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Reply #140 on: March 21, 2007, 02:48:05 AM

She was rescued by Count Iblis and the Eastern Alliance imo.

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Reply #141 on: March 21, 2007, 08:18:17 AM

I think the shark-jumping on BSG was actually the Starbuck "death" episode. It was a good episode, but seemed a needless death. This season has certainly had some water-treading moments, pretty much all downhill after that fantastic Rescue from New Caprica episode, but that was the pinnacle. After that, where do you go? It feels like all the major characters are being shuffled around and moved out of their normal positions of prominence either so we can 1) see how the characters react in unfamiliar situations or 2) to open up places for BSG the Next Generation. Only the Next Gen isn't as compelling. Helo is easily led, which based on Tigh being led by his dick before Ellen's death, he's perfect for the role. But who is going to be CAG? Hot Dog? Racetrack? There are no more interesting pilots and fucking Lee has been shitting the bed since he lost the weight. The whole love triangle thing went nowwhere.

I'm still watching, because I hope the season finale will give us some good pewpew ahhhhh fuck my leg moments. I also really dig Baltar's lawyer character, mainly because that actor is good with shitty angsty cryptic lines. But fuck, get on with it. Get back to the Cylons and the 5, get back to the war.

People dog on Lost for not revealing some of the mystery, but BSG is starting to really string some mysteries out way too long. Why has no one dissected any of the clone Cylons to see just how they are created and what makes them tick? I mean someone who isn't a racist or a bag of raging bearded hormones. Why aren't the humans tapping little hybrid baby for anitbodies like it's a fucking meatkeg?

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Reply #142 on: March 21, 2007, 09:18:18 AM

I also really dig Baltar's lawyer character, mainly because that actor is good with shitty angsty cryptic lines. But fuck, get on with it. Get back to the Cylons and the 5, get back to the war.

Yeah, the lawyer guy is awesome.  He's about the only thing that's made the trial process bearable at all, and I'd just assume he become a regular on the show.  He just needs to find something to do besides trials.  No more trials please.

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Reply #143 on: March 21, 2007, 09:29:00 AM

> The door code to Romo Lampkin's temporary quarters on Galactica is 1234.
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Reply #144 on: March 21, 2007, 09:59:44 AM

> The door code to Romo Lampkin's temporary quarters on Galactica is 1234.

1234?  That's the kind of code a moron would have on their luggage!

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Reply #145 on: March 21, 2007, 10:12:37 AM

I also really dig Baltar's lawyer character, mainly because that actor is good with shitty angsty cryptic lines. But fuck, get on with it. Get back to the Cylons and the 5, get back to the war.

Yeah, the lawyer guy is awesome.  He's about the only thing that's made the trial process bearable at all, and I'd just assume he become a regular on the show.  He just needs to find something to do besides trials.  No more trials please.

He is a lawyer, so what else, apart from maybe drawing up wills could he be useful for in the BSG world?  Maybe running for President eventually?
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Reply #146 on: March 21, 2007, 10:53:54 AM

I also really dig Baltar's lawyer character, mainly because that actor is good with shitty angsty cryptic lines. But fuck, get on with it. Get back to the Cylons and the 5, get back to the war.

Yeah, the lawyer guy is awesome.  He's about the only thing that's made the trial process bearable at all, and I'd just assume he become a regular on the show.  He just needs to find something to do besides trials.  No more trials please.

He is a lawyer, so what else, apart from maybe drawing up wills could he be useful for in the BSG world?  Maybe running for President eventually?

First, we put him in a fat suit...
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Reply #147 on: March 21, 2007, 11:26:34 AM

You might be onto something. The fat suit was the first incident I can think of where the gimmick overtook the story. "Lets put Lee in a Fat suit, we could make a story out of it". "Lets try that quadrangle of love, we could milk a story out of it". "Lets kill Starbuck, that would really shock the people". I call the Fat suit the shark moment, the story just still had enough momentum to carry on for a few episodes. The momentum is gone now and the characters are not naturally evolved anymore. They feel like what they are. Vessels to carry the story they want to be told. Whereas in the beginning you bought that the characters act like they do because of what they were shown to be like.
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Reply #148 on: March 22, 2007, 06:50:21 AM

I'm still enjoying the show.  I don't know what you guys are on about.

