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Title: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on July 14, 2005, 08:29:17 AM I started watching Rescue Me when the new season started up a few weeks ago. Wow.
This is goddamn great TV. And I never watch TV. It's like a Greek Tragedy. The characters are generally likeable, with glaring personality flaws that insure the most fucked up results will happen. And some of the lines..... <Dennis Leary starts laying down piles of money on his kitchen table.> Leary: "Kids, come here. Who wants to tell me about moving to California?" Daughter: "But.... Mommy says we can't talk about that when we're over here." Leary: "That's why we have the money, sweetheart." I'm really cracking up at Leary hallucinating Jesus while he's drying out. Man... "You going to make me that sandwitch or what?" Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on July 14, 2005, 08:35:02 AM Did you see last season? Or The Shield? Or 30 Days? Nip/Tuck (though I don't watch it, it's supposed to be good)?
Hell, FX is producing some really good television with "edge" and while sometimes they go overboard on the melodrama/cursing/shock aspect, it's always generally compelling television. I worry about their lineup of comedies starting Thursday nights in August, as well as the "soldiers in Iraq" show called Over There that's starting in a few weeks. I think that the latter is just coming at the exact wrong time to be anyway respectful to our soldiers and their families. But yeah, Rescue Me is great in that Deadwood sort of way. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: ahoythematey on July 14, 2005, 08:57:43 AM Nip/Tuck is awesome if you can physically cope with eye-rolling every 15 minutes or so within the show. The Shield remains awesome, thanks to Michael Chiklis and the greatness of Vic Mackey. I'm afraid to admit I have not watched Rescue Me yet, though, and I am ashamed. Hell, I've seen Two If By See just because it had Leary so I should have watched it ages ago. I'm a bad television viewer, Nielsons will be upset...
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on July 14, 2005, 09:00:44 AM The Best TV got canceled 3 years ago when
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: ahoythematey on July 14, 2005, 09:07:11 AM You got that one wrong, it was cancelled when Keen Eddie and Titus were shitcanned.
Yeah, Nip/Tuck has unbelievably good writing and most of the dialogue is outstanding, I just sometimes find myself hurting my eye-sockets with some of the twists they place in the show, like McNamara's son and his whole thing... "That's not a lady, that's a man, man." Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on July 14, 2005, 09:11:14 AM At least Keen Eddie was released on DVD very quickly.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on July 14, 2005, 09:41:56 AM Yeah, Nip/Tuck has unbelievably good writing and most of the dialogue is outstanding, I just sometimes find myself hurting my eye-sockets with some of the twists they place in the show, like McNamara's son and his whole thing... "That's not a lady, that's a man, man." Season 2 is when I stopped watching Nip/Tuck, it just got way too damn ridiculous for me. The season 1 ending was a bit of a let down also, they'd be dead men by now. I like it that my favorite shitcanned shows show up on DVD with much rapidity. I never picked up Keen Eddie, but Wonderfalls was in my hands before the corpse was cold. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on July 14, 2005, 09:45:58 AM Bullshit!
Is the best show on tv imo. Or the Daily Show. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 14, 2005, 10:02:32 AM Rescue Me is definitely one of the best shows on. I have been a huge Denis Leary fan since his days on Remote Control (bet you young'uns don't even remember that!), and the writing and acting on RM are top notch. I can't believe the shit they can get away with on that show- everything except F-bombs and full frontal nudity, as far as I can tell.
Other current favs include Deadwood, Arrested Development, and Curb Your Enthusiasm. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on July 14, 2005, 10:04:18 AM If there's anyone on this board that doesn't remember Remote Control, I'll be a sad panda.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 14, 2005, 10:06:27 AM Hell, I've seen Two If By See just because it had Leary so I should have watched it ages ago. Yes, but did you see "Operation: Dumbo Drop" because Leary was in it? Unless the answer is "yes", you have nothing of which to be ashamed. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on July 14, 2005, 10:07:00 AM If there's anyone on this board that doesn't remember Remote Control, I'll be a sad panda. I remember it.... And count it as one of the many unredeemable things MTV has given us. Don't take it personally though: I pretty much hate TV in general. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 14, 2005, 10:10:58 AM "Remote Control", yes I forgot about that. It deserves to be #1 and Puck #2. Thank you for reminding me.
That's back when Adam Sandler and Colin Quinn were funny. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 14, 2005, 10:14:07 AM Quote That's back when Adam Sandler and Colin Quinn were funny. Exactly! Also, Kari Wuhrer was smokin' hot. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on July 14, 2005, 10:14:19 AM If there's anyone on this board that doesn't remember Remote Control, I'll be a sad panda. I don't...not one bit. Though for years there was no MTV in my house, which may have something to do with it. Something about how my mother didn't like the objectification of women, so she had the channel blocked out. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on July 14, 2005, 10:15:37 AM That explains a lot - also, I think you're one of the youngest, if not the youngest person on the board.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on July 14, 2005, 10:16:24 AM No, I think I beat out Nix by a few months.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 14, 2005, 10:16:51 AM No, I think I beat out Nix by a few months. Canadians don't count. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on July 14, 2005, 10:18:06 AM No, I think I beat out Nix by a few months. Canadians don't count.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on July 14, 2005, 10:21:14 AM I also beat out Shavnir, possibly Fabricated, Daydreamer, and prolly a lurker or two.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on July 14, 2005, 10:27:03 AM Wow.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on July 14, 2005, 10:27:38 AM "Just sayin'."
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on July 14, 2005, 10:48:18 AM "Just sayin'." I just want to ruffle your hair and give you such a big pinch... you little rapscallion, you. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Fargull on July 14, 2005, 10:56:43 AM I quit watching MTV in 85. Aside from that, the only show I have been watching with any regularity is The Closer. I find myself spending to much time watching TNT programming, think I need to just toss the TV.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on July 14, 2005, 11:09:41 AM "Just sayin'." I just want to ruffle your hair and give you such a big pinch... you little rapscallion, you. Note to self: Do not offer Signe and Righ a lift to E3 next year, if it comes up. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on July 14, 2005, 11:22:48 AM If there's anyone on this board that doesn't remember Remote Control, I'll be a sad panda. I don't know what this is. Does it matter that I was born in 81 or not? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 14, 2005, 11:24:55 AM Go and learn about the beauty that was Remote Control. (http://www.xanfan.com/remotecontrol/)
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Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ozzu on July 14, 2005, 11:45:07 AM The best show on television is most definitely Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel. :-D
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on July 14, 2005, 11:45:25 AM I'm working my way through Season 1 on DVD right now. Some of this stuff is heart-rending....
Just watched the episode where they find the little girl underneath the collapsed sealing. Leary has a conversation with her, trying to keep her calm and tell her everything's alright. They pull the girl out, the EMT tells Leary that the girl has a crushed spine and was killed instantly. Leary had been imagining a conversation with the girl for about 5 minutes. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: ClydeJr on July 14, 2005, 11:50:47 AM Anyone been watching "30 Days"? Its by Morgan Spurlock, the same guy who did "Supersize Me". It's same idea where they pick something and have someone do it for 30 days to see what happens.
First episode was where Morgan and his wife went to Philly and tried to live for 30 days on minimum wage. They lived in a really cheap apartment with furniture from a local church charity organization. The ate beans and rice most of the time. Unfortunately even with all the scrimping they couldn't make it due to an ER visit (no health insurance) for both of them. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on July 14, 2005, 11:55:06 AM I've watched 30 Days since it started, and have enjoyed every episode. The only quibble I have with it is the obvious bias Spurlock has. It's not offensive, especially since I generally fall on his side of the debate on most of the shows anyway, but I can see how douchebags like Triforcer would go apopleptic on it and try saying it isn't a documentary, it's liberal propaganda.
Every one of his shows have been interesting, and he's just an entertaining guy. Favorite quote: "It's got a little car wang to it." (After drinking the exhaust water from the Honda hydrogen fuel cell car) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Morfiend on July 14, 2005, 12:25:16 PM Bullshit! Is the best show on tv imo. Or the Daily Show. This Sir, is why I love you. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 14, 2005, 12:26:41 PM Just a tad bit of bias on 30 Days? (http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110006868)
Quote I asked the show's executive producers--all of whom worked on "The Awful Truth With Michael Moore," a cable TV show--how this could be a documentary when they had decided the outcome in advance. Wasn't it possible that Mr. Stacy would come out seeing that there isn't Islamophobia to the extent that the Muslim community claims? Might he see that there is disturbingly strong support in the Detroit-area Islamic community for terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah--a fact regularly documented even in the normally pliant Detroit media? No, the producers told me. "Morgan wants the show to demonstrate to America that we are Islamophobic and that 9/11's biggest victims are Muslims." With this in mind, I agreed to be filmed only with final approval of my appearance, which I never gave. Thus I will not appear in Wednesday's show. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on July 14, 2005, 01:44:04 PM If there's anyone on this board that doesn't remember Remote Control, I'll be a sad panda. Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye! And yeah, Kari was hot, wonder what happened to her...Then again, I'm considered old, I guess. When installing a wireless network for my buddy last night, I was teasing his kid because she had no internet the night before (she's 14 or so). I got into the "back in my day, we didn't have no internet, youngin!" But I lost her with "Then again, I did run a BBS out of my bedroom..." Kids, no respect, I tell ya. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 14, 2005, 01:48:04 PM Then again, I'm considered old, I guess. When installing a wireless network for my buddy last night, I was teasing his kid because she had no internet the night before (she's 14 or so). I got into the "back in my day, we didn't have no internet, youngin!" But I lost her with "Then again, I did run a BBS out of my bedroom..." Kids, no respect, I tell ya. I'm always amazed when "young people" come into the store and marvel at a rotary telephone. Kids these days have it too easy. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on July 14, 2005, 04:36:52 PM Yes, because sticking your finger in a hole and turning it in a circle was, like, hard.
You know? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on July 14, 2005, 05:17:37 PM Yes, because sticking your finger in a hole and turning it in a circle was, like, hard. You know? If that wasn't meant to be sexual, that's unfortunate. If it was...HAWT! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on July 15, 2005, 06:55:22 AM Quote I'm always amazed when "young people" come into the store and marvel at a rotary telephone. Actually, I can remember having an old wall-mounted phone with the horn-shaped speaker and seperate earpiece with the crank and party line with single operator. I'm not that old, just that redneck.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 15, 2005, 07:05:51 AM I'm not that old, just that redneck. I'm totally on your johnboat. Grew up with a rotary phone, dad too cheap to pay extra for touch tone... once it came out, hehe. It's not that a rotary is hard, but would require godlike patience from today's kids. I don't remember Remote Control because there is still no cable access at the house I grew up in. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Bunk on July 15, 2005, 07:56:04 AM A yes, good old stone age memories. My childhood included:
- a rotary phone - a Heathkit TV, no remote - an 8 track and a phonograph - leaded gas - cars without back seat seatbelts - fur as a status symbol - calculators and watches with red led numbers - Intellevision and the C64 ($800 at the time) - the introduction of the Microwave and the the VCR (Beta even) - the belief that gaybashing was normal and ok - shag carpet I don't really miss much of that. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on July 15, 2005, 07:58:22 AM Yes, because sticking your finger in a hole and turning it in a circle was, like, hard. You know? If that wasn't meant to be sexual, that's unfortunate. If it was...HAWT! It wasn't, you pervy little monkey. Dammit. Go to your room. Don't ever come out. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on July 15, 2005, 08:26:46 AM Quote That's back when Adam Sandler and Colin Quinn were funny. Exactly! Also, Kari Wuhrer was smokin' hot. She still is really. I may remember her from such films as 'Thinner' and '8 Legged Freaks'. Hmmmmmmmm Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on July 15, 2005, 08:47:46 AM Quote I don't remember Remote Control because there is still no cable access at the house I grew up in. I saw it at a friend's house. I didn't have cable when I lived with my family - ever. Mom still doesn't have it. I only got cable a couple years ago, in fact. And I only watch a half dozen channels, mostly high-def programming (lots of good music and nature/science stuff).Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 15, 2005, 08:54:57 AM Quote I don't remember Remote Control because there is still no cable access at the house I grew up in. I saw it at a friend's house. I didn't have cable when I lived with my family - ever. Mom still doesn't have it. I only got cable a couple years ago, in fact. And I only watch a half dozen channels, mostly high-def programming (lots of good music and nature/science stuff)."TiVo Makes TV Tolerable!" My list today: Cinematech, Venture Bros., Robot Chicken, Family Guy, Chappelle, Champloo. The only one I go out of my way to watch is Cinematech. Ooops, and Battlestar Galactica returns tonight. I think? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on July 15, 2005, 09:59:52 AM Yes, because sticking your finger in a hole and turning it in a circle was, like, hard. You know? If that wasn't meant to be sexual, that's unfortunate. If it was...HAWT! It wasn't, you pervy little monkey. Dammit. Go to your room. Don't ever come out. :sad_panda: Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 15, 2005, 10:39:45 AM Quote from: Zap2It Carpenter, Guttenberg on Mission to 'Mars' (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271%7C96354%7C1%7C,00.html) (Thursday, July 14 03:35 PM) LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) With seven years of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" under her belt, Charisma Carpenter knows from cult TV. So it seems somewhat natural that she would pop up on "Veronica Mars. Carpenter, last seen in several episodes of "Charmed," will have a recurring part on the UPN show's second season. The series has also signed up '80s movie star Steve Guttenberg ("Police Academy," "Three Men and a Baby") for a recurring role, echoing somewhat the casting of Harry Hamlin last season. Both will appear in "Veronica's" second-season premiere this fall; Carpenter has signed for a minimum of six episodes, and Guttenberg will appear in at least seven shows. Carpenter will play Kendall Casablancas, the trophy-wife stepmother to Dick (Ryan Hansen) and Cassidy "Beaver" Casablancas (Kyle Gallner) -- two of Veronica's (Kristen Bell) tormentors at Neptune High. The Casablancas boys also held a key to untangling the mystery of what Veronica believed was her rape the previous year. Carpenter is the second former "Buffy" regular to appear on the show, following Alyson Hannigan, who appeared as Logan's (Jason Dohring) older sister last season. Her other recent credits include a stint on "Miss Match" and the ABC Family movie "See Jane Date." Guttenberg, meanwhile, will play Woody Goodman, the owner of a big-league baseball team and a candidate for mayor of Neptune. His daughter, a new student at Neptune High, will also be a character, although the role hasn't been cast yet. In addition to the "Police Academy" movies and "Three Men and a Baby," Guttenberg also starred in the classic "Diner" and "Cocoon." Last year he starred in the Hallmark Channel holiday film "Single Santa Seeks Mrs. Claus," and he'll appear in NBC's remake of "The Poseidon Adventure" in 2006. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 15, 2005, 10:43:13 AM Quote from: Boston Herald Voyage to Sci Fi worlds less than stellar (http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=93870&format=&page=1) By John Ruch Friday, July 15, 2005 - Updated: 10:03 AM EST Getting rid of Richard Dean Anderson is always an improvement, but this is ridiculous. Almost totally absent its founding star, the reformulated sci-fi warhorse ``Stargate SG-1'' is now a far more entertaining show than the deservedly praised ``Battlestar Galactica,'' as both premiere tonight. And that's not the only role reversal on Sci Fi's mismatched but successful Sci Fi Friday lineup. The third show of the night, ``Stargate Atlantis,'' no longer is the more imaginative spinoff of ``SG-1.'' It's now the grade-Z space shoot-'em-up that ``SG-1'' had become after seven seasons or so. Never very good to begin with and aging rapidly in its ninth season, ``SG-1'' has wisely recast several roles and returned to its roots in ``Xena''-style campy action. The season opens with a deliciously silly story about Merlin and aliens, and only gets wackier from there, a perfect fit with the show's amiable goofiness. The talentless and grating Anderson as space soldier Jack O'Neill is reduced to ``special appearance by'' status. What a relief. He's replaced by Ben Browder of``Farscape'' fame. That may be salt in the wound to fans of ``Farscape,'' a far superior show that Sci Fi canceled in favor of dreck like, well, ``SG-1.'' But it proves to be a fair trade: Browder is blander than Anderson, but also way less annoying. Where the show takes away fan favorites like Anderson, it replaces them with satisfying new elements - like a British dominatrix played by another ``Farscape'' actor, Claudia Black. Black's treasure-hunting Tomb Raider character Vala appeared briefly last season and has a bigger role early this season, briefly replacing series regular Amanda Tapping. Black adds great campiness, and, of course, geek sex appeal. Sci Fi could probably score the same ratings by simply airing a still photo of her for an hour. Series regulars Michael Shanks as Daniel Jackson and Christopher Judge as Teal'c - always somewhat drowned out by Anderson's less-interesting character - become even more prominent, and the likes of Beau Bridges and Louis Gossett Jr. join the cast. Plus, a new alien race is introduced to further the series' mythos, and there are new worlds to explore - even if they all still look like Vancouver. Change is good for this creaky old chestnut, and if it hasn't gotten any smarter, at least it's a lot more entertaining. The same cannot be said for ``Atlantis,'' which debuted last year as an aquatic antidote to ``SG-1'' 's witless war movie approach. The cure is now worse than the disease. The season premiere is ugly, stupid and dull, an endless stream of techno-babble about failing shields and the like. A 10-year-old with a toy ray gun could improvise a more gripping story. The sets look like a lumberyard warehouse and the dreadlocked villains' makeup makes John Travolta's infamous ``Battlefield Earth'' 'do seem respectable. The big twist this time is that heroic Lt. Ford (Rainbow Sun Francks) becomes villainous. Do not wait for the commercial break to go to the fridge during this one. It also adds a cast member: Mitch Pileggi, who played Skinner in ``The X-Files.'' He sits in a chair and barks orders, just one more way in which this show is too much Capt. Kirk, too little Mr. Spock. And that awful pink alien puppet still gets major screen time. A few more episodes like this, and a watery grave awaits ``Atlantis.'' ``Battlestar Galactica'' also begins its second season, and also does so with a predictable, cliche-ridden war story. The difference is, that's an atypical disappointment from a series that has proven to be one of the greatest sci-fi offerings ever. Unlike the ``Stargates,'' it remains a serious show, and deserves faith in its quality. It's never been a series that could be judged solely on one episode. But this is certainly a flat beginning, appropriately titled ``Scattered,'' with its multiple plotlines stretched awfully thin. The gravitas and unique special effects remain remarkable. But that makes plot devices like a good computer fighting a bad computer all the more glaringly stupid. ``Battlestar'' was ``reimagined'' to get rid of cliches like that. ``Battlestar'' has set a very high standard not only for itself but for all of sci-fi. We'll see if it's able to live up to its reputation for a second season. ``Stargate SG-1.'' Season premiere tonight at 8 on Sci Fi Channel. Three stars (out of four). ``Stargate Atlantis.'' Season premiere tonight at 9 on Sci Fi Channel. One star. ``Battlestar Galactica.'' Season premiere tonight at 10 on Sci Fi Channel. Two stars. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on July 15, 2005, 11:40:00 AM Wow. The Boston Herald must be hurting for competent critics. That was nigh incoherent and not really at all what I got from any of the series, all of which I watch. Ah, well, critics aren't anything but meaningless lamprey, anyway.
Quote "TiVo Makes TV Tolerable!" Unless you have a mother*(&*ing time warner DVR. You guys want to bitch about some shitty QA...imagine a hard disk that you MUST NOT FILL UP or it breaks the unit. I wasn't told that (actually Raph told me, but nobody from TW), it's not documented in any literature I received...and now I must face at least a half hour of my time wasted in a call queue...it's been busted for two weeks now, I have no patience to be treated like shit by customer service. If it wasn't such a nice service, I'd just drop my box off and tell them to stuff it.Really thinking about moving to a dish, was hoping to buy my house first. But I really, really dislike the way Time Warner conducts itself. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 15, 2005, 12:43:18 PM That is what you get for going offbrand. TiVo 4 life! :-D
Speaking of TiVo, I finally watched this week's Rescue Me. God I love that show. The whole 'cwot' v 'twunt' debate was hysterical. I am constantly amazed at the fine line they walk. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Bunk on July 15, 2005, 12:49:51 PM I'm just going to say that I'm glad I still have 2.5 seasons worth of Farscape to go in my dvd list. You could reuinte the entire cast on SG1 ad I still don't think I'd watch that dreck. Even if they do film it here.
Though it might mean stumbling across Claudia Black some time.... Nothing wrong with that. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on July 15, 2005, 01:33:53 PM I'm just going to say that I'm glad I still have 2.5 seasons worth of Farscape to go in my dvd list. You could reuinte the entire cast on SG1 ad I still don't think I'd watch that dreck. Even if they do film it here. Though it might mean stumbling across Claudia Black some time.... Nothing wrong with that. The new dvd editions of Farscape are cheap cheap cheap. Eight episodes for $20-30. I liked Season 1 of BSG, and am quite curious about Browder/Black on Stargate. Though I can't say I've seen much of the last couple seasons of the show. I'm starting to get psyched up for Rome this fall. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Otis on July 15, 2005, 03:06:15 PM Quote Wow. The Boston Herald must be hurting for competent critics. Yeah, that Boston Herald article took me a bit by surprise; every other review of BSG's season two premiere has been overly positive. Maybe this guy just needed a nap. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 15, 2005, 03:44:26 PM Unless you have a mother*(&*ing time warner DVR. I have DirecTV (and you know they move your service for free when you move, giving you a new dish and all) and was finally able to get a HD DVR a few weeks ago. I didn't do a lot of research but the only one I knew of was the 1st-party unit. Seems like the DTV version isn't as full-featured as some other types, but not having a HD one would have been asinine. Really, I don't need a LAN connection in the TiVo since I am not a Hong Kong Ebayer. I also don't find myself at work in a panic because I might miss a TV show, so I don't need the web programming thingy. Being able to slo-mo the trailer for The Longest Yard when Courtney was bouncing towards the screen was, by itself, worth $680. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Abagadro on July 15, 2005, 08:37:27 PM Claudia Black's cleavage is being featured quite prominanly in the first ep of SG-1. Plus she's wearing a corsett and dog collar!
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Roac on July 15, 2005, 10:23:43 PM Yeah, sack the critic. BSG was stellar. The geek in me actually likes the techno-nonsense from Atlantis, and the lack of it is one of the things I've disliked about BSG. I can respect that though, because it's not where they're trying to go with the series, and I think they should stick with it. They do very well as a drama, and should stick with it. Looks like they are.
I think SG-1's plot was a bit mixed. IMO, they should've picked a smaller 'adventure', and focused more on character development. They started down that road with the re-constitution of the team, but it came off weak, and got lost with their underground gig. I'm glad that Richard Anderson is gone, and his replacement is alright. My biggest dislike is leaving the primary cast in limbo. It was ok. Atlantis was good, but not great. I *like* the change in direction in Ford's character. Don't see how he can be anything but a supreme nuisance to the Wraith now. I do think the strength of the show isn't in space battles, and am a bit hesitant about having the Daetelus show up, but I'm looking forward to it. Besides, a big fight scene every so often is cool, here it fits into the plot, and this was the season premiere. Cool light show, too. :heart: Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: raydeen on July 16, 2005, 08:09:02 AM (http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B0002U8NOI.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Jack Bauer bitches!!! And that critic is a numbnut. SCI-FI owns Friday nights. Actually havent seen last nights BSG yet. We taped it and opted to watch Monk instead. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Xanthippe on July 16, 2005, 09:31:20 AM Best scene in TV ever - last week's Rescue Me re: Twunt/Cwat
I haven't watched what used to be called the big 3 for a few years (ABC/CBS/NBC). It's been almost all HBO lately but now this little FX channel is kicking ass. The Shield is wonderful. Rescue Me is wonderful. Haven't seen Nip/Tuck but plan on renting season 1. Missed Lost, but it comes out on DVD in September (besides, it's a big 3 show - how can it be any good?) Anything else I should be watching? (Other than HBO and FX I mean). [Obligatory offput-ter: I refuse to watch Spurlock's show. It's bullshit through and through. I don't need to watch an opinion piece put forth as a documentary, tyvm.] Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: AOFanboi on July 16, 2005, 09:54:48 AM (besides, it's a big 3 show - how can it be any good?) "Scrubs" is on NBC, so good shows can exist on the Big Three. Of course, comedy is different from drama.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Lum on July 16, 2005, 01:24:50 PM Well, a lot of the BSG opener was, well, er, opener. Still, it had its moments. The Tigh/Adama flashbacks were good. The scene with Tigh and Boomer was great. And, of course, the line of the show (spoiler removed).
