck? Or are you going to shut the fuck up anytime soon?

[UnSub]

Eve has neither sitting in chairs nor dancing.  I think you can make your ship sit on an asteroid, though.

But you get to RP sitting in your ship 24/7. It's hardcore sitting.

[tmp]

Do I literally have to sit here and recite a list of games that involved a shitload of projectiles flying at the player simultaneously, where it would have been possible to sustain massive amounts of damage near-instantly were it not for that second of invincibility received when struck? Or are you going to shut the fuck up anytime soon?

By all means; just please, leave out the games where the source of said projectiles were virtual PvE foozles rather than other players, k?

[ashrik]

Sometimes it's nice to be able to be in the game world and enjoy yourself while not really doing much of anything.

I couldn't even begin to count how many hours I've spent in WoW either RP walking, or drinking in taverns, or hell- just dancing in Orgrimmar. And yes, sitting.

Oh the glorious sitting. From chairs to thrones and everything in between.

[Senses]

Along the lines of sitting, I can't stand games where mounts won't rear up on their hind legs when pressing the jump button.  Not sure why, but it is terribly annoying just sitting still on a mount.

[Sophismata]

I've only ever seen mounts done right once in a videogame. Most of the time, they feel awkward and are animated terribly. Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess come close, but Shadow of the Colossus got it right.

The mount animations and whatnot were terrible in WAR, but I found the inability to sit far more annoying.

[FatuousTwat]

I've only ever seen mounts done right once in a videogame. Most of the time, they feel awkward and are animated terribly. Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess come close, but Shadow of the Colossus got it right.

The mount animations and whatnot were terrible in WAR, but I found the inability to sit far more annoying.

Ever play Mount&Blade? The base game does them well, and some of the mods are glorious.

[WindupAtheist]

By all means; just please, leave out the games where the source of said projectiles were virtual PvE foozles rather than other players, k?

Suck my cock, you smarmy little cunt. Given that my drawing allusions to single-player console games was the entire genesis of this tangent, that's a fucking stupid thing to say and you damn well know it. What's more, as far as I can tell from that vague, rambling, haphazard block of dipshit text you felched into the thread a few posts ago, your entire point can be reduced to "You will still get your ass kicked badly if outnumbered by opponents as powerful as you."

No fucking shit, you humpbacked moron. The point of nerfing insta-gibbing in MMO combat isn't to let one person win, or even escape, when grossly outmatched ten-on-one or whatever. It's simply to make the asskicking take longer so that the victim can possibly be aided by their friends, and to discourage piling ten guys onto one in the first place during group-on-group battles.

Jesus, shut the fuck up already and quit pretending you even know what the hell is being talked about.

[Xuri]

Hold on. I'm invalidating your theory.

<imagine image of vanguard here>

P.S. It's Vanguard.

Vanguard was an anamu..anoni...anome....Vanguard was an accident, a deviation from the rule. The rule even applies to non-MMOGs. Could your characters sit in The Sims? YES. Point proven.

[peryn]

I can't accept the truth 

Whatever. Sitting in chairs is so last-gen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnpE0bOwH4

Can you chair-glide in your MMO? I didn't think so.

[tmp]

Given that my drawing allusions to single-player console games was the entire genesis of this tangent

And you still don't get that it makes your whole allusion in the first place as moronic as this outburst?

Srsly, "LOOK A SINGLE PLAYER GAME DID SOMETHING MULTIPLAYER GAMES DON'T DO, THAT MAKES IT A REAL GAME. CUNTS". No really, a profound insight there.

[DLRiley]

Given that my drawing allusions to single-player console games was the entire genesis of this tangent

And you still don't get that it makes your whole allusion in the first place as moronic as this outburst?

Srsly, "LOOK A SINGLE PLAYER GAME DID SOMETHING MULTIPLAYER GAMES DON'T DO, THAT MAKES IT A REAL GAME. CUNTS". No really, a profound insight there.

I'm sorry his point was something along the lines of "MOST CONSOLE GAMES HAVE MORE INTUITIVE/INTELLIGENT DESIGN THEN MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAMES DO AND THUS AS PROVEN MANY TIMES OVER MASSIVE MULTIPLAY ONLINE GAMES ARE THE HORSE SHIT OF THE GAMING WORLD."

[Xuri]

In other news, Darkfall won MMORPG.com's "Most Anticipated Game of 2008"-award today, with a whopping 31.5% of the votes. 

[Nebu]

In other news, Darkfall won MMORPG.com's "Most Anticipated Game of 2008"-award today, with a whopping 31.5% of the votes. 

Anyone find it odd that WotLK, WAR, Mines of Moria, and AoC weren't on that list? I can understand the omission of the expansions given the title, but WAR and AoC not on the list at all?

[Xuri]

I guess it's only games that are still being anticipated? *shrug*

[Nebu]

I guess it's only games that are still being anticipated? *shrug*

Not including all MMO's released in 2008 makes the list pretty suspect... though coming from mmorpg.com already renders it pretty damn questionable. 

[Lantyssa]

Not including all MMO's released in 2008 makes the list pretty suspect... though coming from mmorpg.com already renders it pretty damn questionable. 

Well, having a winner that didn't come out in 2008 pretty much invalidates the results anyways.

[Nebu]

Well, having a winner that didn't come out in 2008 pretty much invalidates the results anyways.

It can be anticipated without being released... right?  Still, I get your point. 

I'm just thinking that they need to include all MMO's in development during 2008.  This would include WAR and AoC.

[IainC]

I get the feeling that this should have been the 'most anticipated game for 2009' becasue, as far as I can see, none of those games are released yet. So the award is for the game that people in 2008 are anticipating for 2009. It makes no sense otherwise (yeah I know MMORPG.co...) to have a 'most anticipated..' award that is voted on at the end of the year.

[Mrbloodworth]

In other news, Darkfall won MMORPG.com's "Most Anticipated Game of 2008"-award today, with a whopping 31.5% of the votes. 

Anyone find it odd that WotLK, WAR, Mines of Moria, and AoC weren't on that list? I can understand the omission of the expansions given the title, but WAR and AoC not on the list at all?

Nope. Because those games were released in 2008, technically this award was for what game is most anticipated in 2008. As in what game do you look forward to. I guess it would have been better worded 2009 +.

LOTRO won best expansion, and best Development studio for 2008.

[rask]

Is it wrong to feel sullied because this game is supposed to release on my birthday? Also, fuck you Heath Ledger.

[ashrik]

They should have renamed it 2008 Reader's Choice Awards - Most Bored and Active Forum Community of 2008.

Darkfall was halfway down a list of 20 until a pretty overt multi-voting campaign started on the message board about 3 days ago.

I wonder which of those other games are stuffed with people who have an almost psychological need to prove their existence and superiority to the rest of the world.

Maybe it is the most anticipated, I just don't see it as being anything other than a product close to release.

[UnSub]

It will just make the tears from MMORPG.com all the sweeter.

[Falwell]

What do you get when the communities for MMORPG and Darkfall collide?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218994/page/1

A now 5 page thread discussing the new cool white border on the Darkfall site.

[UnSub]

It's now 13 pages.

[ashrik]

Polarization only makes sarcastic posts. It's sort of a dig

Acesnsion08 uses green text for being special, not for sarcasm

WHYDOIKNOWTHIIIIIIISSSSS

[ezrast]

Looks like five to me. I think it just paginates inconsistently.