Pirates of the Burning Sea- OPEN BETA!

[Numtini]

The stress test seems to be open to non-subs at fileplanet.

[Trouble]

NDA on the basically public stress test? wtf?

[JoeTF]

Fast ships also happen to be most powerful ones, they balance by agaility.

[Venkman]

If the game as a good economy, the fast ships should make good blockade runners if nothing else.

Yes.

[Numtini]

Big points for POTBS the third game after AO and WISH to actually crash before I could log in to their beta.

Edit: I got in. Incredibly umimpressed.

[Mantees]

On paper it looks like THE MMORPG I want to play. let's read the comments after this week. I fear I will not be able to try it myself

[Falconeer]

New non-NDA violating comment (not that my previous unedited post was violating anything): "uhm, bah!"

[taolurker]

On paper it looks like THE MMORPG I want to play. let's read the comments after this week. I fear I will not be able to try it myself

Ahem... The NDA is still in effect even for the Fileplanet Stress test.

[schild]

On paper nearly every MMOG looks good :(

[Bokonon]

They just announced the release date: January 28th22nd, 2008.

What can I say about F13?  It's really my favorite website in the entire universe!  I love the irreverent banter and sly wit these keyboard jockeys produce.  And I especially love the staff, they're AWESOME.

EDIT: Oops, releasing a week earlier than I original posted!

[Nebu]

I think you meant to say: On paper nearly every MMOG GAME looks good :(

MMOG's tend to hold my attention a lot longer than console games.  Even the bad ones. 

[cmlancas]

I think you meant to say: On paper nearly every MMOG GAME thing looks good :(

MMOG's tend to hold my attention a lot longer than console games.  Even the bad ones. 

FIFY <3

I'll definitely agree with that. I thought FFXII was better than most MMO's I've played lately, but I still hang on to my MUD from time to time, and I've yet to play FFXII in uh... maybe three weeks since it was released?

[Mantees]

On paper nearly every MMOG looks good :(

Well I am not sure. To be honest Warhammer Online doesn't look so good to me on paper for example. Same for Star Trek Online or Age of Conan and others.
POTBS made a couple of design choice I really like. Of course where there are good ideas you only have one half of the job done. You will still need to implement them so that the game is also fun, but ...hell.. one good half at least is there!

POTBS end game is PvP, and PvP has a purpose. Tell me how many current MMORPGs can say the same. This might not appeal everyone but it does appeal me.
POTBS has levels but, if what I understood is true, by raising a level you don't gain attributes/hitpoints/etc. In theory this means that it makes sense for a level 20 and a level 50 player to play together. I hate online games in which I can't play with my brother and with my friends because we are on different levels. It really kills the purpose of online gaming for me.
In POTBS everything is player crafted. This makes me hope for a decent economic system. Maybe it won't be EVE Online, but at least something better than WOW or whatever.

Again, I know I am only judging ideas, but at least the design this time interest me so much that I can hope that I might like the game.

[Falconeer]

Age of Conan *could* be really interesting and I'd say that on paper it rocks. Especially because of its PvP. How come it doesn't appeal to you?

[Mantees]

Age of Conan *could* be really interesting and I'd say that on paper it rocks. Especially because of its PvP. How come it doesn't appeal to you?

I hate online games in which I can't play with my brother and with my friends because we are on different levels. It really kills the purpose of online gaming for me.

 :-D

[Hoax]

The second the introduced avatars and land combat I was convinced that this game wouldn't come off well, I'm 95% sure I'm still right.

[Hellinar]

Yeah, they also speeded combat up at the same time. They now advertise "Blistering Naval Combat" and "snap decisions while planning what’s going to happen in thirty seconds." Doesn't sound much like the Age of Sail to me. I suspect Nelson planned his combat moves a bit more than 30 seconds ahead.

Still, guess that is what they had to do once they moved from "niche" to "mainstream". Might still be worth a try, it does have some novel features listed.

[Xuri]

I hate online games in which I can't play with my brother and with my friends because we are on different levels. It really kills the purpose of online gaming for me.

 :-D

(More de-railing, sorry)
Don't quote me on this one, but I think I recall reading that AoC will feature a "master/apprentice"-system alá CoH sidekick, though it's entirely possible I've just imagined that. :P

[Prospero]

Yeah, they also speeded combat up at the same time. They now advertise "Blistering Naval Combat" and "snap decisions while planning what’s going to happen in thirty seconds." Doesn't sound much like the Age of Sail to me. I suspect Nelson planned his combat moves a bit more than 30 seconds ahead.