Still, the best moment in the season will come near the end; according to the sypnoses, the Battlestar Pegasus is returning, but with Michelle Forbes in the Lloyd Bridges role. Ouch. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Abagadro on July 16, 2005, 02:16:25 PM Ou est mui macho?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Murgos on July 16, 2005, 02:17:31 PM (besides, it's a big 3 show - how can it be any good?) "Scrubs" is on NBC, so good shows can exist on the Big Three. Of course, comedy is different from drama.Watch Green Wing on BBCA instead. 5 times funnier and it's the same show. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on July 16, 2005, 02:20:59 PM (besides, it's a big 3 show - how can it be any good?) "Scrubs" is on NBC, so good shows can exist on the Big Three. Of course, comedy is different from drama.Watch Green Wing on BBCA instead. 5 times funnier and it's the same show. Not funnier. Not even close. Scrubs is many times better. One simple reason: Rowdy. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on July 16, 2005, 03:29:43 PM I enjoy them both. They are just as nice as each other. Sort of like Shockeye and S-Child.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on July 16, 2005, 03:55:00 PM S-who?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on July 16, 2005, 06:36:53 PM Hyphenated names are classy. I was only trying to help.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on July 18, 2005, 09:50:24 AM [Obligatory offput-ter: I refuse to watch Spurlock's show. It's bullshit through and through. I don't need to watch an opinion piece put forth as a documentary, tyvm.] Here's the thing about the show. All his biases are right there for you to see, if you just use your brain. He's not speaking deeply, he's not getting into a lot of minuatiae on the subject, and it's pretty damn obvious where his opinions lie. There are some interesting stories despite the biases, just like Super Size Me. If you take it as the gospel, unaltered and uncommented on truth, you are no better than the Dittoheads who listen to Rush Limbaugh as if he was dispending fish and loaves from a pocketbook, or the twats who think Michael Moore is the ultimate in truisms. Of course, I'm also of the opinion that "objective documentary" isn't possible, simply by the nature of what you choose to document and what you choose not to document. No story is the whole truth, but the 30 Days bit can at least give you a start to find your own truths. Also, Lost is like no other Big 3 show, other than maybe Alias (which I've never watched). It's just that good. The BSG opener was decent but unspectacular. I may have been too distracted or tired to fully comprehend it, and thus my memory of it is faulty. It was still better than most TV on. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on July 18, 2005, 10:46:00 AM Bullshit! >> 30 Days.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Xanthippe on July 18, 2005, 10:48:29 AM Yes, but there's bias and there's bias. I don't need to be preached at by Morgan Spurlock - particularly when I really don't share much of his worldview at all. I'd rather watch the documentaries on Nova or Nature, where the bias is far less noticible and not the focus of the show. Setting out to convince people to believe a certain way despite evidence that things may really not be that way at all is not an attractive option for me. It's deceptive. No thanks.
When will l be able to download TV shows I've missed and watch them on my PC? I missed BSG - is the one on tonight the first one? Going to set up the TiVo now so I don't miss more. [Obligatory TiVo push: best home appliance since the pc. And TiVo, not just some dvr. TiVo does it right. They need to interface with iTunes though. I want to play my music lists on my TV sometimes. TiVo music interface is almost useless.] Started watching Nip/Tuck off the dvd for season 1. Uneven, but compelling. Can't watch the icky surgery scenes but the soapy body rubbing scenes make up for it. Hate all of the characters so far. Dickman who can't keep it in his pants and Pussyman who can't take it out, and we're supposed to believe that they are best friends for 20 years? Please. And enough with the teenager-as-psychologist-grandfather crap. Huff did that - parents act stupid, kid straightens them out. As if. Of course, the parents are so dumb that my cat could give them advice. Incongruous plot turns and unbelievable dialogue hurts this show badly. (Rescue Me shows that incongrous plot turns can work if done well, but Nip/Tuck doesn't do them well.) Am I going to rent the rest of season 1? You betcha. Am I going to watch season 2? Not sure. The Shield is great. Rescue Me is great. Nip/Tuck is .... about on par with Desperate Housewives for me. Flawed. Could be great but isn't. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on July 18, 2005, 11:00:13 AM I've heard the MLB games are good. That's about all I watch. The rest of TV can go straight to Hell since I really just can't put up with the programming selection anymore.
I also watch Simpson's reruns, Family Guy, and the occasional smattering of Comedy Central. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Fargull on July 18, 2005, 11:18:56 AM I have been watching Into the West (http://alt.tnt.tv/itw/#) which for my viewing dollars is much better than the rest of the crap. I am also watching the Closer and CSI.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on July 18, 2005, 11:22:25 AM When will l be able to download TV shows I've missed and watch them on my PC? I missed BSG - is the one on tonight the first one? Going to set up the TiVo now so I don't miss more. Right now. Oh, you meant legally. You'll see legal downloads for TV when the DVD market on TV shows starts to dry up, which is sort of happening already thanks to there being just way too damn much available for the shelf space. When TV sees that revenue start to shrink, they'll look for another avenue, and downloading is the next big thing. Of course, expect years of hemming and hawing and shitty, ass-raping digital rights management bullshit. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: ClydeJr on July 18, 2005, 11:48:09 AM Yes, but there's bias I missed BSG - is the one on tonight the first one? Going to set up the TiVo now so I don't miss more. Yup, the one they're showing tonight is a repeat of Friday night's episode called "Scattered".Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on July 18, 2005, 12:07:48 PM Quote They need to interface with iTunes though. I want to play my music lists on my TV sometimes. That's why you hook up your pc to the home theater system. It rocks....literally.Quote The rest of TV can go straight to Hell since I really just can't put up with the programming selection anymore. I fully agree, and it's why the majority of my viewing is the HD channels. Usually far better than the SD content, even though there are about 350 less channels.And a big thing to remember: almost no commercials on a lot of the HD channels. I also forgot to mention TNTHD, just because there are so many commercials I never watch it. I despise commercials....which is why I'm in jones-mode without my DVR. Watching the daily show is painful because I can't sit through commercials. Quote You'll see legal downloads for TV when the DVD market on TV shows starts to dry up, which is sort of happening already thanks to there being just way too damn much available for the shelf space. They are also expensive. I was going to buy a few for mom last christmas, but the sticker shock drove me away. Blatant money grab on dead properties ftw.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on July 18, 2005, 12:21:44 PM Quote You'll see legal downloads for TV when the DVD market on TV shows starts to dry up, which is sort of happening already thanks to there being just way too damn much available for the shelf space. They are also expensive. I was going to buy a few for mom last christmas, but the sticker shock drove me away. Blatant money grab on dead properties ftw.The worst part is that the prices have gotten BETTER than when they first start releasing stuff on DVD. The original Farscape eps on DVD were $20 for 2 episodes, which was blatant asspiracy. But yeah, they are still expensive. Which is why I recommend some place like Half.com (http://www.half.ebay.com/) for things like that. You can usually find good condition DVD's for almost half as much as retail. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 18, 2005, 12:36:27 PM I don't mind paying $25-$30 a season for a decent show. Unfortunately, the HBO series (The Sopranos, Deadwood, etc) are like 3 times that price for less episodes! $$7 an episode is a little more than I want to pay, even for stuff as good as that.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Xanthippe on July 18, 2005, 01:14:28 PM I don't mind paying $25-$30 a season for a decent show. Unfortunately, the HBO series (The Sopranos, Deadwood, etc) are like 3 times that price for less episodes! $$7 an episode is a little more than I want to pay, even for stuff as good as that. I have way too much crap on media already. It's a storage nightmare. I don't want to own the Sopranos. I can rent it whenever I like. If it was up to me, I'd own no DVDs at all other than the occasional music dvd (Buena Vista Social Club, or Aja). I have tons of vinyl, cds, tapes, dvds, video tapes, books, and I either have to cull the collection or stop collecting. (I vote for stopping collecting; my spouse needs the product in his own possession for reasons known only to him). The vinyl's a problem. The attic is too hot and the basement is too damp. We live in a house too small already for 4 people, not to mention lots of crap. I want a media server, and I want it now. I want to download content - all of it, TV/movies/music/games/books. I don't want yet another new kind of media. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on July 18, 2005, 01:26:42 PM I was the same way, so I just decided to sell most of my stuff off. I've limited my DVD collection to just "lonely guy" movies now (The Man With No Name Trilogy, Taxi Driver, Road Warrior, American Werewolf in London, Edward Scissorhands, et al), and my CD's to only desert island discs (ripped everything else to hard disk and sold them), and my vinyl collection now consists of a copy of the Byrds' "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" and Richard Pryor's "That N*gga's Crazy!" For no reason really.
I haven't decided what to do with my books as of yet. Basically what I'm saying is: Find a "theme" and stick to that. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 18, 2005, 01:38:16 PM and my vinyl collection now consists of a copy of the Byrds' "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" and Richard Pryor's "That N*gga's Crazy!" For no reason really. ... Basically what I'm saying is: Find a "theme" and stick to that. Got it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on July 18, 2005, 01:57:31 PM Heh. Call it a crossroads, I guess. My vinyl collection was jumbled to begin with. I haven't decided on a theme to build upon yet. Will it be "Country albums recorded by bands that weren't known for Country"? Or "Albums recorded by post-Lenny Bruce stand up comics"? It could go either way at this point.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Hanzii on July 19, 2005, 04:19:34 AM Quote They need to interface with iTunes though. I want to play my music lists on my TV sometimes. That's why you hook up your pc to the home theater system. It rocks....literally.... They are also expensive. I was going to buy a few for mom last christmas, but the sticker shock drove me away. Blatant money grab on dead properties ftw. I'm building a box to put in the storage room next to my kitchen in my new house. 500 Gb Hitachi HDD with all my music and downloaded television on it. The lcd will be in our kitchen (using the DiNovo Bluetooth combo to control). In the living room I have a Pinnacle ShowCenter (mediaextender) and upstairs I have an extender that only does music and internet radio. Now the two extenders use different streaming software, so I'm curious whether they'll work together (my PIXMA IP4000R printer is wireless, so I can use this from that box, the office pc and the laptop) I'm also thinking about replacing the Pinnacle with the KISS DP-558, which will also replace my Philips harddiskrecorder - only problem is that the KISS isn't nearly as good as the Philips as a dvd-player and for timeslip and hdd-playback, but beats it as a DivX-player, media-extender and with added internet features like an EPG and internet radio etc. (bear in mind, that we have nothing like TiVo over here, so the electronic program guide built into the KISS is the best we can get) I wish the EU open market would be a bit more open. We can buy tv-shows and whatnot from England (but could do it cheaper from the US and Canada, so who cares) but we can't rent. Over here we can only rent the very few tv-shows, that are subtitled, and that's a limited bunch. The rest we have to buy at the ridiculous high prices or torrent... which brings me back my DivX enabled media extender setup :mrgreen: Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 19, 2005, 08:50:05 AM My theme is "David Bowie", although sometimes I listen to other things. Keeps things simple since I can easily store thirty CDs in my truck.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on July 19, 2005, 08:54:39 AM Description. Wow...um...that's a lot of...stuff... I have a TV with cable in my room, and do everything else besides console/TV on my PC. Um... Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on July 19, 2005, 09:17:08 AM My theme is "David Bowie", although sometimes I listen to other things. Keeps things simple since I can easily store thirty CDs in my truck. Does that include "Labyrinth", "Basquiat", and "The Hunger" on DVD too? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on July 19, 2005, 09:19:41 AM I felt anxious reading Hanzii's post. I didn't understand a bit of it!
There is so much in this world I don't understand. I'm sad. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 19, 2005, 09:28:38 AM My theme is "David Bowie", although sometimes I listen to other things. Keeps things simple since I can easily store thirty CDs in my truck. Does that include "Labyrinth", "Basquiat", and "The Hunger" on DVD too? I meant music but I might have Labrynth on VHS somewhere. I like pretty much everything Bowie ever did even though I don't have everything. I have only recently come into money, you see. I only listen to music during the commute (~90-100 mins daily) and when I am going through the bedtime routine with my son (mp3 on PC), and in most cases it is Bowie. My wife can't believe that Sam goes to sleep listening to Station to Station. That's my boy! Yesterday I switched from a week of Space Oddity to Heathen, which will probably stay in the player until next week at least. My wife is sick of Bowie. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on July 19, 2005, 09:37:13 AM Be sure to include "albums Bowie has produced" as well :-). Which would include the Stooges' Raw Power, Iggy's first two solo albums...And...Not much else.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 19, 2005, 10:03:26 AM Be sure to include "albums Bowie has produced" as well :-). Which would include the Stooges' Raw Power, Iggy's first two solo albums...And...Not much else. He wrote some songs for Iggy as well, I think... have to look that up again, though. Not sure. Yeah, my collection isn't complete, not at all. I don't have "Under Pressure", for example, nor any Tin Machine. Hell, I have not gotten around to ordering Alladin Sane, but I am getting a lot of mileage out of my current set. Too bad he never got that musical based on Orwell's 1984 off the ground, I bet that would have been wacky. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on July 19, 2005, 10:14:18 AM He wrote the music for Lust for Life, and majority of the Idiot. Great album, but Ig's version of China Girl sucks. I don't like the song to begin with, but Bowie's is much better. He also helped write songs on Blah, Blah, Blah.
Anyways, good theme though. :-) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 19, 2005, 10:24:46 AM but Ig's version of China Girl sucks. Naturally. I also don't care for Nirvana's treatment of The Man Who Sold the World. Needs more "clicky-thing". Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on July 19, 2005, 11:38:27 AM (http://members.shaw.ca/msilicz/cowbell.jpg)
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on July 19, 2005, 11:51:38 AM I still think Outside is the best album Bowie ever did, and wish he and Eno had actually finished up the concept trilogy of albums that thing was supposed to spawn.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 19, 2005, 11:53:40 AM but Ig's version of China Girl sucks. Naturally. I also don't care for Nirvana's treatment of The Man Who Sold the World. Needs more "clicky-thing". Really? That is one of my favorite covers of all time. I thought Cobain's voice was perfect for it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on July 19, 2005, 12:18:20 PM Really? That is one of my favorite covers of all time. I thought Cobain's voice was perfect for it. It's a good cover, and I actually like Nirvana. Not better than the original, though. See Sky's post. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on September 17, 2005, 12:18:59 AM I didn't want to make a whole new thread on this, so this necropost seemed my best option since this thread was initially about Rescue Me.
SPOILERS kinda: It's rare that I'm so glad to watch someone get murdered in cold blood. It's especially impressive that they made me hate him so much without giving him any dialogue at all. But that fucker had it coming. Murdering, callous bastard. Hope he felt every second of that bullet. Okay, so I went from thinking the show was interesting to becoming quite addicted. I am now freaking out that there won't be new episodes until 2006. I'll already be swinging my Revolution virtual sword around the room by then. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Abagadro on September 17, 2005, 01:47:33 PM SPOILER REPLY:
You never actually saw the driver-guy get shot. It's possible uncle teddy was shot by the cops. Just sayin. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on September 17, 2005, 02:00:25 PM Finished the complete run of Dead like Me last week. That was freaking awesome. Mandy Patinkin and Ellen Muth were just unreal in the show.
Right now the only things I'm watching are Rome and Prison Break - both of which I'm enjoying. I'll probably start watching Alias when it comes on as well. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on September 17, 2005, 02:30:15 PM SPOILER REPLY: True, I guess. His facial expression seemed like he took a bullet, though, while it looked like the cops just tackled Teddy. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: TheWalrus on September 17, 2005, 05:47:20 PM I think one of the things I like about Rescue Me so much is that everything is NOT always alright in the end. While sometimes farfetched, it's true to how shitty life (and death) can be.
Oh and Haem, Over There is actually a pretty damn good show. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on September 18, 2005, 12:53:26 AM Since I know Suzy on the biggest loser, I'm going to go with that right now.
(ok - maybe Battlestar Galactica is my favorite) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on September 18, 2005, 01:39:38 AM SPOILER REPLY: True, I guess. His facial expression seemed like he took a bullet, though, while it looked like the cops just tackled Teddy. I've decided that Teddy DID shoot the guy, and he was wounded fatally. I've decided this because there are no more episodes until 2006, and I don't want to think about that fucker between now and then. Very rare for a fictional character to piss me off so much. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Fabricated on September 18, 2005, 12:58:55 PM I picked up the first season of House M.D. recently. Great show. I've never really payed attention to actor names, so I don't know who plays House, but whoever he is deserves an award. He's fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Morfiend on September 18, 2005, 02:26:36 PM Nip/Tuck starts on tuesday. I can wait. Least season left us hanging pretty badly.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on September 18, 2005, 08:08:43 PM I know I'm not much of a font of info for TV, but I liked the two new TNT series, "Closer" and "Wanted".
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on September 18, 2005, 10:31:26 PM Finished the complete run of Dead like Me last week. That was freaking awesome. Mandy Patinkin and Ellen Muth were just unreal in the show. Right now the only things I'm watching are Rome and Prison Break - both of which I'm enjoying. I'll probably start watching Alias when it comes on as well. Yah, I liked Dead Like Me. Had some great (and coarse) conversations. Never really warmed to Daisy, though I liked the Roxie character. The show was just a pile of likeable, fairly bizarre, and interesting characters. Some of which happened to be dead. The problem with a show like this is it cuts across too many genres. It was a drama, office comedy, and supernatural show wrapped up in one. And it probably alienated quite a few viewers because of that. Just watched season one of Lost on dvd, and enjoyed it. Reminds me alot of the Xfiles. You have a story arc that touches on the fantastic, with interesting characters. Right now, they seem to be giving away just enough of the mystery to keep you coming back. Of course, my biggest curiosity right now is if they're going anywhere with the angle of two characters named after philosophers who wrote about government and society? (John Locke and Rousseau) If a fucking de Tocqueville shows up this season, I'm going to be seriously confused. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on September 19, 2005, 12:35:20 AM It makes me cry that Mandy Patinkin (Rube, or as most of you know him - Inigo Montoya), is no longer in a comedy.
He was fucking awesome on Dead Like Me. Eventually I'll finish Lost. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on September 19, 2005, 05:13:07 AM I picked up the first season of House M.D. recently. Great show. I've never really payed attention to actor names, so I don't know who plays House, but whoever he is deserves an award. He's fucking awesome. Hugh Laurie (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0491402/), He's been in a lot of stuff, but most know him as the dad from "Stuart Little" or the tall idiot from Blackadder III & IV. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2005, 12:49:14 PM I picked up the first season of House M.D. recently. Great show. I've never really payed attention to actor names, so I don't know who plays House, but whoever he is deserves an award. He's fucking awesome. Hugh Laurie. Yeah, House is just a well-written show that is acted even better than it's written. Rescue Me was a good season finale. There's just enough that changed to make you want to come back and see what else happens with these fascinating characters. There's really a new genre of shows out now, the male soap opera. The Shield, Rescue Me, Deadwood, Rome... if there wasn't so much violence, cursing or sex, they'd be chick shows. Only they keep all the good elements of soap operas, the very Greek tragedy type elements, and add in plenty of testosterone pleasing moments that make you feel masculine about watching gut-wrenching human drama. I watched the Bones premiere (comes on before House on Fox, 7 pm CST Tuesdays) and I liked it. The story was ok, with only a few moments of implausibility, but the real winner for this show is the chemistry between the leads. David Boreanez and the chick just work well together. Prison Break... I couldn't make it through one episode. I was just /meh, despite the fact that I dig Dominic Purcel from his turn as John Doe. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on September 20, 2005, 07:31:42 PM Hmmm....
Just watched a couple episodes from the Firefly boxed set I bought last year. Yah, I watched the entire thing last year, was just checking the replay factor. Like most things Whedon, meh..... You enjoy it the first time, just not alot of payoff to watching again. Anything else people want to recommend for DVD? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on September 20, 2005, 09:32:06 PM Anything else people want to recommend for DVD? Home Movies, season two. One of the funniest fucking shows ever, in my opinion. Definitely has its own humor style, though, so ymmv. But I love it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on September 20, 2005, 10:36:50 PM Anything else people want to recommend for DVD? Home Movies, season two. One of the funniest fucking shows ever, in my opinion. Definitely has its own humor style, though, so ymmv. But I love it. I couldn't last 30 seconds watching it. It truly is a ymmv type show. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on September 21, 2005, 12:33:32 AM Home Movies is cool. I love Dr. Katz. My friend has digital cable (I don't anymore) and they had an old episode of Dr. Katz on, it was hilarious as always. I don't think Dr. Katz is on DVD though.
(I check the internet) It looks like you can get some bootleg type deals but no official DVD release. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on September 21, 2005, 12:44:24 AM It's just hilarious.
"What were you saying earlier Brendan?" "Um, this meatloaf is dry." "No, before that." "This is meatloaf?" "Before that." "This fish is dry." Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Viin on September 21, 2005, 11:23:17 AM Home Movies is awesome!
You may need to watch a couple of episodes to get into it, but it really is very funny. Just rent one or two of the discs from Netflix (http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70018191&trkid=181026). Of course, there's plenty of other TV shows on DVD that are good: Wonderfalls, Band of Brothers (basically all of the HBO series'), any of the Adult Swim shows (Space Ghost Coast to Coast, Sealab 2021, etc), plus all the shows throughout this and other tv show threads. Most of them have at least one season out on disc now. If you don't want to rent any I'd recommend at least downloading a torrent or two to check them out. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Jacob0883 on September 21, 2005, 11:56:37 AM A good block of TV is Sunday night on fox. You have the Simpsons(meh), The War at Home(DAMN FUNNY), Family Guy, and American Dad. It does get in the way of football though :(.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on September 21, 2005, 12:19:31 PM The season premiere of Arrested Development was fucking hysterical. I think they had more double entendres in one episode than any other comedy does in a season.
Michael's conversation with his mother about the cabin- Michael - You should take a date up there Mother- Who would want to go to that musty old claptrap? Michael- ... Michael- ... Michael- Oh! The cabin...not sure anyone would want to go there either. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on September 21, 2005, 02:37:13 PM I've always liked Arrested Development, but since I'm usually on the computer while watching TV it makes it hard to appreciate- it's very fast paced and hard to find teh funneh if you're not focused on it.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on September 21, 2005, 02:52:45 PM TiVo, baby. It is the only way to watch AD- you can pause it while you are laughing your guts out, then rewind to see if you missed anything (and I usually do).
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on September 21, 2005, 05:20:04 PM I've seen most of the Adult Swim Sunday block. Loved Sealab until they lost Murphy. Really took the heart and soul out of the show. I've always thought Birdman was a bit variable in quality, and I generally dislike the new batch of shows(Tom goes to the Mayor, Stroker and Hoop, etc.)
I used to watch Home Movies every Sunday. Great show. Not laugh out loud funny for me, but more generally amusing and entertaining, even to watch again. It peaked with the Renaissance Fair episode for me, before veering off into unfunny land. I've also caught most of the HBO series. Never been a big fan of the comedies though. Kind of having a tough time getting into Rome. In HBO style, their going overboard with the violence/sex thing to generate buzz and get people hooked into the drama. Think Deadwood and the obessive overuse of cocksucker/cunt/all the other "very bad" profanities season one, while season two moved towards high drama and political maneuvering. I'd prefer to move directly to the drama, and skip another scene of some character drawing a crude phallus or seeing the slutty aristocrat sleep with another guy. Seriously. I have the pay channels, and if I wanted to watch soft core porn, I'd watch soft core porn. As a good tip, if you don't believe in torrent and don't want to pay $100 for a boxed set: The History Channel seems to have a recurring slot for (mostly unedited) Band of Brothers. I watched the series last fall, and it was airing again this summer. Very solid series. I've heard Good Things (TM) about Wonderfalls, and have been meaning to pick up the DVD set. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on September 21, 2005, 06:55:31 PM I was watching Adult Swim the other day, and I could have sworn they said there were new episodes of Tom goes to the Mayor coming out soon.
But that just can't be. Noone could possibly consider - even for the smallest fraction of a second - broadcasting more episodes of this show on television. Even Uwe Boll would take a steaming shit on this show. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on September 21, 2005, 07:31:48 PM Tom Goes To The Mayor is genius compared to 12 Oz. Mouse. I thought I knew shit before. I knew nothing.
Another Home Movies quote: "Brendan. I know you're using drugs." "I'm not using drugs, Coach." "See you said you aren't, that means you are." "No it means I'm not, that's why I said that." 'No, denial is one of the first signs of addiction." "Kinda like 'he who smelt it dealt it'?" "I don't know from poetry, Brendan." Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on September 21, 2005, 08:24:02 PM I've never been a fan of HBO shows, because I find a lot of it is "hey, we're on HBO, so we can do THIS!"
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Fabricated on September 21, 2005, 11:07:45 PM I was watching Adult Swim the other day, and I could have sworn they said there were new episodes of Tom goes to the Mayor coming out soon. I say this whenever anyone brings up Tom Goes to the Mayor.But that just can't be. Noone could possibly consider - even for the smallest fraction of a second - broadcasting more episodes of this show on television. Even Uwe Boll would take a steaming shit on this show. How bad does a show have to be for Tenacious D not to be able to save it? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on September 22, 2005, 08:56:50 AM But that just can't be. Noone could possibly consider - even for the smallest fraction of a second - broadcasting more episodes of this show on television. Even Uwe Boll would take a steaming shit on this show. See, I agree, but my wife likes it. I just look at it and stare, absolutely uncomprehending how anyone can think it's funny, or how any executive can think it's worth airing. But yean, 12 oz. Mouse... that was just total and complete shit. It was like the worst animator in the world took a dump on cells and smeared himself with it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on September 22, 2005, 11:57:45 AM Made almost entirely by one of the creators of Aqua Teen. There were, if I remember correctly, two creators. So I guess we know now which one was the funny and talented one.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on October 04, 2005, 11:06:08 AM Arrested Development once again proved it is easily the funniest thing on TV right now. Tobias's business card made me pause the TiVo and laugh for nearly a full minute. GOD I love this show.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 04, 2005, 12:28:24 PM seconded.
