Rock Band

[Phildo]

I don't see why they would be compatable at all... they're by different companies.

[schild]

Guitar Hero controller works with Rock Band. Rock Band controller doesn't work with Guitar Hero. Though I would not be shocked if a patch fixes this.

The old 360 Guitar works with Guitar Hero 3. Those were by different companies.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

yeah but they were for the same franchise. NS would have shot themselves in the foot if they disallowed use of the GH2 guitars in GH3. That would be retarded.

[Samwise]

Aren't the guitar controllers just gamepads with a funny shape?  As long as they don't do something stupid like change the button mapping I don't see why they wouldn't all be compatible.

[Big Gulp]

Aren't the guitar controllers just gamepads with a funny shape?  As long as they don't do something stupid like change the button mapping I don't see why they wouldn't all be compatible.

Unless you went out of your way to make them incompatible.  Which Red Octane has an incentive to do, but Harmonix doesn't.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Rock Band guitar doesn't work in Guitar Hero.

[NiX]

I've been told by someone that developers that make their own hardware (can) assign IDs to the hardware which can determine if it works or not with other games. No idea if this is true or not.

[cmlancas]

That isn't really a new idea for the entertainment industry -- don't many HD-DVDs have coded dealies in them now that bar the upscaling unless you have some sort of decoder? I remember reading something about it a few months back.


This post kinda sucks. 

[Lantien]

Yeah, I'm bummed about all the probable lack of compatability between the two guitar games.

While I'm way more interested in Rock Band than Guitar Hero 3 at this point (I have people to play with locally), I would think that the Red Octate guitars will be a bit more reliable, since their experience with peripherals will give them an edge.

That being said, Harmonix has some pretty neat things in play with their guitar. There's a switch on their guitar that can provide one of five different effects when you engage Overdrive (Star Power) in Rock Band.  These effects are things like wah-wah. The guitar also looks... more like a guitar, which I think will appeal to people just getting into the genre.

[Bokonon]

Rockband's guitar is better than Guitar Hero's, at least in feel. Performance is comparable, although there is a little learning curve because of fret button spacing issues. But it just feels right in your hands. The drums are going to cause a mini-"Wii have a problem" effect with the kit falling into/onto small pets, childre, coffee tables.

Even at the tour event, they used a sandbag to keep the kit in place (which worked well).

What can I say about F13?  It's really my favorite website in the entire universe!  I love the irreverent banter and sly wit these keyboard jockeys produce.  And I especially love the staff, they're AWESOME.

[bhodi]

yeah but they were for the same franchise. NS would have shot themselves in the foot if they disallowed use of the GH2 guitars in GH3. That would be retarded.

You know what does suck? I can't put my GH2 in PS3 and have the GH3 guitar work with it. I want to throw away my ps2 already, but they simply won't let me!

[Bokonon]

Rockband's guitar is better than Guitar Hero's, at least in feel. Performance is comparable, although there is a little learning curve because of fret button spacing issues. But it just feels right in your hands. The drums are going to cause a mini-"Wii have a problem" effect with the kit falling into/onto small pets, childre, coffee tables.

Even at the tour event, they used a sandbag to keep the kit in place (which worked well).

What can I say about F13?  It's really my favorite website in the entire universe!  I love the irreverent banter and sly wit these keyboard jockeys produce.  And I especially love the staff, they're AWESOME.

That's a nifty stealth edit..? I didn't write the last section, though it may or may not be true.

What can I say about F13?  It's really my favorite website in the entire universe!  I love the irreverent banter and sly wit these keyboard jockeys produce.  And I especially love the staff, they're AWESOME.

[Samwise]

 

[Bokonon]

Yeah, yeah. Figured it out. Oh the f13 crew and their passive-aggressive shenanigans!

 

[schild]

What can I say.

f13.net: We're pretty awesome.

[Lantien]

Annnnnnnnnd it's now gone gold.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/puzzle/rockband/news.html?sid=6182315&om_act=convert&om_clk=gsupdates&tag=updates;title;1   

The more I read about the reviews from people who are new to the whole Guitar Hero/Rock Band scene, the more excited I get about the game. While I think the game won't test people on the guitar side as much as Guitar Hero 3 did, the whole social scene of getting a bunch of people together to rock out could lead to some really amazing fun. I think on the flip side, people who plan to only play the game single player will be horribly dissapointed.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/11/gamelife-rock-b.html

Shelby (7:54 PM): Guitar Hero is dead. 

Kinda bummed with the current list of released bonus songs; was hoping for songs with a bit more mainstream cachet.  Oh well, I guess I'll be opening the wallet for DLC...

[schild]

It's already amazing fun to rock out in guitar hero with friends. Here's the problem: I think Rock Band is going to stay in the lap of mostly unskilled ninnnies. The track list just doesn't touch GH3 or 2 for that matter and finding singers is going to be harder than digging diamonds out of the arizona desert.

[murdoc]

Tracklist on GH3 is great. Too bad that when there's a bunch of people over and we want to play co-op quickplay like we did in GH2, they completely and totally fucking ruined it. It's exactly what it seems like, a patched on addition to a game.

No ratings, no scores, no percentage breakdown for each player, no Paint it Black, no reason for the next couple of people to try and break a high score... because there isn't one. BOO.

[Phildo]

And now release is delayed just long enough that I won't be in town in time to pick up my preorder.  Hooray!

[caladein]

The track list just doesn't touch GH3 or 2 for that matter and finding singers is going to be harder than digging diamonds out of the arizona desert.

I'd much rather be singing the majority of the GH3 track list to be honest ("Through the Fire and Flames" ~= "Blitzkrieg Bop" though). That, said, I don't know how well tuned the vocals are since the last thing I heard was that the artists themselves were having difficulties on Expert .