Also: http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=11755

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Reply #149 on: March 22, 2007, 07:30:37 AM

A fourth season, with a full 22-episode order and a 2-hour movie. I smell cashing in.

Let's just hope season 4 goes better places than season 3 has since the escape from New Caprica.

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Reply #150 on: March 22, 2007, 08:58:58 AM

I'm still enjoying the show.  I don't know what you guys are on about.

I still enjoy it; I've just seen a drop in quality over the last half of season 3.

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Reply #151 on: March 22, 2007, 03:13:06 PM

It was revealed a while back that Starbuck was leaving the series to do a pilot for something else. I just get the impression they had a plan on where to go with her character, but ran out of time and just did the death episdoe the way they did as a bail out. I mean really, it did absolutely nothing to satisfy all the crypticism about her having a destiny, yet it was enough of a "mysterious death" to make it seem like they can revist it.

My guess is that they hope we all forget about the dangling plotline and they can just shove it aside to be forgotten when the series ends. The law of good tv says the show has to end very soon, as do all other shows I enjoy.


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Reply #152 on: March 23, 2007, 01:13:20 PM

It was revealed a while back that Starbuck was leaving the series to do a pilot for something else. I just get the impression they had a plan on where to go with her character, but ran out of time and just did the death episdoe the way they did as a bail out. I mean really, it did absolutely nothing to satisfy all the crypticism about her having a destiny, yet it was enough of a "mysterious death" to make it seem like they can revist it.

My guess is that they hope we all forget about the dangling plotline and they can just shove it aside to be forgotten when the series ends. The law of good tv says the show has to end very soon, as do all other shows I enjoy.



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Reply #153 on: March 23, 2007, 05:40:55 PM

I could go for some hot Seelix/Racetrack action...
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Reply #154 on: March 23, 2007, 08:40:49 PM

My question is...Cylon Sharon is married
There are many copies.

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Reply #155 on: March 23, 2007, 09:09:53 PM

Not gonna argue, the show has slipped.  But I've liked most of the eps regardless, just wish they would get a move on with the trial and the main plotlines.  Just doesn't seem as packed in as 1st and 2nd seasons were.

Random thoughts...
James Callis as Baltar is tremendous and the writing for him is great.
Lee is still a weak character to me, he needs to save the fleet again ala "Hand of God" to get back macho points.
Starbuck will be back, bet my last cubit on it.
Adama is totally tapping Presidental ass.
Love how the minor characters (Seelix) gradually get their own stories.   
I like Sam, saw him in uniform, is he gonna be a Viper pilot or join the military? 
Dualla leaving Lee after all they've been through?  Complete crap storyline there, she has the hots for Adama man-load.
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Reply #156 on: March 24, 2007, 09:59:32 AM

Dualla leaving Lee after all they've been through?  Complete crap storyline there, she has the hots for Adama man-load.

She should have ended up with Billy anyway. I never quite understood the romance between her and Adama.

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Reply #157 on: March 24, 2007, 11:32:04 AM

Dualla leaving Lee after all they've been through?  Complete crap storyline there, she has the hots for Adama man-load.

She should have ended up with Billy anyway. I never quite understood the romance between her and Adama.

Seemed like the whole co-worker, being stuck together out in space on a mostly abandoned ship relationship got the best of them.  Starbuck was well out of sight/mind for Lee, and Dualla just seems to get the hots for whomever she's spending any time with.
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Reply #158 on: March 24, 2007, 04:39:35 PM

It feels fake since we went from Billy dying towards the end of the second season to being married at the start of the third.  We had no development to understand why they're together and from day one it's been shown they have major troubles.  Why should we care about their relationship?