I giggle every time I think about Gob's song for his Steve Holt. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: TheWalrus on October 04, 2005, 11:30:07 PM It's absolutely mindless setup comedy, but I've been watching My Name is Earl. The karma thing..endless possibilities with that one. Plus, the evil ex wife gets whats comin to her more than once per show.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on October 05, 2005, 06:24:26 AM HDNet's World Report is a great show. Lately they've been focusing on New Orleans, three weeks of shows in a row, with footage you won't see anywhere else on tv. Great stuff...but very depressing. First week was mostly the superdome people, second week was the search for bodies...err...survivors (by the fuggin' DEA, no less!), this week was the devastation as people trickle back and find their home in the neighbor's yard, another house in their yard. French Quarter looks great, though. But the overall chaos reminds me how close we are to anarchy every day, I experienced the Rodney King riots in LA and they were just a sampling of what people can sink to so easily.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Surlyboi on October 05, 2005, 07:13:20 AM My list:
Battlestar Galactica. That last episode Kicked. My. Ass. House. Lost. (Though this season has been meh so far) Oh, and Kari Whurer is currently on the soap opera General Hospital. Still hot. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Pococurante on October 05, 2005, 08:07:01 AM Most recent Medium (sanitarium) had a very cool premise & plot twist. And confirms the entire family is pa-sigh-kik.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on October 05, 2005, 08:40:18 AM It's absolutely mindless setup comedy, but I've been watching My Name is Earl. The karma thing..endless possibilities with that one. Plus, the evil ex wife gets whats comin to her more than once per show. I usually watch House, but since the playoffs are on I watched Earl last night. That show is hilarious, and I hope it does well so I can catch reruns later this year. It's not over the top and it's not as subtle as Arrested Development, which is also damned funny. I couldn't stomach a whole episode of "the Office" however. It's trying too hard to be Office Space and the British sitcom it's based off of at the same time, IMO. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Pococurante on October 05, 2005, 08:49:42 AM Carrell ruins Office for me. I've never found him even the slightest bit funny.
Earl rocks - a sitcom version of Raising Arizona. "circular". Still kills me after all these years... (http://www.homevideos.com/freezeframes44/raisingAR126-b.jpg) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Surlyboi on October 05, 2005, 08:55:29 AM Carrell isn't the right kind of funny for the Office.
40-Year-Old Virgin on the other hand, cracked my shit up. And I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but if My Name is Earl is truly like a TV version of Raising Arizona, I'm so there. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on October 05, 2005, 09:41:45 AM My Name is Earl is fucking funny as hell. Meanwhile, I also love the American version of The Office, as I think it's just perfect. I never watched much of the British version myself, so maybe that's why I like it. That and I think Carrell is hilarious.
Also, if you liked the Office in Britain, check out Extras, the new show by the Office creator, Rick Gervais. The first episode was just a scream. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on October 05, 2005, 09:59:00 AM Currently watching:
Veronica Mars - had a couple problems with the first episode this season, but that mostly stems from it being written to bring in more viewers. Still, great writing, clever humor, and good acting. Rome: It's Rome! It's got a lot of war, boobs, and Roman type things. Good show. Moves a tad slow at times. Gilmore Girls: well written, well acted. YES I WATCH GILMORE GIRLS. Lost: First episode this season: yay, back to plot progression. Second episode: ended where first ended. GRRRRRRRRRRR. Family Guy: still funny! Battlestar Galactica: watch the first season DVD. TIVO'ing the second season as I watch. Umm, wow. This show is REALLY FUCKING GOOD. Best scifi ever? So far I'd say yes. Currently on TIVO and will get to it soon: Arrested Development Curb Your Enthusiasm Extras I watch too much TV. There's a lot out there I kind of want to watch but either missed the start of the show or just don't feel like getting into more shows. Wife's still trying to pull me into Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy. I am resisting so far. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Pococurante on October 05, 2005, 10:02:05 AM Wife's still trying to pull me into Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy. I am resisting so far. Don't let this happen to you... ;) (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=54421) (http://image.sportsmansguide.com/image/4/4948m2.JPG) "No two are alike". See ladies... Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Surlyboi on October 05, 2005, 10:09:59 AM I actually like Grey's Anatomy. The writing's pretty decent. I wouldn't touch Desperate Housewives with a 39-and-a-half-foot pole though.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 05, 2005, 10:41:06 AM I thought Earl was completely vapid, a terribly executed ripoff of Raising Arizona. British version of the Office is way better, but American version is aight. Carrell does a fine job of playing a completely inappropriate douchebag. That Kitchen Confidential show is pretty good, but I just think that kid from Freaks and Geeks is adorable, and I'm glad he's working. But despite my generic enjoyment of models, Jaime King's is a face I just wanna fuck up. More than it already is. And I'm glad that Anthony Bourdain's moneyhat is getting bigger.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on October 05, 2005, 11:08:40 AM My problem with Kitchen Confidential is that is moves too fast. The show deserves an hour a week. But then, I worked in restaurants for a number of years and know there's plenty more stories you can do besides what came out of Bourdain's life. Other than that complaint, I enjoy it very much.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on October 05, 2005, 11:55:40 AM Is Kitchen Confidential the show where the kid lost his eyebrows, and John Larroquette died? It looked like some other show but set in a kitchen. I just can't think of which show, because it is probably several shows from the past fifteen years, but in a kitchen.
Battlestar Galactica is better than most non-sci-fi shows. House was good the first time I saw it. The second episode was the same as the first episode except they replaced some nouns and adjectives, and perhaps kicked it up a notch. The n00bz didn't learn anything, either. "No, he doesn't have XXX, he would have YYY symptoms, you dumbass interns! YOU CALL YOURSELF DOCTORS?!?!" I have joined my wife in watching Supernatural, which is like Kolchak the Nightstalker played out in an American Eagle catalog. It's not uninteresting, and beats having no X-Files. I try to watch something historical afterward, since they often have a sepia tint that counteracts the blue filter I just stared at. Quinn and White Debbie can't carry Sealab by themselves. Waiting for Venture Bros. to come back. That is one fine show. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on October 05, 2005, 05:57:37 PM Venture Bros. is a great show, with amazing character depth. It could have easily slipped into the Simpsons/Family Guy two dimensional characters thrown into a wacky situation every week. As far as animated shows go, I think this is why South Park has had such legs.
I'm not saying I don't like Simpsons or Family Guy.... I just think they rely too heavily on a "wierd situation of the week" formula while keeping their characters essentially static. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Surlyboi on October 07, 2005, 12:13:16 AM Venture Brothers is so awesome because even the throwaway characters are cool. Manic Eightball? Girl Hitler? They lasted all of three minutes and they were still memorable.
Don't get me started on the episode that started out with all Bowie lyrics. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Jacob0883 on October 07, 2005, 04:49:52 AM I saw Robot Chicken for the first time last night and that show was pretty damn funny too.
When are the venture brothers on, and are they on cartoon network? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Surlyboi on October 07, 2005, 06:23:59 AM Cartoon Network, Sunday at 1AM
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on October 07, 2005, 08:33:02 AM Don't get me started on the episode that started out with all Bowie lyrics. [paraphrased, from memory] "Ah, yes, the panda. Won it from David Bowie in a trivia contest in 1982. That was before it caught on, but Bowie always was a trendsetter." Favorite throwaway character: Catclops. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on October 07, 2005, 09:25:22 AM I love the Fantastic Four ripoffs the Impossibles on Venture Bros. Watching the Thing being turned into a walking callus and the Human Torch running around screaming "YOU BASTARD" as he burns in contact with the air is just satisfying.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on October 07, 2005, 09:43:59 AM "There's a reason Ned's shoes have Velcro..."
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 07, 2005, 10:15:38 AM I've been enjoying Everybody HAtes Chris a lot. Funny stuff.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on October 10, 2005, 12:10:44 AM Rome is quickly becoming my favorite HBO show of all time. Aside from the 'Oz' moment last week, I've been liking it even more than Deadwood, but that's probably because I've always been intersted in ancient Roman history.
BSG really was good, but it just seemed slow. I didn't really start getting into it until the last 2 episodes or so. Sucks that the second half of the season isn't airing for a few months. Still the best sci-fi tv show ever. I'm still watching Lost, but interest is waning. It's all misdirection and flashbacks, and I'm still waiting for some sort of story to emerge. If this season doesn't deliver some serious answers, I'm out. Rescue Me, Starved, and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia were all worth watching. F/X just has a ton of shows I like. I was hoping that The Lonely Island troupe would make SNL bearable to watch again, if not somewhat amusing. I should have known better. I think putting Horatio Sans on Weekend Update was some disgruntled execs way to see how much shit he could get the viewers to eat. Maybe since he's behind a desk, Lorne Michaels can strap some testicle clamps to his scrotum, and pump some amps into that can't-keep-a-straight-face fuck to help him get through his lines. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 10, 2005, 01:11:33 AM Funny...I used to watch more TV in the past, when I just had cable. But now that I've had Dish for 3 or so years, and 100+ (or maybe 200?) channels, I don't watch much of anything. As much as I like Western stuff, I've only seen a couple of episodes of Deadwood. And as far as the rest of HBO's shows go, I only saw like the first 3 seasons of the Sopranos. No 6 Feet Under, Carnival, Band of Brothers, Rome, or whatever. I watch Bill Maher every now and then, but that's about it. The very sight of "Entourage" pisses me off. For some reason.
As far as other non HBO shows go, I love the Venture Bros. and ATHF....But I haven't watched those in months. I usually stick with at least the second half season of the NBA and try not to miss good fights (boxing and otherwise).....But for most part, I'm wasting money for even having so many channels. Most of my TV use goes towards DVD's/films (and even then, I prefer a theater if possible). Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on October 10, 2005, 11:57:39 AM Rome is quickly becoming my favorite HBO show of all time. Aside from the 'Oz' moment last week, I've been liking it even more than Deadwood, but that's probably because I've always been intersted in ancient Roman history. And to add even more to the greatness of the show: lesbians! And next week is Egypt and a horny Cleopatra. It just keeps getting better. (btw, what 'Oz' moment?) Quote I was hoping that The Lonely Island troupe would make SNL bearable to watch again, if not somewhat amusing. I should have known better. I think putting Horatio Sans on Weekend Update was some disgruntled execs way to see how much shit he could get the viewers to eat. Maybe since he's behind a desk, Lorne Michaels can strap some testicle clamps to his scrotum, and pump some amps into that can't-keep-a-straight-face fuck to help him get through his lines. People still watch SNL? Eek. I think Chris Kattan killed that show for me. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on October 10, 2005, 12:12:21 PM Quote People still watch SNL? Eek. I think Chris Kattan killed that show for me. I had it on in the background while I was playing Bf2 over the weekend. Wow, it really sucks. I mean REALLY. I think I cracked a smile at one Weekend Update joke. The rest was a vast wasteland of totally unfunny skits that went on for painfully interminable periods. This cast may actually kill off the show for good. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Bunk on October 10, 2005, 01:07:54 PM Rome is quickly becoming my favorite HBO show of all time. Aside from the 'Oz' moment last week, I've been liking it even more than Deadwood, but that's probably because I've always been intersted in ancient Roman history. And to add even more to the greatness of the show: lesbians! And next week is Egypt and a horny Cleopatra. It just keeps getting better. (btw, what 'Oz' moment?) I'm just curious as to how long they plan to run the series. They can't really carry it beyond the Fall of Caeser can they? The lesbian scene this week made up for the unneccesarily long shots of the slave with the bejewelled wang last week. It's my favorite current show on TV, by the way. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on October 10, 2005, 01:52:16 PM I'm just curious as to how long they plan to run the series. They can't really carry it beyond the Fall of Caeser can they? The lesbian scene this week made up for the unneccesarily long shots of the slave with the bejewelled wang last week. It's my favorite current show on TV, by the way. The wang, in its defense, did produce one of the most humorous lines delivered so far in the show, "A large penis is always welcome." I believe the series run is going to be 10 episodes for this season. I'd imagine it can be carried on for a while, but probably not long enough to put Octavian on the throne. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on October 10, 2005, 02:00:41 PM I had it on in the background while I was playing Bf2 over the weekend. Wow, it really sucks. I mean REALLY. I think I cracked a smile at one Weekend Update joke. The rest was a vast wasteland of totally unfunny skits that went on for painfully interminable periods. This cast may actually kill off the show for good. If it hasn't died yet, I think not even Ted McGinley could kill it at this point. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on October 10, 2005, 03:28:11 PM (btw, what 'Oz' moment?) I refer to all the phlacid schlong scenes. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on October 14, 2005, 02:50:01 AM Last night I managed to catch the House episode with Carmen Electra in it.
What a fantastic episode. I have to say, once again, that this is one of my favourite shows at the moment. Hugh Laurie puts in a consistantly brilliant performance. I love the style of it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on October 14, 2005, 05:24:59 AM Having watched the first 3 episodes of both seasons of House - I can confidently say it's the best show on TV. No one gives a damn but Hugh Laurie is more than I ever gave him credit for - good shit. Probably the best shit I've seen in years.
Right now my TV schedule consists of Smallville, House (in LARGE doses, I'll probably watch the rest of season 1 by tomorrow), Supernatural, Criminal Minds, E-Ring, Grey's Anatomy, My Name is Earl, Alias, and an episode of Numb3rs here and there. I don't watch TV like a normal human being though. I'll block out about 6-8 hours in one day of a week. The rest of the weeks awesome time is spent by playing games (if you've ever wondered how I play so many games and don't review that many - that's why. I'm too busy playing them). Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 10:27:36 AM I think CYE is the best show on television. I've never even heard of Rescue Me. House? Is that show really good? The guy starring in that show has a permanent "holy shit I can't believe they gave me my own show" look. I can never really get into TV drama, saying that probably makes me lose all credibility in this thread, but I think comedy is better suited to the medium.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 10:31:42 AM The rest of the weeks awesome time is spent by playing games (if you've ever wondered how I play so many games and don't review that many - that's why. I'm too busy playing them). Do you have a job? Holy shit dude it took me like 3 weeks to beat Super Mario RPG on my Xbox last year, and you just consume media at a breakneck pace. Do you sleep? God? Why are we here? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 14, 2005, 10:33:57 AM Since when is a Mario game on the X-Box?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on October 14, 2005, 10:34:45 AM The rest of the weeks awesome time is spent by playing games (if you've ever wondered how I play so many games and don't review that many - that's why. I'm too busy playing them). Do you have a job? Holy shit dude it took me like 3 weeks to beat Super Mario RPG on my Xbox last year, and you just consume media at a breakneck pace. Do you sleep? God? Why are we here? You are my playthings. I didn't sleep last night. But I'm on episode 9 of season 1 of House. W00t. Later today? Digital Devil Saga 2 and the final case or so on Phoenix Wright. Edit: Voodoo - it's called a modded xbox. There are other places for information on it. But he's playing it in an emulator. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 10:41:43 AM I want to be with you.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: El Gallo on October 14, 2005, 10:47:43 AM Curb Your Enthusiasm continues to deliver the funny to my living room in large quantities and on a regular basis (at least until I run out of back episodes to watch). I didn't like Seinfeld, but Larry David is the man.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 14, 2005, 10:49:10 AM I didn't like Seinfeld, but Larry David is the man. Umm....That's why people watched it for George (and Puddy too). :-D Well, at least I did. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 14, 2005, 11:07:42 AM Over the last few years of watching reruns I've begun to experience feelings of violence and loathing every time I hear any of their voices. I still really like Julia Louise Dreyfus (she was awesome on Arrested Development), but George and Seinfeld make me stabby. Kramer is still awesome though.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 11:50:20 AM I don't see how someone could like Kramer more than George, Jerry, or Elayne. What the fuck? He's the nutty, quirky, "action" character. He's one dimensional and relies on physical gags. Having said that, of course he's funny. But do you know what they call a show with nothing but Kramer? The Three Stooges.
Also, how the hell do you rationalize liking CYE but hating Seinfeld? For me it's just the reverse. I fucking loved Seinfeld, and then seeing CYE sort of tainted Seinfeld for me, because George is clearly just a weak parody of Larry. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on October 14, 2005, 11:56:00 AM Quote I don't see how someone could like Kramer more than George, Jerry, or Elayne. What the fuck? He's the nutty, quirky, "action" character. He's one dimensional and relies on physical gags. Having said that, of course he's funny. But do you know what they call a show with nothing but Kramer? The Three Stooges. Amen. That's exactly why.I always hated Jerry, the whiny bastard. The rest of them were good in their comedic acting and physical presence, but Jerry was just so BAD, his delivery sucked ass and he can't act. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 14, 2005, 11:57:37 AM Also, how the hell do you rationalize liking CYE but hating Seinfeld? For me it's just the reverse. I fucking loved Seinfeld, and then seeing CYE sort of tainted Seinfeld for me, because George is clearly just a weak parody of Larry. Actually, all of the Seinfeld characters are parodies of Larry David. The only real distinction is Seinfeld's trite "did you ever notice.." schtick was the reason for calling the show "Seinfeld" instead of "Larry David's Anal-Retentive Stereotypical New York Jew Personality Traits". Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 14, 2005, 11:58:01 AM The Three Stooges are the shit though.
I can admire Kramer for being one of the only guy's around these days who pull off a little slapstick (nothing like Stooges/Kramer/Chaplin/Sellers though). Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on October 14, 2005, 11:58:48 AM I always hated Jerry, the whiny bastard. The rest of them were good in their comedic acting and physical presence, but Jerry was just so BAD, his delivery sucked ass and he can't act. Ever seen those people in interviews. Very little acting outside of Kramer as one of his "personalities" ever happened. Also, his delivery sucked ass? I'm sorry to say that nearly every comedian in that industry would correct you as well as an entire major religion. The guy has timing with the best of him. The worst someone can really accuse him of is being nasal and profound. But then you have to ask if that person likes Weird Al Yankovic, and if he/she does, not liking Seinfeld is just to be different. Edit: Voodoo - Kramer was not based on Larry David. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 14, 2005, 12:00:39 PM I know, I just tend to leave Kramer out of "why I dislike Seinfeld", so I forgot to say "everyone except Kramer", who I understand is a real person.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 12:09:35 PM I always hated Jerry, the whiny bastard. The rest of them were good in their comedic acting and physical presence, but Jerry was just so BAD, his delivery sucked ass and he can't act. Also, his delivery sucked ass? I'm sorry to say that nearly every comedian in that industry would correct you as well as an entire major religion. The guy has timing with the best of him. The worst someone can really accuse him of is being nasal and profound. But then you have to ask if that person likes Weird Al Yankovic, and if he/she does, not liking Seinfeld is just to be different. Edit: Voodoo - Kramer was not based on Larry David. For real. Seinfeld isn't really based on Larry David. Neither is Elayne. Elayne wasn't originally going to be in the show, until NBC execs were like "you need a female presence." Seinfeld provides a neccessary interplay with George, and a foil against the incessant scheming and pyschopathery. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 14, 2005, 12:14:56 PM Wait...
Are some people confused here? I didn't get that at first. Of course, Seinfeld isn't based on Larry David. He's based on...Seinfeld. He and Larry David were both the creators and writers of the show. George Castanza is based on Larry David. Cosmo Kramer is based on their mutual friend Kenny Kramer. The real Kramer is loony, but not in the same sense. Michael Richards is doing the same act that he's been doing long before the show came out. Elaine was actually an afterthought. She isn't anything but Julia Louis Dreyfus' creation (portrayal wise). Puddy is actually the funniest person on the show though. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 12:15:43 PM Jesus, it's so unnerving to find people who don't like Seinfeld. All this time I was convinced that it was the greatest comedy to ever air on network television.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 14, 2005, 12:31:30 PM I used to LOVE it. I'd race home from my night class every Thursday to see it. But now I'm just so over it. Everything that was funny then is now just a cheese grater on my skin.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 14, 2005, 12:34:16 PM I bet you'd still laugh....On WEED.
[edit] :roll: :-P Not sure which. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 14, 2005, 12:45:46 PM Today is too much caffiene day btw. I'm manic as hell. I'm LOL'ing at my own lame jokes (or rather, lame movie references).
For the time being, I'm funnier than Seinfeld. In my own mind. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 12:49:34 PM No, I laughed at that comment. I only felt the need to tell you about it after you started evincing desperation and uncertainty about it though.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 14, 2005, 12:57:34 PM No, I laughed at that comment. I only felt the need to tell you about it after you started evincing desperation and uncertainty about it though. You are much, much funnier than I am. :cry: Thanks Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 01:01:07 PM I'll be out of material before I hit 60 posts. Then we'll be equals.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on October 14, 2005, 01:42:02 PM Jesus, it's so unnerving to find people who don't like Seinfeld. All this time I was convinced that it was the greatest comedy to ever air on network television. Said my piece on Seingfeld ages ago. I don't find it funny. I've never found a single episode even remotely smile worthy. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 01:44:55 PM We'd hate each other ferociously in real life. And maybe, with time, on the internet as well.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Fabricated on October 14, 2005, 02:30:59 PM Seinfeld is one of the worst, most overrated shows ever to befoul TV and fuck up what producers believe people will laugh at ever.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on October 14, 2005, 02:32:00 PM I :heart: Seinfeld. Even though I can recite nearly every episode verbatim, I still think it is hilarious. My fav secondary character was always Jackie Chiles. He fucking ruled.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2005, 06:16:39 PM Seinfeld is one of the worst, most overrated shows ever to befoul TV and fuck up what producers believe people will laugh at ever. I'm really curious what you would consider a "good" network television comedy? I'm already laughing at your response. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Fabricated on October 14, 2005, 07:23:09 PM Seinfeld is one of the worst, most overrated shows ever to befoul TV and fuck up what producers believe people will laugh at ever. I'm really curious what you would consider a "good" network television comedy? I'm already laughing at your response.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on October 14, 2005, 10:10:59 PM Seinfeld is not for everyone, but you have to give it credit for being different from the sea of similar-minded sitcoms.
I think it helps a lot if you are from a blue state. Definitely not a red state kind of show. How can you not find "anyone can just take a reservation - it's the *holding* that makes the reservation..." funny as hell? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on October 14, 2005, 10:15:46 PM Seinfeld is the only shitcom that I've ever found funny. Most just take their best shot at bludgeoning your intellect into the ground. Could be worse, could be reality TV. Now there's a genre that needs to result in several TV execs being ripped apart by enraged monkeys.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on October 15, 2005, 05:51:45 AM We'd hate each other ferociously in real life. And maybe, with time, on the internet as well. I doubt that a lot. As for 'Red' and 'Blue' states. What the fuck ? Where does the rest of the world fit in ? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Triforcer on October 15, 2005, 10:12:14 AM We'd hate each other ferociously in real life. And maybe, with time, on the internet as well. I doubt that a lot. As for 'Red' and 'Blue' states. What the fuck ? Where does the rest of the world fit in ? Its one big blue state. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on October 15, 2005, 09:34:57 PM As for 'Red' and 'Blue' states. What the fuck ? Where does the rest of the world fit in ? I doubt if the humor in Seinfeld is very cross-cultural. It's a show for people on the US coasts. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on October 16, 2005, 09:34:11 AM As for 'Red' and 'Blue' states. What the fuck ? Where does the rest of the world fit in ? I doubt if the humor in Seinfeld is very cross-cultural. It's a show for people on the US coasts. There was a comment by Larry David or someone where he said they managed to take a jab at about 100 cultures throughout the shows life. And there were a bunch of episodes ragging on middle America. It wasn't just for the people on the coast, it was only for people on the coasts. And Puerto Ricans. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: dusematic on October 16, 2005, 05:41:03 PM Humor is always a difficult cross-cultural transfer. Roman humor is weird and I never get it. English humor is weird and sometimes I get it (The Office). That said Seinfeld has aired all over the world.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Abagadro on October 16, 2005, 09:46:13 PM I defy anyone to watch The Contest and not laugh. Seinfeld was wildly uneven, but most of the shows in seasons 2-4 are pretty good.
BTW, I hope you are all watching Extras on HBO. It is hilarious. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Bunk on October 17, 2005, 10:22:30 AM Watching Seinfeld was like playing Keno. Every once in a while you'd hit on "The Contest" or the Marine Biologist/golfball reveal, or Shrinkage, and it made you forget about the last half dozen times you didn't win.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on October 17, 2005, 11:39:48 AM I defy anyone to watch The Contest and not laugh. Seinfeld was wildly uneven, but most of the shows in seasons 2-4 are pretty good. BTW, I hope you are all watching Extras on HBO. It is hilarious. I saw a trailer for it after CYE last week and had TiVo grab an episode for me. Haven't seen it yet, but it looks promising. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on October 17, 2005, 07:52:59 PM So. I got the season 1 box set of Arrested Development. It's funny, but the handicam shake is really really really really fucking annoying.
