Title: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on April 27, 2005, 06:44:40 PM Quote Tom Cruise dating Katie Holmes (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7659808/) She recently called off engagement to Chris KleinThe Associated Press Updated: 9:21 p.m. ET April 27, 2005LOS ANGELES - Tom Cruise has a new girlfriend — actress Katie Holmes. Cruise, 42, and Holmes, 26, have been dating a few weeks, Cruise’s publicist and sister, Lee Anne DeVette, said Wednesday. The pair were photographed this week together in Rome, where Cruise on Friday will receive a lifetime achievement award at the Italian equivalent of the Academy Awards, the David di Donatello Awards. Holmes’ public relations firm — Baker Winokur Ryder — confirmed the two were dating. Both actors have had high-profile relationships. Cruise’s first two marriages, to actresses Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman, ended in divorce. He was dating actress Penelope Cruz until the pair split last year. Holmes and actor Chris Klein recently called off their engagement after dating five years. Cruise in his nearly 25-year career has starred in such films as “Rain Man,” “Jerry Maguire” and the upcoming Steven Spielberg remake of “War of the Worlds.” Holmes is best known for starring in the TV show “Dawson’s Creek,” and the movies “Wonder Boys” and “Pieces of April.” She will co-star with Christian Bale in this summer’s “Batman Begins.” Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Abagadro on April 27, 2005, 09:46:47 PM I'd be impressed if she wasn't just another in a series of beards.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on April 28, 2005, 08:22:30 AM Tom Cruise is gay. And I mean that he is a homosexual. These dating things are simply ploys set up by publicists.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on April 28, 2005, 08:30:10 AM Any man that could think both Scientology AND Penelope Cruz are attractive is just not right in the head.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on April 28, 2005, 09:35:57 AM Any man that could think both Scientology AND Penelope Cruz are attractive is just not right in the head. A-fucking-men. She has to be the homeliest 'hot' woman in recent memory. Chris Klein and Tom Cruise- Wow, Katie likes them vanilla, doesn't she? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Viin on April 28, 2005, 09:43:12 AM It's because she's always had a crush on Dawson.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on April 28, 2005, 10:30:35 AM I always love watching Travolta get stuffy when someone dares ask him about his beliefs.
Personally there's no way in hell I'd do anything to piss off a scientologist. This is not a group with a sense of humor. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Sobelius on April 28, 2005, 11:23:59 AM Bah.
We are all SO over Tom. Bad actor whose only claim to fame was 20-some-odd years ago when he was lip-synching while sliding around in his underwear for 60 about seconds. Just drink the boujolais and walk away. Now Colin Farrell, there's a man to break my heart. Or Vin. "Vin Diesel is so sexual he's tri-sexual: hetero, gay *and* lesbian!" Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: TheWalrus on April 29, 2005, 12:21:57 AM It's incredibly stupid now, but in it's day, Top Gun was the COOLEST. Then you see the scene where they have shades on inside, and you realize the 80s were the deathknell of intelligence.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on April 29, 2005, 05:12:11 AM Now Colin Farrell, there's a man to break my heart. Or Vin. I like this pic... (http://images.usatoday.com/life/gallery/britney/colin-farrell.jpg) CAPTION: "IT'S NOT MINE!" Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on April 29, 2005, 07:11:04 AM Great picture in the New York Daily News today showing Tom stretching to kiss Katie Holmes. Makes him look like a high school kid making out with his teacher.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Trippy on April 29, 2005, 07:20:32 AM Great picture in the New York Daily News today showing Tom stretching to kiss Katie Holmes. Makes him look like a high school kid making out with his teacher. It was even worse with Nicole Kidman who is around 3 inches taller than him without heels. Katie is only like an inch taller than him (without heels).Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on April 29, 2005, 09:02:46 AM Oh come, on, Cruise had some enjoyable movies.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Bunk on April 29, 2005, 10:41:39 AM Sure he has. Doesn't change the fact that he's really fun to pick on.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on April 29, 2005, 11:11:54 AM I liked him in Magnolia. But his teeth are hell of not put on straight.
(http://parangaricutirimicuaro.blogspot.com/tom-cruise-school.jpg) Look how one of his incisors is in the middle of his frenum (that's the little stringy thing that holds you lip to your gums). That's where the centerline space of your teeth is supposed to be, not a tooth! It's like his whole smile just got slid over. He is to teeth what Shannon Doherty is to eyes. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on April 29, 2005, 11:19:41 AM Quote Look how one of his incisors is in the middle of his frenum (that's the little stringy thing that holds you lip to your gums). That's where the centerline space of your teeth is supposed to be, not a tooth! I never noticed that before....consider me officially creeped out. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: AOFanboi on May 01, 2005, 10:36:24 AM That's where the centerline space of your teeth is supposed to be, not a tooth! So does that mean he really is an alien from that planet the Scientologists go on about?I have only one Tom Cruise DVD: Ridley Scott's Legend. Just mentioning. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 02, 2005, 07:11:07 AM I liked him in Mission Impossible 1, because it was cool and actually had a fun plot. Then came MI:2...and it made doves cry.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on May 02, 2005, 11:06:06 AM Yet another creepy mouth photo:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/mrmrmrj/pagesix05022005g.jpg) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 02, 2005, 11:07:12 AM I'm getting freaked out.
(http://www.f13.net/sicko/cruisemouth.jpg) And because I care. (http://www.seanmoffatt.com/images/tom_cruise_640.jpg) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Furiously on May 02, 2005, 11:11:20 AM That is freaky. I watched MI1 a few days ago on cable. It wasn't as good as I remembered. MI2 was about as bad as it gets.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 02, 2005, 11:33:07 AM Quote MI2 was about as bad as it gets. Ugh. One of the worst fucking movies ever put to celluloid. Woo is a hack of biblical proportions. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 02, 2005, 11:37:16 AM Quote MI2 was about as bad as it gets. Ugh. One of the worst fucking movies ever put to celluloid. Woo is a hack of biblical proportions. No, he isn't. America makes him a hack of biblical proportions. He just wants to go home. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 02, 2005, 11:45:28 AM If he can go home and quit fucking up American movies, then we will both be happy.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Samprimary on May 02, 2005, 12:17:06 PM Personally there's no way in hell I'd do anything to piss off a scientologist. This is not a group with a sense of humor. REMEMBER CLEARWATERRRRRRRR Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on May 03, 2005, 11:15:17 AM Tom Cruise has a very good agent. There is no way someone with LESS acting talent could exist in Hollywood. He's been in enough good movies despite his clear lack of any business acting to tell me that it's all in the agent.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2005, 11:29:13 AM I enjoyed The Last Samurai.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 03, 2005, 11:33:16 AM Yes, but was that because of, or in spite of Tom Cruise?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on May 03, 2005, 11:34:32 AM Enjoying a Tom Cruise movie just means he didn't fuck it up, as in The Last Samurai or Interview with the Vampire.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Rasix on May 03, 2005, 01:04:55 PM I enjoyed The Last Samurai. Me too. I'm having a hard time thinking of a movie I dislike because Tom Cruise fucked it up. Most of his terrible work was the result of him being in a terrible movie. I guess that makes me a closet fan. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Mesozoic on May 03, 2005, 01:46:16 PM Yet another creepy mouth photo: The result of a slightly-botched facelift or lip work, perhaps? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2005, 02:36:58 PM Maybe he got punched in the face too much as a kid growing up?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 03, 2005, 03:13:22 PM I think this is simply a matter of his skull being screwed on wrong.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 03, 2005, 04:19:46 PM Maybe he got punched in the face too much as a kid growing up? One can only hope. And there is no such thing as 'too much' in this case. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Arnold on May 03, 2005, 04:31:21 PM Any man that could think both Scientology AND Penelope Cruz are attractive is just not right in the head. A-fucking-men. She has to be the homeliest 'hot' woman in recent memory. No shit. When I heard he was dating her and then first saw her, my thought was, "Wow, she sure does have a big nose." Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Trippy on May 03, 2005, 04:42:41 PM I think this is simply a matter of his skull being screwed on wrong. Those all may be older pictures. He had been wearing braces to fix some of those problems.Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: MaceVanHoffen on May 03, 2005, 04:48:09 PM Enjoying a Tom Cruise movie just means he didn't fuck it up, as in The Last Samurai or Interview with the Vampire. I liked Vanilla Sky quite a bit. Even though I liked The Last Samurai, I thought the performances of the Asian actors were much better than Cruise's. But, yeah, Katie Holmes. That is one homely young woman. Ms. Cruz is better looking. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 10:09:58 AM But, yeah, Katie Holmes. That is one homely young woman. Ms. Cruz is better looking. Are you shittin' me? Fetal Alcohol Syndrome FTW! Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 04, 2005, 10:25:19 AM Enjoying a Tom Cruise movie just means he didn't fuck it up, as in The Last Samurai or Interview with the Vampire. I liked Vanilla Sky quite a bit. Even though I liked The Last Samurai, I thought the performances of the Asian actors were much better than Cruise's. But, yeah, Katie Holmes. That is one homely young woman. Ms. Cruz is better looking. Vanilla Sky sucked copious amounts of ass, and Cruz's body looks like she spent time in a Gulag. (http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/penelope-cruz/penelope-cruz04.jpg) You could snap her limbs with two fingers. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 10:36:04 AM I could never fuck something I was afraid of breaking.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 04, 2005, 11:14:53 AM This is simply shocking. (http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/gossip/tom-cruise/index.php#holmescruise-situation-takes-a-disturbing-turn-102184) - SFW
I said, SHOCKING! (http://p099.ezboard.com/fjjboardfrm12.showMessage?topicID=80813.topic) - SFW (http://tinypic.com/4ue9w8) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 11:17:19 AM GAH!
Herpes much? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 04, 2005, 11:18:38 AM (http://www.gawker.com/news/20050504katiebig.jpg)
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 11:25:51 AM Makeup can't hide herpes simplex. That is, indeed, decidedly unglamorous.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 04, 2005, 11:48:00 AM Well Herpes trumps my chickenlegs pic. Damn you internet!
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 04, 2005, 11:51:16 AM I'm sure the herpes would go away if she fully embraced (donated $$$$$) Scientology. I'm sure Tom looks perfect due to the fact that he is Clear.
It's these negative memory engrams that cause herpes, obviously. Praise Xenu. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 11:56:49 AM Except that Tom has the scary tooth thingy. He must not be giving enough. Speaking of weird religions, Paelos, can you please explain the Seventh Day Adventists? Why don't they eat meat? Whassup with them anyway?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 04, 2005, 12:00:51 PM From Bruce's favorite waste of time...
Quote from: Wikipedia Seventh-day Adventists present a health message that recommends vegetarianism and requires abstinence from pork, shellfish, and other foods proscribed as "unclean" in Leviticus as well as from alcohol and tobacco. The "health message" is considered to be the "right arm" of the church. Quote from: Wikipedia Most notoriously, the Branch Davidians and David Koresh of the Waco, Texas conflagration are a schismatic off-shoot of the Seventh Day Adventist religious movement. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 04, 2005, 12:04:09 PM Quote Branch Davidians and David Koresh I am guessing they would add BBQ to their list of banned foods if they were able. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 04, 2005, 12:28:55 PM Except that Tom has the scary tooth thingy. He must not be giving enough. Speaking of weird religions, Paelos, can you please explain the Seventh Day Adventists? Why don't they eat meat? Whassup with them anyway? They are Christians who take a very literal view of the Old Testament teachings. The reason for not eating meat I can only assume it is in relation to the details of Leviticus and the story of Daniel eating nothing but vegetables in the king's court. They are very obsessed with the Revelation and believe that when righteous men die, they wait in unconsiousness until the day of the first ressurection signalling the beginning of Christ's 1000 year reign. It gets nutty in places. The Fundamental Beliefs (http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 01:00:36 PM I thought it had to do with Genesis, where it says to let seeds be your meat.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 04, 2005, 01:03:37 PM Ok, time to re-rail.
(http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/Buscemi/Celebrity%20363-01%20Cover%20Jan%202005.jpg) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 04, 2005, 01:06:22 PM I thought it had to do with Genesis, where it says to let seeds be your meat. Uh either that phrasing is off, or I'm unaware of what you mean. That's not in the Bible to my knowledge. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on May 04, 2005, 01:06:54 PM Ok, Katie Holmes is quite obviously not the person I thought she was. I was thinknig of Kate Hudson, or whatever Goldie Hawn's daughter is named. Who is Katie Holmes again, and why should I care?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 04, 2005, 01:07:37 PM Ok, Katie Holmes is quite obviously not the person I thought she was. I was thinknig of Kate Hudson, or whatever Goldie Hawn's daughter is named. Who is Katie Holmes again, and why should I care? She's was on Dawson's Creek. And she got naked in "The Gift". And she's got a raging case of herpes. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 04, 2005, 01:08:13 PM Ok, Katie Holmes is quite obviously not the person I thought she was. I was thinknig of Kate Hudson, or whatever Goldie Hawn's daughter is named. Who is Katie Holmes again, and why should I care? You shouldn't care, unless you want herpes. Then I'd say she's your lady. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 04, 2005, 01:09:36 PM I would still hit it.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on May 04, 2005, 01:14:07 PM Doublebag it.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 01:20:30 PM Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
Sorry to derail again. This is the verse my dad paraphrases to justify his use of marijuana, but had I been a more studious teenager, I coulda used this to justify my "rebellious" vegetarianism, which he thought was practically an abomination of god. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 01:23:02 PM Rerail!
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~fishman/presley.jpg) Oh jesus shit! I found this funny page (http://www.scientology-kills.org/laugh.htm) that has a hilarious string of comics: (http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/goats020422.gif) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 04, 2005, 01:29:45 PM Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." Sorry to derail again. This is the verse my dad paraphrases to justify his use of marijuana, but had I been a more studious teenager, I coulda used this to justify my "rebellious" vegetarianism, which he thought was practically an abomination of god. Well, only the freakshow that is the King James version uses the word "meat" to my knowledge. The rest just say "food". Anyway that's in the garden of eden, three chapters later they are raising sheep. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Nazrat on May 04, 2005, 01:36:01 PM Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." Sorry to derail again. This is the verse my dad paraphrases to justify his use of marijuana, but had I been a more studious teenager, I coulda used this to justify my "rebellious" vegetarianism, which he thought was practically an abomination of god. What translation is that? Here is the quote from the handy Net Bible (http://www.bible.org/netbible). Gen. 1:29 Then God said, “I now give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the entire earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Later, after the fall, eating meat was opened up as permissible. So, if you are sinless and living in paradise, just eat the vegetables. The rest of us sinners out here in the real world are going to eat meat. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 01:37:34 PM And actually, it makes sense agriculturally, since humans would have had more access to veggies inthe summer, whilst the animals are fattening up. Fall is usually slaughter time.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Nazrat on May 04, 2005, 02:11:33 PM RFLOL. :-o
I think we are talkling about different falls. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 02:14:07 PM uhhhhh....durrrrrrrrrr........