It's a rare group of people who want to spend 2 solid days on one fight. =)

[Yegolev]

Yeah, there's realism, then there's "hey, let's make this a bit more entertaining".  Most people would likely enjoy the second option.

[cmlancas]

What we really want to know is if, during this week-long ship to ship combat fest, our characters can wear tophats.


Is anyone really looking forward to this?

[Hellinar]

Yeah, there's realism, then there's "hey, let's make this a bit more entertaining".  Most people would likely enjoy the second option.

True, realistic would be way too slow.  But I'm talking the difference between a three minute fight or a ten minute fight. The slower version would give you time to consider more options before making your move. For me, its those choices that are a big part of the fun.

I'm concerned that the "blistering naval combat" will be mostly button mashing. I'll likely give it a try though.

[Falwell]

What we really want to know is if, during this week-long ship to ship combat fest, our characters can wear tophats.


Is anyone really looking forward to this?

I want to try to get excited for this one, but everytime I see the actual avatar combat, it just kills it.

[Hoax]

I was excited ~two years ago, back when we were playing Cid's Pirates!  Someone want to announce a ninja MMO and ruin it for completeness sake?

[WayAbvPar]

I was excited ~two years ago, back when we were playing Cid's Pirates!  Someone want to announce a ninja MMO and ruin it for completeness sake?

Oh dear god. The sheer number of munchkins in a ninja MMOG would be staggering.

[Modern Angel]

What we really want to know is if, during this week-long ship to ship combat fest, our characters can wear tophats.


Is anyone really looking forward to this?

I want to try to get excited for this one, but everytime I see the actual avatar combat, it just kills it.

Wait. There's video of the avatar combat?

[WayAbvPar]

What we really want to know is if, during this week-long ship to ship combat fest, our characters can wear tophats.


Is anyone really looking forward to this?

I want to try to get excited for this one, but everytime I see the actual avatar combat, it just kills it.

Wait. There's video of the avatar combat?

Sure!

[Modern Angel]

I dunno. It looks pretty good but I'm surprised at how low poly it is. Action packed to be sure, though!

[UnSub]

I was excited ~two years ago, back when we were playing Cid's Pirates!  Someone want to announce a ninja MMO and ruin it for completeness sake?

Oh dear god. The sheer number of munchkins in a ninja MMOG would be staggering.

... but the cries of "Nerf stealth!" would be nuggets of comedy gold.

[Drogo]

I was really looking forward to a Sid Meier's Pirates meets EvE game. I wanted the fight for territory, the economy, and perhaps even the skill system of EvE combined with the simple pirates sea combat system with forty ships added. That is a game I would have gladly paid for. Unfortunately, it seems they have tried to mainstream the game too much for my tastes by putting in a leveling system, a somewhat bland crafting system, and territorial control that gets reset when one side scores enough points.

I was interested, but now I will just wait to read the reviews after it is launched and I do not expect it to be positive.

[Venkman]

One thing I'd recommend is to not draw too much parallel between statements about fast battle and the reason to have those battles in the first place. Unlike other MMOs, making combat changes doesn't automatically come with a gutting of the crafting and commerce portions.

The rest is NDA land but the above is safe.

Edit: Words are hard.

[Trouble]

I was really looking forward to a Sid Meier's Pirates meets EvE game. I wanted the fight for territory, the economy, and perhaps even the skill system of EvE combined with the simple pirates sea combat system with forty ships added. That is a game I would have gladly paid for. Unfortunately, it seems they have tried to mainstream the game too much for my tastes by putting in a leveling system, a somewhat bland crafting system, and territorial control that gets reset when one side scores enough points.

I was interested, but now I will just wait to read the reviews after it is launched and I do not expect it to be positive.

I have pretty much the same sentiment. "Shallow" is the best descriptor I could come up with.

[Yegolev]

True, realistic would be way too slow.  But I'm talking the difference between a three minute fight or a ten minute fight. The slower version would give you time to consider more options before making your move. For me, its those choices that are a big part of the fun.

I do agree with you and I would really love to have those options to consider, if I were to play this.  If there aren't options to consider, then even three minutes can get tedious.

[Prospero]

All I can say is, damn you NDA! Here, read this:

http://www.burningsea.com/page/news/article&article_id=10360

I think it is a pretty good summary of how combat feels.

[WayAbvPar]

For those of you suffering from  , PM me so we can hook up in game at some point. If I were in the beta, which I am not saying I am