Scarlett Johannson engaged to Van Wilder

[Bunk]

Waiting... was a great movie, even if it starred the Mac guy. What movie isn't made better by Luis Guzman flashing his genetalia at you?

Anyways, here's to a local boy doing good for himself. (we need a smiley doing a beer mug toast)

[Riggswolfe]

Isn't she the woman who is famous for saying she doesn't believe in monogamy? Ole Van Wilder must be built in more places than just his chest.

Honestly, I think she's good looking but her personality turns me off.

[WayAbvPar]

I absolutely love her look, then again,. im in love with the 20's and 30's.

I would kill all of you for her. Twice.

I'm sure if you kill everyone on your nerdy gaming board, it'll make her really, really want you. 

I am in love with the high 30s, preferably of the DD type 

[Phildo]

Personally, I think her career peaked with Eight Legged Freaks.

[Signe]

[schild]

I think her career peaked with her chest.

Fuck, that woman is hot.

[Bandit]

Waiting... was a great movie, even if it starred the Mac guy. What movie isn't made better by Luis Guzman flashing his genetalia at you?

From Wikipedia.....all I could remember was the Bat-Wing

The objective of the game is to get a victim to look at the player's genitals and accuse them of being a homosexual by calling them a faggot, followed by a firm kick, or series of kicks depending on the position performed, to the buttocks. The player must call the victim a faggot or the game loses its whole meaning.

In the movie, Raddimus explains that there are several positions with different difficulty levels. As the difficulty level rises so does the number of kicks a player can give his victim. The positions are as follows:

   1. The Log: The player plainly pulls down his pants, allowing time for his victim to appreciate it, then pulls his pants back up. Punishment = 1 kick.
   2. The Brain: The player isolates his testicles with his fist, forcing them forward against the skin to resemble a brain. Punishment = 2 kicks.
   3. The Bat Wing: The player takes the excess skin of his scrotum and stretches it out until it is flat like paper. This exposes some veins and has a slight resemblance to a bat wing; ideally the skin should be taut enough that the testicles are imperceptible underneath. Punishment = 3 kicks.
   4. Abe Lincoln: The player shaves their testicle hair to look like a beard or it does not count. Punishment = Never established
   5. The Goat: One of the more difficult moves of The Game. The player palms his penis into his hand and stretches it behind him so it is visible from the cavity beneath his buttocks. Punishment = Never established.

[caladein]

The above two replies didn't really need to follow each other, did they? (I'd add appropriately horrified smilies, but posting from my phone...)

[dusematic]

Possible, but Wylder has three times as much muscle as Lee did, which makes it much, much more difficult. 

Not really. Whether you're working lean or for bulk, you're working hard either way. The difference isn't in commitment or time invested, but what kind of exercises and weights one's using. Lee did it out of choice anyhow. He did get to 150 or something once, but cut down since he thought it took him off his game. He was shooting for the right balance of power and speed. The only thing he always left remaining bulky were his laterals though (example). Now that shit is hard to do. That Van Wilder guy isn't even close. Hardly anyone is. Especially guys as small Bruce Lee was. Most people who get that big in that area are bodybuilders. That's what kind of discipline he had.

Actually that's a common misconception that people who don't train seriously often have.  Muscle mass is muscle mass.  Someone who is very "cut" simply has a very low percentage of body fat, which stretches the skin tautly over the muscle, creating definition.  Ergo, there are no special exercises or weights one needs to do in order get cut versus to bulk up.  Bulking up is usually harder and more time consuming than acquiring definition for most people, although predispositions can exist for any phenotype.  For example, a kid who plays soccer in highschool runs around during practice a lot, but probably doesn't hit the weight room.  He will not be very strong, nor have much muscle mass, but he will probably be fairly cut.  The reason it is so hard to be both huge and ripped, is because the volume of food necessary to bulk up to Batman level proportions is staggering.  Bodybuilders eat upwards of 400 grams of protein a day.  That's a fuckload og protein incidentally, and is extremely hard to do, even with whey protein powder shakes.  Eating that much facilitates optimal muscle growth, but also fat accumulation.  This is why serious weight trainers undergo feast/famine cycles.  The bulk cycle is followed by a cut cycle.  Rinse and repeat.


Edit:  The reason why Lee's lats are so monstrous in comparison with the rest of him is because he didn't do any weight training. He did do a fuckload of push-ups and pull-ups though.  Pull-ups are the best overall back exercise you can do, and are essentially the squat of the upper body.

[LK]

Ryan Reynolds.

Shit, I can't believe the thread got this long without the name of who you are talking about.  Every performance I've seen of Reynolds has been memorable.  He wasn't just Van Wilder.  That's just his first big role people know him for.

Oh, and the Mac guy is Justin Long.

[Margalis]

I like that oxblood jacket he's wearing in the pic with Alanis. I've been looking for one like that for a while.

[Selby]

From Wikipedia.....all I could remember was the Bat-Wing

I can't believe there are rules and punishments for meat gazers...  That's the internet for you!

[stray]

Possible, but Wylder has three times as much muscle as Lee did, which makes it much, much more difficult. 