That's what I get for skimming while I'm supposed to be working. Isn't my face red. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 04, 2005, 02:15:46 PM And she's got a raging case of herpes. Oh man, you saw that too? That means Tom Cruise has it also. Kiyah is it icky! Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 04, 2005, 02:19:30 PM And she's got a raging case of herpes. Oh man, you saw that too? That means Tom Cruise has it also. Kiyah is it icky! Yeah, he's gay. Just not out gay. I think the fact he doesn't speaks volumes. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 04, 2005, 02:22:16 PM NSFW ALERT. NOT SAFE FOR WOMEN. OR MEN. OR ANYBODY.
- http://img210.echo.cx/my.php?image=4udgme2rh.jpg - DON'T CLICK THAT LINK UNLESS YOU HATE YOURSELF. OR LIKE HIGH SCHOOL HEALTH BOOKS. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 02:57:36 PM Schildy, we already saw this. Do you need to den yourself? It gives me the hebejebes.
And she's got a raging case of herpes. Oh man, you saw that too? That means Tom Cruise has it also. Kiyah is it icky! Yeah, he's gay. Just not out gay. I think the fact he doesn't speaks volumes. Unless she got it from kissing his not-on-the-mouth area. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on May 04, 2005, 03:03:00 PM It's just a few too many Body Thetans he had to expel.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 04, 2005, 03:04:17 PM Unless she got it from kissing his not-on-the-mouth area. French? Italian? Balsamic Vinegar? Ranch? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 04, 2005, 03:06:01 PM There are other pictures that show her wrists all bruised up. I can't find the link. Sigh. Anyway, Mr.Cruise apparently likes it rough.
And here's one without bruises and a raging case of creepy mouth: http://img152.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img152&image=121iv.jpg And my brain just tried to shut itself off after Shockeye's comment. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 03:28:33 PM Unless she got it from kissing his not-on-the-mouth area. French? Italian? Balsamic Vinegar? Ranch? Is that a reference to tossed salad? schild-I noticed the bruises on her arm, too. It's on the first pic that Shocky Doo-doo posted. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Nazrat on May 04, 2005, 03:32:55 PM Is Greek a dressing?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 04, 2005, 04:15:16 PM Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Trippy on May 04, 2005, 04:17:05 PM Ok, Katie Holmes is quite obviously not the person I thought she was. I was thinknig of Kate Hudson, or whatever Goldie Hawn's daughter is named. Who is Katie Holmes again, and why should I care? She's was on Dawson's Creek.And she got naked in "The Gift". Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on May 05, 2005, 08:13:19 AM She's was on Dawson's Creek. And she got naked in "The Gift". And she's got a raging case of herpes. Wasn't her Gift nude scene as a corpse? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Trippy on May 05, 2005, 08:19:11 AM Wasn't her Gift nude scene as a corpse? There's another scene as well with her and Greg Kinnear in those woods.Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Abagadro on May 05, 2005, 08:48:37 AM Let's see:
Tom Cruise has movie coming out this summer: check Katie Holmes has movie coming out this summer: check I'm SURE this whole romance has nothing to do with publicity. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 05, 2005, 08:49:46 AM Let's see: Tom Cruise has movie coming out this summer: check Katie Holmes has movie coming out this summer: check I'm SURE this whole romance has nothing to do with publicity. Is Holmes' movie for a Health class? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 05, 2005, 09:02:06 AM Let's see: Tom Cruise has movie coming out this summer: check Katie Holmes has movie coming out this summer: check I'm SURE this whole romance has nothing to do with publicity. Is Holmes' movie for a Health class? Batman Begins is based on Frank Miller's little read series: Batman: The Herpes Years. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on May 05, 2005, 09:14:03 AM He can cure her by putting her in a Lazuras Pit.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 05, 2005, 12:05:10 PM It seems "stubble rash" is code for "raging case of mouth herpes". Those goofy Brits!
Quote from: Daily Mail Is Katie allergic to Cruise? (http://www.thisislondon.com/showbiz/articles/18388740?source=Evening%20Standard&ct=5) By Daily Mail 5 May 2005 Her new boyfriend has certainly put a smile on her face. But a closer look at Katie Holmes shows something else as well. Out shopping in Los Angeles, Tom Cruise's 26-year-old girlfriend was sporting what appeared to be a serious case of stubble rash. Or maybe she's just allergic to the twicemarried, 42- year- old actor. Miss Holmes, best known for her role in the teenage TV drama Dawson's Creek, was pictured with her new beau in Rome last week. 'He may have been kissing her a little too passionately,' said one onlooker. 'If it was a stubble rash, no wonder Katie was flaunting it - not every woman can boast about kissing Tom Cruise!' Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 05, 2005, 12:31:14 PM You couldn't get that kind of "stubble rash" from a Brillo pad.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 05, 2005, 12:32:19 PM I want to know what part of his body he had recently shaved and had her kiss.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 05, 2005, 12:35:21 PM I want to know what part of his body he had recently shaved and had her kiss. Unless she got it from kissing his not-on-the-mouth area. French? Italian? Balsamic Vinegar? Ranch? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 05, 2005, 12:37:19 PM Maybe when she was rimming him the alien that resides in his body jumped out and bit her.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 05, 2005, 02:33:59 PM Interesting interview. (http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,353577,00.html)
Quote from: Speigel SPIEGEL: We visited one of your locations near Los Angeles and were amazed to find a fully staffed tent of the Scientology organization right next to the food tents for the journalists and extras. Cruise: What were you amazed about? SPIEGEL: Why do you go so extremely public about your personal convictions? Cruise: I believe in freedom of speech. I felt honored to have volunteer Scientology ministers on the set. They were helping the crew. When I'm working on a movie, I do anything I can to help the people I'm spending time with. I believe in communication. SPIEGEL: The tent of a sect at someone's working place still seems somewhat strange to us. Mr. Spielberg, did that tent strike you as unusual? Spielberg: I saw it as an information tent. No one was compelled to frequent it, but it was available for anybody who had an open mind and was curious about someone else's belief system. Cruise:The volunteer Scientology ministers were there to help the sick and injured. People on the set appreciated that. I have absolutely nothing against talking about my beliefs. But I do so much more. We live in a world where people are on drugs forever. Where even children get drugged. Where crimes against humanity are so extreme that most people turn away in horror and dismay. Those are the things that I care about. I don't care what someone believes. I don't care what nationality they are. But if someone wants to get off drugs, I can help them. If someone wants to learn how to read, I can help them. If someone doesn't want to be a criminal anymore, I can give them tools that can better their life. You have no idea how many people want to know what Scientology is. SPIEGEL: Do you see it as your job to recruit new followers for Scientology? Cruise: I'm a helper. For instance, I myself have helped hundreds of people get off drugs. In Scientology, we have the only successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. It's called Narconon. SPIEGEL: That's not correct. Yours is never mentioned among the recognized detox programs. Independent experts warn against it because it is rooted in pseudo science. Cruise: You don't understand what I am saying. It's a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period. SPIEGEL: With all due respect, we doubt that. Mr. Cruise, you made studio executives, for example from Paramount, tour Scientology's "Celebrity Center" in Hollywood. Are you trying to extend Scientology's influence in Hollywood? Cruise: I just want to help people. I want everyone to do well. Spielberg: I often get asked similar questions about my Shoa Foundation. I get asked why I am trying to disseminate my deep belief in creating more tolerance through my foundation's teaching the history of the Holocaust in public schools. I believe that you shouldn't be allowed to attend college without having taken a course in tolerance education. That should be an important part of the social studies curriculum. SPIEGEL: Mr. Spielberg, are you comparing the educational work of the Shoa Foundation with what Scientology does? Spielberg: No, I'm not. Tom told you what he believes in, and after that I told you what I believe in. This is not a comparison between the Church of Scientology, the Shoa Foundation and the Holocaust. I was only showing you that some of us in Hollywood have set out to do more than just be actors or directors. Some of us have very personal missions. In Tom's case, it's his church, and in my case, it's the Shoa Foundation, where I'm trying to help other people learn about the mortal dangers of pure hatred. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 05, 2005, 02:43:02 PM Quote Cruise: I'm a helper. For instance, I myself have helped hundreds of people get off drugs. In Scientology, we have the only successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. It's called Narconon. SPIEGEL: That's not correct. Yours is never mentioned among the recognized detox programs. Independent experts warn against it because it is rooted in pseudo science. Cruise: You don't understand what I am saying. It's a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period. Scary. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 05, 2005, 03:00:11 PM Once religions start talking about "statistically proven facts" you can usually figure they are bullshitting you about something. I mean, because we all know it's a statistically proven fact that being an atheist makes you a pedophile.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 05, 2005, 03:17:56 PM Hey, that little boy never ONCE said no to me!
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 07, 2005, 10:53:57 AM Quote from: Contact Music BECK DEFENDS SCIENTOLOGY (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/beck%20defends%20scientology) Californian singer BECK has leapt to the defence of the controversial Scientology religion, insisting people have judged the belief system too harshly. The faith has been viewed with suspicion but, like many US celebrities, the GUERO star credits the Church group with helping many people through troubled times - his father included. He says, "There's whole aspects (of Scientology) that you probably don't see. They have the success rate of getting hardcore addicts off drugs, 90-something per cent maybe. "This is something my father has been doing for coming on 40 years. It's something that's helped him a lot. There's aspects of it that have helped me... "If it's something that helps you in your life it's a positive thing, so all I have to say is that you can't really make a judgement on something unless you know something about it first-hand." 06/05/2005 19:15 Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on May 09, 2005, 08:58:41 AM Quote Cruise: I just want to help people. I want everyone to do well. Wow, he is so sincere and kind and generous. "I just want to help" is the phrase most often heard by people before they get totally fucked. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 11, 2005, 01:39:30 PM Scientology losing popularity? (http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4119)
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 11, 2005, 01:43:49 PM Scientology losing popularity? (http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4119) I saw that the other day but I didn't want to post too many Onion links. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 11, 2005, 01:54:38 PM The other day? It is from today's edition! And it folded into our discussion so nicely...
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 11, 2005, 02:15:21 PM The other day? It is from today's edition! And it folded into our discussion so nicely... I believe I read it yesterday. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 11, 2005, 02:33:47 PM Curse you and your infernal time machine, knave!
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on May 11, 2005, 02:35:20 PM BWAHAHAHA! Surprised the dateline wasn't six weeks back....
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 13, 2005, 01:33:47 PM This is worth watching. (http://radaronline.com/movie/tom-and-katie.php) SFW.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 13, 2005, 01:52:03 PM This is worth watching. (http://radaronline.com/movie/tom-and-katie.php) SFW. Good christ. The payoff wasn't worth it + you're evil. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on May 14, 2005, 12:52:29 AM It was rather "meh" if you ask me.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 24, 2005, 03:18:06 PM Tom Cruise MUST be stopped (http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/gossip/tom-cruise/intensity-photoblogging-tom-cruise-on-oprah-104673.php).
The guy is out of control. He is actually quite frightening. I wish I could just write it off as a nasty coke bender, but I think it is much scarier than that. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 24, 2005, 03:45:53 PM God, I thought I was the only one who thought things were getting WAAAY outta control with that freak. We need to stage an intervention or something.
(http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/tom-oprah-fight3.jpg) He's wrasslin' Oprah, for chrissakes! This is worse than that one presidential candidate who hooted. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on May 25, 2005, 09:49:23 AM COCAINE'S A HELLUVA DRUG!
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 25, 2005, 09:51:48 AM Dr. Cruise on medication (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/people/225601_people25.html).
Seriously, someone needs to but this cockholster in his place. With any luck, that will be in the SAG unemployment line, so I don't have to see his freaky misshapen grin EVER AGAIN. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 25, 2005, 11:04:36 AM Video of the psycho. (http://www.doubleagent.com/video.php?v=482)
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on May 31, 2005, 01:44:45 PM Quote from: Some Scary Blog Site Brooke Shields calls Cruise’s comments “dangerous” (http://www.bloggingbaby.com/entry/1234000600045043) Posted May 31, 2005, 9:14 AM ET by Beth Hoyt Brooke Shields is now speaking out in response to Tom Cruise’s comments about her use of anti-depressants to treat post-partum depression. Cruise told the TV show Access Hollywood that Shields’ use of medication is dangerous, and damaging to her career. He said that he believes vitamins are the answer, not drugs. Brooke Shields has responded by saying “Tom Cruise’s comments are irresponsible and dangerous. Tom should stick to saving the world from aliens and let women who are experiencing postpartum depression decide what treatment options are best for them.” Shields was referring to Cruise’s upcoming alien movie, War of the Worlds, and not his belief in the teachings of Scientology. As Cruise has publicly mentioned, scientologists are opposed to taking drugs for psychiatric problems and believe high doses of vitamins and minerals are a better cure. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on May 31, 2005, 01:46:29 PM I know the end of civilization is nigh when Brooke Shields starts making sense.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 31, 2005, 01:48:10 PM Brook Shields doesn't make sense. Ever.
Tom Cruise on the other hand is porkin a youngin and I still hate Oprah. That's the news for today. :roll: Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 31, 2005, 02:00:07 PM Brook Shields doesn't make sense. Ever. Tom Cruise on the other hand is porkin a youngin and I still hate Oprah. That's the news for today. :roll: You just hate her because she's a rich, powerful black woman, don't you? (I'm supposed to do the thing with my neck when I say that) kidding Oprah is scary and annoying, but highly philanthropic. And I gotta give her props for being the richest woman of color in the world, because she's self-made. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 31, 2005, 02:02:17 PM Self-made? No. Wrong.
