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HaemishM
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Rome's biggest problem for a second season is that it won't get aired until 2007. That's a lot of time to have money just floating out there, to have actors just waiting around, and to have sets built but not being used. I still haven't watched the last two episodes.
I did catch an asston of Firefly over the holidays (most of which had been on my Tivo for over a week). I also got to see at least 3 episodes that I never saw, which I assume are the ones on the DVD that Fox never aired. I'd forgotten just how good that show was. Not airing some of those episodes certainly contributed to how badly the show did in the ratings, and not airing the pilot movie first was retarded in the first degree.
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Viin
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I didn't realize Rome won't be showing again until 2007, that sucks! While the ending of this season of Rome was no surprise, it still was very good. Since I can't remember hardly anything about ancient Roman history, I'm interested to see what happens next! 
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Big Gulp
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Since I can't remember hardly anything about ancient Roman history, I'm interested to see what happens next!  To sum up: Octavian was a bad, bad man, but a very good emperor. Oh, and a lot of people get killed along the way.
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Viin
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Oh, and a lot of people get killed along the way.
SWEET!!!
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Johny Cee
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Rome's biggest problem for a second season is that it won't get aired until 2007. That's a lot of time to have money just floating out there, to have actors just waiting around, and to have sets built but not being used. I still haven't watched the last two episodes.
I did catch an asston of Firefly over the holidays (most of which had been on my Tivo for over a week). I also got to see at least 3 episodes that I never saw, which I assume are the ones on the DVD that Fox never aired. I'd forgotten just how good that show was. Not airing some of those episodes certainly contributed to how badly the show did in the ratings, and not airing the pilot movie first was retarded in the first degree.
You can tend to forget all the sets they use only once or twice, too. Sure, the Rome set is reused. But then you have sets like Ceasars Gaul camp, or Pompeii's burning camp, or the Egypt sets. And shooting at sea, which is always said to be prohibitively expensive. And you KNOW that we're getting some fleet on fleet action with Antony vs Octavian. The delay till 2007 is almost unavoidable. You have to let the actor that plays Babbington.... errr... I mean Octavian age so he looks realistic commanding legions and tieing Rome in political knots. And there's no way they can replace him. He's fucking perfect. Anyone else would be a major step down.
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Jeff Kelly
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Finished the complete run of Dead like Me last week. That was freaking awesome. Mandy Patinkin and Ellen Muth were just unreal in the show.
Right now the only things I'm watching are Rome and Prison Break - both of which I'm enjoying. I'll probably start watching Alias when it comes on as well.
I just bought the whole first season of dead like me on DVD (US import) in a speciality store here in Nuremberg (show never officially aired here in germany) and watched the pilot. I am already hooked, a great show, witty, dark humour and it has Mandy Ptinkin. Found out half an hour later that the show is already cancelled in the US however, your TV execs are cockgobbling fuckers.
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Big Gulp
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And there's no way they can replace him. He's fucking perfect. Anyone else would be a major step down.
I disagree, although I do agree that the kid is great and should stay in the role. If they wanted to go ahead and age Octavion really quickly I propose (and I shit you not on this), Doogie Howser. Yep, Neil Patrick Harris. Dude has the looks, and could pull off the role because he can actually act. Too bad that he's fallen into the former teen star death spiral. Although I guess it really doesn't matter, because they've already messed around with the real history enough. I mean, at the time of Caesar's death Octavion was I believe 31 or 32 years old. Hell, he was instrumental in leading a cavalry unit a number of times that saved Caesar's bacon.
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HaemishM
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Found out half an hour later that the show is already cancelled in the US however, your TV execs are cockgobbling fuckers.
Yes.
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Johny Cee
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I liked Dead Like Me, but... it never really developed too much of an audience. It was a good show, but real quirky.
I'm surprised that Showtime gave it 2 seasons.
There wasn't alot of action, mostly dialogue/character work, but they combined that with some odd characters (George's boss, people she worked with) and alot of profanity. Usually fairly gruesome deaths, and loads of black humor.
The people that like black humor are turned off by the dialogue/character stuff, the people into the drama are turned off by the black humor and massive profanity. Add the fact the supernatural part of the plot was dragging it's feet right along.
As I said, I liked the show but it was the very definition of a niche show.