Lars Von Trier is one to be shunned, not imitated. Also, David Cross. Not very funny anymore. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 17, 2005, 11:35:24 PM Also, David Cross. Not very funny anymore. What?! I mean, What did he do? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on October 17, 2005, 11:49:55 PM (http://the-op.com/images/episode/303/000051_sm.jpg)
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on October 17, 2005, 11:52:31 PM I'm just curious as to how long they plan to run the series. They can't really carry it beyond the Fall of Caeser can they? I dunno, I heard that Octavian kid was kinda important :) I'm guessing the first season will stop shortly after Ceasar's death. That leaves Rome being split between Octavian and Antony, Antony's affair with Cleopatra, the killing of Ciscero/Brutus, the return of Pompey's son, and Octavian becoming Emporer. I don't think the question here is if there's a good story, but how Pullo and Verenus fit into it and maybe later seasons, since the show focuses heavily on them. I'm not sure where a third season would go, though. Does it stay with Augustus until his death? Even then, you'd be hard pressed to keep Pullo and Verenus in for long. Do they go onto Tiberius, a relatively unknown Emporer? Maybe you jump to Nero, and get into that Jesus thang, or wrap it up with Constantine, probably the 3rd most recognized Roman ruler? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on October 18, 2005, 12:44:03 AM Ack, spoilers? Ceasar dies? :-P
Anyway, IMO FX is the best channel on TV by a longshot right now. (I don't get HBO, but I have never been a fan of HBO) The Shield, Nip/Tuck, Rescue Me, It's Always Sunny..., Starved and Over There are all good shows. It's pretty amazing given that a couple years ago FX was all bad movies and 6 hours of Fear Factor a day. The shows don't feel dumbed down like network TV shows, but at the same time they don't have stuff just for the sake of having it, which has always been a problem with HBO for me. ("Let's do this because we can!") A good example is Sex and the City. (Sex in? the City?) If you watch the edited versions on TBS, you really aren't missing much from the HBO versions. To me that is the definition of gratuitous sex. (Not that I watch a lot of the TBS or HBO versions, but I have seen a few of each) The R-rated parts of the show add almost nothing to it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 18, 2005, 12:49:18 AM The R-rated parts of the show add almost nothing to it. Except breasts.. :roll: Not that it's a big deal....But y'know, I'm going to have to say that it's better to see titties than not. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on October 18, 2005, 01:22:10 AM Not on any of those four dried up old tit-mares.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on October 18, 2005, 09:25:05 AM Is Nip/Tuck good again? I thought it jumped the shark somewhere in early season 2 or perhaps even late season 1. The whole thing with Matt and his life coach was just stupid. I've been meaning to watch the Shield for a time now (probably too late to start TIVOing it) and with Recue Me.. I just don't find firefighters interesting.
HBO for me is great but I just wish we didn't have to wait so long between show runs. It's killing me waiting for the new Sopranos and especially Deadwood. Here's just hoping that both shows take their plot progression a bit more seriously this time. Sopranos Deadwood Rome Curb Your Enthusiasm Extras Entourage (actually good now) Personally, I like watching a network where people can swear, tits can be shown, and folks die gruesome, horrible deaths (I hear they do this on network TV too). I mean hell, Deadwood brought the term cocksucker back into the modern vernacular. A lot of the nudity shown may be gratuitous but at least the shows, IMO, aren't being all gunshy over showing a boob or butt while at the same time showing some guy take a gun shot to the forehead. Network TV sex scenes are pretty much a joke,\; what woman really makes a conscious effort to cover up her boobs during sex? (Aside: Battlestar Gallactica has done some of the best PG-13 sex scenes I've seen from any show) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Nevermore on October 18, 2005, 09:42:30 AM F/X has been rerunning the Shield from the start of season one on Saturdays, 3 episodes at a time. I think it's 3 or 4 weeks in now, so they're about halfway through the first season. I had no idea F/X was going to do that, but luckily my TiVo is smarter than I am and grabbed them anyway.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 18, 2005, 11:13:21 AM Reason why voodoolily hates sports #425:
Haven't been able to watch AD, Kitchen Confidential or the OC for two weeks. Fucking baseball. Why do they start sporting events three weeks after the fall lineup begins? voodoolily angry! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on October 18, 2005, 11:42:05 AM Also, David Cross. Not very funny anymore. There must be some dumbass in your sesame cakes. Unless you have just been watching WAAAAAY too much Cross? Is that even possible? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 18, 2005, 11:45:30 AM Seconded.
Edit: meaning there is no way David Cross could be unfunny. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 18, 2005, 12:02:12 PM Edit: meaning there is no way David Cross could be unfunny. Never watched Arrested Development (Just Mr. Show and his standup act), but yeah, this is what I was getting at. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on October 18, 2005, 12:16:15 PM Too much David Cross can get annoying, since he is just so fucking strange sometimes. AD spoons him out in perfect servings.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 18, 2005, 12:21:28 PM We listened to Shut up You Fucking Baby on the drive home from Seattle. It was perfect.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on October 18, 2005, 12:53:30 PM See, I liked Seinfeld but couldn't make it through one episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm (the one with the sandwich named after Larry David). Maybe it was his 'acting' or maybe I just didn't like the show. Maybe it's because I don't know any Jewish people other than the stereotypes they show on TV or schild, who is like no Jew on television I've ever seen.
As for Seinfeld's standup, it's decent but I never thought it was incredibly funny or profound. Watching "Comedian" was interesting though. EDIT: As for Rome, yeah, really good, though I thought the lesbo sex scene was kind of done just for the sake of doing it. Or for the sake of showing that the Romans weren't so goddamn Puritanical/Victorian in their views on sex and sexual preferences. Either way, lesbos good. Definitely made up for the ginormous johnson of the previous week. I think they have plenty of material for 2 or 3 good seasons of Rome, depending on where they choose to end Season 1. If it's with Caesar's death, then 3 would be about all you could do. If not, there's plenty of grist for that mill. The only disappointment I had with the last episode of Rome (not this past Sunday's, the one before) was that they didn't have a great big battle scene. But I suppose that's too pricey for TV. Extras has been quite funny. I never watched the British version of the Office much, but the way he does uncomfortable situations is quite good. It's like a Brit George Costanza. Kate Winslet talking about the purple-headed womb ferret was just a classic line. Womb ferret. Heh. My Name is Earl is also comedy gold, especially paired with the US version of The Office. I also Tivoed but haven't watched the Colbert Report from last night. Any early reviews? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on October 18, 2005, 02:17:55 PM RE: Colbert Report
Fuck yes. This should be good. He's off to a very strong start. More ranty than the Daily Show, with less factual information. But still goddamn funny. Fantastic parody of O'Reilly at the beginning. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 18, 2005, 03:51:57 PM I also Tivoed but haven't watched the Colbert Report from last night. Any early reviews? His battle with Stone Phillips last night was genius. Good show. But then again, you think My Name is Earl is funny, so you might not get it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on October 18, 2005, 06:19:32 PM Titus Pullo is a fucking riot. He might be up there with Adam Baldwin's Jayne for "loveable amoral bastard" character.
As for the whole "Romans had different ideas about sex and intimacy" bit... blah. Honestly, what we're watching is more "Modern American Collegiate" sexuality than anything classical. Complete with the slutty chick massively compensating for attention/confidence/self-esteem/father-figure issues and lipstick lesbians. Rome has only hinted at, or not mentioned: male/male sexual relationships, man/boy sexual relationships, issues of forced sexual activity between slaves/owners, man/girl marriages, soldiers and rape of conquered peoples, etc. Most of which wasn't particularly uncommon in the time period. Like any other HBO series, Rome is about being racy. Would I want to watch a show that true to life? FUCK NO. I'm just tired of seeing the tagline. It's still good, but I wish they'd drop more of the sex shit unless it's advancing the plot. Pullo and Cleopatra, or Octavian at the brothel, are good examples. Almost ANY seen with Atia is not. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on October 19, 2005, 09:45:37 AM I also Tivoed but haven't watched the Colbert Report from last night. Any early reviews? His battle with Stone Phillips last night was genius. Good show. But then again, you think My Name is Earl is funny, so you might not get it. You watch your mouth. I caught the first Colbert episode this morning and was in fucking hysterics. I GET it. With my heart, damnit. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on October 19, 2005, 11:05:57 AM My favorite part is the eagle swooping in at the intro and The W0rd. That shit is so funny.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Pococurante on October 19, 2005, 12:00:39 PM I liked it.
The show won't last. I was skeptical when I first heard about it some months back - seeing it in action last night just confirmed to me that as funny as Colbert is in doses there is not enough there to build an entire show that lasts multiple seasons. What makes Daily Show work is the team and the politics. Colbert Report is just Colbert riffing lines - better to add him to a lineup of standups. Stone gets massive props for being a good sport. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on October 19, 2005, 12:12:37 PM (http://home.comcast.net/~the4thamigo/images/Phil%20Ken%20Sebben.jpg)
"Ha-HA... canceled!" Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on October 19, 2005, 01:00:46 PM I dunno. Colbert seems to have an endless well of funny in him. Plus it's not like they throw him in a room and say "Come up with tonight's show." He's got writers just like the Daily Show does, I'm sure.
If there's a show on the way to the "cancelled" bin, it's Adam Carolla's. He can be pretty funny on the radio, but he really needs someone there to bounce his rants off, someone to respond, because it's just not funny with him sitting in a chair talking about stupid shit. The calls he takes seem to be from idiots, and it really feels like he goes out onto the stage each night with a scribbled note pad of what he's going to talk about: "-Foreign guys at gas station -Red arrows for left turn Looks like a half hour of material to me." Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on October 19, 2005, 02:28:14 PM I dunno. Colbert seems to have an endless well of funny in him. Plus it's not like they throw him in a room and say "Come up with tonight's show." He's got writers just like the Daily Show does, I'm sure. I'd rather see more "Strangers with Candy". Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on October 19, 2005, 05:37:28 PM Oh, RE this week's Nip / Tuck
OMG THE DRAMA STINGS MY EYES AND MAKES ME BEG FOR MORE The show is so unbelievable it's ridiculous, but I can't help but keep watching and totally buying into all the drama. I don't know why it works,but it does. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on October 19, 2005, 05:39:37 PM I need to see the second season of Nip/Tuck. I bought it on a whim. Was impressed. Forgot about it.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on October 19, 2005, 09:12:08 PM As I told my friend the other day, Nip/Tuck is good despite the plots, not because of them. The melodrama just never stops. There is Darth-Luke "I am your father" moment basically every espisode.
I would say the best thing is all the actors are good and the characters are believable, even though the situations they are in rarely are. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on October 31, 2005, 12:00:57 AM Just caught the premier of Lucy, The Daughter of the Devil on Adult Swim.
Done mostly by Loren Bouchard, one of the co-creators of Home Movies. And I have to say, very similar comedic style. I really enjoyed it. H. Jon Benjamin (aka Coach McGuirk) is the Devil, and he continues to prove that there is no limit to how dry a delivery can be. I thought Brendon Small was more involved with it, from watching it, but I didn't see his name in the credits. It seemed that the voice of Lucy was done by Melissa.. Galsky? However it's spelled. She did the voice of, appropriately enough, Melissa on Home Movies and was also the show's producer. So for a Home Movies fan like me, this is akin to a Second Coming. I'm very happy about it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on October 31, 2005, 01:06:02 AM Except it's a third coming. Don't sleep on Dr. Katz!
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 31, 2005, 01:08:40 AM Katz was the shit. Couldn't get into Home Movies though.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on October 31, 2005, 01:45:21 AM Eh. I don't know if Loren Bouchard or Brendon Small had anything to do with Dr. Katz. It was just the same studio.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on October 31, 2005, 01:55:15 AM Bouchard was creator, writer, producer, director, etc..
And damnit, it had 6 seasons and it can only be found on VHS :oops: Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on November 06, 2005, 11:18:01 PM Watching the Boondocks premier.
This show is fucking hilarious. New sig. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on November 06, 2005, 11:29:01 PM This show is fucking hilarious. Squid Billies, however, is not. I think someone actually created something to top Tom Goes to the Mayor in crappiness. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on November 06, 2005, 11:30:12 PM Bouchard was creator, writer, producer, director, etc.. And damnit, it had 6 seasons and it can only be found on VHS :oops: According to IMDB, he was only a producer. And that's only in his bio, he's not mentioned at all on the Dr. Katz page. Quote Squid Billies, however, is not. I think someone actually created something to top Tom Goes to the Mayor in crappiness. Agreed. Same creator as 12 Oz. Mouse which is worse than both of them combined. 12 Oz. Mouse works off the unfortunate and unreliable principle of "Random shit=funny?" Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on November 07, 2005, 12:29:51 AM Back to Boondocks though...
This looks to be one of the best things Adult Swim has ever produced (I know they didn't create it though)....Except this one is more than mere entertainment (I wouldn't say that ATHF has a "social message" exactly heh). Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 07, 2005, 08:59:08 AM I'm torn between whether to laugh at Squidbillies or turn it off. It's almost funny in that "WHAT THE FUCK" sort of way.
12 oz. Mouse is just not. I can envision no scenario where I actually laugh at that show. It's like the scribblings of a stoned, ridalin-overdosed 4th grader. I forgot to Tivo the Boondocks and Minoriteam premieres. I was too busy watching the Eagles lay an egg against the Redskins while the announcers jabbered about TO's latest fucktardery. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: naum on November 07, 2005, 10:26:45 AM I fully agree, and it's why the majority of my viewing is the HD channels. Usually far better than the SD content, even though there are about 350 less channels. And a big thing to remember: almost no commercials on a lot of the HD channels. Getting my new DirecTV HD dish + receiver installed tomorrow. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Pococurante on November 08, 2005, 05:46:36 AM I forgot to Tivo (...) Yahoo would like some quality time with your wallet. (http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/biztech/11/07/yahoo.tivo.ap/index.html) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on November 08, 2005, 06:45:16 AM How about that new Carlin special? Man, he's getting fucking dark. Still funny, though.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on November 08, 2005, 07:10:17 AM How about that new Carlin special? Man, he's getting fucking dark. Still funny, though. Yeah....I mean, I poke fun at you for being a little hippy-ish and all, but damn, there's such a thing as being too cynical. Sad too, since he used to be a hippy himself. The man has lost all hope. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on November 08, 2005, 07:17:52 AM I can totally empathize with him. That's me as an old man. The sheer weight of the LCD in america will do that.
My girlfriend is insisting I move out of the ghetto, because I'm exposed to the worst of it daily. I say it centers me, but I'm starting to think she's right. It's hard to imagine the existance of some of these bottom feeding retards sometimes, I can't feel bad about murders in our once murder-free town...when it's all minorities from NYC killing each other. Shit, I cheer 'em on. (not meant to be racist, just the facts) I actually don't see Carlin as cynical, just a realist. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on November 08, 2005, 07:28:23 AM Carlin came of age in a time when people were about social progress and changnig America for the better of all people. Women's Rights, Racial Minority Rights, the ERA and Martin Luther King JR. and he was a Hippie then. It's easy to see how the weight of the conservative backlash and the erosion of the foundation of those social ideals would turn him into a dark, jaded, cynical fucker who just wants everyone to die.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on November 08, 2005, 08:24:53 AM I actually don't see Carlin as cynical, just a realist. Hmm....He actually wants to worsen the world, not just perpetuate it. Suicide TV, for instance.... And More death, more destruction! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Pococurante on November 08, 2005, 08:52:24 AM ... a dark, jaded, cynical fucker who just wants everyone to die. I took my wife to see him in concert earlier this year and I spent most of the time feeling bad for her. Carlin's performance was mainly just gutter, not even particularly witty or insightful, and since he had not yet fully recovered from his health issues he was rougher than usual (as he read the longer routines out of his book currently on sale :roll: ) I had to remind myself by pulling out my older recordings that he's really always been this "bad" - just bad in a way calculated to offend the current sensibilities of the times. The current time being what it is he just has to try harder to shock. The difference is his observational humor is gone - all that's left are the rants. It was always the "you ever notice" kind of lines I loved the most. Not being a stoned fifteen year old anymore it no longer amuses me to see how many times I can fit "twat" and "cunt" into a single run-on sentence. Anyway I finally got a chance to see him perform before he dies. I won't bother again. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 08, 2005, 09:06:56 AM I forgot to Tivo (...) Yahoo would like some quality time with your wallet. (http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/biztech/11/07/yahoo.tivo.ap/index.html) iTunes is now offering downloads of ABC and Disney TV shows. I'm all for that shit. Until they offer it for other stuff, I'll probably just BT the ones I've missed. EDIT: I have the Carlin special on Tivo, just haven't watched it yet. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on November 08, 2005, 09:25:43 AM I actually don't see Carlin as cynical, just a realist. Hmm....He actually wants to worsen the world, not just perpetuate it. Suicide TV, for instance.... And More death, more destruction! Things like lowering the bar in schools so more kids past, no child left behind style shit. But that's for the poilitics forum, a land I do not tread ;) Sorry. Quote The difference is his observational humor is gone - all that's left are the rants. Exactly so.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on November 08, 2005, 09:48:42 AM Anyway I finally got a chance to see him perform before he dies. I won't bother again. I saw him perform in Vegas a number of years ago. I wasn't impressed. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on November 09, 2005, 12:09:50 AM pandemic (to use the modern cool scary word) I love this word. If I remember my etymology correctly, epi- means "global, world". So an epidemic would literally be a disease that crosses the world. Pan-, however, means "all of existence". Like pandemonium, or pantheism. So this is a disease that will DESTROY THE UNIVERSE. THE PANDEMIC WILL END ALL LIFE Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on November 09, 2005, 12:21:41 AM I will agree with Carlin about two things: Malls suck and obesity is way out of hand.
Bill Maher (to use another comedian) is much more constructive and funny about the two though. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Tebonas on November 09, 2005, 12:51:41 AM Don't get me started on the fucking pandemic (the word). People I KNOW didn't know what this word meant a month ago are using it all of the time now. And I have a strong suspiction they still don't know what it means.
One of these days one of them will slip up and say stupid stuff like "The Pandemic! I hurt my little toe this morning!" Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on November 09, 2005, 10:30:30 AM To re-rail the conversation to the best show on television, the latest Arrested Development (after 3 weeks of fucking baseball), was absolutely brilliant.
Narrator- "He had a choice to escape in either a miltary Humvee or the Popemobile. He chose the one that was bulletproof" (as George Senior jumps into the Popemobile). So many funny moments and gags. God :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: this show. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on November 09, 2005, 10:32:42 AM Lost comes back tonight. Girlie gonna die.
Oh, next week's episode is going to be the past 48 days of the tail section. Can't wait. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on November 09, 2005, 10:34:53 AM I haven't watched the last new episode of Lost yet, so I gotta get caught up! Thank God for TiVo.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on November 09, 2005, 10:54:24 AM To re-rail the conversation to the best show on television, the latest Arrested Development (after 3 weeks of fucking baseball), was absolutely brilliant. Narrator- "He had a choice to escape in either a miltary Humvee or the Popemobile. He chose the one that was bulletproof" (as George Senior jumps into the Popemobile). So many funny moments and gags. God :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: this show. Thank you!! I thought I was the only one hatin' on baseball for making me miss my shows. "I thought the jury was still out on science." GOLD. And go ahead and make fun of me, but I :heart: the O.C. and am happy it's back, too. God I love the drama! The juicy, juicy drama. Oh! New America's Next Top Model tonight! The best part of that show is when someone cries and when the drag queen makes a catty comment about one of the girls. LOVE it! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on November 09, 2005, 11:06:34 AM The only thing good I can say about your taste in shows is that America's Next Top Model comes right before Veronica Mars. New episode tonight! You might like it, it has teenagers and drama, but it's well written and the kids (20-somethings cast as teens) can act! :-D It's suffering from a lot of UPN interference this season as a result of last year's poor ratings. Regular musical guests ala Buffy and some Boston Public like casting decisions have been a tad irksome.
Two episodes to with Rome. Looks like Pullo's going to go criminal (nice head bashing scene last week) and we're going to go out with the "et tu" moment. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sairon on November 09, 2005, 11:40:18 AM Plowed through Lost just recently and I liked it, even though I do think it's a bit overrated. Rather funy that the guy who green lighted Lost got kicked because the show cost so much to produce, this was before it aired of course. One thing I dislike about lost is that it throws in more unanswered questions than it manages to answer, and some parts of it gets a bit silly. Still very enjoyable.
The best serie to hit television in a long time in my opinion is Battlestar Galactica, the remake that is. I've always had a soft spot for good sci-fi, and the writing is superb. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on November 09, 2005, 11:45:47 AM I think it's been accepted enough that Battlestar Galatica is The Shit that we no longer need to say it. It should be a given at all times and if there is anyone who happens to disagree they should be skinned alive and sent to a Barbie AOL chatroom.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on November 09, 2005, 11:48:43 AM Sheesh... I'm almost glad I've never seen it! I am safe through ignorance. (I hope)
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sairon on November 09, 2005, 11:49:39 AM I think it's been accepted enough that Battlestar Galatica is The Shit that we no longer need to say it. It should be a given at all times and if there is anyone who happens to disagree they should be skinned alive and sent to a Barbie AOL chatroom. Guess I missed those topics, I only watched it recently :-) I hear the next season begins in january. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on November 09, 2005, 12:00:08 PM I hear the next season begins in january. This is the game Sci Fi plays. They will break up a traditional season (22 or so episodes) into 2 or 3 of their seasons. USA Networks does this as well. It's irritating. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on November 09, 2005, 12:18:41 PM It is kind of irritating which is why I end up ignoring that channel. I should buckle down and just record everything for a year, stick it on a DvD and take my time watching it. They actually have some series I think I would enjoy. Their films, however, are horrible, horrible, horrible!
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Bunk on November 09, 2005, 12:48:32 PM Someone fill me in on Rome here. As far as I know, I only missed one episode - the one after Ceasar and Cleopatra resent thier Child - yet nothing seems to have come back to that. I can't see them having been able to wrap up the whole Marc Anthony love triangle/Cleopatra suicide in one episode...
If that hasn't happened yet, then we can't exactly be coming up to et tu? yet. Oh, and on Arrested Development. I have managed to never have actually seen the show, until last week. I watched one episode. Something tells me that Titus is going to be bumped down on my zip list in favor of AD. I could barely make sense of what was going on, but Super Dave Osborne as a web cam surrogate body and Charlise Theron as a hot retard - It's gold. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on November 09, 2005, 01:05:05 PM I fail to see how thinning the herd would worsen the situation in the world. I have a friend. He has six kids, he's 22. He has custody of none of them. His IQ (I'm guessing) is about 75. He's very dumb. I have no kids, I'm 35. My IQ is 150. See the problem with the modern USA? The smart people aren't breeding like the dumb people, shitty genetics are being spread like a pandemic (to use the modern cool scary word). I'm not worried about avian flu - I'm worried about huge multigenerational welfare families and the lack of huge well-bred families. I've said before that I'm somewhat classist, it's one of my "flaws". Heh, you could be quoting my wife. Unrelated, I figured out where you got your avatar. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on November 09, 2005, 01:10:19 PM They actually have some series I think I would enjoy. Their films, however, are horrible, horrible, horrible! Are you trying to say that you did not enjoy The Man With The Screaming Brain? I enjoy the promos for the horrible movies, actually. They are hilarious, and get funnier the more you watch since you start MSTK3K'ing them. Well, my wife and I do. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on November 09, 2005, 01:17:14 PM Someone fill me in on Rome here. As far as I know, I only missed one episode - the one after Ceasar and Cleopatra resent thier Child - yet nothing seems to have come back to that. I can't see them having been able to wrap up the whole Marc Anthony love triangle/Cleopatra suicide in one episode... Cleopatra hasn't made an appearance since the Egypt episode. All they did was hold up the well endowed baby (Pullo's) at the end of the episode while the troops cheared and Vorenus and Pullo gave each other worried glances. No mention of the baby or Cleopatra since then. Caesar went on to finish off Scipio and Cato and then it was back to Rome. It just seems they're ramping up the Brutus angst pretty quickly from here on out. I'm completely ignorant of how Cleopatra works into this whole timeline before Caesar's death. They've just got two episodes left before the end of the season. I figured they'd probably want to end it with a huge event. Doesn't get much bigger than a bunch of toga'd men stabbing an epileptic old man. Maybe they'll save it for next season. Being rather forgetful of Roman history has made this series all that more enjoyable. My classics professor would probably beat me to death with his cane for typing what I just did. For shame. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on November 09, 2005, 01:20:51 PM Blah, I thought Battlestar Galactica sucked. Took it off my 'record all new episodes' list. SG-1 is holding in there somehow, and Atlantis is pretty cool. I think BSG is trying to hard to be cool or edgy or something, just seems real contrived.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: stray on November 09, 2005, 01:21:54 PM Couldn't even get through one episode myself. Who knows? Maybe it was a bad one (I think it was about some pilot in training dying in a crash or something).