No one on TV is self-made. It's all the trash that watch her that made her. All the clueless fuckwits who read her book club shit. She used to be nothing more than the black female Jerry Springer. She's so far from self-made, I'm surprised she doesn't freak out when she looks in the mirror in the morning. Edit: Forgot to mention Michael Jackson. He was her bridge from somewhat celebrity to absolute media domination. Stomach surgery helped too. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 31, 2005, 02:07:06 PM Who is self-made then? To be rich, people have to buy your shit, watch your shit, or read your shit. Unless you literally crap gold nuggets, your vision of self-made is pretty narrow.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 31, 2005, 02:08:34 PM Who is self-made then? To be rich, people have to buy your shit, watch your shit, or read your shit. Unless you literally crap gold nuggets, your vision of self-made is pretty narrow. Ok, let me make it a little clearer. She had a team of people MAKING HER 24/7 for more than a decade. I'd wager she did very little on her own and managed to land a celebrity interview when all her peers were still watching white trash argue. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 31, 2005, 02:09:09 PM By self-made I mean she didn't have any coattails to ride, no one to pay her tuition, no rich husband, etc. She wasn't born into money. She made her own career, and her career made her rich. She started out as a news anchor. Just because she went into tv instead of programming or business or whatever doesn't diminish her achievement.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on May 31, 2005, 02:11:27 PM By self-made I mean she didn't have any coattails to ride, no one to pay her tuition, no rich husband, etc. She wasn't born into money. She made her own career, and her career made her rich. She started out as a news anchor. Just because she went into tv instead of programming or business or whatever doesn't diminish her achievement. I disagree with what you've said. And I'd get into it, but it's not worth it. Not everything on the cover of Cosmo is the real deal. Let's just say, no one makes their own TV career. There are very smart people who do it very formulaically. She is by no means a receiver of divine luck. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on May 31, 2005, 02:46:05 PM I don't wanna get into either.
But if I'm the one who figures out whose dick I have to suck to get what I want, and then I suck that dick, and I get what I want, did I really rely on someone else for the hookup? Or do I deserve what I get (what I want). Politicking is a part of every profession. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on May 31, 2005, 07:22:43 PM Wait, did you just advocate sucking dick for a job?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: ahoythematey on June 01, 2005, 08:12:48 AM Wait, did you just advocate sucking dick for a job? Sometimes, Useless News is awesome. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on June 01, 2005, 10:02:48 AM By self-made I mean she didn't have any coattails to ride, no one to pay her tuition, no rich husband, etc. She wasn't born into money. She made her own career, and her career made her rich. She started out as a news anchor. Just because she went into tv instead of programming or business or whatever doesn't diminish her achievement. Agreed. Self-made doesn't mean that everyone respects how you made it, just that you started with nothing and worked for it. No one has massive success totally unaided. That is a ridiculous test that would mean only lottery winners are "self-made" which is ludicrous. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Daydreamer on June 02, 2005, 03:32:40 AM By self-made I mean she didn't have any coattails to ride, no one to pay her tuition, no rich husband, etc. She wasn't born into money. She made her own career, and her career made her rich. She started out as a news anchor. Just because she went into tv instead of programming or business or whatever doesn't diminish her achievement. Agreed. Self-made doesn't mean that everyone respects how you made it, just that you started with nothing and worked for it. No one has massive success totally unaided. That is a ridiculous test that would mean only lottery winners are "self-made" which is ludicrous. So hows about you guys meet half way? Why don't we all agree that Oprah is self-made in the most pointless and unconstructive way possible, having built an empire of books and television on the most base of human emotions, contributing nothing to society except a few hours each week in which her poorly educated and unwashed masses are too busy absorbing her to bother the rest of us... Wait, come to think of it, thats actually quite an acomplishment. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Llava on June 02, 2005, 04:20:38 AM I suck that dick (http://www.opm.gov/img/direct_hire.jpg) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Murgos on June 02, 2005, 05:54:36 AM Quote Shields was referring to Cruise’s upcoming alien movie, War of the Worlds, and not his belief in the teachings of Scientology It would probably be giving Brooke to much credit to think that she was alluding to Scientology but it's a MUCH better slam if she was. The question is though, did the article's editors throw that in just to avoid a hassle from the Church? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on June 02, 2005, 10:35:05 AM The question is though, did the article's editors throw that in just to avoid a hassle from the Church? That would be the smart thing to do. Being "hassled" by Scientology is like being "mildy breezed" by a tornado. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on June 02, 2005, 11:26:37 AM The question is though, did the article's editors throw that in just to avoid a hassle from the Church? That would be the smart thing to do. Being "hassled" by Scientology is like being "mildy breezed" by a tornado. Yeah, I think there's a chapter in their secret religious documents labeled "Legal Cornhole." Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Rodent on June 02, 2005, 01:23:39 PM Less Scientology more beating the fuck out of Oprah. Priorities people!
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 02, 2005, 03:01:10 PM contributing nothing to society except a few hours each week in which her poorly educated and unwashed masses are too busy absorbing her to bother the rest of us... Oprah donates hundreds of thousands of dollars to charities. Good charities, too, like private education for at-risk youth and the like (which means getting street kids, gang kids, kids in abusive homes, etc. into schools that separate them from the risk factors and give them individual attention). I have nothing but respect for that (except the part where she broadcasts it on her show). Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 02, 2005, 03:02:38 PM Quote from: Female First Scientology censor Tom Cruise (http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/43552004.htm) June 2, 2005, 4:20:42 Scientology censor Tom Cruise Tom Cruise has banned girlfriend Katie Holmes from starring in a new film featuring drug use - because it offends Scientologists. The Hollywood heavyweight has allegedly told the brunette beauty she cannot appear in 'Factory Girl' - which documents the life of drug-addicted Andy Warhol protege Edie Sedgwick - because he is opposed to any form of drug taking, whether fictional or real, as a follower of the bizarre cult. A movie insider told America's New York Post newspaper: "Edie was in and out of mental institutions and on all sorts of psychotropic drugs. "Tom doesn't believe in those drugs because of Scientology" Cruise, who has been dating the former 'Dawson's Creek' beauty since last month, is also said to have stopped Katie, 26, from taking the role because it would involve her playing a victim. Another source said: "Tom didn't want her to take the role because it portrayed her as a victim and he said she should only take strong roles". Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 02, 2005, 03:04:07 PM Now she basically HAS to take the roles because otherwise she looks pwnd by a freak.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: ahoythematey on June 02, 2005, 03:19:26 PM Funny, because in Minority Report, Cruise played Anderton as a drug addict, a detail which was not in the original story by Philip K. Dick. More proof that one of the unwritten tenets of scientology is hypocracy.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on June 02, 2005, 06:25:37 PM Yeah I thought about that as well. He was a drug addict in that, but not on psych meds. Perhaps that's how he rationalizes his BS. That, and wiping his tears with hundreds.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Daydreamer on June 03, 2005, 01:20:35 AM Another source said: "Tom didn't want her to take the role because it portrayed her as a victim and he said she should only take strong roles". Ya know Tom, I don't think absorbing your BS is a 'strong role' for Katie. Pounding you with a strap on might count though... Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Der Helm on June 03, 2005, 03:18:28 PM Ya know Tom, I don't think absorbing your BS is a 'strong role' for Katie. Pounding you with a strap on might count though... I'd pay to watch that movie ... Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on June 06, 2005, 05:25:24 AM War of the Worlds looks like it might be good tho.
Seems to have stuck to the book, at least thematically and whatnot. There's really not much reason to whale on Mr Cruise anyways - So his religion is nuts. Isn't everyone's ? (and yeah, I include mine). Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on June 06, 2005, 06:32:31 AM War of the Worlds has Dakota Fanning, right?
She'll save us all. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on June 06, 2005, 06:59:14 AM The trailers make it look damn good. Then again, I suppose trailers have done that from the original "Garden of Eden - The Trailer".
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 06, 2005, 11:22:14 PM Quote from: Page Six TIGHTER GRIP (http://entertainment.excite.com/celebgossip/pgsix/id/06_06_2005_11.html) WHAT'S going on with Katie Holmes? Tom Cruise seems to be exerting ever more control over his sweetie/ fiancée's career. Holmes, who has been spending a lot of time at the Scientology Center in L.A., showed up at the junket for "Batman Begins" at the Regent Beverly Wilshire with "an entourage of Scientologists in tow," said our spy. "At lunch, Tom came and after he left, his sister [and publicist] Lee Anne Devette sat in on all of [Holmes'] interviews. The producers and Warner Bros. are freaking out. They are worried Tom's bad p.r. is going to rub off." Holmes own p.r. man was also at the interviews, but Devette had "control. It's getting weird." Neither Devette or Holmes' rep returned calls. A rep for Warner Bros. declined comment. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on June 07, 2005, 01:46:20 AM OK, So that news is all kinds of fucked up. I love it when women subsume their lives due to their men. It makes me feel special that we gave the silly bitches the vote and allowed them out of the kitchen.
KNOCK IT ON THE HEAD, KATIE - FLEEEEEE Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on June 08, 2005, 11:51:22 AM The trailers make it look damn good. Then again, I suppose trailers have done that from the original "Garden of Eden - The Trailer". I must disagree. The trailers have left me completely cold on the movie. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2005, 02:18:08 PM (http://parangaricutirimicuaro.blogspot.com/tom-cruise-school.jpg) Look how one of his incisors is in the middle of his frenum (that's the little stringy thing that holds you lip to your gums). That's where the centerline space of your teeth is supposed to be, not a tooth! (http://www.progressiveboink.com/b/images/hanna/fangface.jpg) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Abagadro on June 08, 2005, 02:57:59 PM I'm usually pretty immune to the celebrity gossip nonsense, but his antics recently have seriously put me off wanting to see that flick when prior to this I was looking forward to it. Good job there dippy.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 08, 2005, 03:38:30 PM Quote from: AP Cruise, studio reach deal on 'Mission: Impossible 3' (http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/0608Cruise-ON.html) Associated Press Jun. 8, 2005 09:06 AM LOS ANGELES - After more than a week of haggling over costs, Tom Cruise and Paramount Pictures have reached a deal that will allow "Mission: Impossible 3" to move ahead with filming in Italy next month. Paramount Pictures chairman and chief executive officer Brad Grey announced the agreement in a statement Tuesday. Filming will start July 18 on the third installment in the action-adventure series, which is a remake of a popular 1960s TV show. The film will be directed by J.J. Abrams, who joined the project last August, and will be produced by Cruise and his partner, Paula Wagner. "Tom's history with Paramount has made for one of Hollywood's most successful relationships; the opportunity to continue our collaboration with him on 'Mission: Impossible 3' is everything anyone in show business could hope for," Grey said. The deal fell into place after Cruise agreed to adjust his lucrative profit participation deal and shave a budget that had swelled to as much as $185 million, the Los Angeles Times reported. The movie will feature Cruise and co-stars Ving Rhames, Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Michelle Monaghan and Philip Seymour Hoffman. It is set for release on May 5, 2006. Abrams is one of the creators of ABC's "Lost" and "Alias." The first "Mission: Impossible" movie came out in 1996 and was directed by Brian De Palma. John Woo directed "Mission: Impossible II," which was released in 2000. No word yet on how many Scientology tents will be on the set. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Daydreamer on June 09, 2005, 04:30:21 AM Quote from: AP stuff. No word yet on how many Scientology tents will be on the set. Italy eh? They'll never expect the Spanish Inquisition! (http://img63.echo.cx/img63/6323/tt39xg.th.jpg) (http://img63.echo.cx/my.php?image=tt39xg.jpg) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on June 09, 2005, 12:13:25 PM Hopefully, Abrams will write the thing, isntead of the assclown who wrote part 2.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 10, 2005, 05:04:33 PM Quote from: EW TOM FIGHTS BACK (http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1069956-2-5_1||233612|1_,00.html) ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: I don't suppose you want to take this opportunity to announce your engagement to Katie Holmes. TOM CRUISE That's something Kate and I have to talk about. I have to talk to her about that alone. But I have to tell you, this kind of happiness hits you like nothing else. You said on Oprah that you've never felt like this before. Yeah. Have you heard from any ex-wives lately? No, listen, I don't mean to make less of those relationships at all. I wish them happiness. I wish them this kind of happiness. You know, usually when movie stars get romantically involved, they try to keep it quiet. You guys seem to be inviting the whole world to celebrate your relationship. I think it's important in life to celebrate these things. You know, I'm just happy. I can't contain myself. And I'm not going to try. I refuse. What's it like reading all these stories about people not believing the relationship is real, that it's some sort of publicity stunt? It's amusing at first. It's funny. But then you sit back and realize how sad it is that there are people who can't even imagine feeling like this. But my friends are happy for me. The people who know me are happy. My mom is happy. My family is happy. You've been taking a lot of flak for your appearance on Oprah, for all the jumping around you did on the show. Does the criticism bother you? No, I don't care. I can't live my life based on what other people think about me. Who cares what other people say? There are some people who just don't like to see other people happy. They try to actively stop it. They find that sort of happiness ugly. They're in the minority, but they squawk pretty loud. They're like the bullies you grow up with in school. But you know what? If they don't like it, f--- them. If people don't like it, f--- off. Your comments about antidepressants on Access Hollywood — do you think going after Brooke Shields for her book about postpartum depression might have made the argument a little too personal? It's not a matter of making it personal. I care about Brooke. I want to see her do well. I think she's really talented. But she's misinformed. And, you know, from that Access Hollywood interview, I've gotten over 154,000 responses from people thanking me. You should see some of the letters I get. People go for help but their lives don't get better because of these drugs. They get worse. They feel numb and they're told that's a good thing. It's becoming like Huxley's Brave New World. It's like what the English did to China with opium [in the 19th century]. How is this different? It's how you degrade a society — by drugging the piss out of it. You are aware that your views about psychiatry come across as pretty radical to a lot of people. In the 1980s, you were supposed to say no to drugs. But when I say no to drugs, I'm a radical? 'He's against drugs — he's a radical! He's against electroshock treatments — he's a radical!' [Laughing] It's absurd! Yeah, but Scientology textbooks sometimes refer to psychiatry as a ''Nazi science''... Well, look at the history. Jung was an editor for the Nazi papers during World War II. [According to Aryeh Maidenbaum, the director of the New York Center for Jungian Studies, this is not true.] Look at the experimentation the Nazis did with electric shock and drugging. Look at the drug methadone. That was originally called Adolophine. It was named after Adolf Hitler... [According to the Dictionary of Drugs and Medications, among other sources, this is an urban legend.] Well, Freud wasn't a Nazi, but the point I'm getting at here is that expressing these views isn't necessarily a public relations bonanza for you. What choice do I have? People are being electric-shocked. Kids are being drugged. People are dying. There's a perception that you've become more passionate about this issue recently, about Scientology in general... I've always been passionate about it. I've always talked about it when people asked about it. The only change that's occurred since the early 1990s has been the increase in the amount of drugs being used. That's what's changed. Has anybody in Hollywood come to you — your agents or studio people — and asked you to stop talking about any of this? I've had a lot of encouragement and a lot of thanks, that's what I've had. What about that Scientology massage tent on the War of the Worlds set? Was that just massages or was it proselytizing? I also had a cappuccino tent on that set. And I made sure the crews were fed well, too. And if someone wanted an assist from a [Scientology] volunteer, it was there for them. People are curious about it — they're always asking me about it, they want to know what Scientology is. What about Katie? Is she curious about Scientology? Yeah, absolutely. She digs it. There was a story in one of the gossip columns that you had asked her not to do Factory Girl because of the drug use in the movie. I don't even know what Factory Girl is. It's a film about Edie Sedgwick and Andy Warhol. I don't know anything about that. Listen, the thing you've got to know about Katie is that she's an incredibly bright and self-determined woman. She makes her own decisions. Let me try this again — will any of those decisions involve a ring? [Whispering, with a grin] It's gonna happen, man. It'll happen. (Posted:06/08/05) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 10, 2005, 06:50:08 PM /shudder
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on June 10, 2005, 07:34:50 PM I hate EW more than Tom Cruise.
