5 years and still going

[Ironwood]

Because they couldn't understand why an IP like that had ratings that were worse than people viewing my pic at Hotornot.

They really had a mental disconnect and thought it was theme.  Instead of things like, you know, the lizard space Nazis.

And, frankly, they insulted the audience STRAIGHT AWAY with a first season full of 'I Must Apply This Anti-Rad Gel to Hoshi's Taut Asshole.  The Only Way To Remove It Is For Phlox To Lick It Off.'

Fucking shite program from start to finish.  Woeful.

Assholes.

And anyone that comes here to defend it ?  You're an asshole too.  Asshole.

(No, I don't want to hear how good the last season was.  Fuck Off.)

[Xerapis]

Also, I will be forever bitter about the way they killed Tripp.  I think it actually beats Tasha Yar's death for most completely pointless character elimination ever.

The song was always crap, regardless of the season.  I prefer my sci-fi intro music to be bizarre and otherworldly and completely void of lyrics or Old Earth visuals. I'm not saying any other series got it exactly right, just that Enterprise got it wrong FOR ME.

I liked the Phlox CONCEPT.  Execution was sucky.

And the softcore porn decon sequence was completely unnecessary.  They took that line between edgy and slutty and just jumped right over it and a giant fucking shark all at the same time.

[Reg]

Aww c'mon Ironwood. You can't tell me you didn't like the two parter in the last season set in the Mirror, Mirror universe. :)

[Slayerik]

I started watching Enterprise, and I saw the intro, and I thought...  This is great.  It's different.  This isn't more pompous crappy TV-level orchestral crap, it's an actual song.  Oh and look at the Wright Brothers, and the Space Shuttle.  This is going to be awesome.  It's going to be a show about people like... trekking among the stars, not a bunch of masturbation to the Star Trek Mythos(tm).

Then I watched the show and it sucked, so I quit.  Later I heard about the Borg and some Space Nazi shit and was glad I got out early.

Jolene Blaylock almost makes it watchable.

[Miasma]

And, frankly, they insulted the audience STRAIGHT AWAY with a first season full of 'I Must Apply This Anti-Rad Gel to Hoshi's Taut Asshole.  The Only Way To Remove It Is For Phlox To Lick It Off.'

I stopped watching right there, it was the most pandering, low-brow thing I've ever seen in Star Trek.  Lube me up Scotty. 

[Yegolev]

Voodoorirry.  Welcome to the Link Blacklist.  Enjoy your stay.

[voodoolily]

In my defense, I had seen that vid on Attack of the Show mere moments before the "Watch something horrible" comment was psted here. Blame G4, not me.

[voodoolily]

Voodoorirry.  Welcome to the Link Blacklist.  Enjoy your stay.

btw, what does this even mean?

[LK]

Note:  I just moved, and am bored out of my fucking skull waiting to hear back from various interviews, that could have somthing to do with me being able to watch horrible things.

Here you go!

That almost made me physically sick.  I couldn't watch the whole thing.

[Slayerik]

In my defense, I had seen that vid on Attack of the Show mere moments before the "Watch something horrible" comment was psted here. Blame G4, not me.

Hahah, yeah I saw the same show. I didnt even have to click on the link to know where that was headed.

[Merusk]

Also, I will be forever bitter about the way they killed Tripp.  I think it actually beats Tasha Yar's death for most completely pointless character elimination ever.

Fuck, I completely forgot that Tripp died.  Now I'm pissed all over again.

Voodoorirry.  Welcome to the Link Blacklist.  Enjoy your stay.

btw, what does this even mean?

That he won't ever again click one of your links.   It was pretty damn foul, but I went into it expecting something foul, and I haddn't eaten in a while.  Otherwise you might've made mine, too.  Ewww.

[Morat20]

Also, I will be forever bitter about the way they killed Tripp.  I think it actually beats Tasha Yar's death for most completely pointless character elimination ever.

Fuck, I completely forgot that Tripp died.  Now I'm pissed all over again.

Not only did Tripp die, but his death actually fucking echoed through time to fuck up an episode of ST:TNG.

I caught the particular TNG episode in question, and just pretended the whole fucking Enterprise finale never happened.

[Ironwood]

Tripp Died ?

He was the only one that was any fucking use.  And I mean in the show AND IRL.

Fuck sake, they really wanted to bury that shit, didn't they ?

