Bethesda gets Fallout

[rk47]

which, the isometric argument?
I'd like my RPG to be first person. I realize FP views give me a better atmosphere overal, in terms of surpise and not knowing what lies in the next cornerl. I won't be asking for a classic fallout perspective in game, it has a cross hair in the middle, it should be FP, putting third person view is okay, but just for the sake of stroking my E-Peen while I'm wearing a dusty power armour and standing over a dead mutant.

[NiX]

Isn't that pretty much the M.O. of every thread here if not on the entire intartubes?

I've found quite a few constructive arguments that lead to people actually gaining knowledge. But this one seemed to just revolve around 2 people arguing what isometric is while others try to add their opinion and being ignored in doing so.

Have they posted anything recent about the game? I only remember the trailer and with E3 having just passed maybe I missed some screenshots.

[CmdrSlack]

Isn't that pretty much the M.O. of every thread here if not on the entire intartubes?

I've found quite a few constructive arguments that lead to people actually gaining knowledge. But this one seemed to just revolve around 2 people arguing what isometric is while others try to add their opinion and being ignored in doing so.

Have they posted anything recent about the game? I only remember the trailer and with E3 having just passed maybe I missed some screenshots.

My failure to use green has caused you to fall into the chasm of sar. Sorry for that. But nope, I've not seen anything recent about the game and I'm chomping at the bit for it now that I've finished Fallout Tactics. Guess it's time to run through Fallout 2 again.

[Sky]

Have they posted anything recent about the game? I only remember the trailer and with E3 having just passed maybe I missed some screenshots.

There was some stuff in a recent Game Informer. A coworker's son has a sub and she's bringing them in when he's done. Nothing earth-shattering, and it is print...we've probably seen all those screen already though it's a decent read anyway.

You spend the beginning of the game in the vault, growing up as a tutorial. Character gen is your father holding you up, he's masked at the time. After you pick your physical appearance, he appears unmasked as a modified and aged version of you. Pretty nifty, though he'll sound like Liam Neeson no matter what he looks like (I hope it's not shades of Picard in Oblivion or Spock in Civ4). Learning to walk is the movement tutorial, etc.

I always like the turn-based aspect of combat, but I guess I'll give the new way a shot. Sounds way more fps, though. Guess I'll be sinking a ton of points into agility to get more targeted shots...

[Furiously]

Man, Liam Nesson playing a mentor/father figure is so out of character for him. Wonder if he can stretch himself that much.

[Ironwood]

The man's an absolute Lion of an actor.

[Yegolev]

I like first-person RPGs a lot, but I am quite afeared of them turning out as a FPS with levels.

[sinij]

Isn't that pretty much the M.O. of every thread here if not on the entire intartubes?

Intratubes

[Big Gulp]

(I hope it's not shades of Picard in Oblivion or Spock in Civ4)

Leonard Nimoy was absolutely perfect in Civ4.  "You know her life was saved by rock 'n' roll".  Hearing Spock recite Lou Reed kicks a whole lot of ass, my friend.

[CmdrSlack]

(I hope it's not shades of Picard in Oblivion or Spock in Civ4)

Leonard Nimoy was absolutely perfect in Civ4.  "You know her life was saved by rock 'n' roll".  Hearing Spock recite Lou Reed kicks a whole lot of ass, my friend.

Wow, I may have to get Civ 4 just to hear that. Either that, or I'm going to need to brush up my advanced search element use in Google so's I can find a sound file of that.

[Samprimary]

Isn't that pretty much the M.O. of every thread here if not on the entire intartubes?

it depends on how many feud-seeking personalities are attending the thread.

[Sky]

Leonard Nimoy was absolutely perfect in Civ4.

I'll give you the factor of reciting Lou Reed. But it was a wooden and shitty performance given across the entire spectrum, I could just picture the guy looking at the clock as he read through each line. He was beaten to a bloody pulp by the VOs in Alpha Centauri.

[Amaron]

Amusingly I was looking for a good faq on crits in fallout 1 (which I'm replaying currently) and I found this article.  Forgive me for not reading all 13 pages to see if this info already got listed but here it is:

http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=898

It gives a pretty good description of the vault assist targeting system that actually made me feel a bit less jaded about the whole "real time" thing.  I was reminded of the time back before Baldur's Gate where I was really angry about it being real time.   When the game finally came out my perspective obviously changed.  So at least for now I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on that part.

The one thing that really worried me in this article though was this:

Believe me, hearing him talk about it you can seriously tell that the man has a passion for the franchise. Howard repeatedly stressed that the primary influence for their creative efforts on the game is the original Fallout game, not so much the sequel, and certainly not Brotherhood of Steel or Tactics.

