War

[Comstar]

Defiantly a big win for Stainwagon after several days of losing the battle.  Rumours are that the Titan died because the GS CEO failed to request to have the node reinforced (hence the lag caused a delay in the DD's firing allowing the Titan to be tackled).

Looks like I missed the whole thing by going to sleep an hour beforehand. CCP will be displeased to hear the cap fight occurred at close range, though it is unknown if anyone deployed a target painter.

[Phildo]

The fault for not reinforcing the node probably lies with everyone involved, rather than the guy who's in Mexico getting married.  Just saying.

In fact, the node ought to have been reinforced two weeks ago and kept that way.

[tgr]

Defiantly a big win for Stainwagon after several days of losing the battle.  Rumours are that the Titan died because the GS CEO failed to request to have the node reinforced (hence the lag caused a delay in the DD's firing allowing the Titan to be tackled).

I notice how the titan doesn't seem to have any fittings, I'm assuming that's simply due to the amount of people on the killmail pushing the destroyed/dropped items off the deep end, and not just goons throwing the titan in there to go boom for "ooh fireworks".

Not that I would be too surprised if that had been the case, though.

Looks like I missed the whole thing by going to sleep an hour beforehand. CCP will be displeased to hear the cap fight occurred at close range, though it is unknown if anyone deployed a target painter.

Oh, be nice. Or actually, on second thought...

[Sir T]

It was a fun fight despite the lag. We warped in and we were calmly ripping up the hictors and dictors when the Doomsdays went off and killed a chunk of our support fleet including me.  

Seriously, using them there was pretty bloody stupid. And yeah how come the node wasn't reinforced. Though with 800+ in local it would have been pretty laggy anyway.

[IainC]

GFFC jabber was pretty  during that fight, Dbrb was yelling for titan pilots to wake up. He, Sam and Moostang were practically creaming themselves over getting the chance to deploy and clear the grid. Mittens chipped in with 'wtf are you doing' but a bunch of guys including Dbrb insisted that it would be fine.

Then all was silence...

[setar]

And if Hurley's account of events is correct he's the only person who managed to lose two titans without doing anything wrong.

[Endie]

And if Hurley's account of events is correct he's the only person who managed to lose two titans without doing anything wrong.

While Goonswarm are the only alliance to lose three titans without doing anything right.

(Actually BoB managed that first but it was a good line)

i saw that coming from a mile away, this alliance is run by literal retards

I know this got Syndicated but it's actuallty true: Rand posted in advance about the possibility that the logged off Stainwagon dreads were part of a login trap.  We knew they were there - we all knew they were there - and yet we sieged in Russian prime with enough dreads to constitute no more than a tempting morsel to Russians, and then with hostile dreads on grid we doomsdayed in a system nobody had bothered to have reinforced.  It's a litany of failure, and of reinforcing that failure with more of the same.

And if Hurley's account of events is correct he's the only person who managed to lose two titans without doing anything wrong.

That's a shame, but SoT are pretty awful as well as morally flexible, so I have to say that his decision to join them was the first mistake frmo which all else flowed.

[Yoru]

i saw that coming from a mile away, this alliance is run by literal retards

I know this got Syndicated but it's actuallty true: Rand posted in advance about the possibility that the logged off Stainwagon dreads were part of a login trap.  We knew they were there - we all knew they were there - and yet we sieged in Russian prime with enough dreads to constitute no more than a tempting morsel to Russians, and then with hostile dreads on grid we doomsdayed in a system nobody had bothered to have reinforced.  It's a litany of failure, and of reinforcing that failure with more of the same.

If it had that kind of context wrapped around it, it probably wouldn't've hit Syndicate. Tip for the future.

[palmer_eldritch]

Defiantly a big win for Stainwagon after several days of losing the battle.  Rumours are that the Titan died because the GS CEO failed to request to have the node reinforced (hence the lag caused a delay in the DD's firing allowing the Titan to be tackled).

Looks like I missed the whole thing by going to sleep an hour beforehand. CCP will be displeased to hear the cap fight occurred at close range, though it is unknown if anyone deployed a target painter.

Don't know about blame, but the doomsday didn't hit until about 15 minutes after it fired (and the effects went off).

[Endie]

Things are simmering away pre-patch. IT alliance failed to take a second system before dominion rolled out, so it will be interesting to see what effect the new mechanics have on their current high levels of participation. Their recent history of living in signle station systems has been unpleasant for them (both 49- and PR-), but the landscape is different now.

We prepared for the possible assault from the east by dropping outposts in two border systems today before downtime. A2 in particular will presumably be a hotspot as it and HED will be unprotected by doomsdays now.