Not really. Whether you're working lean or for bulk, you're working hard either way. The difference isn't in commitment or time invested, but what kind of exercises and weights one's using. Lee did it out of choice anyhow. He did get to 150 or something once, but cut down since he thought it took him off his game. He was shooting for the right balance of power and speed. The only thing he always left remaining bulky were his laterals though (example). Now that shit is hard to do. That Van Wilder guy isn't even close. Hardly anyone is. Especially guys as small Bruce Lee was. Most people who get that big in that area are bodybuilders. That's what kind of discipline he had.

Actually that's a common misconception that people who don't train seriously often have.  Muscle mass is muscle mass.  Someone who is very "cut" simply has a very low percentage of body fat, which stretches the skin tautly over the muscle, creating definition.  Ergo, there are no special exercises or weights one needs to do in order get cut versus to bulk up.  Bulking up is usually harder and more time consuming than acquiring definition for most people, although predispositions can exist for any phenotype.  For example, a kid who plays soccer in highschool runs around during practice a lot, but probably doesn't hit the weight room.  He will not be very strong, nor have much muscle mass, but he will probably be fairly cut.  The reason it is so hard to be both huge and ripped, is because the volume of food necessary to bulk up to Batman level proportions is staggering.  Bodybuilders eat upwards of 400 grams of protein a day.  That's a fuckload og protein incidentally, and is extremely hard to do, even with whey protein powder shakes.  Eating that much facilitates optimal muscle growth, but also fat accumulation.  This is why serious weight trainers undergo feast/famine cycles.  The bulk cycle is followed by a cut cycle.  Rinse and repeat.


Edit:  The reason why Lee's lats are so monstrous in comparison with the rest of him is because he didn't do any weight training. He did do a fuckload of push-ups and pull-ups though.  Pull-ups are the best overall back exercise you can do, and are essentially the squat of the upper body.

Huh? He did a fair share of weight training. Why are you saying he did none? He writes about every aspect of his physical training, weights included, especially early on. If any of his books were online, I'd point them out, but this article delves into a little of bit of his training info. The rest of him isn't necessarily that small either. His entire abdominal area is almost as impressive. He also had unusually long arms for a short guy, so take that into account.

I was actually wrong about the 150 weight though. He got to 165 at one point (at 5'7").

And I don't have misconceptions. You aren't just going to get cut by reducing body fat. You'll just end up looking like Bale from the Machinist doing that. You still need lean muscle. That could be gained by various exercises, sure, but you still need to enrich your diet with protein, and most people include light, but highly repetitive weight training to gain lean. Not saying that's as hard as what bodybuilders do though. I was saying that martial artists like what Lee did is harder than what actors do. They have restrictive diets all the same, they incorporate weight training, and more importantly, they incorporate strength training. An actor (and most average joes with a good physique) are fairly superficial and have easier to accomplish goals (which comes down to looking good).

[Margalis]

Bale didn't just lose fat, he lost muscle mass.

[stray]

Lol, damnit... I edited that post a few times trying to cover everything I wanted to say... But there's always something I'll get snagged on at f13..

Yes, yes, you're correct. His body basically started feeding on itself. I'm exagerrating a bit. My point though was basically when a person starts at square one, they aren't going to have much muscle at all. Losing body fat isn't going to magically make them look like Bruce Lee. That's silly. Like I've said already -- lean muscle mass. It's still something that needs to be worked on. It isn't "just there" hiding behind all of that fat.

[dusematic]

True, my main point was that you can do a shitload of low weight high rep exercises, or you can do high weight low rep exercises, and both will bulk you up.  The former is called german volume training.  Essentially your body is doing the same work, just in different configurations.  I was actually just speculating about Lee, sorry for talking out of my ass a little.  I was simply working under the notion that flexibility and endurance would be more important than brute strength for that discipline, and therefore a significant amount of weight training would not be optimal..  Bulky muscles restrict range of motion.  And while I understand your point about Bale, I wasn't suggesting one would look their best by avoiding weights and just doing cardio.  Yes, Bale essentially starved himself, he was clearly malnourished.  But a person with normal levels of muscle mass and very little body fat would look "toned." 

[stray]

Fair enough. 

[Ookii]

I wanted to post this in the thread but it's mildy NSFW.

[Phildo]

Clip from Eight Legged Freaks, yes?

[WayAbvPar]

I wanted to post this in the thread but it's mildy NSFW.

Golly she is swell.

[Morat20]

Lol, damnit... I edited that post a few times trying to cover everything I wanted to say... But there's always something I'll get snagged on at f13..

Yes, yes, you're correct. His body basically started feeding on itself. I'm exagerrating a bit. My point though was basically when a person starts at square one, they aren't going to have much muscle at all. Losing body fat isn't going to magically make them look like Bruce Lee. That's silly. Like I've said already -- lean muscle mass. It's still something that needs to be worked on. It isn't "just there" hiding behind all of that fat.

So, here's a question -- say you have a great deal of bulk muscle in one area and want to replace it with leaner muscle (basically "unbulk"). How do you go about that?