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on November 09, 2005, 01:42:51 PM Blah, I thought Battlestar Galactica sucked. Took it off my 'record all new episodes' list. SG-1 is holding in there somehow, and Atlantis is pretty cool. Mindboggling. I do agree somewhat: SG-Atlantis is the best current version of ST:TNG, followed by SG-1. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sairon on November 09, 2005, 01:55:43 PM McGyver never quite did it for me in SG1, gonna give Atlantis a shot soon I think.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on November 09, 2005, 02:12:15 PM Blah, I thought Battlestar Galactica sucked. Took it off my 'record all new episodes' list. SG-1 is holding in there somehow, and Atlantis is pretty cool. I think BSG is trying to hard to be cool or edgy or something, just seems real contrived. I still enjoy SG-1 and Atlantis.. but for your BSG comments... you are hereby branded a heathen and do not deserve good television. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on November 09, 2005, 02:15:33 PM Some potential Rome spoilers, aka actual history. Not too bad, but.... :
Alright, as of last episode we had Octavian as a very, very young Pontiff (Roman priest/elected official; usual stepping stone to more advanced Roman political office in the Republic and early Empire periods). Caesar commented himself that he had basically got his political start that way. Before Ceasar gets shivved, Octavian needs to be a few years older. He will have been recognized by Gaius Julius as his heir. And I think he was Consul. The other Consul at the time was Antony. You needed to have been a former Consul before you could be governor of a province, so that's why I seem to think Octavian was a Consul (being groomed to take over as governor of an important province). Ceasar is dictator for a fair number of years before he gets offed. As for timeline, we've already jumped a few years between the 3-4 episode Egypt arc. Lucius Vorenus' "son" has gone from a baby to a young boy. I'd hazard the guess that we're NOT going to close out the season with Ceasar's death. Instead, go on hiatus for a year/year and a half and let the actors age (Octavian & Vorenus' daughters). That way, can start out next season with Ceasar dead and lead into the Senate vs. Octavian/Antony/(blanking on the third member of the triumverate), then Antony (who goes native in the Orient) vs. Octavian (campaigns as the solid Roman). The years after the Antony/Octavian finale are interesting. Lots of long-lost sons of famous rebels keep showing up to duke it out with Octavian. I think we have sons of Cato, Pompeii, etc. making appearances. As well, I LOVED the advice that Octavian gave Ceasar on how to proceed as ruler. Since that's exactly what he did when he took over Rome. Octavian did a much, much better job of clothing his power in the apparatus of the Republic, though. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on November 09, 2005, 04:18:22 PM That way, can start out next season with Ceasar dead and lead into the Senate vs. Octavian/Antony/(blanking on the third member of the triumverate)... I believe it's Pompey's son, but I forget his name as well. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Bunk on November 09, 2005, 04:58:44 PM More historical spoilery stuff ahead.
Ah ok, now I see where I am wrong. I had thought that Caesar was still around when the whole Antony/Cleopatra thing happens, but apparently not. In fact, according to the time line I'm reading, Caesar's assasination happens in 44 BC, the same year he returns to Rome from Egypt. So you may in fact be correct, and the season will end on March 15th. According to this timeline: http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_time_cleo.htm Cleo actually outlives Caeser by 14 years, and its Octavion that leads to her and Antony's downfall. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on November 09, 2005, 08:49:42 PM That way, can start out next season with Ceasar dead and lead into the Senate vs. Octavian/Antony/(blanking on the third member of the triumverate)... I believe it's Pompey's son, but I forget his name as well. It's not. Pompei Magnus, Julius Caesar, and a 3rd were the original Triumverate. The third in the Octavian/Antony Triumverate was a Scypo or something like that. A real bad ass general, who just didn't care enough for supreme political power. I think his family and Octavian's intermarried quite a bit. This is all from memory, so may be a little inaccurate. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on November 09, 2005, 08:53:47 PM More historical spoilery stuff ahead. Ah ok, now I see where I am wrong. I had thought that Caesar was still around when the whole Antony/Cleopatra thing happens, but apparently not. In fact, according to the time line I'm reading, Caesar's assasination happens in 44 BC, the same year he returns to Rome from Egypt. So you may in fact be correct, and the season will end on March 15th. According to this timeline: http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_time_cleo.htm Cleo actually outlives Caeser by 14 years, and its Octavion that leads to her and Antony's downfall. Ceasar is boss for a while before he gets killed. Part of the problem is he's seen as going to Eastern (and fucking around with Cleo) while he still has a Roman wife and runs the empire. Antony & Octavian settle the killers, then Antony goes to Egypt with Cleopatra. Antony fucks up, gives Octavian too much time to prepare. Goes native, and basically alienates Rome. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on November 09, 2005, 09:00:56 PM That way, can start out next season with Ceasar dead and lead into the Senate vs. Octavian/Antony/(blanking on the third member of the triumverate)... I believe it's Pompey's son, but I forget his name as well. It's not. Pompei Magnus, Julius Caesar, and a 3rd were the original Triumverate. Yeah, I'm wrong. According to Wikipedia, it's Marcus Lepidus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Triumvirate) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: littledude on November 10, 2005, 05:03:21 AM Myth Busters Rocks!!! :-D
Last night they busted the myth of taking 15 2Liter bottle, strap them to a person, and fill it with water and compressed air and shoot them in the air like a bottle rocket. I never laughed my butt of so much! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 10, 2005, 09:39:24 AM Since Rome is not going to start showing the 2nd season until 200-fucking-7, I imagine the first season probably could end with the death of Caesar and the second season start up Octavian and Antony's brouhaha. But I haven't watched the last two episodes yet, so I don't know.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on November 10, 2005, 10:58:24 AM McGyver never quite did it for me in SG1, gonna give Atlantis a shot soon I think. They have redone SG-1, replacing MacGuyver with Beau Bridges. I think when you cast Beau Bridges you are basically saying "I give up." They also put in a bondage MILF type. I don't watch the show because I have no idea what the hell is going on. Seems like half the promos have Tee-Loc lifting a rock while groaning like he's trying to drop a log sideways. Nooooooo thanks. Atlantis was good the first season. Small team, overwhelming odds, stranded... now they have the ability to return to Earth, so bleh. Also they have added a dreadlocked toughass badboy in a duster, and The Shocker is a regular. Gotta love Pillegi ... Pileggi ... The Shocker. Much more Next-Generationy, like SG-1. It's a nice appetizer before BSG. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on November 10, 2005, 11:18:30 AM Yeah, I thought it was better when the Atlantis team was stranded, too. I like the dreadlock badass, though, he adds a dimension they needed.
SG-1...well, it's in an interesting phase. Beau just sucks, John Crichton is passing at best. Claudia Black was pretty good, too bad they didn't keep her around. Having an interstellar vagabond on the team was a nice twist. They've really pushed it with all the interstellar race stuff, it was nicer when it was mostly Goauld (or whatever) slave planets, but I guess you can only push that so far. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on November 10, 2005, 11:59:46 AM People like the Stargate shows? I think they are both unwatchable. Pure tripe.
BSG is ok, but it can be really slow at times. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on November 10, 2005, 12:34:55 PM So far I've found the new Ori storyline interesting on SG-1. I do miss Parker Lewis, though.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on November 10, 2005, 05:09:45 PM Stargate and Farscape make my skin crawl with a hate reserved only for low budget badly-written sci-fi. Fucking muppets.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on November 10, 2005, 09:11:59 PM LOST is losing me. It used to be about turning everything off and watching it. Now, it's barely paying attention until the final scene because the rest is basically useless crap. And I agree with TWOP, they need to play CCR's "Run through the Jungle" at least once in the show. The scenary demands it.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on November 11, 2005, 07:31:32 AM Lost is getting bogged down in re-hashing the back story repeatedly.
Stargate and Farscape make my skin crawl with a hate reserved only for low budget badly-written sci-fi. Fucking muppets. Just admit you don't like Sci-Fi, and move on. No shame in that. :-DTitle: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on November 11, 2005, 08:09:05 AM SG-1...well, it's in an interesting phase. They should just change the theme song to TMBG's "Stalk of Wheat". Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on November 11, 2005, 08:36:21 AM Arrested Development in trouble (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/051111e.php)
If and when they cancel this show, I may be forced to go on a shooting spree at Fox. When utter shit like Survivor can be a top 10 show, but something as original and hilarious as AD is ignored by the utterly retarded American Public, it is time for a cleansing. Maybe the bird flu will kill stupid people first. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 11, 2005, 08:42:17 AM Arrested Development in trouble (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/051111e.php) If and when they cancel this show, I may be forced to go on a shooting spree at Fox. When utter shit like Survivor can be a top 10 show, but something as original and hilarious as AD is ignored by the utterly retarded American Public, it is time for a cleansing. Maybe the bird flu will kill stupid people first. Shoot me too. You know why I've never watched it? I missed the first episode and didn't want to catch up. Now if I'd had the ability to pay a small fee ($1 or so) to download the episode and watch it the day after, I'd be a loyal viewer. Crotchpheasants. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on November 11, 2005, 08:48:40 AM I can't believe you have never watched it! It is fucking hysterical. You really don't need to know the backstory to enjoy it, but your enjoyment will increase as you get to know the characters for sure. Netflix the first 2 seasons ASAFP.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on November 11, 2005, 09:03:13 AM You know why I've never watched it? I missed the first episode and didn't want to catch up. I'm in the same boat. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on November 11, 2005, 10:07:28 AM I'm in the same boat. That is the dumbest boat ever. Continuity exists so as to make the jokes funnier; the characters are definitely not growing as people. Netflix. I miss episodes all the time, yet I can come in halfway through a show and piss my pants. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on November 11, 2005, 10:12:36 AM I bought the Arrested Development season 1 box and ended up returning it. The jokes were too far and inbetween and were built on awkwardness. And they don't do awkwardness as well as Curb Your Enthusiasm. I suggest you watch Seinfeld. Again. Season 5 & 6 box comes with a puffy shirt.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on November 11, 2005, 10:13:30 AM LOST is losing me. It used to be about turning everything off and watching it. Now, it's barely paying attention until the final scene because the rest is basically useless crap. And I agree with TWOP, they need to play CCR's "Run through the Jungle" at least once in the show. The scenary demands it. Lost lost me about 15 episodes into the first season. They had to figure out how to drag the time on the island out permanently and the pace died in a matter of episodes. Poor JJ Abrams. In Japan he could do these wonderful 13-17 episode seasons and never have to come up with bullshit to keep a series going. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Pococurante on November 11, 2005, 01:18:19 PM "Bring back the polar bears beyotch!!"
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on November 11, 2005, 03:00:29 PM As long as Evangeline Lilly continues to grace my screen, I will be a loyal Lost viewer.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on November 11, 2005, 05:07:34 PM While I don't see how anyone could think AD is not funny, I can see how it's in trouble. The jokes come a bit too fast this season, and for some people who aren't with the characters it may get a bit boring.
As for Lost, I've found myself watching it out of habit more than enjoyment the last couple episodes. But Alias did the same thing and I still finished the last 3 seasons (yeech). Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Fabricated on November 11, 2005, 05:19:10 PM I bought the Arrested Development season 1 box and ended up returning it. The jokes were too far and inbetween and were built on awkwardness. And they don't do awkwardness as well as Curb Your Enthusiasm. I suggest you watch Seinfeld. Again. Season 5 & 6 box comes with a puffy shirt. Seinfeld. Bleh.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on November 11, 2005, 07:48:02 PM I told you guys Lost was going to suck. Why didn't you believe the all-knowing Margalis?
Interesting premise that lets your imagination run wild. But similar to The Matrix, what you imagine is invariably better than what you actually get. Same reason the character creation is the best part of some MMORPGs. It's so cool to imagine this awesome character you are making going out on all sorts of rad adventures - then you start playing and have to kill 200 Rabid Raccoons. Plus Alias sucks. So I had low hopes for Lost. A bunch of boring flashbacks intermingled with no actual forward progress in the story other than "tune in next week where X predictable character bites the dust!" Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on November 11, 2005, 08:08:59 PM I told you guys Lost was going to suck. Why didn't you believe the all-knowing Margalis? Interesting premise that lets your imagination run wild. But similar to The Matrix, what you imagine is invariably better than what you actually get. Same reason the character creation is the best part of some MMORPGs. It's so cool to imagine this awesome character you are making going out on all sorts of rad adventures - then you start playing and have to kill 200 Rabid Raccoons. Plus Alias sucks. So I had low hopes for Lost. A bunch of boring flashbacks intermingled with no actual forward progress in the story other than "tune in next week where X predictable character bites the dust!" Don't get me wrong. I love Lost. I love the pacing of it too. Nice and slow, let it unfold at it's own thing. Just recently though, been a bit tedious in the story (hated the whole bunker thingy once it opened). I actually love the flashbacks. Alias does suck though. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on November 14, 2005, 07:27:08 AM AD is too subtle for the masses. It's also struggling because it's innovative, but completely bizarre. This marks doom for a show even if critical acclaim is good. Plus, it's on FOX.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on November 14, 2005, 07:49:16 AM Didn't it also get moved to the Friday slot of doom?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on November 14, 2005, 08:58:41 AM Didn't it also get moved to the Friday slot of doom? I don't think it did, but I could be wrong, being that I just TIVO it. It had, however, been interupted for 3 consecutive weeks because of the baseball playoffs. This helped kill another Fox show you might have heard of: Firefly. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 14, 2005, 10:05:45 AM I think AD is on Monday nights, up against either Monday Night Football or Surface. Not really sure. Either way, it's a bad place for comedy.
If you aren't watching My Name is Earl and The Office on Tuesday nights, you should be. That's some funny shit. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on November 14, 2005, 10:12:29 AM I think AD is on Monday nights, up against either Monday Night Football or Surface. Not really sure. Either way, it's a bad place for comedy. AD is on Monday nights at 8:00, up against Surface. However, they're doing the "on this week, not next week or the week after" shuffle, so of course the ratings are shitty. Nobody knows when it's going to be on the air.. and it only gets ads on Sunday during football. As has been mentioned before, someone at Fox must have a grudge against Ron Howard. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 14, 2005, 11:13:04 AM As has been mentioned before, someone at Fox must have a grudge against Ron Howard. No, just quality. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on November 14, 2005, 11:22:04 AM They need more room for NASCAR and reality shows. Anything that doesn't involve shiny colors or people eating bugs is too cerebral.
I find myself embarrassed to be an American more and more often these days. THESE are my 'peers'? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 14, 2005, 11:26:46 AM I find myself embarrassed to be an American more and more often these days. THESE are my 'peers'? Watch that excrement "Wife Swap" or "Trading Spouses" if you really want to be pushed into painting dotted lines on your wrists. And if you want to weep for future generations (and the fuckups their parents foist on them), watch "Nanny 911" or "Super Nanny." Bonus points if you watch it with a bottle of Scotch and a handful of valium. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on November 14, 2005, 11:53:13 AM Showtime rumored to be interested in picking up AD. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/14/DDG4NFMUAI1.DTL)
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on November 14, 2005, 12:46:23 PM Showtime rumored to be interested in picking up AD. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/14/DDG4NFMUAI1.DTL) The end of the never-nude? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on November 22, 2005, 09:16:42 PM Just caught the Rome finale. Next season will start in 2007, which is a great move timeline/plot wise. Gives the actor playing Octavian (who's great in that part) time to mature and actually play the role.
Good finale to a good show. The Brutus character is a whiney bitch, but that's a good character-type for what he accomplishes: removing Julius and opening the floodgates to Civil War. Pullo and Verenus are great. The actor that plays Verenus has a couple movies in production, including a sequal to "Dog Soldiers", so I can see why the extended hiatus is needed. I agree with what someone else said.... expect to see Pullo and Verenus spearheading the pro-Octavian faction. And I'm sure with his wife's suicide, Verenus will be out massacring people left and right. I still think that the death of Julius was rushed timeline wise, but not terribly so. Seville is going to be in a world of pain.... Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Bunk on November 23, 2005, 02:19:14 PM I have to admit that Romes's finale blew me away. The handling of Ceasar's death was well done, and they got around the whole questions of how he'd say his final words - but just not having him say anything. What really got me though was the juxposition of how things ended up for Pullo and Verenus. Not what one would have expected loking at things a couple of episodes ago.
I can't fucking believe that I didn't notice Kevin McKidd had been in Dog Soldiers. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Big Gulp on November 23, 2005, 02:21:49 PM I agree with what someone else said.... expect to see Pullo and Verenus spearheading the pro-Octavian faction. And I'm sure with his wife's suicide, Verenus will be out massacring people left and right. That's not in my tea leaves (or more appropriately for this series; bird guts). Remember when Vorenus made that little oath to Mark Antony? Well, Vorenus seems like a man of his word to me. And I can see Pullo easily falling in with Octavian. That shouldn't matter too much confrontation-wise until Octavion and Antony kill off Cicero (and just so you know, in RL Mark Antony actually did nail Cicero's hands to the senate door), Brutus, and Cassius. Then it'll be time to settle who's master of Rome once all the conspirators are done away with. Oh, and Servillia? You have no conception of whom you have fucked with. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on November 23, 2005, 04:10:29 PM I agree with what someone else said.... expect to see Pullo and Verenus spearheading the pro-Octavian faction. And I'm sure with his wife's suicide, Verenus will be out massacring people left and right. That's not in my tea leaves (or more appropriately for this series; bird guts). Remember when Vorenus made that little oath to Mark Antony? Well, Vorenus seems like a man of his word to me. And I can see Pullo easily falling in with Octavian. That shouldn't matter too much confrontation-wise until Octavion and Antony kill off Cicero (and just so you know, in RL Mark Antony actually did nail Cicero's hands to the senate door), Brutus, and Cassius. Then it'll be time to settle who's master of Rome once all the conspirators are done away with. Oh, and Servillia? You have no conception of whom you have fucked with. No joke about Servilla. I was half expecting Octavian to lean over and cut her throat, then drily explain how he was going to wipe every trace of her and her family off the face of the earth. The Octavian character is amazing. Hmm, I'm blanking on the Verenus/Antony oath. Was that the episode when Verenus flirted with crime, then came crawling back to Antony to take up the job as Prefect? Missed a couple episodes, including the second to last with the arena. Watched the Sopranos right before Rome, the episode where they kill Adriana. Man.... I forgot both how great and how smart that show can be. Looking forward to the sixth season in March. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on November 23, 2005, 10:11:39 PM Well, sounds like a second season of Rome is up in the air. Story from the Fat Man's website.
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21897 Basically, not doing as well in the UK. And the first season cost $100 million to make. Some worry about having a 2 year hiatus between seasons. The rumor is a rush DVD release to see how the numbers are.... Honestly, I like the show, but I could understand why HBO would get cold feet if their major financial backer might pull out. The cost of producing Rome would probably eat up most of their original material budget. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Big Gulp on November 24, 2005, 05:05:53 AM The cost of producing Rome would probably eat up most of their original material budget. Yeah, but they've also got all of the sets already built, which is where the big cost comes from. It just seems like it would be a waste to shitcan the whole thing now. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 28, 2005, 12:21:17 PM Rome's biggest problem for a second season is that it won't get aired until 2007. That's a lot of time to have money just floating out there, to have actors just waiting around, and to have sets built but not being used. I still haven't watched the last two episodes.
I did catch an asston of Firefly over the holidays (most of which had been on my Tivo for over a week). I also got to see at least 3 episodes that I never saw, which I assume are the ones on the DVD that Fox never aired. I'd forgotten just how good that show was. Not airing some of those episodes certainly contributed to how badly the show did in the ratings, and not airing the pilot movie first was retarded in the first degree. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Viin on November 28, 2005, 02:48:21 PM I didn't realize Rome won't be showing again until 2007, that sucks!
While the ending of this season of Rome was no surprise, it still was very good. Since I can't remember hardly anything about ancient Roman history, I'm interested to see what happens next! :wink: Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Big Gulp on November 28, 2005, 03:17:47 PM Since I can't remember hardly anything about ancient Roman history, I'm interested to see what happens next! :wink: To sum up: Octavian was a bad, bad man, but a very good emperor. Oh, and a lot of people get killed along the way. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Viin on November 28, 2005, 09:10:51 PM Oh, and a lot of people get killed along the way. SWEET!!! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on November 28, 2005, 10:18:06 PM Rome's biggest problem for a second season is that it won't get aired until 2007. That's a lot of time to have money just floating out there, to have actors just waiting around, and to have sets built but not being used. I still haven't watched the last two episodes. I did catch an asston of Firefly over the holidays (most of which had been on my Tivo for over a week). I also got to see at least 3 episodes that I never saw, which I assume are the ones on the DVD that Fox never aired. I'd forgotten just how good that show was. Not airing some of those episodes certainly contributed to how badly the show did in the ratings, and not airing the pilot movie first was retarded in the first degree. You can tend to forget all the sets they use only once or twice, too. Sure, the Rome set is reused. But then you have sets like Ceasars Gaul camp, or Pompeii's burning camp, or the Egypt sets. And shooting at sea, which is always said to be prohibitively expensive. And you KNOW that we're getting some fleet on fleet action with Antony vs Octavian. The delay till 2007 is almost unavoidable. You have to let the actor that plays Babbington.... errr... I mean Octavian age so he looks realistic commanding legions and tieing Rome in political knots. And there's no way they can replace him. He's fucking perfect. Anyone else would be a major step down. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Jeff Kelly on November 29, 2005, 05:15:16 AM Finished the complete run of Dead like Me last week. That was freaking awesome. Mandy Patinkin and Ellen Muth were just unreal in the show. Right now the only things I'm watching are Rome and Prison Break - both of which I'm enjoying. I'll probably start watching Alias when it comes on as well. I just bought the whole first season of dead like me on DVD (US import) in a speciality store here in Nuremberg (show never officially aired here in germany) and watched the pilot. I am already hooked, a great show, witty, dark humour and it has Mandy Ptinkin. Found out half an hour later that the show is already cancelled in the US however, your TV execs are cockgobbling fuckers. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Big Gulp on November 29, 2005, 02:48:47 PM And there's no way they can replace him. He's fucking perfect. Anyone else would be a major step down. I disagree, although I do agree that the kid is great and should stay in the role. If they wanted to go ahead and age Octavion really quickly I propose (and I shit you not on this), Doogie Howser. Yep, Neil Patrick Harris. Dude has the looks, and could pull off the role because he can actually act. Too bad that he's fallen into the former teen star death spiral. Although I guess it really doesn't matter, because they've already messed around with the real history enough. I mean, at the time of Caesar's death Octavion was I believe 31 or 32 years old. Hell, he was instrumental in leading a cavalry unit a number of times that saved Caesar's bacon. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on November 30, 2005, 11:46:58 AM Found out half an hour later that the show is already cancelled in the US however, your TV execs are cockgobbling fuckers. Yes. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on November 30, 2005, 07:10:26 PM I liked Dead Like Me, but... it never really developed too much of an audience. It was a good show, but real quirky.
I'm surprised that Showtime gave it 2 seasons. There wasn't alot of action, mostly dialogue/character work, but they combined that with some odd characters (George's boss, people she worked with) and alot of profanity. Usually fairly gruesome deaths, and loads of black humor. The people that like black humor are turned off by the dialogue/character stuff, the people into the drama are turned off by the black humor and massive profanity. Add the fact the supernatural part of the plot was dragging it's feet right along. As I said, I liked the show but it was the very definition of a niche show. As much as I badmouth HBO for this, they're smart enough to include about 5 minutes of sensationalist junk an episode in each one of their TV series. I think it helps to draw in a wider range of audience, and I'll put up with it to get the quality bits of the program. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on November 30, 2005, 09:29:51 PM I must be a freak, because the dialogue was part of the black humor.
It's like what happens after Greg House takes care of them. Seriously, I'd pay real money to see Mandy Patinkin on a show like that with Hugh Laurie. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Triforcer on December 01, 2005, 01:21:58 PM Want to echo Haemish's point about "My Name is Earl". I'm from an area that, except for not being in the south, is similar to Earl's town. The writers, who are probably from Manhattan or L.A., have actually shown the ability to get beyond their ingrained hayseed caricatures and write good characters. The show nails how people think and talk and react (THE COUNTY FAIR IS HERE!!11!) so perfectly its eerie.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Pococurante on December 01, 2005, 01:50:27 PM Still loving Earl. My wife, who grew up very much the country bumpkin, ranted and raved through the first fifteen minutes of the first episode about what a terrible show and why were they making fun of blue collar folks. She spent the last fifteen minutes laughing and it's now her favorite show... ;) I enjoy it too - not as smart as Raising Arizona but still a fun way to spend 45 mnutes.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on December 18, 2005, 12:52:02 AM Sci-fi has ALL of the deleted scenes for BSG's second season up on it's website:
http://scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season02/201/ Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on December 19, 2005, 07:26:04 AM Um. 'The Farm' looks real creepy.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on December 28, 2005, 03:39:51 PM Spoilers for season 2 of Battlestar Galactica. You have been warned. (http://www.patriotresource.com/bg/insights/spoilers.html)
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on December 29, 2005, 06:47:26 AM The cylons look like lamps now! I so spoiled it for you all!
I love lamp. And now it's a goddamned cylon. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: voodoolily on December 29, 2005, 12:14:07 PM We've started Tivo-ing Being Bobby Brown and lemme tell ya, that shit is GOLD. Gold, I say! It is so creepy to see Whitney Houston that fucked up and cracked out. It's hilarious. And she bore me my new favoritest quote that I use incessantly now: "Hell to the no!"
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on January 03, 2006, 12:05:41 PM Scrubs returns tonight and the Sci-Fi block of Stargate, Atlantis and Galactica comes back Friday.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on January 03, 2006, 12:22:12 PM Oo, thanks for the scifi update. My DVR should catch it, but I better check.