This thread makes me cry. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on June 10, 2005, 11:41:11 PM It's one thing to be happy, it's another thing to knowingly spread lies to an already undereducated public. Somebody needs to put a cork in it.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Samprimary on June 11, 2005, 06:34:42 AM If I were running a cult that preyed on the emotionally needy and funneled money out of them while indoctrinating them into a tightly regulated and manipulative social/theological system designed to bleed one's self-reliance into cult dependancy using unscrupulous psychological techniques? It would serve me well to teach the indoctrinees that "psychologists are the enemy!" to try to prevent, as much as possible, any breakthroughs or interventions by individuals trained in counseling and deprogramming.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 11, 2005, 12:48:48 PM Has it occurred to anyone that he's acting so strange because he's off his meds? Sauced thought of that one.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on June 13, 2005, 09:06:35 AM If I were running a cult that preyed on the emotionally needy and funneled money out of them while indoctrinating them into a tightly regulated and manipulative social/theological system designed to bleed one's self-reliance into cult dependancy using unscrupulous psychological techniques? It would serve me well to teach the indoctrinees that "psychologists are the enemy!" to try to prevent, as much as possible, any breakthroughs or interventions by individuals trained in counseling and deprogramming. L. Ron? Is that you? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on June 13, 2005, 09:20:59 AM Now, I don't like psychiatrists or the therapy nation. I don't like the amount of drugs these people are prescribing.
But fuck, Tom, get off the high fucking horse, Brother Blood. If he was talking about coke, or heroin, that'd be one thing. But when he starts saying that essentially all use of drugs in pyschiatric treatment is wrong, especially in post-partum treatment, a time when suicide is a very real danger, he needs to lay off the L. Ron pipe and get a glass of STFU. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Mr_PeaCH on June 13, 2005, 10:02:36 AM http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/gossip/tom-cruise/index.php
For anyone who needs more dirt on T.C. and Katie and L. Ron, etc. the Defamer is great. My favorite is the replay of his "Australian 60 Minutes" interview (June 6) where Tom gets a mite testy. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Miasma on June 13, 2005, 11:54:40 AM I just saw this stuff (http://www.cafepress.com/shop/katie?CMP=KAC-overture2&OVRAW=free%20katie&OVKEY=free%20katie&OVMTC=standard) today. Those T-shirt people are fast.
(http://prodtn.cafepress.com/6/23580226_F_tn.jpg)(http://prodtn.cafepress.com/8/14951328_F_tn.jpg) Edit: To make clear it is a reference to Katie Holmes because I was unsure if Fargull was being sarcastic :-). Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Fargull on June 13, 2005, 11:58:14 AM Is Couric in prison? Wow, shine on you crazy diamond you.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on June 13, 2005, 12:29:46 PM Too late - Katie is taking the plunge. (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/13/people.holmes.ap/index.html)
The LRH plunge that is. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Yegolev on June 14, 2005, 08:53:18 AM Too late - Katie is taking the plunge. (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/13/people.holmes.ap/index.html) The LRH plunge that is. I didn't need another reason to hate Couric. I did not read Dianetics, but I read Battlefield Earth twice and Mission Earth once. Hubbard hated him some psychologists. Cruise is just repeating his training. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on June 14, 2005, 09:52:53 AM You read Battlefield Earth TWICE ???! Are you fucking insane ?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on June 14, 2005, 09:54:05 AM In the end it all comes down to Thetans.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: RhyssaFireheart on June 14, 2005, 11:07:37 AM Quote from: Katie in CNN article The former Catholic and star of television's "Dawson's Creek" grew up with a poster of Cruise on her bedroom wall and has said she grew up wanting to marry him. There's just something wrong about dating someone who's picture you had on the wall growing up. Katie: "OMG! Like, Tom Cruise is just the dreamiest!" Friend: "He so totally is! *squeal*" Katie: "Im like, gonna marry him when I grow up." *nods* Friend: "No way! I'm gonna marry him!" Katie: "Will not!" Friend: "Will to!" ... (Editted for fatfingering the enter key. I hate laptop keyboards.) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Yegolev on June 14, 2005, 01:50:44 PM You read Battlefield Earth TWICE ???! Are you fucking insane ? I am now. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Hoax on June 14, 2005, 02:39:57 PM My paperback copy of that book was missing about 100 pages which had been replaced with 100 pages I had already read, it was towards the end too. I was happy. That was the worst Grayhound book ever...
Oh and this thread might have scared me back to just the game forums, there are bad things happening out there in the world. Between this and that whole Africa thing I'm not sure why I should get up in the morning anymore. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Bunk on June 14, 2005, 02:45:21 PM I can out do you guys. Not only did I read Battlefield Earth in highschool, but I won a contest amongst my friends to see who could finish all ten volumes of Mission Earth fastest - only reading them while in class. It took about two months.
Soltan Gris is my hero. (except for the whole cockgobbling stuff - which he was tricked in to anyways) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on June 14, 2005, 03:24:04 PM Holy hell man! Bunk is one of them!
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 14, 2005, 03:33:37 PM Holy hell man! Bunk is one of them! The fingers of Xenu reach far. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Daydreamer on June 15, 2005, 03:20:34 AM I can out do you guys. Not only did I read Battlefield Earth in highschool, but I won a contest amongst my friends to see who could finish all ten volumes of Mission Earth fastest - only reading them while in class. It took about two months. Is it just me or is Jet Heller the SINGLE flatest character in the history of science fiction? Talk about Alpha Male stereotype - he makes Honor Harrington look nuanced by comparisson. And the whole redeem-a-slut thing was totally there solely for the crotchshot value. Though Soltan was fun, and some of the set pieces were cool (the talent show club, the first stuff with the PR man, and the Soltan-gets-a-new-cock stuff). You could still squeeze all the stupid out and make a decent trilogy though.Soltan Gris is my hero. (except for the whole cockgobbling stuff - which he was tricked in to anyways) Oh, and I see your two months and raise you - I finished them all in 15 days, because I was grounded at the time for getting a C+ in French. Not equivalent of course, since I read out of class only rather than in, but still set a personal record there in terms of sustained pages/hour I have yet to beat. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Murgos on June 15, 2005, 05:32:03 AM Is it just me or is Jet Heller the SINGLE flatest character in the history of science fiction? That was absolutely on purpose. He is a parody of the Heinlein (and many other Sci-Fi stories of the time) lead characters. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Bunk on June 15, 2005, 07:48:13 AM Yea, I honestly think you were supposed to empathise with Soltan throughout the story, even if he was a right bastard.
Personally, I am of the oppinion though that Hubbard died about halfway through writing book 10, and his peons finished it for him. I've never read a book that shifted gears and style so dramatically half way through, and just wrapped everything up at light speed. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Yegolev on June 16, 2005, 07:47:50 AM Yea, I honestly think you were supposed to empathise with Soltan throughout the story, even if he was a right bastard. I think so. Hubbard was probably crazy, but he did a good job of getting his satire across. There's no way he intended those books to be taken completely seriously. Everybody was a caricature. Been many years since I read those, though, so I don't remember a huge amount. Compared to Battlefield Earth, I consider Mission Earth a comedy. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Trippy on June 17, 2005, 02:48:25 AM Tom Cruise Proposes to Katie Holmes (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050617/ap_en_mo/cruise_holmes;_ylt=A9FJqYMInLJCfcAAEhFxFb8C;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)
Run Katie, run! It's not too late to save yourself! Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on June 17, 2005, 02:54:20 AM Tom Cruise Proposes to Katie Holmes (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050617/ap_en_mo/cruise_holmes;_ylt=A9FJqYMInLJCfcAAEhFxFb8C;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl) Run Katie, run! It's not too late to save yourself! Hey, don't be a fucking douche. It's every woman's God Given right to have a batshit insane Gay husband. You leave her alone. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Tebonas on June 17, 2005, 03:02:36 AM Hubbard got his satire across in many ways. People like Tom Cruise just don't get it.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Daydreamer on June 17, 2005, 04:18:47 AM Which reminds me why I spend my time hunting down and playing Daikatana rather than reading about which starlett is fucking which ageing teen-heartthrob/action hero turned aging-serious-actor
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Murgos on June 17, 2005, 07:33:40 AM Hubbard got his satire across in many ways. People like Tom Cruise just don't get it. I always get a chuckle out of the fact that John Travolta named his kid after Jet Heller who was for all intents and purposes the bad guy of the story and a satire of everything Scientoloy seems to think it can accomplish. People go through a lot of effort to rationalize thier beliefs, I would like to see how the Church of Scientology handles some of the stuff Hubbard says about psychologically mindfucking people in Mission Earth, I bet it would be good for a laugh. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on June 17, 2005, 08:56:13 AM This has officially ruined Katie Holmes for me. Saw Batman Begins last night, and in every one of her scenes, all I could think about was Tom Cruise being attached to her at the face. It was bewildering and more than a little offputting.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on June 17, 2005, 09:47:08 AM Tom Cruise Proposes to Katie Holmes (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050617/ap_en_mo/cruise_holmes;_ylt=A9FJqYMInLJCfcAAEhFxFb8C;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl) Run Katie, run! It's not too late to save yourself! WHY THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN NEWS? WHY DO I HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT THIS ON GOOD FUCKING MORNING FUCKING AMERICA? PAT O'BRIEN SHOULDN'T EVEN BE TELLING ME THIS! WHEN WILL TOM CRUISE FUCKING DIE AND LEAVE MY TELEVISION ALONE AND UNMOLESTED? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 17, 2005, 10:02:35 AM This has officially ruined Katie Holmes for me. Saw Batman Begins last night, and in every one of her scenes, all I could think about was Tom Cruise being attached to her at the face. It was bewildering and more than a little offputting. Yeah, Katie Holmes was distracting in Batman for me as well because of the Tom Cruise factor. And War of Worlds looks bad. Not Dukes of Hazzard bad, but bad nonetheless. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on June 17, 2005, 10:16:03 AM Uhm.
Dukes of Hazzard bad? What? It's done by the Broken Lizard guys. It will be fucking hilarious. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 17, 2005, 10:16:32 AM Uhm. Dukes of Hazzard bad? What? It's done by the Broken Lizard guys. It will be fucking hilarious. No it won't. It looks like complete and utter shit. End of story. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: kaid on June 17, 2005, 10:17:20 AM No it has Johnny knoxville and stifler it is going to be ass.
kaid Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on June 17, 2005, 10:17:31 AM Have you seen Supertroopers?
You're wrong, k? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on June 17, 2005, 10:18:55 AM Ok, look, Dukes of Hazzard always sucked. Never good. Very Bad.
Making a movie of it is a stupid idea. I'm just looking at it as a Broken Lizard movie. That makes it good. It could be called Slappy Dappy Fun With Mike the Obsessive Compulsive Office Pencil Sharpener and I'd enjoy it. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 17, 2005, 11:52:45 AM Or would you enjoy seeing JEssica Simpson in Daisy Dukes?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Samwise on June 17, 2005, 11:55:32 AM No, it has Johnny Knoxville and Stifler. It will therefore be the best movie ever. There were some grammatical errors in there, but I fixed them for you. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 17, 2005, 11:57:02 AM No, it has Johnny Knoxville and Stifler. It will therefore be the best movie ever. There were some grammatical errors in there, but I fixed them for you. hehe! Johnny Knoxville does kinda kick ass, doesn't he? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 17, 2005, 12:05:51 PM Enough. Can we get back to the trainwreck that is Tom & Katie? Thanks.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on June 17, 2005, 12:19:14 PM No.
Dukes of Hazzard will be mindless fun with a bunch of funny bits thrown in because it's the Broken Lizard guys. And I <3 them or something. And it will have Jessica "I don't have a mind but look at my tits" Simpson in Daisy Duke pants playing Daisy Duke. Win wni. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 17, 2005, 12:31:13 PM I hate you people.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Bunk on June 17, 2005, 01:04:03 PM Am I wrong for being the only person I know that actually thought Club Dread was hilarious? I still think the "Decapitated Head-Camera Angle" is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on June 17, 2005, 01:21:37 PM Club Dread was a scream. It was actually one of the best teen slasher flicks I've seen in years and yet was still a funny satire as well. Club Dread is what made me see Super Troopers, and the two of those movies is what made me think Dukes will be fun.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Bunk on June 18, 2005, 08:32:00 AM Saw the Dukes trailer before Batman last night. Shit was that a lousy trailer. I still think the movie will be fun, but based on the trailer - the cheesy line factor is going to be aneurism inducing.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Arnold on June 20, 2005, 01:04:47 AM Tom Cruise has a very good agent. There is no way someone with LESS acting talent could exist in Hollywood. He's been in enough good movies despite his clear lack of any business acting to tell me that it's all in the agent. Does Keanu have the same agent, because it's the same thing with him. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on June 20, 2005, 01:11:21 AM Yea, when I saw the full trailer on the big screen, I realized how Not Like A Broken Lizard Movie they made it. They must've substantially cut the shit out of it to try and make it appeal to everyone. But there was one good line: "You shouldn't wear white after labor day."