[Lantien]

It's already amazing fun to rock out in guitar hero with friends. Here's the problem: I think Rock Band is going to stay in the lap of mostly unskilled ninnnies. The track list just doesn't touch GH3 or 2 for that matter and finding singers is going to be harder than digging diamonds out of the arizona desert.

I guess I'm not seeing a problem, especially with the "first title", about having the game being in the lap of unskilled ninnies.  You don't think that between Enter Sandman, Green Grass & High Tides, Flirting with Disaster, and Run for the Hills, you don't have at least a decent starting base of difficult songs for three instrument-based people to work on?  I'm honestly curious to know if in the more competative community, if that's enough.  From an outside observation, it seems like in most of the Guitar Hero games, there was a very narrow band of songs that higher tiered players would constant gauge themselves on anyways. In addition, you could argue that down the road, they can fill in more super-difficult songs via the DLC, assuming that Harmonix is more prompt with DLC than the Guitar Hero series...

[WayAbvPar]

Unskilled ninny here. That is the real reason I want Rock Band- I can suck at 3 different aspects!

[Samwise]

I'm hoping I can rig something up to be able to play the drums with my feet while I play the guitar and sing.  I'll be a one-man (rock) band!

[Big Gulp]

Unskilled ninny here. That is the real reason I want Rock Band- I can suck at 3 different aspects!

I've come to grips with my mediocrity in rhythm games.  To be honest, I think any level above medium just stops being fun and becomes more about frantic fretwork.  I can half ass my way through the first few set lists of the GH games on hard (barely squeaking out a 3 star), but I never enjoy it.  I'd rather relax and feel like I'm rocking out.  Of course, I'm also not into gaming for the challenge of it.  If a game actively becomes a pain in the ass to play that doesn't spur me on to improving my game; it just makes me stop playing.

[MrHat]

I'm hoping I can rig something up to be able to play the drums with my feet while I play the guitar and sing.  I'll be a one-man (rock) band!

lol, no.1 on youtube for 3 weeks imo.

[Lantien]

I'm hoping I can rig something up to be able to play the drums with my feet while I play the guitar and sing.  I'll be a one-man (rock) band!

Some people are trying at least 2 instruments at once.  Chris at the Wired liveblog has a video of himself trying to do so: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ltSREu_n2g&eurl=http://blog.wired.com/games/rock_band/index.html  No clue how good he did though. The smart money, if what you care more about is getting as far as possible, is to just do singing/bass guitar.

After reading accounts about the demo, and from my own experiences playing Rock Band, the one thing I'm worried about the most is the sturdiness of the Rock Band peripherals. It sounds like a lot of the demos at Best Buy are getting thrashed.  I'm interested in seeing how they hold up, compared to the Guitar Hero 3 controllers.  In addition, there's been talk on the 1up blog that due to the way they've recessed the keys, there's a bit of a learning curve to playing with the Rock Band Stratocaster; either you like it, or you don't.

And finally, http://RockBand.com has some videos out, some of which are astonishingly good.  Granted, that doesn't really matter, but if they put this much effort into the videos, I'm hoping they put as much effort into the gameplay and DLC.

[WayAbvPar]

Unskilled ninny here. That is the real reason I want Rock Band- I can suck at 3 different aspects!

I've come to grips with my mediocrity in rhythm games.  To be honest, I think any level above medium just stops being fun and becomes more about frantic fretwork.  I can half ass my way through the first few set lists of the GH games on hard (barely squeaking out a 3 star), but I never enjoy it.  I'd rather relax and feel like I'm rocking out.  Of course, I'm also not into gaming for the challenge of it.  If a game actively becomes a pain in the ass to play that doesn't spur me on to improving my game; it just makes me stop playing.

Amen. You are cordially invited to play in my mediocre band anytime.

[Big Gulp]

More Rock Band DLC announced!

Kind of puts Guitar Hero's continuing "song pack" clusterfuck into perspective...

[Samwise]

How much are they charging for them?

[Big Gulp]

How much are they charging for them?

Yeah, that could be a problem.   

I can't see them charging the same as an iTunes download like a lot of utopians out there are praying for.  I think I'd be comfortable with $2 a pop, though.  I'd just be judicious in my spending.

[schild]

They're $2 a pop.

Forgot this was the rockband thread. NM.

[Big Gulp]

They're $2 a pop.

Forgot this was the rockband thread. NM.

See, my problem with the GH downloads is that they're locked into those shitty song packs that usually only have one song I want.  Harmonix, on the other hand, has promised that they'd be making singles purchases possible.  I can cope with that, paying $6 when all I really want is the Bad Religion song, not so much.

I also think they'd be well advised to charge less for cover songs.

[NiX]

R-tards all across Canada are going nuts because EB switched their date from Nov 20th to Dec 20th. From working at EB I know that release dates are horribly subjective and rarely accurate. None the less, I have to ask, does anyone know anything for sure? Maybe you know a supplier or someone at EA/Harmonix.

[schild]

R-tards all across Canada are going nuts because EB switched their date from Nov 20th to Dec 20th. From working at EB I know that release dates are horribly subjective and rarely accurate. None the less, I have to ask, does anyone know anything for sure? Maybe you know a supplier or someone at EA/Harmonix.

Rock Band is pretty much all going to US at first.

[NiX]

So which one of you lovely people wants to buy my copy for me and ship it on up? Hrmmmmm?

[schild]

So which one of you lovely people wants to buy my copy for me and ship it on up? Hrmmmmm?

You don't know how much it weighs yet, do you?