[Ironwood]

Aww c'mon Ironwood. You can't tell me you didn't like the two parter in the last season set in the Mirror, Mirror universe. :)

Yes.  I fucking can.

See, the mirror image thing stopped being in any way decent when DS9 did it and FUCKED IT RIGHT UP.

Slutty women in fucking leather gear and an Odo that made no fucking sense.

Cunts.

Do Not Ask Me About My Star Trek Fandom.  It died, and it's painful to talk about.


OH AND VOYAGER, FUCK VOYAGER.  FUCK KIM.  FUCK PARIS.  FUCK THAT AUDREY HEPBURN IMITATING BITCH.

[Venkman]

ST stopped having a purpose after TNG. It's not that I think Picard was the best evar!1/1 It's that they didn't bother doing anything but rehashing old TOS and TNG stuff in every show (and most of the movies) the followed. They lost the whole point of the show and weren't skilled enough to ply even what they had.

Jury's out on JJ Abrams. That feels more like the recurring "let's make ST cool!" goal than anything else. Maybe it'll work. I'm just tired of revisionist history. It's like they're scared to go further into the future than TNG was set. What? You worried you're not creative enough to make stuff up?! All they're doing is pissing off the last of their core.

[Sky]

Enterprise had such huge potential. I'm not a big Trek fan, but I've seen quite a bit of the stuff. But the concept of early exploration just as the Federation was getting up and running, the first Enterprise...that could have been so cool and laden with so many great moments, first contact with klingons alone could've been put at the top of the trekkie shrine.

They totally fucked it up and I stopped watching after maybe five episodes.

[Venkman]

Someday a major IP holder is going to be consistent with the lore as coordinated by their out-licensing program, instead of reinventing stuff just for the sake of it. I think I'd have been a lot more interested in Enterprise if they at least paid homage to the books that defined that time period. Instead they played the same formulaec nonsense wrapped with different skins. That's what aggravated me overall, that they couldn't do anything but rehash the past in the past.

[Merusk]

Enterprise wasn't great, but I don't have the spastic explosion of hate for it 'wood does.  Then again, I was only ever a passing fan of ST, not a fanboi.  Given my reactions to the EU in Star Wars, though, I think I understand.

Still, I put the blame for 90% of the Voyager/ DS9/ Enterprise crap on people involved in Sci-Fi today in general.  They seem to feel there's no place for hope at all.  Everything has to be 'edgy' and reflect how shitty things are now.  The major theme seems to be 'humans will never be any better than we are now! Spoiled brats who twist tech, lie and sow trouble throughout the universe, through naivety or malice."

Hell, that one asshat who writes for BSG now had a huge issue with the entire concept of Star Trek to begin with. He's the jackass that started introducing "Black Ops" sections and what-not into the Federation to "make it more real."  Fuck that, the entire idea was that civilization had evolved BEYOND that.  Congrats, you just made the Federation no better than the Romulans, only marginally less xenophobic.

[Xerapis]

NEVER EVER EVER EVER put DS9 in the same category with Voyager and Enterprise.

That will get you the death sentence in at least 5 systems.

Although, DS9 DID take the mirrorverse too far.  But I did find it personally amusing to see that Kira and Garek are finally open about their sexual orientations in the mirrorverse :P

Tripp was the one thing I loved about Enterprise.  Just like the Doctor was the only thing I liked about Voyager.

[Merusk]

NEVER EVER EVER EVER put DS9 in the same category with Voyager and Enterprise.

That will get you the death sentence in at least 5 systems.

It belongs there because it wasn't Star Trek and in-line with the rest of "Teh Vision" of Roddenberry.  I didn't say it was a crappy show, but to call it Star Trek is somewhat disingenuous.

[Xerapis]

Oh, you're one of THOSE people.  I understand now.

Personally, I thought DS9 was better than TNG.  Flame on!

[WindupAtheist]

I too prefer DS9 to TNG.  Oh, and I don't mind Jolene Blalock.  She was always willing to shoot her mouth off to the press about how the shitty writing on Enterprise was killing the show.

[Margalis]

Oh, and I don't mind Jolene Blalock smearing her body with liquid gel.

Fixed.

[cmlancas]

Wow. She has a lot of skeezy pictures on Google Imagesearch, eh?

[Venkman]

Err, yea, wow. I get the impression she wouldn't be shy about an R-Rated Enterprise...