That's something Farva would say (the fat guy in SuperTroopers). And it's hilarious. Oh and Jessica Simpson is all sorts of hot in there. And can someone explain to me how her boobs do what they do in her new video (These Boots are Made for Walking). Because, I'll admit, it's magical. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Arnold on June 20, 2005, 01:27:29 AM Yea, when I saw the full trailer on the big screen, I realized how Not Like A Broken Lizard Movie they made it. They must've substantially cut the shit out of it to try and make it appeal to everyone. But there was one good line: "You shouldn't wear white after labor day." That's something Farva would say (the fat guy in SuperTroopers). And it's hilarious. Oh and Jessica Simpson is all sorts of hot in there. And can someone explain to me how her boobs do what they do in her new video (These Boots are Made for Walking). Because, I'll admit, it's magical. Hmm, I think it would be more appropriate for Jessica to appear the video for the Megadeth Versrion of that song =P Of course, if you made it nowadays, healf of it would be bleeped out. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 20, 2005, 02:40:26 AM I repeat: Dukes of Hazzard will suck major ass.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 20, 2005, 12:11:41 PM I was in NEw Orleans last March as they were finishing up. Cool city, but yes, I, too, believe the movie will be teh ass.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: OcellotJenkins on June 20, 2005, 12:30:15 PM Back on topic:
Cruise Hosed (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050620/ap_en_mo/people_cruise_6&printer=1;_ylt=AvYjVVGF6AmDPER9.lSxQjumG78C;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-) Video (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=entertainment&clip=/media/2005/06/20/video702970&sec=500202&vidId=500202&title=Cruise$@$Red$@$Carpet$@$Outburst&hitboxMLC=entertainment) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Mr_PeaCH on June 20, 2005, 12:31:18 PM I didn't realize it was the Broken Lizard guys... there may be some hope yet but I'm certainly pessimistic. The previews for the DoH movie that I've seen look like a southern-fried version of "The Fast and the Furious". :roll:
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 04:01:41 PM (http://static.ytmnd.com:8000/79000/79299/image.gif)
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 05:52:25 PM Robot Xenu h8s u.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Riggswolfe on June 23, 2005, 05:57:58 PM Well, as much fun as it is to knock on Cruise for his Scientology beliefs, that "prank" was out of line. He handled it much better than I would have and he does deserve praise for that. I think alot of us would have been over that rope and yelling at the guy while shaking him like a dog with a chewtoy.
He was right, that guy was a jerk and I hope that he'll learn a lesson. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: TheWalrus on June 23, 2005, 10:21:51 PM He should have just leaned in real close and told Tommy in an urgent whisper "The thetans made me do it! You gotta help me man!".
But yeah, jerky. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: OcellotJenkins on June 24, 2005, 08:07:22 AM Quote from: Matt Drudge XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX FRI JUNE 24, 2005 10:51:08 ET XXXXX CRUISE 'WAR OF WORLDS' INTERVIEW TURNS INTO LECTURE ON PSYCHIATRY, SCIENTOLOGY NBC 'TODAY SHOW' host Matt Lauer was lectured by star Tom Cruise on the dangers of psychiatry and antidepressant during a promotional interview for WAR OF THE WORLDS. The exchange aired Friday morning. LAUER: TOM CRUISE CREATED A FIRESTORM WHEN HE CRITICIZED BROOKE SHIELDS FOR REVEALING THAT SHE WENT INTO THERAPY AND TOOK ANTIDEPRESSANTS TO DEAL WITH HER POST PARTUM DEPRESSION. AS A SCIENTOLGIST, HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN PSYCHIATRIC MEDICINE. I ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS COMMENTS. CRUISE: i've never agreed with psychiatry, ever. Before I was a Scientologist I never agreed with psychiatry. and when i started studying the history of psychiatry, i understood more and more why i didn't believe in psychology. //And as far as the Brooke Shields thing is, look. You gotta understand, I really care about Brooke Shields. I-- I think here's a-- a-- a wonderful and talented woman. And-- I wanna see her do well. And I know that-- psychiatry is-- is a pseudo science. MATT LAUER: But-- but Tom, if she said that this particular thing helped her feel better, whether it was the antidepressant or going to a counselor or psychiatrist, isn't that enough? // TOM CRUISE: Matt, you have to understand this. Here we are today where I talk out against drugs and psychiatric abuses of electric shocking people (PH), okay, against their will, of drugging children with them not knowing the effects of these drugs. Do you know what Aderol (PH) is? Do you know Ritalin? Do you know now that Ritalin is a street drug? Do you understand that? MATT LAUER: The difference is-- (OVERTALK) TOM CRUISE: No, no, Matt. MATT LAUER: This wasn't against her will, though. TOM CRUISE: Matt-- Matt, Matt, Matt-- MATT LAUER: But this wasn't against her will. TOM CRUISE: Matt, I'm-- Matt, I'm asking you a question. MATT LAUER: I understand there's abuse of all of these things. TOM CRUISE: No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.// MATT LAUER: //aren't there examples, and might not Brooke Shields be an example, of someone who benefited from one of those drugs? TOM CRUISE: all it does is mask the problem, Matt. And if you understand the history of it, it masks the problem. That's what it does. That's all it does. You're not getting to the reason why. There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. (OVERTALK) MATT LAUER: So, postpartum depression to you is-- TOM CRUISE: Matt-- MATT LAUER: --kind of a-- TOM CRUISE: --don't-- MATT LAUER: --little psychological gook-- TOM CRUISE: That-- MATT LAUER: --googley-gook? TOM CRUISE: --no. No. I did not say that. MATT LAUER: I'm just asking what you-- what would you call it? TOM CRUISE: No. No. Abs-- Matt, that is-- the-- post-- now-- now, you're talking about two different things. MATT LAUER: But that's what she went on the-- TOM CRUISE: No. MATT LAUER: --antidepressant for. TOM CRUISE: But what happens, the antidepressant, all it does is mask the problem. There's ways of vitamins and through exercise and various things. I'm not saying that that isn't real. That's not what I'm saying. That's an alteration of what-- what I'm saying. I'm saying that drugs aren't the answer, these drugs are very dangerous. They're mind-altering, anti-psychotic drugs. And there are ways of doing it without that so that we don't end up in a brave new world. // the thing that I'm saying about Brooke is that there's misinformation, okay. And she doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She-- she doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it, Matt. // MATT LAUER: But a little bit what you're saying Tom is, you say you want people to do well. But you want them do to well by taking the road that you approve of, as opposed to a road that may work for them. TOM CRUISE: No, no, I'm not. MATT LAUER: Well, if antidepressants work for Brooke Shields, why isn't that okay? TOM CRUISE: I-- I disagree with it. And I think that there's a higher and better quality of life. And I think that promoting for me personally, see, you're saying what, I can't discuss what I wanna discuss? MATT LAUER: No. You absolutely can. TOM CRUISE: I know. But-- but Matt, you're going in and saying that-- that I can't discuss this. MATT LAUER: I'm only asking, isn't there a possibility that-- do-- do you examine the possibility that these things do work for some people? That yes, there are abuses. And yes, maybe they've gone too far in certain areas. Maybe there are too many kids on Ritalin. Maybe electric shock-- TOM CRUISE: Too many kids on Ritalin? Matt. MATT LAUER: I'm just saying. But-- but aren't there-- TOM CRUISE: Matt. MATT LAUER: --examples where it works? TOM CRUISE: Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even-- you're glib. You don't even know what Ritalin is.// //if you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, Matt, okay. That's what I've done. Then you go and you say where's-- where's the medical test? Where's the blood test that says how much Ritalin you're supposed to get? MATT LAUER: You're-- you're-- it's very impressive to listen to you. Because clearly, you've done the homework. And-- and you know the subject. TOM CRUISE: And you should. MATT LAUER: And-- and-- TOM CRUISE: And you should do that also. MATT LAUER: And-- TOM CRUISE: Because just knowing people who are on Ritalin isn't enough. //you should be a little bit more responsible in knowing really-- MATT LAUER: I'm not prescribing Ritalin, Tom. And I'm not asking-- TOM CRUISE: Well-- MATT LAUER: --anyone else to do it. I'm simply saying-- (OVERTALK) TOM CRUISE: Well, you are. You're saying-- MATT LAUER: I know some people who seem to have been helped by it. TOM CRUISE: I-- but you're saying-- but you-- like-- this is a very important issue. MATT LAUER: I couldn't agree more. TOM CRUISE: It's very-- and you know what? You're here on the Today Show. MATT LAUER: Right. TOM CRUISE: And to talk about it in a way of saying, "Well, isn't it okay," and being reasonable about it when you don't know and I do, I think that you should be a little bit more responsible in knowing what it is. MATT LAUER: But-- TOM CRUISE: Because you-- you communicate to people. MATT LAUER: But you're now telling me that your experiences with the people I know, which are zero, are more important than my experiences. TOM CRUISE: What do you mean by that? MATT LAUER: You're telling me what's worked for people I know or hasn't worked for people I know. // i'm telling you i've lived with these people and they're better. TOM CRUISE: So, you're-- you're advocating it. MATT LAUER: I am not. I'm telling you in their case-- (LAUGHTER) (OVERTALK) MATT LAUER: In their individual case, it worked. I am not gonna go out and say-- TOM CRUISE: Matt-- MATT LAUER: --"Get your kids on Ritalin. It's the cure-all-- TOM CRUISE: Matt, Matt. MATT LAUER: --and the end-all." TOM CRUISE: Matt, but here's the point. what is the ideal scene for life TOM CRUISE: Okay. Ideal scene is someone not having to take anti-psychotic drugs. MATT LAUER: I would agree. TOM CRUISE: Okay. So, now you look at-- and you go okay. A-- a departure from that ideal scene is someone taking drugs, okay. And then you go, okay. What is the theory and the science behind that, that justifies that? MATT LAUER: Let me take this more general, 'cause I think you and I can go around in circles on this for awhile. And i respect your opinion ... MATT LAUER: Do you want more people to understand Scientology? Is that-- would that be a goal of yours? TOM CRUISE: You know what? I-- absolutely. Of course, you know. And people-- MATT LAUER: How do you go about that? TOM CRUISE: You just communicate about it. And the important thing is, like you and I talk about it, whether it's-- okay, if I wanna know something, I go and find out. /Because I don't talk about things that I don't understand. I'll say, you know what? I'm not so sure about that. I'll go find more information about it so I can-- I can come to an opinion based on-- on the information that I have. MATT LAUER: You-- you're so passionate about it. And I'm-- TOM CRUISE: I'm passionate about learning. I'm passionate about life, Matt. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 24, 2005, 09:43:07 AM ....
Yeah, I definitely think Tom's simply gone off his meds. His meds for paranoid schizophrenia. How else can anyone explain this sudden madness? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on June 24, 2005, 09:57:29 AM Batshit insane. He really is over the edge. Hopefully he will blow himself up in the middle of a Scientology meeting.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 24, 2005, 10:08:14 AM No, no... you.. you don't understand. You... don't know the history of Tom like I do. I've studied it. You need to study it. You need to learn the history.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on June 24, 2005, 10:31:44 AM Does anyone believe that Tom actually has read about the history of psychology? Of course he hasn't. He has read the Scientology handbook on why it's "bad." The history of psychology is nothing more complicated than watching behavioral patterns in human beings and then testing those patterns to see how extreme they can become. Everyone knows that psychologists "cure" their patients by guiding the patients to self-realization and recognition of how past behavior (of the self or others) is affecting current behavior.
Tom Cruise is imploding before our very eyes and it is quite entertaining. War of the Worlds won't crack $200M at the domestic box office. I predict a sub-$80M 4th of july weekend take. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on June 24, 2005, 10:39:20 AM Tom obviously went to the Ross Perot school of how to interrupt people in a conversation at all times.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on June 24, 2005, 12:30:16 PM He needs a good SSRI. "As your attorney I prescribe Lexapro."
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on June 24, 2005, 12:32:48 PM He needs a good beating, followed by a deprogramming.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 24, 2005, 01:47:35 PM Quote from: The Bastion of Truth: Fox News Katie Holmes' Missing Days (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160192,00.html) Tuesday, June 21, 2005 By Roger Friedman The newly engaged Katie Holmes still has some explaining to do to her friends and family. There were 16 days in April during which no one seems to know where she was. Holmes made a public appearance on April 4 at the premiere of "Steel Magnolias" on Broadway. She came with her publicist, Leslie Sloane Zelnick, and a couple of other friends. They were there to support Rebecca Gayheart, who was making her Broadway debut. I know this because I spoke to Holmes at length during the play's intermission. She said she had just moved into her New York apartment and was looking forward to seeing the city. I also know that on April 4, she had not yet made the acquaintance of Tom Cruise. She briefly dated Josh Hartnett after breaking up with actor Chris Klein. Hartnett, Klein, Cruise: Which of these three is not like the others? Klein and Hartnett are young and tall. Cruise is middle-aged and height-challenged. On the other hand, he's the biggest movie star in the world. They are not. Holmes was busy during that first week in April. On April 7, she was photographed at the Fragrance Foundation's FiFi event. Four days later, Holmes was still in New York and was photographed at VH1's "Save the Music" concert. She still had not met Cruise. Sometime that week, her friends say, she flew to Los Angeles for a meeting with Cruise about a role in "Mission: Impossible 3." The meeting took place after April 11. The next time anyone heard from Holmes was on April 27, when she appeared in public as Cruise's girlfriend and love of his life. Where was she during those 16 days? Somewhere during that time, she decided to fire both her manager and agent, each of whom she had been with for years and who were devoted to her. The manager, John Carrabino, also handles Renée Zellweger and is beloved by his clients. Holmes also acquired a new best friend, Jessica Feshbach, the daughter of Joe Feshbach, a controversial Palo Alto, Calif., bond trader. The Feshbach family, according to published documents, has donated millions to the Church of Scientology. Jessica's aunt even runs a Scientology center in Florida. According to Richard Behar's now famous 1991 story in Time magazine about Scientology, the Feshbachs were the subject of congressional hearings in 1989. Behar wrote: "The heads of several companies claimed that Feshbach operatives have spread false information to government agencies and posed in various guises — such as a Securities and Exchange Commission official — in an effort to discredit the companies and drive the stocks down. "Michael Russell, who ran a chain of business journals, testified that a Feshbach employee called his bankers and interfered with his loans. Sometimes the Feshbachs send private detectives to dig up dirt on firms, which is then shared with business reporters, brokers and fund managers." The risk-taking Feshbachs, known the world over for making their fortune "shorting" stocks, and the level-headed, conservative Holmeses would be a difficult mix at a dinner table. Katie's father, Martin Holmes, is the senior partner in a large and respected Toledo, Ohio, law firm. His son, Martin Jr., has recently joined the firm. He's a Harvard graduate. Katie's mom, Kathy, is frequently cited in Toledo for her charity work. There is some fear among Holmes' close circle that her instant romance with Cruise is not as organic as portrayed. For one thing, Holmes was raised a strict Catholic. Also, gone from the picture are two close Holmes friends who used to be with her when she did publicity for a film. One of these is Meghann Birie, a childhood friend who has suddenly disappeared from Holmes' world. Another, a local TV producer here in New York, was too afraid to discuss the situation with me. We know that Cruise auditioned several actresses for this role before settling on Holmes. This column reported a story about Jennifer Garner. There have been published stories about Kate Bosworth, Lindsay Lohan and Jessica Alba being approached. A newer one involves Scarlett Johansson, who ran for her life when presented with a fait accompli dinner at the Scientology Celebrity Centre in Hollywood. And history has been rewritten since the April 27 unveiling. Curiously, since the Cruise-Holmes situation popped up, we have heard over and over again that Cruise was the young actress' idol when she was growing up. That's certainly interesting because all of the publicity that used to run on Holmes — still found all over the Internet — lists another Tom as her favorite actor. That would be Tom Hanks. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Roac on June 24, 2005, 02:17:40 PM btw, for those interested MSNBC is hosting a video of Tom's interview on their front page.
