Samwise
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"From the director of 300 and the writer of V for Vendetta..." would be the obvious choice.
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Hutch
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... comes a story of mystery, betrayal, lust, and murder!
Who are the heroes?
Who are the villains?
Who ...
watches the Watchmen?
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Samwise
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For the teaser trailer, they could say that over footage of the guy spraying "QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODIOS" on a wall. And then have three seconds of Rorschach kicking the crap out of him. Fin.
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Hutch
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They can also insert those little quick clips. Someone moving around just outside the camera, (the owl), with a flapping noise from his cape. Dr Manhattan burning commies in a jungle. Ozymandias addressing a crowd of fans. Or investors. Or Watchmen. Glimpses of a mysterious island.
Someone should write this stuff down.
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UnSub
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The Incredibles is a cartoon, made by Pixar. It succeeded for the same reasons as Toy Story, Monsters Inc, and Finding Nemo. Pixar. Pixar. Pixar.
"The Incredibles" (and the rest of Pixar's output, for that matter) succeed because Pixar makes strong stories as much as anything else, not just because they are Pixar. It was also Brad Bird behind it and a risk for the studio. As for "Hancock", but the same token, if it fails it will because it has Will Smith with superpowers. We'll have to wait and see for "Watchmen". I'm guessing a lot more action will occur in the film than appears in the graphic novel in order to show how effective the characters are at fighting / training in comparison to how dysfunctional they are otherwise. |
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Margalis
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I'm guessing a lot more action will occur in the film than appears in the graphic novel in order to show how effective the characters are at fighting / training in comparison to how dysfunctional they are otherwise. They aren't really very effective at fighting and training though. |
vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Silk Spectre and Nite Owl take down that gang that accosts them pretty handily, and that's with Owl, if not both of them, being way out of their prime. Rorschach does pretty well against the police team that comes after him, considering he had a grappling gun and a few odds and ends on his person. We really don't see much of the Comedian in action, but within the comic he's supposed to be pretty good at what he does too. And Veidt, besides being a genius as well as being able to kick ass, catches a fucking bullet at the end. So really, while they're not, like, Superman levels of badassery (except for Manhattan, of course), they're all above normal levels in varying degrees. So there's more than enough to build upon for a movie, especially if he goes beyond the material a bit and shows stuff mentioned or hinted at in the book.
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They aren't really very effective at fighting and training though.
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The comic book movie I want to see is "Dark Knight Returns." Watchmen seems irrelevant and mired in the 70s. "Dark Knight" seems forward looking, its geopolitical conflict aspects name check Vietnam and the Cold War, but seem relevant to Iraq and the war on terror. The media saturation aspect is more current than ever, and offers a real opportunity to call attention to the artifice of this genre.
Wanna rez this derail because this I'd want to see. Need to wait a few years though so Christian Bale can play out the current run (the first of which was awesome and the second looking like it could be). And I'd say a CGI-buffed-up Dennis Quaid would be fantastic. The right combo of age and crazy-stare. Who for Superman though? |
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UnSub
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I'm guessing a lot more action will occur in the film than appears in the graphic novel in order to show how effective the characters are at fighting / training in comparison to how dysfunctional they are otherwise. They aren't really very effective at fighting and training though. They are very effective at fighting and training. One of the things Watchman shows is that a "good left hook" (probably misquoting Nite Owl I there) is useless against nuclear armageddon or a real superpowered being. The fact that the graphic novel did a lot of its fighting off-panel helped emphasise this. |
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RE: Fanboys vs. Mass Market Appeal. I have to admit I'm not really looking forward to this movie. Last I heard, to answer Unsub's earlier post, the movie will depart from the comic's "conflict resolution" (as opposed to ending, if you know what I mean; I don't know if the ending is different or not. Who cares?) and is given a more standard one. I'd prefer a Watchmen movie free from compromise.
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Provided the movie contains Dr Manhattan's crushing reply to Ozymandias after the 'event', I probably could be content with a change made to the narrative.
Probably.
Probably...
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Uh ?
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Uh ?
There isn't a colour for desparate optimism in the face of overwhelming common sense to the contrary. |
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Ironwood
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I couldn't remember which quote you were talking about off the top of my head. That was my confusion.
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I couldn't remember which quote you were talking about off the top of my head. That was my confusion.
Been a few years since I read Watchmen but I guess it's the bit about 'all humans are ants and you are no more than the most intelligent ant, sorry dude' that Dr. M says to Ozymandias after everything turns out to be part of his scheme to save the world by bringing it to the brink. |
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Moosehands
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I figured he meant: JON: "In the end?" Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends.
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MrHat
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So, I've never read a published comic thingy.
But I'm intrigued. How does one go about...obtaining this Watchmen stuff? Do I go to the library?
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Raguel
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eh, Darniaq hasn't said he finished reading it so I was going to say something, but I guess it's like saying, "rosebud was the  "  |
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Most comic shops that cater to more than just the mainstream Marvel/DC fans ought to carry a few copies of Watchmen.
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IainC
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Most comic shops that cater to more than just the mainstream Marvel/DC fans ought to carry a few copies of Watchmen.
There was a copy in the high street book store in Colorado Springs last time I was there. I think it was a Barnes and Noble. |
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Yeah,I remember seeing it in a few bookstores also.
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Samwise
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A comic shop that doesn't have a copy of Watchmen isn't a proper comic shop.
I might even argue the same for bookstores in general.
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EDIT: ****OBTUSE SPOILERS FOLLOW*** I figured he meant: JON: "In the end?" Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends.
Yep, that's the one. Ozymandias has been so focussed on his 'end' goal and seeks reassurance from Dr Manhattan that he's got some kind of resolution. Manhattan levels him with a reply that tells Oz he'll be dealing with this for the rest of his life. ***END SPOILERS*** |
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MrHat
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So I'm reading this now. First graphic novel ever.
It's a bit strange, but I just finished Jon's backstory or whatever. Really awesomely done.
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Margalis
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I forget, is Jon Manhattan?
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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MrHat
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Yup, it really was incredible to read.
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Ugh. It seems another blog in the kotaku-brand stable. Fuck, they need a better image host. Or a better server. |
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Arnold
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The comic book movie I want to see is "Dark Knight Returns." Watchmen seems irrelevant and mired in the 70s. "Dark Knight" seems forward looking, its geopolitical conflict aspects name check Vietnam and the Cold War, but seem relevant to Iraq and the war on terror. The media saturation aspect is more current than ever, and offers a real opportunity to call attention to the artifice of this genre.
Who for Superman though? Bruce Campbell? |
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Have the trailer in front of half my prints of Dark Knight. It is fucking awesome.
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