[Slayerik]

Deepthroat Nine?

DS9 was weaksauce, plain and simple.

[WindupAtheist]

I like her boobies, but I was speaking of things like this.

As a die-hard fan of the original series, Blalock was an outspoken critic of the direction Enterprise had taken in its third season, accusing the series of lacking creativity and accusing the producers for being out of touch with the fans. Although she saw season four as an improvement over anything that had come before, she severely criticized the series finale, "These Are the Voyages...", because of its lack of focus on the Enterprise crew, going so far as to call the episode "appalling."

EDIT:  Hooray, Slayerik and I have found something to fight about now that Schild won't let us fight about UO anymore!  TNG was for pussies, DS9 all the way!

[UnSub]

Deepthroat Nine?

There was a film called "Deep Space Sixty Nine" in an adult film store I went into once.

Sadly, it was gone when I returned to purchase it.

[cmlancas]

That is a very, very good thing. I don't think you really wanted to subject yourself to such garbage.

[Slayerik]

I like her boobies, but I was speaking of things like this.

As a die-hard fan of the original series, Blalock was an outspoken critic of the direction Enterprise had taken in its third season, accusing the series of lacking creativity and accusing the producers for being out of touch with the fans. Although she saw season four as an improvement over anything that had come before, she severely criticized the series finale, "These Are the Voyages...", because of its lack of focus on the Enterprise crew, going so far as to call the episode "appalling."

EDIT:  Hooray, Slayerik and I have found something to fight about now that Schild won't let us fight about UO anymore!  TNG was for pussies, DS9 all the way!

Hey I got an idea....lets make a show, a Star TREK show, that involves wanking off in a space station! I mean, why TREK when we can deal with all the drama that is life on a shit turd space station. Also, lets make sure not to cast any hot chicks to make this station at least appealing to the eyes.

To me, Star Trek has always been about cruising the galaxy, pwning aliens, and finding your way out of near impossible situations. That and hot alien bitches (with an occasional straight up human hottie). It probably comes as no surprise that the Original was by far my favorite of them. But I'm no trekkie, I couldn't tell you a thing about voyager (chick captain....LAWL) and only watched Enterprise at my brother's house cause he was into it.

[Ironwood]

Terry Farrell was fairly pretty on that show.

[Xerapis]

Uh...yeah.

Even I thought Dax was hot. 

[Venkman]

I am with Slayerik mostly in my borderline disdain for DS9. I didn't dislike the show, I just thought the premise was boring. You write books about life on a space station. You don't make episodic TV content out of it and expect wide appeal. We don't need Star Trek the Soap Opera. That's why we have Grey's Anatomy (and how General Hospital could stretch to Night Shift... stupid alternative timeline and all). That's why you don't see a Star Wars movie or Cartoon Network episode about life as a moisture farmer. The world of these IPs is backdrop for a reason.

I don't have a problem with Captain Janeway though. I think she could have been fine with better material. They tried to make her too much like Picard in my opinion. I'd have preferred someone more cavalier, maybe a MacKenzie type from the Peter David series. The premise of the show was cool and I was into it for a bit (highlights: finally it occurs to someone they could transport a bomb into a Borg entity... DUH!, the Phoenix prototype ship that splits into three parts, underutilized though it was, slipstream, that bad guy that lured Janeway away on the supposedly-deposited next-gen Starship because she unlocked Species 8472. Good stuff).

But I hate revisionist history. I know why it happens (the Producers seemed to not care about the out-licensed activities), but it's annoying.

[Murgos]

OH AND VOYAGER, FUCK VOYAGER.  FUCK KIM.  FUCK PARIS.  FUCK THAT AUDREY HEPBURN IMITATING BITCH.

What did Audrey do?



You mean Katharine:

[WindupAtheist]

Look, original Star Trek beats the shit out of DS9, no doubt.  Kirk just cruised around the galaxy with his pals Spock and Bones, bitchslapping uppity aliens, banging sluts, and murdering gods.  No shit, if you were a weird alien being or a supercomputer and you had a tribe of primitive people worshipping you, and Kirk showed up, it was time to look the fuck out because he was about to prove some point about the value of independence by ruining your shit.

And DS9 was spotty anyway.  But it's good moments were pretty good, and it was fuckloads better than TNG, which with only rare exception was dry, boring, neutered, politically correct drek.