The very few points that Tom is worth defending on - one is that it's psychiatry (and specifically, mind-altering medication), not psychology, that Scientology is against. The former is the medical treatment (via drugs) of various mental disorders, while the latter is the study of mental processes. He's also mostly right in that normally drugs mask mental problems, not cure them. There's also legitimate complaint about psychiatry in that direct causes are rarely identified. But... that's not much of an argument of anything to hang a hat on. Doesn't make a dent in the neccessity in some cases for drugs. "I am Tom Cruise of Borg. Your understanding is lacking. You will be audited." Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Riggswolfe on June 24, 2005, 02:51:59 PM you know Shockeye, after reading that article, my first thought was "sounds like Invasion of the Body Snatchers." In a way it does, it's almost like she was whisked off for 2 weeks and brainwashed.
Really, it's kind of freaky the way she's cutting herself off from friends she used to know. Can you say "Classic symptoms?" Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on June 24, 2005, 05:09:56 PM She's going to end up dead soon. Possibly of "unexplained circumstances". Tom will be crushed but rebound in front of everyone talking about how vitamins are helping him grieve.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Fabricated on June 24, 2005, 10:02:44 PM Q: Who the fuck cares about Tom Cruise again?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Margalis on June 24, 2005, 11:45:04 PM Katie Holmes still looks like she's 12 years old. She's kind of gross really, and her facial expression is always just completely vapid. She's a perfect brainwashing candidate.
Personally I'd take Nicole Kidman, 40 or so years and all any day. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Samprimary on June 25, 2005, 11:00:30 AM Quote one is that it's psychiatry (and specifically, mind-altering medication), not psychology, that Scientology is against. Scientology is against psychology, as well. And the CoS tends to lump the two fields together, and play up claims against the science. Scientology has some of the most off-base views about psychiatry and psychology I've ever found. I suppose it makes sense, considering that L. Ron was a paranoid, psycho son-of-a-bitch who popped pills and saw things that weren't there and threw people off of ships - the end result is that you get somewhat negative reviews on your mental health. Also, Scientology has good reason to instill a paranoia and hatred of legitimate scientific processes and bodies of knowledge; I suppose they would hate to have their good, well-paying Scientology inductees find out that Dianetics is total pseudoscience .. to say nothing of the rest of it. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Roac on June 25, 2005, 11:36:40 AM Really, it's kind of freaky the way she's cutting herself off from friends she used to know. Scientology is a modern gnostic cult. Their auditing is nothing more than brain washing with a new title, and their teachings are aimed to isolate members. It's interesting because unlike most cults which attempt to physically isolate members, Scientology does so intellectually. It's more than their anti-psychiatric drug stance; it's also their ideas on alien invaders and such, many of their 'helpful' institutions (Narcon, etc) and the fake science they fabricate to support them. The push is to get members dependant upon Scientology over anything else. Even worse, their gnostic tendancies have evolved into lawsuit happy assaults for any public disclosure of their documents; this does much to kill public discussion on the group. This isn't just a matter of some misled people with bad ideas; it's a group whose express purpose is to entrap people using multiple tactics in order to profit. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on June 25, 2005, 12:29:59 PM Interesting interview with the head of Scientology back in 1992 on Nightline. (http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/videos/video4.html)
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Samprimary on June 25, 2005, 12:30:33 PM Heh heh - one part of the indoctrination process is to hook them up to an E-meter as a 'lie detector' and then have them do a 'confession session'. Which is, of course, heavily documented and recorded, so that it can be used as blackmail persuasion to either keep existing members in or to silence escaped members.
Also, Scientology's use of 'Dead Agenting' is creepy shit. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on June 26, 2005, 11:24:52 AM One time when I was about 18 or so I was walking around downtown and saw the "Free Personality Test" sign. I had never really heard anything about Scientology (actually had it confused with "Christian Science" for awhile), just saw the stack of Dianetics in the window, which I also knew nothing about. So I went in. I love being evaluated, and it was free, so why not? It took an hour to complete the three-or-so part questionaire that determined that I have many anger and aggression issues stemming from my childhood, my time in the womb, and my previous existences. Evidently, my dad yelled at my mom while she was pregnant with me and so I've been imprinted with fear and anger. The scientologists wanted me to start on a strict regimen of niacin, which they start in small doses and increase until you're mega-dosing on it and eliminating radiation from your body. Also, they wanted me to go away on some week-long retreat. I told them "no thanks" and was on my way.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on June 27, 2005, 09:23:44 AM Someone needs to handcuff Tom to a paranoid schizophrenic for a week and see how fast he starts screaming for meds.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on June 27, 2005, 10:59:29 AM Batshit insane. He really is over the edge. Hopefully he will blow himself up in the middle of a Scientology meeting. And -- and don't forget raging --- Raging douchebag. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on June 27, 2005, 11:22:55 AM I am tempted to get a petition of signees together to send to Spielberg promising not to see WotW strictly due to Cruise's involvement. It won't matter for shit, but it would make me happy.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Roac on June 27, 2005, 01:18:22 PM I am tempted to get a petition of signees together to send to Spielberg promising not to see WotW strictly due to Cruise's involvement. It won't matter for shit, but it would make me happy. /sign I was thinking about it as a rental, but I don't think I can take any Cruise movie now, at least for a good while. Plenty of actors/actresses I don't care for, but he's the only one that has ever, for me, detracted from a film due to RL crazies. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Rasix on June 27, 2005, 01:21:56 PM I am tempted to get a petition of signees together to send to Spielberg promising not to see WotW strictly due to Cruise's involvement. It won't matter for shit, but it would make me happy. /sign I was thinking about it as a rental, but I don't think I can take any Cruise movie now, at least for a good while. Plenty of actors/actresses I don't care for, but he's the only one that has ever, for me, detracted from a film due to RL crazies. He's about to join Mel Gibson on my list for that. I TIVO'd Collateral because I thuroughly enjoyed watching it the first time. I wonder if I watch it now, how long it'll take me to turn it off just because Cruise is present. Last time I watched Braveheart I couldn't get past the first hour before ejecting the DVD. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Roac on June 27, 2005, 01:23:08 PM He's about to join Mel Gibson on my list for that. Resulting from what, Passion? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Rasix on June 27, 2005, 01:31:18 PM He's about to join Mel Gibson on my list for that. Resulting from what, Passion? The media blitz surrounding it (his interviews, etc) and just the general way he's been carrying himself ever since then. He really didn't need to get involved in stem cell research debates. The film itself I'll probably never see unless it's on HBO, just because I've heard it wasn't a great film unless the subject matter interested you. But lets not turn this into a religious or Passion debate, K? This is about creepy scientologists. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on June 27, 2005, 01:41:54 PM Quote This is about creepy scientologists. Is that adjective really necessary? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: tazelbain on June 27, 2005, 01:49:00 PM Quote This is about creepy scientologists. Is that adjective really necessary? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on June 27, 2005, 01:56:45 PM No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.// No, you- you see - you, you're glib.// Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: AOFanboi on June 27, 2005, 02:52:00 PM The media blitz surrounding it (his interviews, etc) and just the general way he's been carrying himself ever since then. He really didn't need to get involved in stem cell research debates. The film itself I'll probably never see unless it's on HBO, just because I've heard it wasn't a great film unless the subject matter interested you. Well, Gibson is the Tom Cruise of conservative Catholicism, after all. Or maybe the John Travolta? Travolta after all has made at least two Scientology-oriented films (Battlefield Earth and Phenomenon) and I haven't measured how much influence the CoS had on Michael.Gibson still has some way to go before he's the new Cecil B. DeMille, though. Ten Commandments, Samson and Delilah and all that. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on June 27, 2005, 03:58:02 PM I am tempted to get a petition of signees together to send to Spielberg promising not to see WotW strictly due to Cruise's involvement. It won't matter for shit, but it would make me happy. /sign I was thinking about it as a rental, but I don't think I can take any Cruise movie now, at least for a good while. Plenty of actors/actresses I don't care for, but he's the only one that has ever, for me, detracted from a film due to RL crazies. I'm going to review WotW for the front page. My hate for Cruise also runs deep, so it might leak out in the review. Perhaps. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on June 28, 2005, 08:39:01 AM First they went after Zaphod Beeblebrox, now... They Come For YOU, Tom Cruise. (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/27/cruise.psychiatrists.reut/index.html)
"Hey, he's just this guy, you know?" Sorry just felt compelled to make two corny classic scifi references. :rock: Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on July 05, 2005, 07:50:21 AM War of the Worlds won't crack $200M at the domestic box office. I predict a sub-$80M 4th of july weekend take. What do I win? $113M and $77M, respectively. Oh and Katie Holmes was the worst part of Batman, probably the best movie I have seen (ex-LotR series) in three years. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: OcellotJenkins on July 06, 2005, 11:10:49 AM Gotta love the new urban dictionary image ... (http://www.urbandictionary.com/images.php?imageid=33549) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Abagadro on July 08, 2005, 09:48:42 PM This is going from sad to pathetic:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161963,00.html Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: TheWalrus on July 08, 2005, 11:04:08 PM I think it just keeps gettin sadder. If you want to be a crazy son of a bitch, fine and good, but don't drag down other people. Reading that interview makes me wonder if Scientology wasn't the base for RE4's religion.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Trippy on July 08, 2005, 11:30:32 PM I think it just keeps gettin sadder. If you want to be a crazy son of a bitch, fine and good, but don't drag down other people. Reading that interview makes me wonder if Scientology wasn't the base for RE4's religion. Tom Cruise apparently "auditioned" a number of young Hollywood starlets before finding one gulliable enough to accept Scientology. As much as it pains me to see him prey on somebody like Katie she's either as dumb as a rock or she's a willing participant in all this.Cruise Encounters of the Third kind (http://www.radaronline.com/fresh-intelligence/2005/06/17/index.php) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 11, 2005, 09:57:34 AM This is going from sad to pathetic: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161963,00.html From the article- Quote During the W interview, the actress wouldn't part from Jessica Rodriguez, who is described as her "Scientologist chaperone." Rodriguez's role in Holmes' life remains vague, though Rodriguez says they're "just best friends" since meeting around the time Holmes met Cruise. "You adore him," Rodriguez told Holmes when the actress was at a loss for words to describe her lov That is just fucking creepy. Someone needs to kidnap poor Katie and wean her off the Kool-Aid. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on July 12, 2005, 12:52:35 PM For once, the French don't surrender.