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Reply #159 on: March 25, 2007, 07:28:27 PM

I'm actually in such complete agreement with Haemish's entire post on 3/21 that there's almost no reason for this post.

Did they change writers? Or did they really not think the show was going to survive for a third season? They're in this death-spiral of soap-angst, typical fodder while the show transitions from the point it had now that the Producers realized they couldn't make that last forever.

The whole drawn-out trial thing is just stupid. People like Baltar. So have the guy escape, start a movement, whatever. Just stop this "our system works because otherwise we're Cylons" crap. It's been done to death since day one. His lawyer is awesome though, a shame he's wasted on the wrong side against a colorless suit. Adama is wasted. Starbucks' death was stupid, like when they killed Yar in ST:TNG. If she's planning on leaving the show, you know longer than it takes to film one fucking episode, so at least make it lead up to it.

Still has its moments, but these days I wait for the reviews from my co-workers before spinning up the DVR.
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Reply #160 on: March 25, 2007, 07:58:29 PM

Finale:

What. The. Fuck.

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Reply #161 on: March 25, 2007, 08:00:11 PM

Fuck me

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Reply #162 on: March 25, 2007, 08:01:24 PM

Yeah, pretty much what I was yelling at the screen.

And my loony theory proved true? WTF, that never happens.

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Reply #163 on: March 25, 2007, 08:11:25 PM

Sad. What happened to my show?
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Reply #164 on: March 25, 2007, 08:11:35 PM

Wow that was messed UP!

I was right about some stuff (not gonna spoil), wrong about others.  It's funny I had a crazy idea that turned out to be true.
I didn't even believe it myself.

I've got some much to say but maybe I'll wait a couple of days so everyone can watch it.

Now that was some good TV.
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Reply #165 on: March 25, 2007, 08:21:27 PM

I've got some much to say but maybe I'll wait a couple of days so everyone can watch it.


Same here.  Some of my theories proved correct, but the show still came out of left field and surprised the shit out of me.  After the third act (final commercial break) I was literally pounding the floor shouting "what are they about to do to us???"

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Reply #166 on: March 25, 2007, 08:25:55 PM

I feel so left out. We've only got to the point of the cylons arriving on New Caprica here in Aussieland.

Someone able to link to somewhere on what happened?

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Reply #167 on: March 25, 2007, 08:27:33 PM

I feel so left out. We've only got to the point of the cylons arriving on New Caprica here in Aussieland.

Someone able to link to somewhere on what happened?

You don't really want to know, do you?  It was a hell of a surprise.  Better to not know.

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Reply #168 on: March 25, 2007, 08:27:44 PM

After the third act (final commercial break) I was literally pounding the floor shouting "what are they about to do to us???"

Yeah. If only I'd stopped watching then.

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Reply #169 on: March 25, 2007, 08:34:10 PM

So Bob Dylan's a Cylon. Who knew?
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Reply #170 on: March 25, 2007, 08:37:30 PM

I feel so left out. We've only got to the point of the cylons arriving on New Caprica here in Aussieland.

Someone able to link to somewhere on what happened?

I agree with Roac - you're in for some good episodes yourself.

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Reply #171 on: March 25, 2007, 08:56:39 PM

I thought the finale was tits. I loved Lee's soliloquy and the latter-half developments.

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Reply #172 on: March 25, 2007, 09:13:38 PM

Yeah I thought Lee redeemed himself to me.  In a way I was upset at some of the characters fates, but man it had my head spinning!

I think folks are either gonna love this or hate it.

BSG has been officially approved for a full 22 episode 4th season by the way.

 

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Reply #173 on: March 25, 2007, 09:16:29 PM

Apollo totally redeemed himself. The Old Man knew it too.

But seriously... Two Thousand Fucking Eight?

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Reply #174 on: March 25, 2007, 09:21:02 PM

Liked Baltar.  Loved Tigh.  Hated the ending.

But the Dylan lyrics... total cheese.  The second they started doing it, I spaced out and imagined William Shattner doing a spoken-verse version of the song.
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