As a final note, those of you who are long-term f13 posters and who followed this thread should take advantage of the current newbie drive in MMO Discussion. I'll post a link when not on this shifty iPhone with its utterly horrible safari browser.

Edit: there we go: http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=18375.0

[Endie]

Tri just ganked 10 Razor freighters on a convoy op, while it looks like most of the infrastructure for solar fleet just got ganked by atlas - 15 freighters' worth. I am utterly unshocked that Tri had infiltrated Razor sufficiently to get wind of their op, but I am impressed that Atlas had done the same to the Russians.

[Phildo]

Due to a role mix-up, the following was just stolen from Goonfleet:

Ammo/BPs.
Infrastructure.
And some freighters.

I think what's going to hurt most of all is that Analytical Mind skillbook.

[Gets]

What were the two white boxes for?

[Phildo]

The screenshots were original from a trolling thread that the spy made before being booted, claiming he was stealing them from Atlas instead.  The white blots were him striking out the system name, but forgetting to do so on the other two images.

[Gets]

I guess it's true. Anyone can steal a bunch of crap, but trolling is an art.

[eldaec]

  Incoming leak from important internet spaceship community goonfleet dot com.

So I just noticed that Bruchettas got called out in the Secret Santa thread because he signed up for it with his very first post

It is literally more difficult to penetrate our security surrounding the Secret Santa system than it is to get GSOL roles

[Trigona]

An interesting post on CAOD  http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1225521

Maybe Fountain isn't as secure as I imagined.

[Endie]

An interesting post on CAOD  http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1225521

Maybe Fountain isn't as secure as I imagined.

Gobbins is and always has been an attention-loving drama queen. PL need a couple of big wins, and I dunno if they have the sticking power under consistent pressure that we had in detorid and the NC had during Max, but that post is tame stuff compared with our forums even when things are going well.

[palmer_eldritch]

I didn't read most of his stuff (obviously) but from what I read, he was moaning about PL not losing enough caps to the NC and taking IT too seriously.

Which is strange, as events have shown PL's problem was that it lost too many caps to NC and failed to take IT seriously enough.

Although if anyone thinks that's wrong and wants to explain what's really up with PL, please do. It's all very mysterious.

[Endie]

Actually I'd missed the maz convos those do sound a bit dodgy.

[Simond]

It's been a pretty damned funny 24 hours. 

[Gets]

It has begun

http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5102886

[Endie]

It has begun

http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5102886

I'm guessing from the fit that someone was playing station games and got taught by a titan why that doesn't work so well any more if the opponent has titans. 

It's not quite the beginning, though: Tri lost a rorq at one of their poses pretty soon after the patch went live to an NC DD, and PL have been taking bites out of the IT capfleet by popping dreads attacking POSes.

[Thrawn]

I think the true "beginning" of the new DD for me will be when a titan loss mail shows up with 20 other titans head-shotting it in an instant.  It's a great improvement over the old one though.

[Gets]

Titans are the new battleships.

[Murgos]

Titans are the new battleships.

Can Titans fire their bfg and warp off now?  Or do they still have to wait around a bit before they can boogie?

[Trigona]

I think they have to wait for 5 minutes.

[Simond]

They need to swap the fuses on the wave motion engine before they can re-engage primary drive thrusters. 

[Endie]

I think they have to wait for 5 minutes.

Is that to jump or to warp?!?  Because I know that PL has been picking IT caps out of sieged dread fleets, and that is ballsy as hell if they can't warp out for five minutes and are depending on a cloak.

[lac]

It's only 30 seconds AFAIK.

[Gets]

For a person who doesn't play anymore you are most always correct, Lac.

Also titans can tank whole dreadfleets apparently.

[tgr]

30 seconds after firing before it can move, 5 minutes before it can fire again, I think it is.

[Gets]

I bet the secret plan is to make it seem that titans are all über on the battlefield and get all of them logging in agan. Then suddenly release fighterbombers in a patch and *BOOM* supercapital graveyards everywhere.

[Murgos]

30 seconds after firing before it can move, 5 minutes before it can fire again, I think it is.

So, sieged dreads are now sitting ducks to a couple of titans and a covops?

[Goumindong]

30 seconds after firing before it can move, 5 minutes before it can fire again, I think it is.

So, sieged dreads are now sitting ducks to a couple of titans and a covops?

From the patch notes:

"The Doomsday Device is now a single target weapon, only usable on ships and entities. It has a rate of fire of 10mins, prevents the titan from warping for 30seconds, prevents you from cloaking or jumping for 10minutes."

The current trick is to peak out behind POS shields to nuke dreads.