DVR saves relationships imo. OHNOES MY DVR IS A CYLON Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on January 03, 2006, 05:14:49 PM Oo, thanks for the scifi update. My DVR should catch it, but I better check. DVR saves relationships imo. OHNOES MY DVR IS A CYLON I laughed out loud at this. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on January 04, 2006, 09:56:48 AM Arrested Development article (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/04/tv.arrested.development.ap/index.html)
The quotes from the show are priceless. Pity that the average American is far too dim to get the briliance of this show. /sadf Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 04, 2006, 09:58:48 AM Arrested Development article (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/04/tv.arrested.development.ap/index.html) The quotes from the show are priceless. Pity that the average American is far too dim to get the briliance of this show. /sadf It wasn't brilliant. It was Lars Von Trier comedy hour. Shaky Cam + Camp != Brilliant. I'll grant that some of the jokes had me laughing out of my chair, but just for comparisons sake, there was not a single joke on that show that compared to nearly any line Mandy Patinkin delivered in Dead Like Me. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on January 04, 2006, 11:39:56 AM Haven't seen that. However, AD is brilliant when compared to 95% of sitcoms- drek like The World According to Jim, The War At Home, Yes, Dear, and pretty much anything on UPN or WB (except Chris Rock's show- that is pretty funny).
I just thought it was interesting that the article used some many quotes- a not so subtle attempt to get more folks to tune in (instead of just reporting about the demise of the show). Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on January 11, 2006, 02:16:02 AM I really think the Boondocks is one of the best damn things I've ever seen. At least a few times per show I get a really good, strong, loud laugh. I just cracked up at a commercial for this week's episode. I'd explain it, but text wouldn't be able to convey the proper timing to really explain why I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.
I'm increasingly happy Adult Swim picked this show up. Between all the Tom Goes To The Mayors and 12 Oz. Mice, they haven't completely forgotten what's funny. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 11, 2006, 06:20:31 AM I disagree, although I do agree that the kid is great and should stay in the role. If they wanted to go ahead and age Octavion really quickly I propose (and I shit you not on this), Doogie Howser. Yep, Neil Patrick Harris. Dude has the looks, and could pull off the role because he can actually act. Too bad that he's fallen into the former teen star death spiral. That might work quite well. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Viin on January 11, 2006, 07:41:29 AM I just started watching the first season of Lost. Pretty darn good, too bad we won't be caught up in time to watch season 2.
But I've already made a guess as to why the plane crashed: nuclear detonations. I was trying to plot where '6 hours in' in the flight would have been (where they lost communications), and I'd have to guess at least most of the way to the US (6 hours would be about 3000 miles, how close is that to LAX from Sydney?). If I'm wrong, ok you can say that, but if the show tells us what actually happened don't say anything!! :mrgreen: Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on January 11, 2006, 08:00:30 AM I disagree, although I do agree that the kid is great and should stay in the role. If they wanted to go ahead and age Octavion really quickly I propose (and I shit you not on this), Doogie Howser. Yep, Neil Patrick Harris. Dude has the looks, and could pull off the role because he can actually act. Too bad that he's fallen into the former teen star death spiral. That might work quite well. That would work very well. Although, I'd hate to see him leave the cast of How I Met Your Mother. I really really enjoy that show. About as much as I enjoyed Friends before it go all shitty. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on January 15, 2006, 11:31:02 PM I really think the Boondocks is one of the best damn things I've ever seen. After seeing today's episode, I want to say that again. I love this fucking show. Where else can you see Martin Luther King completely lambast the bullshit gangsta culture and announce he's leaving the country to move to Canada? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 16, 2006, 08:04:37 AM Boondocks is indeed the funniest thing on that channel. Somehow the cartoon manages to be edgier and far more racist than McGruders other work. Of course, he's black and taking that into account the cartoon isn't edgy or racist. He's just keeping it real.
I love America. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on January 16, 2006, 09:25:14 AM There is a Boondocks cartoon? I gotta see that- the comic strip is freakin' hilarious.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on January 16, 2006, 09:49:47 AM Boondocks is indeed the funniest thing on that channel. Somehow the cartoon manages to be edgier and far more racist than McGruders other work. Of course, he's black and taking that into account the cartoon isn't edgy or racist. He's just keeping it real. I love America. So if a white guy did it it's racist, but since McGruder isn't, it's "keeping it real". It's such bullshit. Plus, the show isn't that funny. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 16, 2006, 09:56:40 AM So if a white guy did it it's racist, but since McGruder isn't, it's "keeping it real". It's such bullshit. Plus, the show isn't that funny. I was being ironical. I'm the last person to give a shit about that one way racism bullshit. But the show isn't just funny - it's SMART and funny. This is certainly a case of you needing to explain why you think it isn't funny. Normally I wouldn't give a shit and would just go with the standard "You don't like fun" line, but here? I've yet to meet anyone that thought it wasn't funny. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on January 16, 2006, 10:59:21 AM "What are you doing?"
"I'm writing a letter to Santa. 'Dear Santa, You are a bitch nigga.' No, no, wait, hold up. 'You are a bitch ASS nigga.'" And please, let's try not to pretend to be so shocked when a sharp criticism of a culture comes from within a culture and that makes it okay, whereas otherwise it wouldn't be okay. For instance, Jack Thompson criticizing games as brainless, overly violent, overly exploitative pieces of X-TREME media comes off sounding like an asshole. From someone who actually plays games, it carries much more weight. Because perspective and experience count when you say stuff. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on January 16, 2006, 01:54:46 PM The Santa Claus episode of The Boondocks was just a scream. The "bitch ASS nigga" comment in the letter just left me in a seizure state for minutes. It still makes me giggle. That and the Adventures of Black Jesus. The "Hoe's Comin' to Dinner" episode was great as well.
"Does she run well in high heels?" "HOE!" Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Jain Zar on January 16, 2006, 02:05:00 PM Boondocks is pretty good.
Not Battlestar Galactica good, but good nonetheless. But I love cartoons. Too bad Teen Titans is done (last episode shown today, and again Saturday), and its looking like Justice League Unlimited is down for the count too. Because Cartoon Network currently thinks OMG ANIME is the way to go. My only solace? Disney decided to bring back Kim Possible. Which is fucking awesome since that show rules. I grew up watching James Bond movies with my dad (one of the few things we actually did together really..) and its a great send up of those films. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on January 16, 2006, 02:07:11 PM I haven't heard Justice League cancellation rumors. But yeah, they haven't had a new episode in quite a while. That would be a goddamn shame, since they were just getting to the Legion of Doom stuff.
Anime should be fucked in its tiny little asshole. I'm dead sick of anime, especially on Cartoon Network. Also, is there supposed to be any goddamn sense in Perfect Hair Forever? I swear I lost brain cells watching that shit. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 16, 2006, 02:21:57 PM There's a lot of good anime. The problem is that it started at the top (Cowboy Bebop) and where can you go from there? I've yet to see a single cartoon from anywhere better than Cowboy Bebop. Including the Ghibli stuff (which I :heart:). There's a lot of other anime worth bringing to America, but it'll just get butchered. I agree though, take anime off the air so people who don't like it will stop bitching and teeny boppers will stop running around wearing branded clothing with shit anime on it.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Jain Zar on January 16, 2006, 02:40:52 PM There was good anime. Now its all flashy creepy stuff for people who lust after cartoon teenagers.
Back in the VHS days I bought over 200 anime tapes, most at a discount. (Yay comic shop selling rental copies or planned to be rental copies!) In the DVD days? Im maybe at 50. And thats counting full sets like G Gundam, Gundam Wing (shut up I like it), and Ghibli stuff. But for every Azumanga Diaoh there are 20 harem anime wankfests or some yaoi overload show for fat lonely fangirls. Since the harem anime is for the lonely fanboys. The guys get maid armies jerking off the main character, the girls get guys shoving corncobs up each other's asses. And im not joking. Those are ACTUAL SCENES IN ANIME SHOWS. We need more mecha I think. And actual mecha shows not the wankfest Evangelion turned out to be. I would say Raxephon was good, but it wasn't really a mecha show. And I am like the only person who gives a fuck about Patlabor in the entire USA apparently. What? A show with generally ANGST FREE ADULTS piloting the mecha? In ACTUAL CLOTHES? And the main female character at best is a b cup? BLASPHEMY. And people wonder why I want to stab the current generation of anime fans in the face. Because they want shit instead of anything actually good. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 16, 2006, 02:50:43 PM For every type of every show there's 20 shitty wankfests. What's your point?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Stormwaltz on January 16, 2006, 02:53:29 PM We need more mecha I think. And actual mecha shows not the wankfest Evangelion turned out to be. Believe it or not, the Zone of the Enders: Dolores anime was pretty good. It was a straightforward adventure serial without a hint of EVA-style pretension. The lead character was neither an emo prettyboy nor an improbably endowed junior high girl - it was a 40-something alcoholic space trucker, trying to learn how to talk to his (grown) kids by reading a pop-psychology text. The whole series (plus the Idolo prequel OVA) is now available in a cheap box set. I highly recommend it. It's honestly the best mecha show I've seen in the last three years. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 16, 2006, 03:00:51 PM What the Fuck.
BSG on tonight in the UK and they've done away with the really cool Thunderbirds style intro. What the Fuck ? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Viin on January 16, 2006, 03:14:36 PM Wha'? You guys must get a different intro than us here in the States?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 16, 2006, 03:17:34 PM Apparently we did last season. Now, not.
:( Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on January 16, 2006, 03:18:15 PM On Boondocks...
I saw a few episodes, and I just didn't find it to be funny, or entertaining. There's been a lot of shit on Cartoon Network as of late. I can't even watch it anymore. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 16, 2006, 03:19:03 PM We need more mecha I think. And actual mecha shows not the wankfest Evangelion turned out to be. Believe it or not, the Zone of the Enders: Dolores anime was pretty good. It was a straightforward adventure serial without a hint of EVA-style pretension. The lead character was neither an emo prettyboy nor an improbably endowed junior high girl - it was a 40-something alcoholic space trucker, trying to learn how to talk to his (grown) kids by reading a pop-psychology text. The whole series (plus the Idolo prequel OVA) is now available in a cheap box set. I highly recommend it. It's honestly the best mecha show I've seen in the last three years. I had trouble with Dolores. I have trouble with mecha altogether. They just annoy me. I liked season 1 of Full Metal Panic though. I can't think of another anime I liked that had robots in it. Oh, wait, I think two episodes of Abenobashi Mahou Shotengai did. That might count. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Stormwaltz on January 16, 2006, 04:53:23 PM I liked season 1 of Full Metal Panic though. Season 3 is supposed to return to the same model. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 16, 2006, 05:00:40 PM I liked season 1 of Full Metal Panic though. Season 3 is supposed to return to the same model. Thank god. Fumoffu was a goddamn joke. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on January 17, 2006, 12:00:13 AM I really think the Boondocks is one of the best damn things I've ever seen. At least a few times per show I get a really good, strong, loud laugh. I just cracked up at a commercial for this week's episode. I'd explain it, but text wouldn't be able to convey the proper timing to really explain why I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. I'm increasingly happy Adult Swim picked this show up. Between all the Tom Goes To The Mayors and 12 Oz. Mice, they haven't completely forgotten what's funny. Saw a couple of episodes last night and it's sweeeeeeeeeeet. There even was an episode with Samuel Jackson in it. He was the voice of the friend of the dude that was to Iraq. Awesome. "I always say that absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" "ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?". Always cracks me up. On BSG: is it just me or the writting this season is a lot better than the first one? Or may be it's because of that awesome cliff hanger. Anyway I like it a lot better now than I did last year. Quote There's a lot of good anime. The problem is that it started at the top (Cowboy Bebop) and where can you go from there? I have to agree with you Schild. Cowboy Bebop was one of the first animes I ever saw and I still haven't seen anything better. It's just too good :) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 17, 2006, 03:51:03 AM Nope. I don't want to have sex with your new avatar as much as I did your old one.
*huff* Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on January 17, 2006, 04:21:51 AM Nope. I don't want to have sex with your new avatar as much as I did your old one. *huff* She's japanese, previous one was Chinease. I am currently in search of a South Korean to finish my Asian Collection of Hotness Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on January 17, 2006, 07:34:23 AM There's a lot of good anime. The problem is that it started at the top (Cowboy Bebop) and where can you go from there? I started with Robotech (OLD SKOOL BITCHES!) and really, not much has improved since then. Bebop and the original Ghost in the Shell were good, Akira had its moments and I've yet to see an anime made in the last 5 years that was worth the paper it was drawn on. I don't dislike anime, I just dislike most of what anmie fans here (and Cartoon Network execs) seem to like. Patlabor was decent from what I remember. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Murgos on January 17, 2006, 07:40:18 AM There's a lot of good anime. The problem is that it started at the top (Cowboy Bebop) and where can you go from there? I started with Robotech (OLD SKOOL BITCHES!)... I started with Starblazers (http://www.starblazers.com/) (Space Battleship Yamato, I think?). Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Stormwaltz on January 17, 2006, 09:29:52 AM I started with Robotech (OLD SKOOL BITCHES!) Yeah, that was the gateway drug for me too. Nothing stuns a 12 year-old like seeing people die in a cartoon. I didn't start watching anime again for many years, though; a friend made me watch Akira later in high school, and I absolutely loathed it. Still do. For me, it still holds up as a paradigm of how the genre can suck - shiny, violent, poorly written garbage that thinks it's much deeper than it is. Like an emo kid with a switchblade and a nervous tic. I've seen decent stuff in the last five years, but it tends to get lost in the noise. We're oversaturated. The shelves are stacked with garbage. I'm back to spending $300-$400 a month on anime, and there's very little now that I'd rate over three stars. The last great series I saw was Gunslinger Girl. Before that, Infinite Ryvius and Someday's Dreamers - which came out two years previous. EDIT: Just started Koi Kaze, which is very good so far, but I've only seen 1/3 of it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on January 17, 2006, 09:35:04 AM Cartoons as drama are smelly farts.
Looney Tunes, Merry Melodies, those were some cartoons. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on January 17, 2006, 10:06:34 AM I really like Full Metal Alchemist.
And, of course, Cowboy Bebop, but I own the whole series and know it backwards and forwards so I can't really watch it anymore. Aside from that, no thanks. Naruto sucks. Sorry people, maybe if there were about 1/5 as many episodes as there are it'd be a good show, but it's just awful as it is. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on January 17, 2006, 10:07:36 AM There's a lot of good anime. The problem is that it started at the top (Cowboy Bebop) and where can you go from there? I started with Robotech (OLD SKOOL BITCHES!)... I started with Starblazers (http://www.starblazers.com/) (Space Battleship Yamato, I think?). Does Voltron count as anime? 'Cause I technically started with that one :) since we're on the topic, is Bleach any good? A friend is making me watch it, but it's like 20000000 episodes... and the only other anime that long was already mentioned and it sucked :P Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 17, 2006, 10:11:23 AM Yea, I had to stop watching Naruto. The manga moved much faster.
As for you Haemcow, I suggest you rent some Ghibli stuff (Spirited Away, etc). Though I'd still recommend Jungle Wa Itsumo to anyone. That shit kills me. Samurai Champloo was a smelly piece of shit. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on January 17, 2006, 10:14:49 AM Wow, giant robots ruin anything they touch apparently. Yay, anime. :hello_kitty_2: :crying_panda: :hello_kitty:
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on January 17, 2006, 11:04:27 AM What the Fuck. BSG on tonight in the UK and they've done away with the really cool Thunderbirds style intro. What the Fuck ? If it has marionettes in it, I don't think you are watching BSG. The one I am watching is awesome. The opening was altered a bit at first, but now it is back to normal. The first two episodes were so tightly executed that I didn't mind the deus ex machina at all. My only possible complaint is that they could have used some more battle footage and less shirtless Lee Adama, but YMMV. I have gotten one episode of Boondocks in, the Dr. King episode, and it was funny, solid and enjoyable. Not at all what I expected on Adult Swim. I think Witherspoon is awesome in general, too. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Hoax on January 17, 2006, 11:24:58 AM Boondocks, high-larious. This is some of the best social criticism of America I've ever seen. The fact that it cracks me up hard at least twice per episode is an added bonus. Riley's character alone puts a smile on my face almost every time, then I start to feel really bad when sometimes I think there are probably very few African Americans watching this show.
BSG fucking Friday is the stupidest day ever to put new episodes. Fuck them for that. I managed to miss the re-run last night (fuck!) but I think they do it again on Thursday or something. Fuckers. Oh and nothing about the Pegasus has been done "well" that was a shitty hamhanded way to move the plot and I for one was not very happy with it. I'd rip into it more but like I said I haven't seen last week's ep and we're just getting going with season2. Anime, while I will mourn the loss of Teen Titans more then anyone, god I fucking loved that show there is some good anime out there. Full Metal Panic is fucking brilliant if you dont laugh at that show you are broken, or old. RahXephon is a good one, so much better then EVA on so many levels. It is very anime though so I'm not sure it is a great choice for american audiences. GITS:SAC is just fucking great, I really challenge anyone who doesn't think it is great to explain. It does everything the movies do wrong right, an all around great product. I'd like to see them play Elfen Lied, because that show is a really twisted/sad/ugly/good/stupid/weird show. You dont get enough of that level of mind-fuck in America. Anyways I could talk anime for awhile but this isn't really the place for that. It is definitely true though there are tons of really really bad anime. The same way there are 20 12oz mice for every AQHF. Hell there are <insert number here> MMO's and none of them are any good. We should be used to this by now. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on January 17, 2006, 11:41:01 AM sometimes I think there are probably very few African Americans watching this show. Well, Dr. King did really rip into them. ;-) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on January 17, 2006, 11:42:51 AM BSG fucking Friday is the stupidest day ever to put new episodes. Fuck them for that. I managed to miss the re-run last night (fuck!) but I think they do it again on Thursday or something. Fuckers. Oh and nothing about the Pegasus has been done "well" that was a shitty hamhanded way to move the plot and I for one was not very happy with it. I'd rip into it more but like I said I haven't seen last week's ep and we're just getting going with season2. Do like all the other unfortunate people that not only don't get it on tv, but never will. Or at least not in the next couple of years. Use teh internet!!1 Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on January 17, 2006, 11:49:36 AM TIVO is life. Love thy TIVO.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on January 17, 2006, 11:50:42 AM Full Metal Panic is fucking brilliant if you dont laugh at that show you are broken, or old. I didn't care for season 2 near as much. Then again - I think they told all the story they needed to in Season 1. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on January 17, 2006, 11:55:00 AM TIVO is life. Love thy TIVO. DVR saves relationships.Cold dead hands and prying and whatnot. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Stormwaltz on January 17, 2006, 12:00:15 PM GITS:SAC is just fucking great, I really challenge anyone who doesn't think it is great to explain. It does everything the movies do wrong right, an all around great product. I think it's okay. It's a genre that's fairly rare - a science fiction police procedural. It aggrevates me for two diametrically opposed reasons: 1) It doesn't always explain its technological assumptions. It assumes you've always followed GitS, and don't need to be told what a ghost is, how braincases work, etc. I haven't seen or read any of GitS. Never been much for cyberpunk, and that's a barrier to entry. 2) When they do explain things, they throw the writerly mantra of "show, don't tell" right out the freaking window. It seems like every other episode there's a 60-120 second montage of cars driving by while someone drones exposition in a voice over. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on January 17, 2006, 12:02:15 PM TIVO is life. Love thy TIVO. Amen, bow at the altar that is TIVO. All hail the TIVO. Quote from: schild Yea, I had to stop watching Naruto. The manga moved much faster. As for you Haemcow, I suggest you rent some Ghibli stuff (Spirited Away, etc). Though I'd still recommend Jungle Wa Itsumo to anyone. That shit kills me. Naruto reminded me of Dragonball Z if DBZ had been drawn by an accomplished artist. Other than that, it was total fucking shit. They spent 30 fucking minutes in one epsiode talking about fighting. TALKING ABOUT FIGHTING, while posing as if the Rock of fucking Gibralter was getting passed through their anuses. It was like watching an Internet message board discussion given ghey anime form. I DO NOT GET IT. THIS IS NOT STORYTELLING, IT'S WHACKABATION. STOP IT, ASSTARDS. Also, after your recommendation of Colorful, I'm not sure I could watch any anime you recommend to me. Especially Jungle Wa Itsumo, after watching just pieces of one episode. The only complaint about the Pegasus segment of the latest BSG was the sort of "too pat" ending for the last episode. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on January 18, 2006, 05:41:57 AM David Cross from Arrested Development on the show being canceled - Linky (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3672205260912971901&q=arrested+development)
Laughed my ass off :-D Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Strazos on January 18, 2006, 09:24:41 AM As Far as Anime goes, I have to say that I loathe most of it.
Stuff I like: Cowboy Bepop, GitS (all iterations), Witch Hunter Robin, Full Metal Alchemist (It took me awhile to like this one), FLCL, Trigun, Lupin the 3rd, Princess Mononoke, Read or Die. Other than that, I'm really picky about what I can really stand to watch. I just find a lot of it to be very, very stupid. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Hoax on January 18, 2006, 09:32:56 AM Yeah there is a ton of stupid shit in anime, hell almost all of it is either those fucking sweat drop things (god damn I hate that shit) or some iteration of fanservice. I mean there are a ton of decent shows just ruined by one of those two things. I think I'd like to bring the Boondocks to Japan see what the kids over there think, I wonder if they would get it.
Oh FCLC is fucking le brilliant good call there. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 18, 2006, 09:51:51 AM Too bad everyone lists FLCL yet 99% of the people who watch it have no fucking clue what it's about.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Viin on January 18, 2006, 10:02:35 AM I think I've seen FLCL maybe 3 times now, but I still have no idea what is going on. It's still funny though.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on January 18, 2006, 10:06:56 AM My friend (you know, the one that has driven multiple people to quit WoW) was visiting last weekend and I had to get forceful with him as I explained that there was no fucking way we were going to watch a TV show while it was actually airing. That's the first rule of TiVo.
I have had to put down the anime. Reasons all listed in this thread. I actually like Champloo, and I think I must be the only one. I don't watch it much, though. Never seen FLCL but at this juncture I don't have an inclination. My free time is divided up amongst games only: DQVIII, EVE, the Character Selection screen of WoW, with small bits of DSII, a new Morrowind char, Forza, Stubbs, ShadowHearts (awesome game, I need to give this more time in the tray), Katamari. No time for TV, and I have a huge number of Invader Zim on the TiVo if I ever do. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Nevermore on January 18, 2006, 10:48:06 AM My friend (you know, the one that has driven multiple people to quit WoW) was visiting last weekend and I had to get forceful with him as I explained that there was no fucking way we were going to watch a TV show while it was actually airing. That's the first rule of TiVo. Amen to that. It's so nice to watch an 'hour' show in 40 minutes. I have to say there's a pretty good selection of prime time broadcasting right now. Currently I'm TiVoing BSG, Grey's Anatomy, Arrested Development, 24, House, The Shield and Lost. Throw in some Good Eats and Who's Line reruns and that's about all the tv I need. Anything else that's currently airing that really shouldn't be missed? Not counting anime, GitS is about the only anime I've liked in the past couple of years. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on January 18, 2006, 10:56:50 AM Anything else that's currently airing that really shouldn't be missed? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sairon on January 18, 2006, 11:00:05 AM I'l have to throw Berserk into the anime mix, I absolutely loved Berserk. Also worth checking out is Planet ES (http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1244,xkqkfo,planet_es.html), it's the only anime drama I've seen worth watching apart from Hikaru No Go, it's very watchable once you get into it.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on January 18, 2006, 11:12:58 AM My friend (you know, the one that has driven multiple people to quit WoW) was visiting last weekend and I had to get forceful with him as I explained that there was no fucking way we were going to watch a TV show while it was actually airing. That's the first rule of TiVo. Amen to that. It's so nice to watch an 'hour' show in 40 minutes. Or football or baseball games in under 2 hours. It's amazing how much fuckoff time there is in football and baseball broadcasts, and I don't just mean commercials. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on January 18, 2006, 11:17:56 AM Same with hockey. I finally wised up and set a Wish List Season Pass for Canucks games. Now I can play Eve all night, go to bed, and watch a full game in less than 2 hours. I :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: my TiVo. I think there are several body parts I would give up before giving up TiVo. I mean, who REALLY needs a spleen?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Nevermore on January 18, 2006, 11:45:20 AM Amen to that. It's so nice to watch an 'hour' show in 40 minutes. Or football or baseball games in under 2 hours. It's amazing how much fuckoff time there is in football and baseball broadcasts, and I don't just mean commercials. The only time it backfires is like this past Sunday, when the show I had set to record started 15 minutes late because of the football fuckoff time. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on January 18, 2006, 01:59:27 PM Or football or baseball games in under 2 hours. Baseball is even easier. I just pretend it doesn't exist. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on January 18, 2006, 02:06:20 PM Baseball is even easier. I just pretend it doesn't exist. I don't get Baseball... Football I like, I'd even watch it if the other guy I know that understands it and I can comment it over beer with lived in the same zone. Basketball I watch all the NBA I can get my hands on, but Baseball is just weird. The only game I get less is Cricket (or however you spell that). I remember, a couple of years back, I was in England and got sick, so I had to watch TV all day. There was Cricket on, and I wasted like 5+ hours and still had no fucking clue what's going on... btw a friend told me both ABC and Showtime made a bid for Arrested to buy it off Fox and air the remainder of Season 4 \o/ Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on January 18, 2006, 02:42:48 PM Some interesting rumors about DC Comics themed animation shows, including Justice League Unlimited and Teen Titans (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=b0989d6ebe8d2ae5e3503cfe788dbe38&threadid=56059).