Quote Paris snubs Cruise (http://www.entertainment.news.com.au/story/0,10221,15912361-7485,00.html) July 12, 2005 From: Agence France-Presse IT seems Tom Cruise' wacky behaviour is turning off more than his fans - whole cities are now declaring him persona non grata. The Paris city hall has pledged "never to welcome" the actor to the city of love - all because of his membership of the Church of Scientology. In a debate late yesterday, the Socialist-controlled municipal assembly approved a resolution "never to welcome the actor Tom Cruise, spokesman for Scientology and self-declared militant for this organisation". Last month on a promotional tour for his film War of the Worlds, the 43-year-old star chose the Eiffel Tower to propose to girlfriend Katie Holmes. He was also made an honorary citizen of the southern French city of Marseille. Like many other European governments, the French authorities view Scientology - founded in the United States in 1954 by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard - as a dangerous cult. Cruise was described as a "sect-symbol" by a Socialist deputy. Meanwhile, Fox News in the US is reporting Cruise has more converts to add to his growing list of sign-ups - his own children with Nicole Kidman. Isabella, 12, and Connor, 10, live with the 43-year-old actor in Beverly Hills where they are being home-schooled by his Scientologist sisters, reports say. Bold mine. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on July 12, 2005, 12:59:01 PM Quote from: AZ Central Cruise's co-star Russell looking to convert? (http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/articles/0712russell.html) azcentral.com July 12, 2005 9:54 AM Could Keri Russell be the latest starlet to sign up for an E-meter? Radarlonline reports that the Felicity alumna, who recently won the coveted role of starring opposite Tom Cruise in M:I3, has been spotted buying books on Scientology, the controversial religion founded by Science Fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, and has even visited the sect's L.A. Celebrity Center. Sources told the magazine that Russell, who was once a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints, has "suddenly become very interested" in co-star Tom Cruise's other "mission," spreading the word on Scientology. Russell's publicist said she is "on hiatus" while her client is filming in Rome and could not comment on the item. If Russell falls under Scientolgy's spell, it will be due in large part to Cruise himself, as the religion's assist tents are available on all movie sets where he works. But the issue of the assist tents has two sides. "Paramount is terrified that it will be deluged with lawsuits from extras, caterers, and actors who will say that they were coerced into Scientology on the set," an insider told Radaronline. "Tom is not passive about having those tents set up. On the War of the Worlds set, he directed people to them and often asked them to talk out their issues in the Scientology tent." But Paramount reps as well as Cruise's publicist and sister, Lee Anne De Vette, say that there is no problem at all with Cruise or the Scientology volunteers. "Tom's been working with the studio for years and they have a great relationship. There's no friction. That's a crock of (expletive)," said De Vette. "Tom received a lot of letters from people who had assists thanking him, and there are a lot of people who didn't have them, too. If you don't want them, don't have them! It's like the coffee he brings onset. If you don't want coffee, don't have the coffee!" Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Pococurante on July 12, 2005, 01:02:36 PM Getting the blessing of the church does wonders for one's career. Vinnie Barbarino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_Back,_Kotter) - I rest my case.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on July 12, 2005, 04:09:09 PM Quote from: Contact Music THOMAS SLAMS REPORTS HE SEDUCED CRUISE (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/thomas%20slams%20reports%20he%20seduced%20cruise) MATCHBOX 20 frontman ROB THOMAS has rubbished reports he had sex with Hollywood superstar TOM CRUISE - and is even more mortified he's been labelled a fellow Scientologist. The SOMETHING TO BE singer is horrified by claims he was caught in bed with the WAR OF THE WORLDS star and has finally spoken out to end the rumours. But he's even more offended by reports he's joined Cruise and other followers of L RON HUBBARD's Church Of Scientology, which has been labelled a "cult" by some critics. He says, "If I were gay, Tom wouldn't be on the top of my list...It would be BRAD PITT. "I'm more offended by the rumours saying I'm Scientologist." 12/07/2005 05:30 Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 12, 2005, 04:11:10 PM Quote "I'm more offended by the rumours saying I'm Scientologist." Rob Thomas is my Hero Of The Day. Tomorrow he will revert back to being a douchebaggy lacktalent. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on July 13, 2005, 08:43:28 AM Which is still better than being a Scientologist.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on July 13, 2005, 09:22:35 AM Being Serek Dmart is better than being a scientologist.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on July 13, 2005, 09:24:02 AM Being Serek Dmart is better than being a scientologist. How do we know Serek Dmart isn't a Scientologist? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 13, 2005, 09:24:58 AM It is the kind of thing that obviously attracts egomaniacal douchebags, so there is a decent chance.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on July 13, 2005, 09:27:02 AM As designer of a game about space cowboys, I'm sure he's slain all his body Thetans.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: stray on July 13, 2005, 09:27:58 AM I'm tempted to email him about it now...
EDIT: On second thought: No, I'm not. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on July 15, 2005, 05:35:18 PM The head crazy. (http://slate.msn.com/id/2122835)
Quote Hubbard's version is understandably preferable to the reality, which was a dark farce. Hubbard was born in 1911 in Tilden, Neb. After flunking out of George Washington University, he became a pulp science-fiction and adventure writer. In the mid-1940s, he fell in with John Parsons, a wealthy and brilliant young rocket scientist in California, who also happened to be under the tutelage of the infamous satanist Aleister Crowley (no relation to yours truly, thankfully). According to Russell Miller's damning biography of Hubbard, Bare-Faced Messiah, Parsons was a science-fiction fan who briefly hosted Hubbard at his Pasadena, Calif., mansion, which featured a domed backyard temple and a rotating cast of occultists and eccentrics. Parsons described Hubbard as his "magical partner," and together the men engaged in a rite in which Parsons tried to impregnate with an antichrist child a woman he considered the whore of Babylon, a goal that Crowley had long promoted. With Rachmaninoff's "Isle of the Dead" playing in the background, Hubbard allegedly chanted spells over the copulating couple, according to Miller and others. (Ultimately Hubbard would steal Parsons' girlfriend and allegedly bilk him in a Miami yacht venture.) Years later, when Hubbard had grown famous and realized the antichrist episode didn't comport with his image as a man of culture and wisdom, he would reportedly claim to have been working on an undercover mission for U.S. Naval Intelligence to investigate black magic. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 16, 2005, 01:09:51 PM Quote Years later, when Hubbard had grown famous and realized the antichrist episode didn't comport with his image as a man of culture and wisdom, he would reportedly claim to have been working on an undercover mission for U.S. Naval Intelligence to investigate black magic. So THAT is how they got sonar to work! Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Furiously on July 18, 2005, 03:23:21 PM I'm still trying to boggle why someone would consider impregnating someone with the anti-christ a good idea....
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: TheWalrus on July 18, 2005, 06:13:17 PM Cheap thrills. Maybe she was hot.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on July 19, 2005, 08:45:46 AM I'm still trying to boggle why someone would consider impregnating someone with the anti-christ a good idea.... Hey, Satan's just trying to get rid of his own body Thetans. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on July 27, 2005, 12:58:29 PM (http://bestweekever.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/tomcruise.jpg)
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on July 27, 2005, 02:48:15 PM I am frightened. Someone hold me.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on July 27, 2005, 02:49:21 PM Yeah, actually, that's a scary as fuck photoshop.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Yegolev on July 27, 2005, 05:51:35 PM At first I thought "hey, she's looking better", but then the horror sank in.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Velorath on July 27, 2005, 07:38:47 PM From IMDB (http://imdb.com/news/wenn/2005-07-26/#celeb3)
Quote Scientology Not To Blame for Holmes "Sores" The controversial Church of Scientology has slammed reports one its rituals was responsible for the sores on Katie Holmes' mouth in May. Only a week after Tom Cruise and Holmes confirmed they had been dating for "a couple of weeks" in late April, the former Dawson's Creek star was photographed with several cold sores and a red rash around her mouth. While most critics believed Holmes had acquired the sores from her public kissing sessions with Cruise, several gossip columnists claimed the 26-year-old actress developed the sores after enduring a Scientology process, known as purification. Holmes has been studying the religion since she began dating her now-fiance Cruise. The alleged client of the purification is given vitamin B3 (niacin), which helps to decrease cholesterol and boost circulation. However, a spokesman for the church says, "Whatever is on Katie's face has nothing to do with us. It's insulting that you would ask such a thing." Damn, I was almost tempted to join the Church of Scientology so I could start "purifying" young women. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on July 28, 2005, 05:31:31 AM "Whatever is on Katies face has nothing to do with us."
Comedy Gold right there. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on July 28, 2005, 09:00:44 AM "Whatever is on Katies face has nothing to do with us." Comedy Gold right there. I was just thinking that myself. Obviously Tom isn't in favor of the money shot, then. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: CmdrSlack on August 13, 2005, 07:47:49 PM Saw a video blurb on CNN.com about this place (http://www.delphianschool.com/). I tried to grab the link to the CNN.com video piece as well, but for some reason my link copying skills are weak.
A K thru 12 school for scientologist kids! Let's get to 'em early! Shudder. (http://www.delphianschool.com/ourphilosophy-individualprogramming.html) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: ahoythematey on August 14, 2005, 08:13:23 AM How appropriate that they call it "programming".
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Llava on August 14, 2005, 12:01:11 PM That is actually quite frightening. Wicca is a fad, it will fade. Satanism was a fad, it faded. Scientology, though... there's a lot of support. They're running it like a clever business. I'm not so sure this will fade- they're thinking ahead and brainwashing the next generation. Can only hope this kids rebel against their parents and go Jewish or something.
God. What if this became a major religion? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on August 14, 2005, 04:30:39 PM God. What if this became a major religion? You'd see me on the news saying I possessed 1,000 years of power. And the heads of my many victims will be my throne. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Sky on August 15, 2005, 10:17:38 AM Woops, I meant to post that bit about L. Ron in this thread. I dig his only entry in the Oxford Book of Quotations, that should be taught, too, right?
"If you really want to make a million, the quickest way is to start your own religion" - L Ron Hubbard. I had to look it up to verify after reading that in Dawkin's Unweaving the Rainbow. Quite an interesting quote to be known for, eh? Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Merusk on August 15, 2005, 03:53:04 PM Woops, I meant to post that bit about L. Ron in this thread. I dig his only entry in the Oxford Book of Quotations, that should be taught, too, right? "If you really want to make a million, the quickest way is to start your own religion" - L Ron Hubbard. I had to look it up to verify after reading that in Dawkin's Unweaving the Rainbow. Quite an interesting quote to be known for, eh? I'd heard Scientology was started by Hubbard just to settle a bet that he could start a religion centered around people sending him money, so the quote would fit that story. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: CmdrSlack on August 15, 2005, 09:31:20 PM Woops, I meant to post that bit about L. Ron in this thread. I dig his only entry in the Oxford Book of Quotations, that should be taught, too, right? "If you really want to make a million, the quickest way is to start your own religion" - L Ron Hubbard. I had to look it up to verify after reading that in Dawkin's Unweaving the Rainbow. Quite an interesting quote to be known for, eh? I'd heard Scientology was started by Hubbard just to settle a bet that he could start a religion centered around people sending him money, so the quote would fit that story. IIRC, it was a bet he made with Robert Anton Wilson.....but I could be wrong. I believe his competitor church when he started the whole thing was supposed to be something along the lines of the Subgenius. I could be 110% wrong on that, but I could have sworn I saw something to that effect. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on August 15, 2005, 11:36:55 PM Quote Church of Critical Thinking (http://www.churchofcriticalthinking.com/archives/000040tom_cruise_makes_me_.html) "Question: Can anybody definitively prove or disprove the rumor that Scientology was started from a bar bet between L. Ron Hubbard and another Sci-Fi writer (rumored to be I. Asimov) that went something like, "I'll bet you I can start my own religion?" " The short answer is 'no', although Hubbard made the comment about getting-rich-quick-by-starting-a-religion multiple times in public. The notion that it was a bet *seems* to be an urban legend, but his repeated comments about it certainly qualify as a smoking gun. Quote mb-soft.com (http://mb-soft.com/believe/txo/scientol.htm) Allegedly, L. Ron Hubbard, a former therapist, and Arthur C. Clarke, the noted author, were friends, and Hubbard bet Clarke that he could start a new religion. The anecdote concludes with him creating Scientology as a result. Again, we have not found specific evidence either supporting or denying that story. Quote Everything2.com (http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=41435) Ellison is also a fringe part of another legend that L. Ron Hubbard bet Robert Heinlein that he could invent his own religion and make a million dollars. While it's not hard to believe Hubbard making such a boast, Scientology has bent over backwards to put this story to rest. Scientology's stand is there is no evidence Hubbard made such a boast, that there were no witnesses, so it's ultimately a highly libelous statement. See you in court. Many people claim there was at least one witness. Isaac Asimov was present during the exchange. It's also alleged Ellison was a witness to the bet as well. Ellison claimed as much in an interview for a '70s satirical magazine called "Wings". The interview has been reproduced online although who knows if this is itself is a true transcript: Quote Ellison: Scientology is bullshit! Man, I was there the night L. Ron Hubbard invented it, for Christ Sakes! I was sitting in a room with L. Ron Hubbard and a bunch of other science fiction writers. L. Ron Hubbard was famous among science fiction writers because he was the first one to have an electric typewriter. Wings: He claimed to have written Dianetics in a weekend, and nobody can deny it. Ellison: That's true. He wrote Dianetics in one weekend, and you know how he used to write? He used to take a roll of white paper, like paper you wrap fish in. He had it on the wall, and he would roll it into the typewriter and he would begin typing. When he was done, he would tear it off and leave it as one whole long novel. We were sitting around one night... who else was there? Alfred Bester, and Cyril Kornbluth, and Lester Del Rey, and Ron Hubbard, who was making a penny a word, and had been for years. And he said "This bullshit's got to stop!" He says, "I gotta get money." He says, "I want to get rich". Wings: He is also supposed to have said on that same night: "The question is not how to make a million dollars, but how to keep it." Ellison: Right. And somebody said, "why don't you invent a new religion? They're always big." We were clowning! You know, "Become Elmer Gantry! You'll make a fortune!" He says, "I'm going to do it." Sat down, stole a little bit from Freud, stole a little bit from Jung, a little bit from Alder, a little bit of encounter therapy, pre-Janov Primal Screaming, took all that bullshit, threw it all together, invented a few new words, because he was a science fiction writer, you know, "engrams" and "regression", all that bullshit. And then he conned John Campbell, who was crazy as a thousand battlefields. I mean, he believed any goddamned thing. He really believed blacks were inferior. I mean he really believed that. He was also very nervous when I was in his office because I was a Jew. You know, he was afraid maybe I would spring horns or something. Anyhow, the way he conned John was that he had J. A. Winter, who was a doctor, who was a close friend of John's, and he got him to run this article on Dianetics, the new science of mental health. Assuming Ellison wasn't trying to pull a fast one (it was a satirical magazine), his story is problematic because he was 14 years old at the time. Would a 14 year old unproven kid be hanging around with such sci fi greats? I have no idea where you got the whole Subgenius angle as I have never encountered anything remotely resembling that. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Sky on August 16, 2005, 06:42:00 AM Quote IIRC, it was a bet he made with Robert Anton Wilson.....but I could be wrong. Heh, that would be funny if true. I read Wilson's stuff during my acid phase in the 80s.Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: CmdrSlack on August 16, 2005, 07:27:21 AM Quote I have no idea where you got the whole Subgenius angle as I have never encountered anything remotely resembling that. Fnord. Yeah, I dunno, I'm guessing whomever I heard that from was going with the "fake religions that ask for your money angle." Like I said, my comment was most likely 110% wrong, but I have heard the bar bet thing before. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: AOFanboi on August 16, 2005, 09:16:01 AM I read the Heinlein variant story as well, except there was a "counterbet" about whether people would believe the philosophy in Callanetics (Hubbard) or Stranger in a Strange Land (Heinlein).