As much as I badmouth HBO for this, they're smart enough to include about 5 minutes of sensationalist junk an episode in each one of their TV series. I think it helps to draw in a wider range of audience, and I'll put up with it to get the quality bits of the program.
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schild
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I must be a freak, because the dialogue was part of the black humor.
It's like what happens after Greg House takes care of them. Seriously, I'd pay real money to see Mandy Patinkin on a show like that with Hugh Laurie.
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Triforcer
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Want to echo Haemish's point about "My Name is Earl". I'm from an area that, except for not being in the south, is similar to Earl's town. The writers, who are probably from Manhattan or L.A., have actually shown the ability to get beyond their ingrained hayseed caricatures and write good characters. The show nails how people think and talk and react (THE COUNTY FAIR IS HERE!!11!) so perfectly its eerie.
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Pococurante
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Still loving Earl. My wife, who grew up very much the country bumpkin, ranted and raved through the first fifteen minutes of the first episode about what a terrible show and why were they making fun of blue collar folks. She spent the last fifteen minutes laughing and it's now her favorite show... ;) I enjoy it too - not as smart as Raising Arizona but still a fun way to spend 45 mnutes.
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Ironwood
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Um. 'The Farm' looks real creepy.
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Shockeye
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Skinny-dippin' in a sea of Lee, I'd propose on bended knee...
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Sky
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I love my TV an' hug my TV an' call it 'George'.
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The cylons look like lamps now! I so spoiled it for you all!
I love lamp. And now it's a goddamned cylon.
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voodoolily
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We've started Tivo-ing Being Bobby Brown and lemme tell ya, that shit is GOLD. Gold, I say! It is so creepy to see Whitney Houston that fucked up and cracked out. It's hilarious. And she bore me my new favoritest quote that I use incessantly now: "Hell to the no!"
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Shockeye
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Skinny-dippin' in a sea of Lee, I'd propose on bended knee...
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Scrubs returns tonight and the Sci-Fi block of Stargate, Atlantis and Galactica comes back Friday.
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Sky
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I love my TV an' hug my TV an' call it 'George'.
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Oo, thanks for the scifi update. My DVR should catch it, but I better check.
DVR saves relationships imo.
OHNOES MY DVR IS A CYLON
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MrHat
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Oo, thanks for the scifi update. My DVR should catch it, but I better check.
DVR saves relationships imo.
OHNOES MY DVR IS A CYLON
I laughed out loud at this.
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Arrested Development articleThe quotes from the show are priceless. Pity that the average American is far too dim to get the briliance of this show. /sadf
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
Always wear clean underwear because you never know when a Tory Government is going to fuck you.- Ironwood
Libertarians make fun of everyone because they can't see beyond the event horizons of their own assholes Surlyboi
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schild
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Arrested Development articleThe quotes from the show are priceless. Pity that the average American is far too dim to get the briliance of this show. /sadf It wasn't brilliant. It was Lars Von Trier comedy hour. Shaky Cam + Camp != Brilliant. I'll grant that some of the jokes had me laughing out of my chair, but just for comparisons sake, there was not a single joke on that show that compared to nearly any line Mandy Patinkin delivered in Dead Like Me.
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Haven't seen that. However, AD is brilliant when compared to 95% of sitcoms- drek like The World According to Jim, The War At Home, Yes, Dear, and pretty much anything on UPN or WB (except Chris Rock's show- that is pretty funny).
I just thought it was interesting that the article used some many quotes- a not so subtle attempt to get more folks to tune in (instead of just reporting about the demise of the show).
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
Always wear clean underwear because you never know when a Tory Government is going to fuck you.- Ironwood
Libertarians make fun of everyone because they can't see beyond the event horizons of their own assholes Surlyboi
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Llava
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I really think the Boondocks is one of the best damn things I've ever seen. At least a few times per show I get a really good, strong, loud laugh. I just cracked up at a commercial for this week's episode. I'd explain it, but text wouldn't be able to convey the proper timing to really explain why I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.
I'm increasingly happy Adult Swim picked this show up. Between all the Tom Goes To The Mayors and 12 Oz. Mice, they haven't completely forgotten what's funny.