I've never gotten into the Teen Titans cartoon, but the JLU and the new WB Batman cartoon are both good. I'd welcome more out of that studio. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Nevermore on January 18, 2006, 02:48:54 PM I remember, a couple of years back, I was in England and got sick, so I had to watch TV all day. There was Cricket on, and I wasted like 5+ hours and still had no fucking clue what's going on... A friend of mine in the UK once told me a single game of cricket can last several days. I thought he was pulling my leg, so I looked up some rules for cricket (http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hosking/cricket/explanation.htm). Quote Cricket is a team sport for two teams of eleven players each. A formal game of cricket can last anything from an afternoon to several days. Right. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: pants on January 18, 2006, 03:11:29 PM Quote A friend of mine in the UK once told me a single game of cricket can last several days. I thought he was pulling my leg, so I looked up some rules for cricket (http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hosking/cricket/explanation.htm). A Test match, which is the old-skool version of cricket, lasts 5 days. Each day has 3 sessions of play, 11am - 1pm; 1.40pm - 3.40pm and 4pm - 6pm, so a full test match has 30 hours of joy and bliss (or pain if you're watching South Africa). One-day cricket has been around 25 years, as the name implies the rules have been modified so a game is finished in one day. In the last 2-3 years another variant has come around, called 20/20 cricket, which takes 3 hours to complete, right now its really popular, but old curmudgeons like me think its just a passing fad. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Righ on January 18, 2006, 05:00:35 PM You get an extension of play if the bowlers don't bowl 15 overs (six deliveries per over) an hour too - it's frequently more than 30 hours. International tests also tend to be played in series of five matches, so you regularly have more than 150 hours of play between two teams to determine the ulimate victor.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on January 18, 2006, 06:30:11 PM I watched cricket in England as well a few times. It's somehow engaging without knowing anything about it at all.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on January 18, 2006, 07:31:15 PM Lost is awesome. The italian chick tonight was way too hot.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on January 18, 2006, 07:51:38 PM Lost is awesome. The italian chick tonight was way too hot. I put up my feet when I walk in a new person's house. Fuck those guys. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Abagadro on January 18, 2006, 11:53:48 PM Lost is awesome. The italian chick tonight was way too hot. That was Monica Barladeanu. Here is her site which has some nice photos of her in not much: http://www.monicabarladeanu.ro Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 19, 2006, 01:22:54 AM Rowr.
As to cricket; *Insert Raphael Quote Here* Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on January 19, 2006, 01:34:37 AM You gotta know what a crumpet is to play cricket.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 19, 2006, 01:38:59 AM All I learned from that scene is that apparently, in Cricket, if you smack a large mutated turtle into a bin, you're awarded 4 runs.
Not sure I ever saw that on the BBC. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Murgos on January 19, 2006, 05:22:20 AM I watched cricket in England as well a few times. It's somehow engaging without knowing anything about it at all. Somehow I got this same effect watching curling at the last winter Olympics. I'm actually kind of looking forward to it coming around again. Chalk it up to a South Floridians fascination with ice. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Righ on January 19, 2006, 08:18:37 AM Curling rocks. ;)
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 19, 2006, 08:19:24 AM They're called 'stones'.
:wink: Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Righ on January 19, 2006, 08:26:40 AM Right, but then the pun doesnt work. :roll:
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 19, 2006, 08:37:04 AM That being my point.
:-D Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on January 19, 2006, 08:44:34 AM Curling is a lovely sport to watch on hangover mornings. They talk nice and quietly, there is no huge crowd noise, and the Canadian team has a couple of decent looking women to ogle between naps.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on January 20, 2006, 08:23:01 PM I'm past worried about where they're going with the Baltar character on BSG, and I'm heading into annoyed. Either just tell me he's batshit nuts, and be done with it, or relate to me what's going on in his head in some discernable way.
- MILD SPOILER BELOW- "I'm not going to hand humanity over to the Cylons. *ego crushed from a mild rebuke* Fuck it, here's a nuke." Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on January 23, 2006, 09:24:45 AM He is batshit insane, and/or possibly under Cylon control. If he is being directly manipulated, they aren't really doing a great job of it, so I am going with the "off his fucking rocker" explanation. I mean, if they were directly controlling him, why not have him detonate the nuke already? You know, before a_sharon_00248 landed in the brig.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Jain Zar on January 23, 2006, 02:12:03 PM Its not so much he is crazy as he is a colossal egotist with a sense of self importance that even outshines his libido.
Everything he does is primarily to benefit himself. He is the lord high narcissist of not only BSG, but possibly TV in general. He is that self absorbed. Why did he give Gina the nuke? Because he felt slighted by Roslin's letter, even though to my eyes it was trying to make him a better person. All he saw was insults, and how DARE anyone insult him!? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Hanzii on January 23, 2006, 02:12:12 PM That being my point. :-D The only great thing about curling is thinking about how pissed out of their scull the Scotsmen going home from the pub must have been, when they invented that game. "We need stones width handles, RAF insignia and wee brooms....!" I've invented weird games and competitions when drunk/stoned, but usually the rules (written in ballpoint on napkins or beermats) aren't readable and none of them has gone on to the fuckin' olympics. The really sad part about curling is, that I think it's the only game my country has ever won at the winter olympics... and we're supposed to be Scandinavians. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on January 23, 2006, 02:35:34 PM Its not so much he is crazy as he is a colossal egotist with a sense of self importance that even outshines his libido. Everything he does is primarily to benefit himself. He is the lord high narcissist of not only BSG, but possibly TV in general. He is that self absorbed. Why did he give Gina the nuke? Because he felt slighted by Roslin's letter, even though to my eyes it was trying to make him a better person. All he saw was insults, and how DARE anyone insult him!? I agree with all of that and still I think he is off his rocker, in addition. Unless you hold the theory that he does have a Cylon device of some sort in his head which is the source of his visions? I wasn't sure I was down with the Baltar-is-a-good-guy thing anyway. I just wish these plot developments weren't getting so cliche. And less deus ex machina, please. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Morfiend on January 23, 2006, 02:52:42 PM The Shield. That will be all.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on January 23, 2006, 03:02:58 PM I wasn't sure I was down with the Baltar-is-a-good-guy thing anyway. I just wish these plot developments weren't getting so cliche. And less deus ex machina, please. That's been my only real gripe. The Cylon-human blood = cure for cancer stuff was too easy. I wonder if Roslin now somehow is connected to the Cylon hive-mind now that she has their blood in her. Otherwise, that was just too much deus ex. Same thing, IMO, with Boomer knocking out those hundreds of raiders when she hooked up to the Galactica. Too neat, too last second, too convienent. The week before though, I thought was perfect, especially since I called it when watching the previous episode. "None of them goes through with it, Gina-Six gets her". That wasn't too deux exy due to (my guess) that a Cylon wouldn't commit suicide due to it being a mortal sin and that Baltar wouldn't be able to kill the physical manifestation of his love. The only other path for Gina would be revenge. Baltar is just a horrible, selfish person that happens to be off his nut too. The survival of humanity means less to him than his own personal aggrandizement. The easiest example is the Cylon detector. It worked, it told him who's a Cylon and who's not. He just passed everyone and the Galactica nearly got blown up and Adama got shot for it. You'd think finding out who's a Cylon model and who's not might be a fundamental thing for human survival that you might want to take a bit seriously. Still, he's entertaining, especially when he retreats to his "fortress of insanitude". Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on January 23, 2006, 03:07:29 PM I miss the old Baltar.. the one who'd wax angry at the lighted-conehead Cylon.
Then again I miss the old silver clunkers, too. Beyond that I can't comment because I've only just started watching BSG and I still feel dirty every time I do it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on January 23, 2006, 08:30:28 PM Baltar reminds me of me.
The Shield has been great so far this season, this is the first time in a long time where I feel like I really need to tune in and find out what happens. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 24, 2006, 01:54:57 AM He reminds me of me too. Well, during that phase at Uni when I was mentally fucking that gorgeous blonde.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on January 24, 2006, 08:30:38 AM He reminds me of me too. Well, during that phase at Uni when I was mentally fucking that gorgeous blonde. You're still at Uni? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on January 24, 2006, 08:33:21 AM No. But I moved onto mentally fucking Brunettes.
Can't say why. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on January 24, 2006, 08:37:48 AM Redheads are where it is at man.....
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on January 27, 2006, 09:37:52 AM Finally caught last week's Battlestar on the TIVO last night. I have to agree with being a little disappointed in the deux ex machina manner in which Rosslin's life was saved. I'd much rather have seen them kill the character off and have to deal with the narrative consequences of that. And I LIKE her character, I just felt like they had written themselves into a corner and this was an easy way out. I also felt that way about the Gina Cylon being the one to cak the Admiral's character. It was too pat, too easy, and let everyone off. Of course, I did like the way they foreshadow Baltar going even farther off the deep fucking end after reading that letter.
Of course, the fact that the President has been saved by Cylon blood should cause SERIOUS problems in the future. All those people who followed her wily nily because of the prophecy that the dying leader would lead them to Kobol might just start to feel a little betrayed that not only did she not die (and thus may not be the person of prophecy they all believed) but she was saved by the Cylons on top of it? Could get ugly. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on January 27, 2006, 11:28:07 AM Wait until the cylon unicorns next season. Seriously, that show is lame.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on January 30, 2006, 11:59:41 AM Last BSG was better than the previous two. Baltar has waffled back to "enemy", Lee has the AIDS, and Rosslin is turning into a Cylon. I know we are one step away from "Who shot J.R.???!!one1" but I just can't stop watching.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on February 10, 2006, 08:27:04 AM If you didn't watch Surface this season, you missed a damn good season. There were times when I really wasn't sure where the show was going, and some of the characters weren't quite what I thought they should be. But as a whole, the 15-episode season really was pretty well-maintained. They didn't really pad the mystery out, they ended the season by telling you what was going on and then presenting that scenario to you. If it gets to a next season, and I hope it does, it'll be "what happens after" instead of the X-Files "let's keep it mysterious."
The season finale was one of the best, well-paced, exciting episodes of TV I've seen in a while. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on February 10, 2006, 08:46:25 AM I watched it and it was good fun! I actually went out of my way to record them and I'm not usually that attentive.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on February 10, 2006, 12:06:54 PM If it gets to a next season, and I hope it does, it'll be "what happens after" instead of the X-Files "let's keep it mysterious." Lost is "Let's Keep it Mysterious." Xfiles was textbook "What happens next" almost every episode of every season except the last one (which doesn't count, "THAT NO MULDER, NOOO!") was episodic. They solved something in every single one. Hell, I can remember the very few episodes that weren't episodic and they came around the release of the movie to tie it in and during huge emotional breaks. Alien/Creature wise, it was very much solved by the end of the episode. Though, I'll admit, it's not as "What happens next" as 24 which is not episodic at all but rather forced time progression. Also, Alias falls into the "let's keep it mysterious category." But we can assuredly blame JJ Abrams for both of those. Now, to get to my actual question. What the fuck is Surface? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on February 10, 2006, 02:46:36 PM I'm guessing a film with Al Pacino.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on February 11, 2006, 02:51:45 AM Surface is an NBC sci-fi-esque show on Monday nights. It just finished its first season, which was only 15 episodes. Think giant lizards from the earth's core slowly invading the oceans, breeding like crazy, etc. etc. There's a lot more to it than that, but that's the starting premise.
X-Files wrapped things up episodically, but there was an overarching storyline that they kept stringing out instead of providing any resolution. The so-called "Mythology" episodes dealing with the alien conspiracy are the ones I'm talking about. They strung that out for 9 seasons, about 5 seasons longer than they should have. And Lost is going for the "Keep it Mysterious" vibe. Surface didn't do that; there was very little padding in the main lizards story, because it really wasn't the whole story even though it looked like it would be. Surface and Invasion are the two "Lost-a-like" shows that started in the fall. I tried watching both, but gave up on Invasion after 5 episodes because the characters acted like dumbasses. I thought I'd give up on Surface first, but it was much better than I figured it would be. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on February 11, 2006, 07:00:49 AM I cried real tears when I thought Nim was dead. I cheered and drank a beer when I found out he wasn't. TV is an emotional roller coaster ride for me!
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on February 12, 2006, 04:59:52 PM So Arrested Development showed their last hurrahs over 2 hours on Friday. Wrapped it all up ini the usual quirky way, though the quality was only as good as the entire season's been. .
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on February 12, 2006, 05:30:36 PM If you didn't watch Surface this season, you missed a damn good season. You forgot the sarcasm tags and/or green text. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on February 12, 2006, 06:09:00 PM Love Monkey just got canceled. I can't even pretend to understand why. This one baffles me. After I get past the anger of most shows getting canceled, I can understand why. This one seemed to have all the trappings that make a good show. Meh.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on February 12, 2006, 11:40:16 PM I have a question, which I guess I can ask in here.
Why the hell is Prison Break a TV Series? That story would be pretty damn good for a movie. Get rid of all the stuff that happens outside, lose some of the characters and you can squeeze it into 2, 2 and a half hours. It would be ten times better as a movie. I find it kind of dull as a tv series and It'll probably just be booooh-ring in the next season. And they killed Cavaldi... err... Peter Stormare. What the fuck is up with that? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Righ on February 12, 2006, 11:50:02 PM He has several ongoing movie roles. Most of the rest of the cast don't have such busy diaries. I suspect he took the job on condition of not being roped in for several series.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on February 13, 2006, 03:22:53 AM So uh, Surface would be good if it weren't for the kid and his family. About to hit episode 9 and uhm, yea. I'm more interested in the bullshit biology side than the xfiles/teen drama combo they've got going.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sairon on February 13, 2006, 03:52:19 AM I've heard Peter Stormare is pursuing his career in music and decided to lay his acting career on hold for a while. Don't remember where I picked up these rumors though.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on February 13, 2006, 08:39:16 AM So uh, Surface would be good if it weren't for the kid and his family. About to hit episode 9 and uhm, yea. I'm more interested in the bullshit biology side than the xfiles/teen drama combo they've got going. I hated the kid Miles from the get go. I kept hoping Nim would eat his damn face off. But by the end of the season, I actually started to dig the kid. You'll see why in about 3 or 4 episodes. Like I said, there were some character beats I wouldn't have chosen, but by the last 2 shows, it really picks up from a story aspect. It's one of those shows where the characters aren't why I'm watching it, the story is. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on February 13, 2006, 11:44:01 AM Actually, Nim is the only one I've become attached to... he's adorable and looks just like I'd expect a baby dragon to look. (http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/heart.gif)
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on February 13, 2006, 04:00:51 PM This season of The Shield has been great.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Mr_PeaCH on February 14, 2006, 11:07:47 AM I haven't gotten swept up by a formulaic sitcom in some time but I'm finding myself getting attached to "How I Met Your Mother" aka that new show with Neil Patrick (Doogie Howser) Harris. A little hotness, a little humor... very cleverly written imo. ymmv
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Shockeye on February 14, 2006, 11:10:03 AM Love Monkey just got canceled. I can't even pretend to understand why. This one baffles me. After I get past the anger of most shows getting canceled, I can understand why. This one seemed to have all the trappings that make a good show. Meh. Stupid name + nobody watches = cancellation. As for you watching it, that doesn't count. People who download shows off bittorrent don't count when it comes to viewers. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on February 15, 2006, 09:21:23 AM If you didn't watch Surface this season, you missed a damn good season. I want to watch, but someone needs to air from Ep 1 so TiVo-san can catch me up. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on February 15, 2006, 12:17:47 PM Surface was being replayed on Sci-Fi channels on some nights, and they even did marathons. Check there.
And if that fails, BT it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Hoax on February 15, 2006, 12:36:31 PM I need to BT like all five seasons of Smallville, because I can and Kristen Kruek (no idea on spelling) is so incredibly hot it makes me sort of ill.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on February 16, 2006, 05:40:03 AM I need to BT like all five seasons of Smallville, because I can and Kristen Kruek (no idea on spelling) is so incredibly hot it makes me sort of ill. (http://t_d_farrin.tripod.com/smallville/cast/frontpage/kristinkreuk.gif) (http://blog.doctissimo.fr/php/blog/au_pays_des_filles/images/kristin%20kreuk.jpg) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on February 16, 2006, 05:50:19 AM She looks a bit like a 14 year old hooker on heroin in that pic... in most of the rest, she still looks about 14. You are all pervy in my book, anyway.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Tebonas on February 16, 2006, 06:08:06 AM Friggin huge eyes. Is that one of those "Grey" aliens with makeup and a wig?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on February 16, 2006, 08:20:27 AM Surface was being replayed on Sci-Fi channels on some nights, and they even did marathons. Check there. And if that fails, BT it. I think TiVo-san is getting some of them, not sure. My wife is in charge of that. There sure is a lot of bullshit in the program list, that's all I know. As for BT, my skills are weak; I still haven't gotten the Doctor Who Christmas Special since being dropped from my super UK torrent site. If you want to msg me some places, I promise to look at the msg and remember it for at least two months. The torrent sites you get from google searches are largely ass. I still haven't gotten to the halfway point of Densha Otoko, though. TV is nice, but games are better. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on February 16, 2006, 10:03:24 AM You've been watching Densha Otoko? Good man.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on February 16, 2006, 10:06:26 AM You've been watching Densha Otoko? Good man. Once again, your recommendation. I'll get to Yoshitake (?) eventually. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Hoax on February 16, 2006, 01:32:46 PM Friggin huge eyes. Is that one of those "Grey" aliens with makeup and a wig? You go to hell and you die. Signe, I'll forgive because she makes me laugh. Your just a lil european yes-man to Ironwood's rants, I piss on your country! WE HAVE THE BOMBS STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER. :rock_hard: And so on, never make fun of her again I have brought my number of "OMFG HAWT" celebrity crushes down to 4, but those four can not be spoken of by the likes of you. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Tebonas on February 16, 2006, 01:54:58 PM Only because you won't tell me all the names of all your celebrity crushes. Of course I will have to wait for Ironwood to speak ill of them and then agree.
Can I first die and then go to hell? Less paperwork. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Cheddar on February 16, 2006, 08:04:03 PM I am a huge fan of Lost, and have found more evidence to hate everything that is UK.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g1SvmEcYWT8&search=%22Lost%22 Why the fuck do we not get rad promo videos like this? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on February 16, 2006, 10:07:17 PM That actually made more sense than the actual show. Go figure.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on February 17, 2006, 02:24:09 AM Couple of Things :
1 - Sorry, Teb, but Kristen IS hawt. She is totally supermega, heart of the sun type hawt. She will be a welcome addition to my skinning wall. 2 - What the fuck is going on with that Lost Video ? 3 - Our Battlestar Galactica had the drumbeat intro back again last time !!! Hooray !!! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Tebonas on February 17, 2006, 02:36:10 AM 1. You only say that to preserve my status as your undercover toady. I fully understand.
2. - 3. Yeah, I missed that drumbeat as well. The Celtic Song didn't work without that contrast. Damn, did it again. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on February 17, 2006, 05:06:13 AM I saw that Lost thingy on TV while the season was out.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on February 18, 2006, 01:37:47 AM Just finished the first season of Surface. And holy balls.
Second season now plz. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Signe on February 18, 2006, 05:56:28 AM Aren't those little Nim thingys adorable? They're the perfect pet. They snuggle with you and can fry your enemies. I want 3.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on February 18, 2006, 01:13:52 PM Aren't those little Nim thingys adorable? They're the perfect pet. They snuggle with you and can fry your enemies. I want 3. I think the options for the Nim pets are one or all of them. I don't think you can have just 3. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Hokers on February 19, 2006, 04:37:37 PM Since the wonder box named Tivo has been mentioned a few times in this thread, just thought that I would alert you to a problem that has hit a few Tivo machines. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=283908&page=1&pp=30 The problem is that the machine will cut off the end of recorded programs, mine started to do this about a week ago, but I didn't take action till it decided to cut off the last 8 min of BG. That got my attention. Fix is to do a shutdown reboot. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on February 19, 2006, 11:44:37 PM and how about that last Battlestar Galactica? Apollo is top dog now. Woot.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on February 20, 2006, 10:01:14 AM and how about that last Battlestar Galactica? Apollo is top dog now. Woot. BSG has entered stall-mode, apparently. Next week, the corpse of Larry Hagman will be captaining Pegasus. Why the fuck are they having elections? The Colonies were destroyed just eight months ago. Stupid. Baltar can be an evil prick without this lame plot device. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on February 20, 2006, 10:16:10 AM So - I've taken to listening to the podcasts at work...
Recall when Baltar was in the opera house on Cobal with Six and she showed him "the child"? Originally. The scene was written as follows: 1. Baltar goes into a white room. 2. Dirk Benedict walks up to him and says, "Hi Baltar, I'm god." Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Hokers on February 20, 2006, 12:06:20 PM I do agree that advancement of the plot has been forgotten about, but I do think that in the episode where Baltar becomes VP, they mentioned that there would be elections in 6 months for Pres. They way that the last few episodes have been I am shocked that they remembered that. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on February 20, 2006, 01:29:11 PM 1. Baltar goes into a white room. 2. Dirk Benedict walks up to him and says, "Hi Baltar, I'm god." GOLD! I plotzed! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on February 20, 2006, 01:41:28 PM I do agree that advancement of the plot has been forgotten about, but I do think that in the episode where Baltar becomes VP, they mentioned that there would be elections in 6 months for Pres. They way that the last few episodes have been I am shocked that they remembered that. OK, maybe it's just me but in the "Previously..." portion of the show I swear to the Flying Sphagetti Monster that they put footage in there that wasn't in previous episodes. Neither my wife nor I remembered the scene where Adama puts Engineer Man in command of Pegasus. Did we just miss that, or are they slipping things in? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Raging Turtle on February 20, 2006, 01:58:33 PM Where the fuck did that Lost promo come from. :-o
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on February 20, 2006, 02:07:39 PM I do agree that advancement of the plot has been forgotten about, but I do think that in the episode where Baltar becomes VP, they mentioned that there would be elections in 6 months for Pres. They way that the last few episodes have been I am shocked that they remembered that. OK, maybe it's just me but in the "Previously..." portion of the show I swear to the Flying Sphagetti Monster that they put footage in there that wasn't in previous episodes. Neither my wife nor I remembered the scene where Adama puts Engineer Man in command of Pegasus. Did we just miss that, or are they slipping things in? I saw the scene too and thought, I know I was sleepy last week when I was watching this, but... Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on February 20, 2006, 02:11:12 PM Is it me, or is the Shield slipping this season? I'm not really into any of the plots other then figuring out who got Danny prego.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on February 20, 2006, 06:33:24 PM OK, maybe it's just me but in the "Previously..." portion of the show I swear to the Flying Sphagetti Monster that they put footage in there that wasn't in previous episodes. Neither my wife nor I remembered the scene where Adama puts Engineer Man in command of Pegasus. Did we just miss that, or are they slipping things in? They've done that for the past couple of episodes (may have been farther back, but there was a scene with Starbuck they used as a "previously on" that didn't happen in an episode). Either they're being very clever or they're using material that they've cut from previous episodes that's somewhat important back story. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on February 20, 2006, 07:00:38 PM OK, maybe it's just me but in the "Previously..." portion of the show I swear to the Flying Sphagetti Monster that they put footage in there that wasn't in previous episodes. Neither my wife nor I remembered the scene where Adama puts Engineer Man in command of Pegasus. Did we just miss that, or are they slipping things in? They've done that for the past couple of episodes (may have been farther back, but there was a scene with Starbuck they used as a "previously on" that didn't happen in an episode). Either they're being very clever or they're using material that they've cut from previous episodes that's somewhat important back story. I think it was from episode 13 or 14 from season 2. It wasn't from the last 3 eps. edit: clarification on the season. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on February 20, 2006, 09:36:42 PM Is it me, or is the Shield slipping this season? I'm not really into any of the plots other then figuring out who got Danny prego. It's you. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Riggswolfe on February 21, 2006, 11:59:14 AM The only TV I watch is BSG.
For those of you asking about the "Previously on BSG" parts and saying you hadn't seen some of those shots before. They are from editted scenes. I beleive Ron Moore confirmed it in his podcasts. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on February 21, 2006, 12:00:03 PM Lots of shows use the "previously" opening to remind you of the setup for plot elements that will be dealt with in that episode. Not necessarily from the last few episodes, sometimes SG1 will show things from a few seasons ago when they dredge up an old plotline or character.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on February 21, 2006, 12:18:33 PM Lost does that shit all the time with the previous stuff. Scares the crap out of me too sometimes because they start dealing with season one stuff and there's a moment of panic where I say, "OMG REPEAT! OH NOES!"