That little "not so much the sequel" bit really worries me.  The sequel was superior in a great many ways.  Given Bethesda's love for sandboxing I start to wonder if these guys "love" fallout for all the wrong reasons.  The original was probably far more open ended in a sandbox fashion so that's the only reason I can think of that they'd prefer the first one over the sequel.

I dread more and more that Fallout 3 is going to emphasize a sandbox and have a craptastic narrative as a result.

[Miasma]

I have lowered my expectations so that I am only looking forward to a futuristic Morrowind/Oblivion, if they manage to pull off a Fallout game instead then all the better.

[Miasma]

Four pages of quotes from completely out of touch fanbois.  Warning, nerd rage.

I actually slapped my girlfriend(hard) when she asked me "what's the big deal about Fallout".  Needless to say, she is no longer my girlfriend.  I'm sorry, but she should have known better by now.

Chances of him not actually having a girlfriend and just making it up - 100%.

[UnSub]

Four pages of quotes from completely out of touch fanbois.  Warning, nerd rage.

I actually slapped my girlfriend(hard) when she asked me "what's the big deal about Fallout".  Needless to say, she is no longer my girlfriend.  I'm sorry, but she should have known better by now.

Chances of him not actually having a girlfriend and just making it up - 100%.

By 'girlfriend', he meant 'security towel he sleeps with'.

[Nevermore]

He broke his Realdoll.

[WindupAtheist]

That SA link was fun.  It's full of just the sort of "If the combat isn't a shitty-looking anachronism tracing it's roots back to tabletop games from thirty years ago then it's not real RPG gameplay!" bullshit I love to hate.

[rk47]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KhM3jVehVo

I never seen this before. 

[WindupAtheist]

[stu]

How much extra are you willing to pay for the lunchbox?

[Big Gulp]

I've never bought a collector's edition of anything before.  But this?  This will be bought.

[lesion]

CE for sure, but I think I'm going to pass on the over-priced clock.

[CmdrSlack]

Oh, I'm so totally getting that. This is the best necropost I've seen in a long time.

[schild]

I fear it's going to be a plastic piece of shit and I buy almost any LTD edition. CE for me. I just want the lunchbox.

[stu]

The lunchbox makes me want to bring my lunch to work more often. $120 though? Eeek. Even my coffee table concept art book fetish won't allow me to shell out that much. Or maybe it will. Oh man, I'm confused.

[schild]

The lunchbox makes me want to bring my lunch to work more often. $120 though? Eeek. Even my coffee table concept art book fetish won't allow me to shell out that much. Or maybe it will. Oh man, I'm confused.

The $79 version that you can preorder at regular stores comes with the lunchbox. You're paying $40 for what will likely be a plastic ugly clock on this Amazon version.

[rk47]

you can wear it as a bracer. In-Game Pipboy replica. 

[Zetleft]

I may have to buy the collectors edition it seems.   And damn you all but I'm so finding my Fallout 2 disks now. 

Played through the original Fallout going fists only.  I'm sure I brought out a rifle a few times but not many.  I forget what perks I had but I know one was Bloody Mess.  It never got old punching someone and having their ribcage explode EVER!  By the end of the game that boss never had a chance against my fists of fury.  The one mistake I did on my first playthrough of the original was that I accidentally got into a fight and basically killed a bunch of people at the junkyard and never got dogmeat. 

As far as fallout 2, hell what other game has you arm wrestle a mutant and become his sex doll if you lose.... damn you ball and gag. 

[rk47]

i think unarmed is pretty overpowered early game Fallout 2, but random encounters with bad dudes with guns usually fuck me up. F2 really screwed the pooch for those who don't pick Outdoorsman as tag skill since late game randoms get more ridiculous and escaping isn't as easy as JRPGs.

[squirrel]

Damn. It. I must have that lunch box.

[Phred]

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Oh come on, that's just a touch revisionist. Black Isle Studios were a very successful company. They were bought by Interplay, who got rich off the Fallout and Baldur's Gate franchises

Heh. Talk about revisionism. Black Isle was an internal division created within Interplay.

Edit: I was going off memory but managed to dig up corroborating evidence on mobygames. http://www.mobygames.com/company/black-isle-studios

[schild]

Stonekeep II would've been interesting. I still have that terrible first one. With that ugly manilla book, Thera.

[Phred]

To which I'm sure the fanbois would cry :  Then make a game with that tech, but don't use the Fallout IP.

I remain neutral on the matter, but I suspect I'm going to be presented with a Turkey come release time.

Ya, kind of like Black Isle did when they wanted to do a spiritual successor to Wasteland.

[Sky]

IP is overrated. Mass Effect is much better for not being KotOR3 imo. Maybe a bad example due to Lucas the Hutt.