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That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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Ironwood
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I disagree, although I do agree that the kid is great and should stay in the role. If they wanted to go ahead and age Octavion really quickly I propose (and I shit you not on this), Doogie Howser. Yep, Neil Patrick Harris. Dude has the looks, and could pull off the role because he can actually act. Too bad that he's fallen into the former teen star death spiral.
That might work quite well.
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Viin
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I just started watching the first season of Lost. Pretty darn good, too bad we won't be caught up in time to watch season 2.
But I've already made a guess as to why the plane crashed: nuclear detonations. I was trying to plot where '6 hours in' in the flight would have been (where they lost communications), and I'd have to guess at least most of the way to the US (6 hours would be about 3000 miles, how close is that to LAX from Sydney?).
If I'm wrong, ok you can say that, but if the show tells us what actually happened don't say anything!! :mrgreen:
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MrHat
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I disagree, although I do agree that the kid is great and should stay in the role. If they wanted to go ahead and age Octavion really quickly I propose (and I shit you not on this), Doogie Howser. Yep, Neil Patrick Harris. Dude has the looks, and could pull off the role because he can actually act. Too bad that he's fallen into the former teen star death spiral.
That might work quite well. That would work very well. Although, I'd hate to see him leave the cast of How I Met Your Mother. I really really enjoy that show. About as much as I enjoyed Friends before it go all shitty.
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Llava
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I really think the Boondocks is one of the best damn things I've ever seen.
After seeing today's episode, I want to say that again. I love this fucking show. Where else can you see Martin Luther King completely lambast the bullshit gangsta culture and announce he's leaving the country to move to Canada?
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That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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schild
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Boondocks is indeed the funniest thing on that channel. Somehow the cartoon manages to be edgier and far more racist than McGruders other work. Of course, he's black and taking that into account the cartoon isn't edgy or racist. He's just keeping it real.
I love America.
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There is a Boondocks cartoon? I gotta see that- the comic strip is freakin' hilarious.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
Always wear clean underwear because you never know when a Tory Government is going to fuck you.- Ironwood
Libertarians make fun of everyone because they can't see beyond the event horizons of their own assholes Surlyboi
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Shockeye
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Boondocks is indeed the funniest thing on that channel. Somehow the cartoon manages to be edgier and far more racist than McGruders other work. Of course, he's black and taking that into account the cartoon isn't edgy or racist. He's just keeping it real.
I love America.
So if a white guy did it it's racist, but since McGruder isn't, it's "keeping it real". It's such bullshit. Plus, the show isn't that funny.
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schild
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So if a white guy did it it's racist, but since McGruder isn't, it's "keeping it real". It's such bullshit. Plus, the show isn't that funny. I was being ironical. I'm the last person to give a shit about that one way racism bullshit. But the show isn't just funny - it's SMART and funny. This is certainly a case of you needing to explain why you think it isn't funny. Normally I wouldn't give a shit and would just go with the standard "You don't like fun" line, but here? I've yet to meet anyone that thought it wasn't funny.
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Llava
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"What are you doing?" "I'm writing a letter to Santa. 'Dear Santa, You are a bitch nigga.' No, no, wait, hold up. 'You are a bitch ASS nigga.'"
And please, let's try not to pretend to be so shocked when a sharp criticism of a culture comes from within a culture and that makes it okay, whereas otherwise it wouldn't be okay.
For instance, Jack Thompson criticizing games as brainless, overly violent, overly exploitative pieces of X-TREME media comes off sounding like an asshole. From someone who actually plays games, it carries much more weight. Because perspective and experience count when you say stuff.
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That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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HaemishM
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The Santa Claus episode of The Boondocks was just a scream. The "bitch ASS nigga" comment in the letter just left me in a seizure state for minutes. It still makes me giggle. That and the Adventures of Black Jesus. The "Hoe's Comin' to Dinner" episode was great as well.
"Does she run well in high heels?" "HOE!"
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Jain Zar
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Boondocks is pretty good. Not Battlestar Galactica good, but good nonetheless.
But I love cartoons. Too bad Teen Titans is done (last episode shown today, and again Saturday), and its looking like Justice League Unlimited is down for the count too. Because Cartoon Network currently thinks OMG ANIME is the way to go.
My only solace? Disney decided to bring back Kim Possible. Which is fucking awesome since that show rules. I grew up watching James Bond movies with my dad (one of the few things we actually did together really..) and its a great send up of those films.
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