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on February 22, 2006, 10:18:52 AM Lots of shows use the "previously" opening to remind you of the setup for plot elements that will be dealt with in that episode. Not necessarily from the last few episodes, sometimes SG1 will show things from a few seasons ago when they dredge up an old plotline or character. Right, BSG goes as far bask as they need to in order to prime the current crop of left-field scripts. I'm fine with that. It is good to confirm that they are putting in unaired scenes [re: Riggs' post] because now we won't have to pause the show and debate about when the hell such and such happened. I remember we were confused in a recent Starbuck episode, but we were really sure there was no scene in which Tigh criticized Adama's assignment to Pegasus command. What the hell happened to that "Cylon device" they found in the CIC in season one? RARG! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on February 22, 2006, 10:28:53 AM What the hell happened to that "Cylon device" they found in the CIC in season one? RARG! They used it when Boomer blew up the cylon basestar near Kobol. Apparently it was some sort of Cylon ID transponder. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on February 22, 2006, 10:55:32 AM My favorite podcast moment so far to paraphrase, "I'm sure there is a fan somewhere thinking, 'If this were SG-1 they would have shot someone already.'"
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Mr_PeaCH on February 22, 2006, 11:25:23 AM Lost does that shit all the time with the previous stuff. Scares the crap out of me too sometimes because they start dealing with season one stuff and there's a moment of panic where I say, "OMG REPEAT! OH NOES!" Tonight = repeat (of the 2 hour pilot episode). Just sayin' Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on February 22, 2006, 01:04:15 PM Lost does that shit all the time with the previous stuff. Scares the crap out of me too sometimes because they start dealing with season one stuff and there's a moment of panic where I say, "OMG REPEAT! OH NOES!" Tonight = repeat (of the 2 hour pilot episode). Just sayin' OMG FUCK THOSE PEOPLE IN THE ASS, WE'VE SEEN THE PILOT A BILLION TIMES BY NOW! Are they trying to remind the regular viewers that they have completely ignored a bunch of storylines? Grrrrr. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on February 22, 2006, 01:23:35 PM These people hate corners!
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on February 22, 2006, 01:42:40 PM He hates the cans!
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on February 22, 2006, 06:43:13 PM I've really come around the last few weeks on Boondocks. I watched about 40% of "the Garden Party" and was mostly kind of bored.
Sam Jackson playing himself as a white gangsta wannabe is pure fun though. For some reason, I enjoy 12 oz. mouse. Don't ask me why. Justice League is airing again, too. It's usually pretty fun. Really looking forward to the Sopranos, and I might even give Big Love (Paxton as a Mormon with three wives, hinting at interesting family issues and corruption in church hierarchy) a shot. I fell out of the BSG loop, but I'll probably catch up over the summer when the next batch of dvds hits. Other then that, been watching a bit of the Daily Show and Colbert Report. Colbert is fucking hilarious, but I'm still surprised he hasn't been cancelled yet. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Otis on February 22, 2006, 11:40:16 PM Why the fuck are they having elections? The Colonies were destroyed just eight months ago. Stupid. Baltar can be an evil prick without this lame plot device. This was actually brought up at the start of the first season. Zarek's reason for taking the prison ship hostage was to get Roslin to step down and for the survivors to elect a leader, someone who didn't simply inherit the role. Apollo got Zarek to chill out by promising that there would be elections at the end of the president's current term. Six had Baltar run for VP (again in the first season) seemlingly so that he could make a move on the presidency when the elections came up. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Abagadro on February 23, 2006, 12:18:45 AM I am completely digging the battle scenes in BSG, particularly when a Battlestar goes up against a Base Star. Whoever is putting those together is doing a great job.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: schild on February 23, 2006, 12:23:15 AM The February stuff for House and Grey's Anatomy has been awesome. Good TV there.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: squirrel on February 23, 2006, 12:27:20 AM The February stuff for House and Grey's Anatomy has been awesome. Good TV there. Don't watch House, i kind of hate hospital/doctor shows. But my G/F watches Grey's and i have been enjoying it, although the main character (meredith?) is one of the weaker characters imo. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Trippy on February 23, 2006, 03:11:06 AM The February stuff for House and Grey's Anatomy has been awesome. Good TV there. Don't watch House, i kind of hate hospital/doctor shows. But my G/F watches Grey's and i have been enjoying it, although the main character (meredith?) is one of the weaker characters imo.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: squirrel on February 23, 2006, 03:43:28 AM Yeah the "OMG we're all having teh sexxor!" is a little much. However Sandra Oh as Dr. Yang and the guy who plays O'Malley are basically worth the hour for me.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on February 23, 2006, 09:22:26 AM New Deadwoods are about 3 weeks out. WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on February 23, 2006, 09:32:47 AM Other then that, been watching a bit of the Daily Show and Colbert Report. Colbert is fucking hilarious, but I'm still surprised he hasn't been cancelled yet. Colbert report has a few things going for it that let it dodge the bullet of cancellation: 1) Comedy Central isn't Network T.V. They've always had "lower" ratings and don't have this legacy mindset of "OMG not top 20, axe it!" that plagues the broadcast channels. 2) CC knows good comedy and to give it a chance to grow. Daily Show didn't start out with the ratings it now has, it took time and John Stuart to get there. 3) What else are they going to run in that timeslot? More reruns of 1/2-hour standup from a few years back? More reruns of South Park or Chappelle or Drawn Together? 4) The Republican slant. Sure, it's in a really mocking, derisive way, but I think you'd be surprised how many folks take it as light-hearted satire rather than as a stab at the double-think that spawns it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on February 23, 2006, 10:12:17 AM 3) What else are they going to run in that timeslot? More reruns of 1/2-hour standup from a few years back? More reruns of South Park or Chappelle or Drawn Together? They could always try letting Colin Quinn or Adam Carolla flounder around on stage for a while. Colbert Report is fantastic, and they've been trying to put together something for that slot for a long, long time. "Tough Crowd" and "Too Late" are examples of shows that really just sucked right out the door, but got a fair shot to be good. Compared to those two, Colbert Report seems like Robot Jesus. Ratings must be skyrocketing when set next to what they used to be for that slot. Besides, as a followup to the Daily Show it just fits. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on February 23, 2006, 10:18:18 AM I agree, Colbert Report is funny, and it has room to grow and mature if they let it continue. The time slot is good at picking up the fans from the Daily Show and moving them into something that's closely relevant. There are great points to the show that need to be the core, and there are weaker points that should be removed or reevaluated.
Pros: - The Word: without a doubt the funniest thing on the show. It's pure gold everytime. - The Republican Slant: funny enough to be mocking, not so far off as to piss off actual Republicans. - Colbert's Timing: it's on par if not better than Stuart's timing sense. He's got a deadpan brilliance that is unmatched. Cons: - The interviews: They need better guests and more work. That will happen as the show gains momentum though. - Gimmicks: The show needs to steer clear of gimmicky comedy and hit hard on the points that got them there. Political satire. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on February 23, 2006, 11:00:35 AM Comedy Central needs to stop fucking with my DVR.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on February 23, 2006, 03:22:09 PM Tough Crowd was awesome. FOOLS!
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: WayAbvPar on February 23, 2006, 03:22:40 PM Tough Crowd was awesome. FOOLS! Agreed. I loved it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on February 23, 2006, 03:25:47 PM Colin Quinn and his lackeys suck. The guy can't speak and they aren't funny. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on February 23, 2006, 04:03:51 PM Other then that, been watching a bit of the Daily Show and Colbert Report. Colbert is fucking hilarious, but I'm still surprised he hasn't been cancelled yet. Colbert report has a few things going for it that let it dodge the bullet of cancellation: 1) Comedy Central isn't Network T.V. They've always had "lower" ratings and don't have this legacy mindset of "OMG not top 20, axe it!" that plagues the broadcast channels. 2) CC knows good comedy and to give it a chance to grow. Daily Show didn't start out with the ratings it now has, it took time and John Stuart to get there. 3) What else are they going to run in that timeslot? More reruns of 1/2-hour standup from a few years back? More reruns of South Park or Chappelle or Drawn Together? 4) The Republican slant. Sure, it's in a really mocking, derisive way, but I think you'd be surprised how many folks take it as light-hearted satire rather than as a stab at the double-think that spawns it. Ohhhh, trust me. I've watched plenty of late night Comedy Central. I have insomnia to rival Schild's. It's not that Colbert isn't a real funny guy (he was head writer for the Daily Show for years), I just question whether an audience will stay with him through a half hour show. Stewart, and before him Craig Kilborne, are generally charismatic and charming. Alot of natural public speaking talent there. Colbert is very dry, and he does have a little bit of a stutter/catch when he's doing those long monologues. He's also a little nebbish/geeky, where as Stewart comes off as hip. Even Dave Attell (spelling? the Insomniac guy), who was bald and out of shape, has more personal magnetism then Colbert. And I'm with Margalis and Way.... Tough Crowd was good. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on February 23, 2006, 04:06:54 PM New Deadwoods are about 3 weeks out. WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! What? It's back this spring? Damn. I thought it was this summer. Sweargin! Cocksucker! Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on February 23, 2006, 05:18:06 PM I hate "The Word" on Colbert, for me it's always the worst part of the show. It's so one-note.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Paelos on February 23, 2006, 05:22:16 PM I hate "The Word" on Colbert, for me it's always the worst part of the show. It's so one-note. You sir, have no funny. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on February 23, 2006, 08:42:34 PM Quote from: Wikipedia Comedy Central has announced that The Colbert Report's contract is being extended with an entire season in the contract, rather than the original contract's eight-week run. Viewership of The Colbert Report is up nearly 141% over the same time slot last year, and it has been keeping 86% of The Daily Show's viewership. Comedy Central management reportedly said they are thrilled with the results, and said extending the show was one of the easiest decisions they have ever made. The show debuted October 17, 2005 for an eight week run under its initial contract. On November 2, based on the strong ratings for the show's first two weeks, Comedy Central and Colbert announced they had signed for an additional year, through the end of 2006. I think it's safe to say, he's in no danger of cancellation. And Tough Crowd had some moments, but it had some MAJOR weak points. 1) Nick DiPaolo. The man is not funny. Ever. 2) Every conversation dissolving into a shouting match. 3) The skits. Every skit was awful, seemed like it was improvised by people who have no skill at improv. The actual debate and the jokes that came out of that were good sometimes, when people would shut the fuck up and let someone else talk. But some of the participants, like DiPaolo, were just brutally stupid people who had difficulty separating their ignorance from a "common sense" viewpoint. Also, this could be fun: Quote The Colbert Report is being followed up by a second spin-off of The Daily Show, a show called Red State Diaries to be hosted by Lewis Black, slated to debut in 2006. Don't know if Black can carry a show like that, though. Never seen him trying "man on the street" stuff before, so I don't know how strong he'll be. The Insomniac style format that it seems to imply seems to be popular, though, so it could click. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Johny Cee on February 23, 2006, 09:04:16 PM Quote from: Wikipedia Comedy Central has announced that The Colbert Report's contract is being extended with an entire season in the contract, rather than the original contract's eight-week run. Viewership of The Colbert Report is up nearly 141% over the same time slot last year, and it has been keeping 86% of The Daily Show's viewership. Comedy Central management reportedly said they are thrilled with the results, and said extending the show was one of the easiest decisions they have ever made. The show debuted October 17, 2005 for an eight week run under its initial contract. On November 2, based on the strong ratings for the show's first two weeks, Comedy Central and Colbert announced they had signed for an additional year, through the end of 2006. I think it's safe to say, he's in no danger of cancellation. And Tough Crowd had some moments, but it had some MAJOR weak points. 1) Nick DiPaolo. The man is not funny. Ever. 2) Every conversation dissolving into a shouting match. 3) The skits. Every skit was awful, seemed like it was improvised by people who have no skill at improv. The actual debate and the jokes that came out of that were good sometimes, when people would shut the fuck up and let someone else talk. But some of the participants, like DiPaolo, were just brutally stupid people who had difficulty separating their ignorance from a "common sense" viewpoint. Good for Colbert. The biggest reason I liked Tough Crowd was it came off as a bunch of fairly funny guys who genuinely liked each other and had a history together getting together and shooting the shit. Colin Quinn is definitely one of those "love him or hate him" type guys, though. You either thought the stammering was endearing or obnoxious. The Corolla show was just a poor idea. It might have been different if he was there with a couple other people to play off of.... Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Margalis on February 23, 2006, 09:18:56 PM Quinn not being able to speak properly does grow on you as he makes jokes at his own expense and totally botches what would otherwise have been real zingers.
Nick DiPaolo was one of the worse guys. He wasn't really very funny at all. Some of the skits were lame but some of them were gold. My favorite segment of the show was when a little girl who was the new star of Les Miserables was on the show. They talked for a while and then in the end Quinn said: "You have no idea who I am do you?" And she kind of laughed and smiled and said no she didn't. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Otis on February 24, 2006, 02:30:25 AM Even Dave Attell (spelling? the Insomniac guy), who was bald and out of shape, has more personal magnetism then Colbert. Man, I miss that show. It was the only "travel show" made worthwhile. One of my favorite bits is when he's visiting a sewage treatment plant, and over the giant, awful vats of sewage he points out a life preserver hung on the wall and asks (paraphrased), "is that there in case someone falls in?" "Yeah," a technician replies. "You should put a shotgun there instead. If I fell in, I'd just want you to shoot me." Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: shiznitz on February 24, 2006, 06:29:38 AM Colbert is very dry, and he does have a little bit of a stutter/catch when he's doing those long monologues. He's also a little nebbish/geeky, where as Stewart comes off as hip. John Stewart only became hip when the show started doing well. I am sure Colbert will be considered hip soon, too. That day will be marked by his first interview in Maxim. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on February 24, 2006, 08:29:46 AM New Deadwoods are about 3 weeks out. WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Well let's all have a drink to celebrate the return of the cocksuckers! EDIT: Colbert's good when you are in the mood for it. The interviews are definitely the weakest part of the show, but the word is 95% gold, 5% still pretty decent. He's probably one of the best guys I know at making fun of something so subtly that the people he's making fun of just don't get it. Of course, I most often fast forward over the interviews on the Daily Show anyway, so I do the same on Colbert. Lewis Black in his own show could be funny as hell. I love his stand up. I don't think Colbert is in any danger of cancellation. They gave him a renewal past his initial 8 weeks within the first week of broadcast. I think he's gotten better ratings in that time slot than anything else they've had there. Tough Crowd was occasionally funny, but Quinn's stammering really kills a lot of the better bits he would do. He's a better writer than a stand up. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on February 24, 2006, 01:11:27 PM Patrice O'Neil is funny. Or was, when he was getting work.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Sky on February 24, 2006, 01:26:21 PM I liked Patrice and the scary little uncle Fester guy. It was a good show, excepting Nick and skits as mentioned.
Stewart was hip before the Daily Show, in my book. His old talk show kicked a lot of ass, always attractive female guests + great bands and funny skits (like the frog race he had just to set up him licking one and triggering a psychedelic vignette). Helmet, Slayer, Manson (pre-Sweet Dreams), etc. A definite metal edge, but he had a decent variety, it's just been so long I can't remember. The W0rd rocks. And all tv should be viewed on Tivo/DVR imo. Commercials and long boring interviews with actors are teh sux. I tend to like Stewart's interviews with politicians and authors, even if they aren't great. Colbert is too schticky to give a good interview. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on February 26, 2006, 12:31:26 AM Colbert's getting better at the interview as time goes on. He's actually thrown some intelligent arguments the way of some of his guests, and left them without any real response. Like the one guest he had who was saying that he supported the Iraq War but never really believed that Saddam had WMDs or was connected to Al-Quaida, but felt it was worth it to get him out of power. Or the recent guy who's like the sole Republican at the New York Times. He's done a decent job of illustrating to these people that you either have to be completely gung-ho Bush "I believe everything he says" or ultimately against them.
Amazingly, Bill O'Reilly has admitted he liked the Colbert Report. He says it's not mean spirited and doesn't tear others down for gags. I don't think he gets it. (Pssssst... Colbert is you. Egotism and all.) Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on February 27, 2006, 07:38:51 AM Amazingly, Bill O'Reilly has admitted he liked the Colbert Report. He says it's not mean spirited and doesn't tear others down for gags. I don't think he gets it. (Pssssst... Colbert is you. Egotism and all.) O'Reilly has never really been that well acquainted with what we like to call reality. I think DePaolo's funny in a "OMFG he did NOT just say that" sort of way. I'd probably want to cockpunch him in real life. Patrice O'Neal is getting regular guest spots on The Office. EDIT: House STILL kicks ass, despite the "crazy, weird, rare disease of the week" type of storytelling. All that is just window dressing for the character moments anyway. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on February 27, 2006, 01:20:10 PM Just watched the BSG from Friday.
Good shit that. I love the way they are taking it. Should make for some more interesting shows. Between this one, and the "Scar" one, I love it. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on February 27, 2006, 01:52:25 PM I don't get how Boomer was reborn on Caprica. Shouldn't she have been born on the ressurection ship? I'm not really down with the whole starstruck cylon angle, either.
Other than that, I liked it. Six hallucinating Baltar is a mind fuck. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on February 27, 2006, 02:01:10 PM With the mention of "Boxing" Cylon minds, it seems they have control over the process. She was forworded like an email.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Rasix on February 27, 2006, 02:05:16 PM With the mention of "Boxing" Cylon minds, it seems they have control over the process. She was forworded like an email. Either that or they weren't far enough out at the time to warrant the use of the Resurrection ship. Still, great episode. Makes you almost forget there was ever a noir style Apollo episode. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on February 27, 2006, 03:01:25 PM I thought of both of those, but they only address the how, not the why.
Edit: Then again, I see I asked "how" in my original message. My bad on that. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on February 27, 2006, 03:09:29 PM Why? Since she was a sleeper agent, they figured it would be safer to res her away from the front-line to give her time to adjust. Smart move as we can see, although she may do more damage, ideologically, on Caprica.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on February 27, 2006, 03:18:58 PM Yeah, I guess that's a decent reason. Although releasing a traumatized war vet. among the general pop isn't the best way to raise morale.
I was thinking they'd want her close to the attack force, for assessment and tactical purposes. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on February 27, 2006, 03:24:17 PM I don't think the Cylons were worried about that, it appears individualism is a new problem for them.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Evil Elvis on February 27, 2006, 03:39:43 PM Except Caprica Six has been all the rage for 3 months before Boomers rebirth. And Caprica Six thinks the only reason they were paired together was to tear her down in the publics eye, and to erode her star/individual status.
Which, I guess could have been the entire reason why Boomer was reborn there; to set Six off. But then I don't see why you couldn't find another way of her finding out without letting Boomer spread dissent among the gen pop, or how they knew Baltar being alive would cause her to betray her beliefs and race. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on February 27, 2006, 03:55:43 PM Again, I think you can chalk that up to a lack of people skills and lack of an understanding what a threat individualism is. I bet this is the first time in history of the Cylon Race, they have had to manage disgruntled personal. And they are doing a very poor job of it.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on February 27, 2006, 04:25:13 PM Maybe they rez the skinnies on a different ship, or planetside?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Nevermore on February 28, 2006, 07:58:10 AM How do we know she wasn't rezzed on the Resurrection ship and then stuck on a transport back to Caprica?
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on February 28, 2006, 08:09:57 AM I thought they blowed up the rez ship.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on February 28, 2006, 08:25:18 AM We don't. We're speculating. One of the fun parts of quality Sci-Fi.
The reason I discount that is that is a) it appears the same 3 was there to greet both, which means 3 would have had to gone to res ship seems like a hassle with b) its established that Cylons love networks so why make a hardcopy and transport it when you email the soft copy to Caprica and make a hardcopy there. There are some serious ontological issues with the Cylon copies. I wouldn't be surprised if Cylon start question if their "souls" get transfered or just data does. If Cylon Dogma comes under question it means big trouble for the theocracy. Another idea why they sent Boomer to Caprica: maybe a Cylon's first death is the most traumatic, so they send all first timers to special place to help them with the transition. Boomer's death was before the res ship was destroyed. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Luxor on February 28, 2006, 08:48:26 AM Are we sure they only have the one res ship? I got the feeling it was the one that was covering the cyclon attack on the humans, but never got the impression it was the res ship.
Besides, they make multiple copies of everything else, why would they only make one copy of such an important ship? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on February 28, 2006, 08:57:50 AM Pegisus Six seemed to think so. And Air-Lock Guy wasn't sure if there was one close enough. At least, they are rare and have a lot of space to cover.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Nevermore on February 28, 2006, 09:45:56 AM If it's that easy for the Cylons to beam around their 'souls', why bother with a res ship at all? They could just set up multiple redundant data relay satellites all over their known 'verse and have the actual resurrection site on their homeworld. It hasn't really been established how much distance jump capable ships can cover, but it seems to be a lot given how far away the fleet was from Caprica when Starbuck made a single jump back there. Much safer to have the res site at a secure location instead of bringing it with you, even if it's behind the lines.
My guess is the Cylons have to worry about whatever FTL signal their using degrading if it's sent over too far a distance, so they built that res ship. Which is why I think Sharon was ressed on the ship. Jump technology seems to be more effective than communication/data transfer technology, at least over interstellar distances. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on February 28, 2006, 10:41:27 AM It's a plot device that hasn't been well thought-through. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek geeks arguing over the Bose-Heisenburg compensators on transporters.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on February 28, 2006, 10:47:28 AM She was rezzed on the ship with the others watching, then they all jumped together to Caprica. The end. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/capncornflake/pwned/1117144273701.jpg)
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on February 28, 2006, 11:02:13 AM It's a plot device that hasn't been well thought-through. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek geeks arguing over the Bose-Heisenburg compensators on transporters. You're right we could be doing something productive like arguing about how the gays force us to harass them by advertising their guilds in general chat.Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Furiously on February 28, 2006, 11:40:23 AM I have no internet at home - someone download the podcast from Itunes and see if the details are spilled.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on February 28, 2006, 12:39:13 PM It's a plot device that hasn't been well thought-through. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek geeks arguing over the Bose-Heisenburg compensators on transporters. You're right we could be doing something productive like arguing about how the gays force us to harass them by advertising their guilds in general chat.Perhaps I should have added a smiley. :evil: There, that's better. Continue on. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on March 03, 2006, 12:03:24 PM Hey while we're at it, how come Obi-Wan couldn't force push the buzz droids off his ship? And why the fuck did they make buzz droids, anyways? Wouldn't, like, a BOMB do the job just fine? That's like making a bullet that stops mid-air and tries to inject its target with cyanide.
And if Darth Sidious's lightsaber went out the window when he was fighting Mace Windu, where'd he get the new one when he was fighting Yoda? The whole thing's fucked up. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: tazelbain on March 03, 2006, 12:11:17 PM Llava, gaps in plot are not what we talking about. If you think there is a gap in how they handled Boomer's resurection please share.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Llava on March 03, 2006, 08:02:59 PM What the hell are you talking about? I don't even watch Deathstar Galactimus. Who is Boomer?
(http://www.chezcomics.com/comics-resources-information-pages/marvel-comics-information-resources/marvel-comics-superhero-character-profiles/boomboom.jpg)? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on March 04, 2006, 01:24:01 AM (http://www.kineda.com/photos/grace_park.jpg)
Her hawtness has nothing to do with the popularity of her character. Nothing. At All. Honest. Also, don't bring that mans artwork to the forums again. He doth offend mine eye. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: MrHat on March 04, 2006, 04:49:05 PM (http://www.kineda.com/photos/grace_park.jpg) Her hawtness has nothing to do with the popularity of her character. Nothing. At All. Honest. Also, don't bring that mans artwork to the forums again. He doth offend mine eye. That the same girl? Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Abagadro on March 04, 2006, 07:07:58 PM I'm just psyched they brought in Gurney Halleck to play his Baliset for the score of first 15 minutes of this week's episode.
Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on March 05, 2006, 03:29:39 AM I loved the old music playing in the Xena documentary. That was fucking stunning. Way to be retro, tip your hat to the old skool and actually give the scene some drama. This is a damn good show.
Now, if only they got the starbuck/boomer lesbian thingy going. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Ironwood on March 05, 2006, 03:31:07 AM That the same girl? No, it's a totally different girl I threw in there just to show gratuitous small form ass. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Wolf on March 05, 2006, 03:57:33 AM How about that last SG-1, eh?
Finally we have new Ghoauld. Please don't kill them for a gadzillion seasons, I can't go through another season like the previous one and the bigger part of this one. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Yegolev on March 06, 2006, 06:54:17 AM And if Darth Sidious's lightsaber went out the window when he was fighting Mace Windu, where'd he get the new one when he was fighting Yoda? Of course he kept a spare. He's not honorable or anything. Don't watch SG-1 but I do watch SG-A... season finale, oh noes, time to trot out the approaching hive ship again. At least Ronin didn't go on a punching spree again. Thank Jebus for Pileggi. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: HaemishM on March 06, 2006, 08:02:37 AM How do we know she wasn't rezzed on the Resurrection ship and then stuck on a transport back to Caprica? Now that I've finally caught up, this is a good point. We don't know that she wasn't rezzed on the rez ship and brought back to Galactica. Of course, Six's ressurection looked to be in the same place, but that might just be that none of the Cylons have enough individualism to make the res chambers look different in different places. They don't know the Feng Shui or whatnot. Really, I never even stopped to give a shit whether or not she was rezzed on the ship or the planet, because it mattered fuckall to the story. Stop being nerds. Title: Re: Best show on television. Post by: Merusk on March 06, 2006, 06:57:32 PM Zomg 24! /sadf.
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