The most likely theory is still that it was set up as a tax-dodge shelter, though. To put it bluntly, Hubbard was less successful as a writer than either Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke and many of the others associated with the genre. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on August 17, 2005, 11:47:07 AM That article makes me remember just how much of a douchebag Harlan Ellison really is.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on August 17, 2005, 11:49:00 AM That article makes me remember just how much of a douchebag Harlan Ellison really is. But he's so cute in this picture! (http://harlanellison.com/review/covers/cvforever.jpg) Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on August 17, 2005, 12:03:57 PM He's like an angry dwarf without the beard. Or the charm.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on August 18, 2005, 11:06:07 AM That looks like the promo poster for The 40-year Old Virgin.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Yegolev on August 18, 2005, 09:22:44 PM Groped by Shatner? Score.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on August 19, 2005, 09:54:34 AM Yeah, but where's Nimoi's hand? Score +1.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on August 25, 2005, 05:23:51 PM You don't know the history of the yellow brick road. Tom does. (http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/tom-cruise/index.php#tom-cruise-and-the-yellow-brick-road-122390)
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Trippy on August 25, 2005, 09:49:26 PM You don't know the history of the yellow brick road. Tom does. (http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/tom-cruise/index.php#tom-cruise-and-the-yellow-brick-road-122390) He looked good as Dorothy just like he looked better with Katie's haircut than his own.Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on August 26, 2005, 11:22:31 AM Every day this thread gets bumped is just sweet sweet sunshine to me.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on September 08, 2005, 02:27:50 PM Quote from: The Sun Katie to be Mrs Cruise? (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004580002-2005410689,00.html) By SIMON THOMPSON Sun Online STUNNING actress Katie Holmes is planning to do what neither of Tom Cruise's past two wives did - take his name. Former partners Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman kept their own surnames after marrying the Mission Impossible star. But according to reports in America, the change is something old-fashioned Holmes has always been keen on. An insider told US based In Touch Magazine she may also be changing her first name, saying: "Tom calls her Kate, so he suggested she start going by that professionally." The couple are expected to tie the knot this year.. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 08, 2005, 02:41:06 PM Stunningly ugly, they mean?
Katie Holmes = yuck. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on September 08, 2005, 05:59:59 PM Stunningly ugly, they mean? Katie Holmes = yuck. Your opinion on women doesn't matter. At all. Whether you're wrong or right. That said - Katie Cruise? Alliteration still sucks. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 08, 2005, 06:01:24 PM Your opinion on women doesn't matter. At all. Whether you're wrong or right. Hey, it's not my fault that you're not picky. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on September 08, 2005, 06:02:39 PM Your opinion on women doesn't matter. At all. Whether you're wrong or right. Hey, it's not my fault that you're not picky. You need to learn when not to respond. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 08, 2005, 06:06:08 PM If you don't want it, don't open it.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: schild on September 08, 2005, 06:14:21 PM If you don't want it, don't open it. I'm ornery and without sleep at the moment, but I'm not too tired to break Pandora's foot off in your ass. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 08, 2005, 06:22:29 PM I'm ornery and without sleep at the moment, but I'm not too tired to break Pandora's foot off in your ass. :crying_panda: Come on, you can do better than that. This is besides the point that this subject has been done into the ground already. :dead_horse: Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Furiously on September 09, 2005, 10:00:10 AM I'd like to negotiate a settlement here.
Schild will you agree not to point out how Strazos has no taste in women, if Strazos agrees not to say "meh" or other comments about females. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 09, 2005, 01:36:56 PM I'd like to negotiate a settlement here. Schild will you agree not to point out how Strazos has no taste in women Heh, nice try, but I see no evidence for this statement. Oh, the taste is there....it's just particularly narrow. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Furiously on September 09, 2005, 01:52:15 PM No - you see - you cannot comment, you must remain mute on this matter if you want to escape the teasing.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 09, 2005, 01:55:44 PM No comment = Admission of Guilt, which isn't something I do generally.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Furiously on September 09, 2005, 01:57:34 PM You see that hole you are digging? It's getting bigger.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 09, 2005, 02:14:38 PM Do you think I can get to China with it?
There was a trip I was going to go on with my school if I hadn't gone to Rome. Or Greece. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Furiously on September 09, 2005, 02:30:55 PM I think the only place that hole goes is San Fransico...
Could do what a friend of mine did, take your tuition, I bet you could last 3 or 4 months..http://www.asiandiaries.com/ Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 09, 2005, 02:48:11 PM San Fran is nice, but I haven't been there in about 16 years.
I'd LIKE to go to China or Greece this summer....but travelling alone would be lame. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Furiously on September 09, 2005, 02:49:48 PM Actually - it would be an adventure in the truest sense.
Getting over eating alone is the hardest part. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 09, 2005, 03:06:59 PM Getting over eating alone is the hardest part. Either that, or trying to communicate in a language you don't know, alone. Also, I forgot Prague. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on September 09, 2005, 03:30:49 PM Hairy european women will take pity on you if you're alone and having trouble communicating.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on September 09, 2005, 03:34:02 PM Hairy european women will take Money off you if you're alone and having trouble communicating. Or at least that's my experience. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 09, 2005, 03:48:07 PM Until they fleece me for everything of worth that I have, anyway.
Hairy = Teh Lose. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on September 12, 2005, 11:52:29 AM Until they fleece me for everything of worth that I have, anyway. You act like that's a quality unique to Hairy Euro women. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Strazos on September 12, 2005, 02:36:07 PM Heh.
That is all. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Margalis on September 13, 2005, 12:52:03 AM Katie Holmes is not stunning. She has not aged well. She has bug eyes, a big forehead, and looks like a goonish oversized 11 year old. She hasn't transitioned to woman at all, and probably is never going to.
Nicole Kidman is much better looking, and doesn't seem like a total idiot. Katie Holmes doesn't look any different from girls I see at the mall every day. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on September 13, 2005, 09:19:15 AM Diane Lane IMO is one actress who has aged the best in recent memory.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Nebu on September 13, 2005, 09:26:26 AM She's marrying Tom Cruise. You know... the guy that has proven you can say the dumbest shit in the world and still have women fawning all over you.
Having said that, Katie Holmes has the facial assymetry of a Picasso. Reminds me of Maria Shriver to a degree. Neither of which could I consider even remotely attractive. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on September 13, 2005, 09:27:41 AM Diane Lane IMO is one actress who has aged the best in recent memory. HAWT. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on September 13, 2005, 09:29:45 AM Diane Lane IMO is one actress who has aged the best in recent memory. HAWT. Go rent Knight Moves (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0104627/). You can thank me later. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on September 13, 2005, 09:34:30 AM Diane Lane IMO is one actress who has aged the best in recent memory. HAWT. Go rent Knight Moves (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0104627/). You can thank me later. I am not sure I can do that- I haven't rented a movie in about 5 years, and I am pretty sure I don't want to start with one that has Christopher Lambert prominently involved (other than Highlander, of course). Mayhap I will do some <ahem> research when I get home. Although it might be considered bad taste by some to spend my anniversary searching the Internet for pr0n. Prudes. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on September 13, 2005, 10:08:49 AM Why rent and sit through a horrible movie just to see Diane Lane nekkid when pr0n is probably flooding your inbox? Besdies, she was also naked in Unfaithful and that movie was good.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on September 13, 2005, 10:14:54 AM Why rent and sit through a horrible movie just to see Diane Lane nekkid when pr0n is probably flooding your inbox? Besdies, she was also naked in Unfaithful and that movie was good. Look, cunt, Knight Moves was a decent movie. It had a Baldwin in it. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on September 13, 2005, 10:27:43 AM No word makes me grin like the c-word.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Yegolev on September 13, 2005, 11:07:14 AM Christopher "Rayden = Mel Brooks" Lambert and a_baldwin0035? Pass.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on September 13, 2005, 11:10:16 AM The Baldwin dies, if that helps.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Yegolev on September 13, 2005, 11:12:29 AM It did help when a Baldwin got a cig in the eye in The Usual Suspects. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Furiously on September 13, 2005, 11:19:13 AM Diane Lane is stunning. I think it's her smile.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on October 05, 2005, 02:27:17 PM Say hello to baby Xenu!
Quote from: AP Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes expecting (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9601238/) The couple has been dating since mid-April of this year Chris Pizzello / AP file NEW YORK - Let the couch-jumping begin: Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes are expecting a baby. Holmes’ pregnancy was reported Wednesday by People magazine. The couple have been dating since April and became engaged in June. “Tom and Katie are very excited, and the entire family is very excited,” Lee Anne DeVette, Cruise’s spokeswoman, told People. It would be Holmes’ first child. Cruise has two children, Connor, 10, and Isabella, 12, from his marriage to Nicole Kidman. No further details were available. DeVette added that Holmes, 26, “has never felt better.” Cruise, 43, is now shooting “Mission” Impossible 3.” See, people, in vitro fertilization works. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on October 05, 2005, 02:30:16 PM I can't remember when such a hottie has gotten so unappealing so quickly. It took Linsday Lohan months and months of starvation and cocaine. Tara Reid took years to drink herself into a pathetic former hottie. All Katie had to do was hook up with the uber-Scientologist and carry his mutant seed.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: HaemishM on October 05, 2005, 03:02:41 PM I wonder if Katie will take post-partum drugs.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on October 05, 2005, 03:10:27 PM I wonder if Katie will take post-partum drugs. I doubt it as long as she gets her regular doses of Thetan. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on October 05, 2005, 04:54:57 PM Wouldn't it be even funnier, though, if she didn't take meds and instead drowned her satan-spawn?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on October 05, 2005, 05:02:01 PM Wouldn't it be even funnier, though, if she didn't take meds and instead drowned her satan-spawn? It'll end up being a dwarf with hammer toes. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on October 05, 2005, 05:07:11 PM When I read that I immediately thought of Strazos' avatar, but with a deformed baby instead of iPod guy.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 06, 2005, 12:40:47 AM Serious question, who is the father?
I was under the impression that Tom is sterile and cannot procreate. I thought that was why he and Nicole adopted kids rather than father their own. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on October 06, 2005, 01:07:09 AM Serious question, who is the father? I was under the impression that Tom is sterile and cannot procreate. I thought that was why he and Nicole adopted kids rather than father their own. You don't understand Tom's Sperm count. He does. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: penfold on October 06, 2005, 01:56:36 AM Serious question, who is the father? I was under the impression that Tom is sterile and cannot procreate. I thought that was why he and Nicole adopted kids rather than father their own. I was under the impressions Tom's sperm was being wasted up men's bottoms, rather than heading towards ovaries, fallopian tubes n the like. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Soln on October 06, 2005, 06:13:58 AM do we know if it's not a clone?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Nevermore on October 06, 2005, 09:40:10 AM It's a giant Thetan.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: AOFanboi on October 10, 2005, 11:22:44 AM Mor' assimilashun into the fold (http://uk.imdb.com/news/wenn/2005-10-10/#2).
Quote Pregnant actress Katie Holmes has fired her publicist Leslie Sloane-Zelnick after nine years together, and has hired her fiance Tom Cruise's sister as her new spokesperson. How fricking hard is it for those airheads with a 90210 zip code to realize that the CoS is nothing more than a tax shelter set up by a madman fighting professionals who told him how mad he was?Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Murgos on October 11, 2005, 06:32:22 AM If it was just a tax dodge I don't think anyone would have a problem with it...
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on October 11, 2005, 08:11:26 AM Apart from the IRS. Obviously.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Paelos on October 11, 2005, 10:42:37 PM Apart from the IRS. Obviously. Yeah and popular support for fucking the IRS is minimal. :evil: Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Soln on October 12, 2005, 06:46:52 AM How old was Nicole? As someone starting to think about this, there is a concern for woman over 30/35 with pregnancy, no?
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on October 12, 2005, 07:58:22 AM There is some concern over 35 for a woman, but recent research has shown that there's just as much if not more concern for older fathers as well. Children have a higher risk for birth defects from older fathers than older mothers.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Merusk on October 12, 2005, 03:00:55 PM Really? That's a new one to me. I'd always heard the woman was of more concern because the eggs are as old as a woman, while a man keeps absorbing and reproducing new sperm.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Shockeye on October 12, 2005, 05:18:40 PM Really? That's a new one to me. I'd always heard the woman was of more concern because the eggs are as old as a woman, while a man keeps absorbing and reproducing new sperm. But as the man ages the sperm he produces can have chromosomal breaks. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Ironwood on October 13, 2005, 02:38:58 AM Well, we've all got to take a rest sometime, even chromosomes.
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: shiznitz on October 13, 2005, 08:12:57 AM I wish us men would just hit a wall at which our sperm are 100% ineffective with 100% reliability. Then I could skip this whole vasectomy thing next year. Three kids = done!
/shiver Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Nevermore on October 13, 2005, 09:00:07 AM What, only three? (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Sixteen%20Kids)
Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: WayAbvPar on October 13, 2005, 09:48:04 AM What, only three? (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Sixteen%20Kids) Yeah, that is just crazy. Do you really need 16 fucking kids? How do you even care for that many? How about spending quality time alone with every one? That is just crazy. I am secretly wondering if the parents are related. The father's name IS Jim-Bob... Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Merusk on October 13, 2005, 01:08:09 PM I went to school and later worked with a guy who wanted 10 kids. His wife agreed with him and last time I saw him they were working on #5. That was almost 3 years ago now, so if everything's on track they're closing in on 8 right now.
They were both very devout Mormons, though, so that explains a bit of it. Why on earth he went into Architecture with plans on supporting a family that large is beyond me, however. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: voodoolily on October 13, 2005, 01:09:13 PM Why on earth he went into Architecture with plans on supporting a family that large is beyond me, however. Well if it was good enough for Mike Brady it's good enough for him. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: RhyssaFireheart on October 14, 2005, 09:28:27 PM Quote each child has a name beginning with the letter "J": Joshua, 17; John David, 15; Janna, 15; Jill, 14; Jessa, 12; Jinger, 11; Joseph, 10; Josiah, 9; Joy-Anna, 8; Jeremiah, 6; Jedidiah, 6; Jason, 5; James, 4; Justin, 2; Jackson Levi, 1; and now Johannah. *gag* Two of my brothers were friends with a family that did that same thing, ironically with "J" names as well. Couple of the boys had nicknames that didn't start with "J" though, don't blame them. And that mom needs some help, IMO. Although, to be really crude, she's either stretched out to high heaven or someone does their Kegle (sp?) exercises every 5 minutes. I didn't know about older fathers having a higher risk of birth defects. I knew that a woman having her first child over the age of 30 could have more problems, and then the older you get it's riskier. I can't imagine wanting to have a kid over 40 in the first place. You're settled into your routine, why mess things up with a kid? Besides the fact that by the time the rugrat is 20 and solidly in college, you are going to be retired and look like the grandparent instead of the parent. Ick. Title: Re: Chalk up another one for Scientology. Post by: Abagadro on October 15, 2005, 04:01:27 PM I thought families with eleventybillion kids with names all starting with one letter was exclusively a Utah phenomenon.
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