Team Fortress 2

[caladein]

I wish demoman had the bundles of dynamite, though. The odd glowy spiky balls just don't have a visceral feel to them. I also couldn't seem to stick them on people. Really, really need to be able to stick them on people. Load up a heavy's arse with 8 boomballs and wait until he is surrounded by some buddies...

I'm pretty sure you can air-detonate them though, which is pretty satisfying (though they may have just attached to a far wall, I don't play Demo often). I remember bagging schild with them when he was sniping on offense on Dustbowl a few times. They're great to plant wherever Snipers like to pace across (not so much on 2Fort though, except on the bottom doors) because they don't automatically cause them to scatter like with the grenades.

[Yegolev]

Dispensers mean you never have to worry about ammo.

Dispensers also mean you wish your mic worked so you could tell the engs to BUILD SOME DISPENSERS.

Also I agree with angry.bob, did that successfully myself once.  I had my back in the corner, between the dispenser and the wall, which annoys spies.  My readouts told me I destroyed your desk-encampment, angry.bob, not sure what you saw but I saw "Yegolev -> Dispenser/Turret/angry.bob".  I like how you ran out into the hallway for a tasty grenade, though.  I coat mine with chocolate.

[angry.bob]

not sure what you saw but I saw "Yegolev -> Dispenser/Turret/angry.bob".  I like how you ran out into the hallway for a tasty grenade, though.  I coat mine with chocolate.

Bah, and how many tries did it take you? I think you died to your own nade right after me though, so I count that as a victory. I'm not sure, but I think you'd killed the dispenser without killing the turret. You might have killed the turret another time, but I'm pretty sure you never managed to get all three at the same run. Not that it mattered really, there were two other Sentry guns in the room in the corners.

[Ookii]

ANd FruityFlesh is indeed the devil. Also, the server is way too popular as it took me 30 minutes to get on the server last night.

If you ever want to hop on the server while it's busy just ping us in steam and we'll kick someone so you can get in.  Of course if we're actually playing you can only contact schild, since I have killed the steam overlay for sake of my FPS.

[Quinton]

I think I may be sucking ever so slightly less at this than when I started, but am skeptical about ever being much of an fps'er.  On the other hand, it is certainly a lot of fun, though I do wish for a little more variety in maps or mission types.

- Q

[schild]

Here's the problem with putting one at the top of the stairs like Hat suggested. The spy shotgun shoots straight through the stairs. On 2 of those 3 spots, I can mow down a turret in 4-5 shots assuming I get 1 crit. it takes roughly 2.5 seconds. I probably should have made those spots blue.

[schild]

The best place for a turret in 2fort is on the desk right on top of the plans, with the scanning arc covering both hallways. Put a dispenser next to the desk against the wall in that little nook. Then just stand there and shoot anyone who comes in the room and hit stuff with a wrench to repair it.Never in a million years will anyone get in the room without ubercharge, and then there's no way they're getting back out of your base.

Wrong.

[bhodi]

actually schild is right; demoman seems to be the name of the game when destroying turrets is concerned.

[Yegolev]

not sure what you saw but I saw "Yegolev -> Dispenser/Turret/angry.bob".  I like how you ran out into the hallway for a tasty grenade, though.  I coat mine with chocolate.

Bah, and how many tries did it take you? I think you died to your own nade right after me though, so I count that as a victory. I'm not sure, but I think you'd killed the dispenser without killing the turret. You might have killed the turret another time, but I'm pretty sure you never managed to get all three at the same run. Not that it mattered really, there were two other Sentry guns in the room in the corners.

Everything you say is true, including the part where I blew up both of us.  I could have handled that better, so yes it was a victory for the defense.  I didn't expect you to rush me, most of the engs I fight seem to be pussies.  The other two turrets, I couldn't have touched those... I think; will try during another session.  As for number of tries, I actually lobbed something like 24 grenades behind the desk during that push, seems like I reloaded at least twice, so while I'm pretty proud of it on a personal level, it's not like I was all "i'm in ur base killin ur breefcase".  Probably the turret went poof after you came at me, I sent a lot of grenades in there.  A lot.  I enjoyed the hell out of that.

[Slayerik]

Im horrible about screenshots. I had like a quadruple baseball bat run, shoulda SSed it.

Also, pyro on certain maps is money.

[Yegolev]

Funny thing about pyros, I keep getting killed by them but I can't seem to kill anyone with them.  I'm sure I'm doing it wrong.

[eldaec]

actually schild is right; demoman seems to be the name of the game when destroying turrets is concerned.

Demoman is the name of the game full stop.

Picking other classes is just something you do when you feel insufficiently cool and good looking to be worthy of the spendour that is demoman.



On turrets in 2fort, I favour a spot about mid way between the middle two green spots on schild's map. You don't want it right in the corner or it can't see all the way to the bottom of the diagram, and the mid point is a little harder for demomen to hit than the outside-area/upstairs room entrance.

