White Wolf MMoG?

[Nevermore]

Werewolf will be the first expansion, at which point CCP will be accused of 'going furry'.

[patience]

I think you people are confusing what a table top is with what an mmo is.  Anyone who things they are going to wholesale implement rules/strategies or any other such nonsense from the sourcebooks directly into this game are delusional.  Mages will probably be in the game, so will werwolves and as pc's why? because people want to play them.  Rules? What rules?! They are just going to take the names of ab ilities and slap them on to tried and true mmo tropes such as...

1.heal
2.taunt
3.nuke

While you are correct to say CCP won't adhere to the WoD rulesets you are off base to imply they'll follow normal MMO presets.

Their attempts at doing so with EVE pve have been laughable so far.

We should expect something different even if CCP didn't initially envision what they are going to end up with.

[Hoax]

The fact that this is being made by the crazies in Iceland is what should have people excited as patience says. Anything could fucking happen but its bound to be a mess at launch and have really cool original ideas sprinkled throughout.

[Modern Angel]

Yeah, my concerns are solely with where they seem to be going as far as business model, costs and such. I want WW to keep making books. They will not be doing so if this costs too much and then bombs. I'm all for some original ideas, even if they're not things I'm personally interested in playing with.

[tmp]

Is it necro when it's a game about vampires?

Anyway, CCP is showing a bit of game footage during EVEfest: http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/24/ccp-shows-world-of-darkness-footage-during-eve-fanfest/

difficult to say if that's pre-rendered or actual in-engine stuff.

There's also some info about planned perma death:

CCP also has plans in place to allow the community to elect other players as “Prince of the City,” with each real-world location such as New York and London having elected leaders on a single-server system. The Prince of a City will be handed the power to permanently kill players, but other forms of permadeath won’t be as widespread as on the tabletop game

given typical playerbase spread, that's effectively handing the goons keys to the city, isn't it?

[IainC]

I spoke to the guy after the presentation. The city fly-through is all in engine. It's just a static level though, there's no animation or actors in it.

During the presentation I asked why there was so little to show for 6ish years of development and the guy basically shrugged and said 'making games is hard' (paraphrased).

[Kail]

There's also some info about planned perma death:

CCP also has plans in place to allow the community to elect other players as “Prince of the City,” with each real-world location such as New York and London having elected leaders on a single-server system. The Prince of a City will be handed the power to permanently kill players, but other forms of permadeath won’t be as widespread as on the tabletop game

given typical playerbase spread, that's effectively handing the goons keys to the city, isn't it?

Yeah, normally, I'm in favor of weird shit like permadeath, but this sounds alarmingly one-sided.  Like, the Prince can just unilaterally act against anyone he feels like, while nobody can act against him?  I'm not seeing the fun here.  Enacting a democracy seems kind of pointless when the Prince can just straight up murder anyone who might vote against him with no repricussions.  There's got to be more to it than they're telling, even CCP wouldn't be this clueless.

[Nevermore]

I thought they had cancelled this to focus their resources on Eve.

[IainC]

It's not in a happy place but apparently there are still people working on it, just not many.

[Threash]

You'd think a game about vampires would be moneyhats, if released soonish.

[Modern Angel]

Looking at the totality of this abortion I could not think of a more wrong way to do things. Every bit of it, from concept to execution to stringing people along to etc etc etc.

[UnSub]

It's not in a happy place but apparently there are still people working on it, just not many.

Should WODO ever launch, this will be Exhibit A of why it's either 1) a mess, or 2) incredibly over-budget when the 'old version' has to be thrown out / re-written.

Or it could be just the engine team at work, and WODO is the place they put them.

[Margalis]

At GDC a few years ago there were roughly a million people with CCP shirts, nearly all of them young dudes, and they had their own party in the evening. I sort of got the impression that they were riding high and had gone out and hired a huge mass of people all at once and were sort of throwing their weight around by sending them all to GDC. Almost like some sort of DotCom era remnant.

Also I fully admit that I had to double check to make sure this wasn't the same game as The Secret World, something I have to do EVERY SINGLE TIME I hear about either of them.

[palmer_eldritch]

On a complete tangent, it's only because I am *really* interested in seeing that video that I sat through a 30 second unskippable advert for Hotmail (Hotmail!) to get to it. Usually I'd immediately hit the back button on my browser - I don't even need to move my mouse, just press a button on the side of the mouse with my thumb.

[Sir T]

You'd think a game about vampires would be moneyhats, if released soonish.

Only if they sparkle in the sunlight.

[Evildrider]

Sad thing is if it was a Twilight MMO, it would kill WoW. 

Hell I think a Harry Potter MMO would make bank. 

[Sir T]

The Harry Potter books vould fit into an MMO pretty well, withthe different houses and so on.

But with my faith in Humanity I think you are dead on with a twilight MMO. Right down to the getting rewards for number of girls stalked.