Speaking for myself, I have outrageous amounts of leg muscle -- calfs and thighs -- from years and years of swimming, and something of a genetic predisposition to bulky leg muscles. It makes finding boots that fit a pain in the ass. I was thinking of taking up running.

[stray]

If you're genetically predisposed (are you a german female? lol), then not much to stop that, I think..

Seriously though, I'm surprised that swimming would do that. It, along with running, would produce lean muscle. Are you sure that there may not just be some overlying fat there? If so, then just slimming your diet and burning fat could make a difference in the bulkiness.

[edit] If it is muscle bulk though, I'm not sure if there's even a way to go about that. You can easily reduce muscle as a whole (i.e your entire body) by just letting them atrophy (not good), but I'm not sure about "spot" reducing. If you were to go about losing everything in a fairly healthy way (as opposed to just being lazy), you'd have to expend enough energy to the point where your body starts fueling itself on it's own muscle. Eat less calories, less protein, and still try to expend whatever energy you have through cardio and/or light weighting training. Once you got your legs to how you want, then you could go back to rebuilding the rest of your body to where it was. Haha. This isn't exactly what you're asking for though.

[Llava]

I wanted to post this in the thread but it's mildy NSFW.

Wow. She looks smart.

[Morat20]

If you're genetically predisposed (are you a german female? lol), then not much to stop that, I think..

German heritage all the way through. In junior high, they had that damn "You should be able to bench your own weight and leg-lift twice your own weight" test. I couldn't bench half my weight, but I could leg lift (or press or whatever the hell it was) almost three times my weight. I could do twice my weight with my calves alone, and it wasn't exactly straining me to do so.

Seriously though, I'm surprised that swimming would do that. It, along with running, would produce lean muscle. Are you sure that there may not just be some overlying fat there? If so, then just slimming your diet and burning fat could make a difference in the bulkiness.

Blaming swimming rather than genetics might be wrong. :) There is underlying fat -- I've been getting rid of that slowly (20% weight loss in two years. Go me!), but I really do have way to much bulk on the thighs and calves. I think running or biking (and raquetball -- love raquetball) is about all I can really try. They'll promote lean muscle and body fat loss anyways, so it can't hurt.

[HaemishM]

I wanted to post this in the thread but it's mildy NSFW.

Wow. She looks smart.

If I had known that was in Eight-Legged Freaks, I'd have watched it before. Now I don't need to.

Or do I?

[Ookii]

I wanted to post this in the thread but it's mildy NSFW.

Wow. She looks smart.

If I had known that was in Eight-Legged Freaks, I'd have watched it before. Now I don't need to.

Or do I?

Alas it's from 'A Love Song for Bobby', still no real reason to watch Eight Legged Freaks.

[Phildo]

Sorry, I get my "Scarlet Johannson in a towel" movies confused.

[Morat20]

Sorry, I get my "Scarlet Johannson in a towel" movies confused.

You should make a slideshow. And then post it, so we can all keep it straight.

[voodoolily]

Complaints on bulk

Take up pilates or yoga to get lean and toned.

[Riggswolfe]

That's the first time I ever thought she looked hot to be honest. I think it's the red hair vs blond.

[Morat20]

Take up pilates or yoga to get lean and toned.

My wife's been wanting to do Yoga, AND bitching I never do anything with her. Thanks. I hated to derail a thread, but it appeared there was some semi-knowledgeable people here and "How do I LOSE muscle mass" isn't really one of those common questions on the internet.

Seriously, it sucks finding ski boots that fit.

[Nebu]

Many many ways to lose muscle mass.  Make a separate thread or shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help.

[Morat20]

Many many ways to lose muscle mass.  Make a separate thread or shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help.

I'm good with going back to talking about Scarlett's rack.

[shiznitz]

[dusematic]

Lol, damnit... I edited that post a few times trying to cover everything I wanted to say... But there's always something I'll get snagged on at f13..

Yes, yes, you're correct. His body basically started feeding on itself. I'm exagerrating a bit. My point though was basically when a person starts at square one, they aren't going to have much muscle at all. Losing body fat isn't going to magically make them look like Bruce Lee. That's silly. Like I've said already -- lean muscle mass. It's still something that needs to be worked on. It isn't "just there" hiding behind all of that fat.

So, here's a question -- say you have a great deal of bulk muscle in one area and want to replace it with leaner muscle (basically "unbulk"). How do you go about that?

Speaking for myself, I have outrageous amounts of leg muscle -- calfs and thighs -- from years and years of swimming, and something of a genetic predisposition to bulky leg muscles. It makes finding boots that fit a pain in the ass. I was thinking of taking up running.

There's really nothing you can do.  It's called "old man strength."  Especially if you're athletic, as you mature, most men get thicker.  Look at the legs of professional skiers over 30.  You should be happy you don't have skinny toothpick legs.  If you lose weight, your whole body will slim down, but if your legs are bigger in proportion, they will stay relatively the same size in proportion.  There's no way to target weight loss in a specific part of the body. 


Edit:  There's no such thing as "lean" muscle.  There's just muscle.  If you're super desperate, you could just become wheelchair bound until your legs waste away Stephen Hawking style.