One there, and one on the bottom left green spot and you seem to be spy and scout proof, anyone coming in is going to need multiple coordinated players.

[schild]

Demoman is the name of the game full stop.

Wrong again.

One there, and one on the bottom left green spot and you seem to be spy and scout proof, anyone coming in is going to need multiple coordinated players.

And again! They can get by from the balcony make a very hard left quickly. You can't hope to lock it all down with just 2 engineers. It's not enough. Ironically, more than that leaves you with mostly not enough offense. Most teams have 3-4 engineers. Which is mostly crazy. My opinion? It's best to lock shit down in the basement.

[MrHat]

And again! They can get by from the balcony make a very hard left quickly. You can't hope to lock it all down with just 2 engineers. It's not enough. Ironically, more than that leaves you with mostly not enough offense. Most teams have 3-4 engineers. Which is mostly crazy. My opinion? It's best to lock shit down in the basement.

This is true.  I've done the demojump onto the balcony, and go to basement, destroy 2 turrets and 1 engineer, nab the box and make my way out.  It's rather easy.  You can also demo/rocket jump up the chain floor in the middle.  People flip out when you do.

[schild]

As a scout you can crouch jump onto someones head, and then jump on the balcony or up the chain floor. That's money when it's someone attacking you.

[Prospero]

I'm pretty sure you can air-detonate them though, which is pretty satisfying (though they may have just attached to a far wall, I don't play Demo often).

You definitely can, but it seems like it is about a second till you can blow them up. It's sweet for taking out uppity scouts who think they are going to kill you at range.

[MrHat]

As a scout you can crouch jump onto someones head, and then jump on the balcony or up the chain floor. That's money when it's someone attacking you.

Double props if you kill them on the way up w/ yer shottie.

[schild]

I'm pretty sure you can air-detonate them though, which is pretty satisfying (though they may have just attached to a far wall, I don't play Demo often).

You definitely can, but it seems like it is about a second till you can blow them up. It's sweet for taking out uppity scouts who think they are going to kill you at range.

At the end of the round, sticky grenades are fireworks.

[SnakeCharmer]

Downloading now.  How big is the file?

[bhodikhan]

When you're in-game looking at your stats don't reset them. It doesn't just reset them for that gaming session. It deletes all your stats! Bummer...

[Samwise]

As a scout you can crouch jump onto someones head, and then jump on the balcony or up the chain floor. That's money when it's someone attacking you.

Video or it didn't happen.

[WayAbvPar]

Downloading now.  How big is the file?

Just TF2 was about 4GB IIRC. Took me about 2 hours.

[Samwise]

We live in an amazing age.

* Samwise remembers spending the entire day downloading the 8MB Quake 1 demo.

[schild]

Hellgate London is 3.2GB.

It took me 32 minutes.

[schild]

As a scout you can crouch jump onto someones head, and then jump on the balcony or up the chain floor. That's money when it's someone attacking you.

Video or it didn't happen.

I'll keep FRAPS running from now on.

[SnakeCharmer]

Downloading now.  How big is the file?

Just TF2 was about 4GB IIRC. Took me about 2 hours.

Rgr.  Getting between 500-600 kb/s.  At about 63 percent done right now.  Should be done about the time I'll be able to play (once my baby boy goes to sleep).

Hellgate London is 3.2GB.

It took me 32 minutes.

Splendid.  What size internet connection?

[Murgos]

A good one.  HGL took me about 2 hours.

[SnakeCharmer]

Damnit.

Full server.

[rtrd]

had great fun on your server just now :)
we should play more often and just mix the teams up more too.

[Quinton]

Okay, Scout is pretty damn fun.  And wow, do the other classes seem slooooow after you've been bouncing around as scout a bit. 

Is there some way to turn around more quickly?  I seem to have a helluva time tracking people up close if I want to go whack 'em on the head with the bat or whatnot.  Am I just lousy or is there some trick to it?

- Q

[Trippy]

Adjust your mouse settings.

[SnakeCharmer]

Good, good fun.  I suck...bad...but still had fun.

 

[Quinton]

Yeah, thanks for some fantastic gaming fun.  I actually feel somewhat useful every now and again too, which is a nice bonus. 

Fiddling with the mouse settings definitely did help the turning business.  The rest is probably just practice, practice.

- Q

[Sky]

I'm not sure why the demoman is black, but has a scottish accent and a drunken demeanor.

Bottle kills ftw last night. A couple really good ones. I did learn some limitations. Even with a medic, don't bumrush a heavy with only a bottle. Check. But getting a better feel for the flexibility of the loadout. Still feels a little lacking without a traditional gun of any kind, hopefully I can get my aim back to where it was when I was playing battlefield, because my only hope for midrange combat is a perfectly placed grenade between the eyes.

[bhodi]

You can cheat a bit and use the alternate weapon and right click to blow the grenade up in mid-air.