Warlock approaching 60

[Xanthippe]

My warlock will likely be 60 when TBC comes out, but since it's my 3rd 60, and my hunter is still my favorite 60, I won't be rushing to get her to 70.

A friend who has a warlock alt suggested that I take up tailoring so I can make a Robe of the Void, (it's BOP), and then drop tailoring since I already have a tailor at 300.

I'm sure I can power tailoring up pretty easily.  My skills are skinning/herbs, both at 300 (I'd drop herbs for tailoring, then likely pick up mining after tailoring).

Should I?

[Threash]

In TBC every trade skill is going to have specific benefits that are only for those who have the trade skill, i would recommend sticking with tailoring or going for alchemy since you already have herbalism.  Two gathering skills are still ok if you don't care about the extra bonuses from having a real trade skil, but for example alchemy will eventually get you a 15 to all stats trinket that increases the effects of healing/mana potions by 40%, enchanting has some decent ring only enchants that are only for enchants, im not entirely sure what tailoring gets you but its probably some kind of epic item that requires max tailoring to wear.

[caladein]

I really wouldn't, although it seems like a rather popular plan after talking to my Warlock friend just now.

If you don't mind PvPing, the Field Marshal's Dreadweave Robe takes a bit over 20k Honor and 30 AB Marks of Honor and is a good deal better then Robe of the Void (unless you love the pet heal). You'll be making around 500 Honor a game on average, so it'll probably take you just as long to get Tailoring to 300 and farm the mats as it would to get the Epic PvP robes.

[Jayce]

You'll be making around 500 Honor a game on average, so it'll probably take you just as long to get Tailoring to 300 and farm the mats as it would to get the Epic PvP robes.

Unless you're loaded and can stand in front of the AH and buy your way to 300.  Then it's a simple matter of adding the cost of skilling to 300 into the cost of the mats needed for the robe. If you're willing to pay, go for it.  It's sort of like buying an epic.

But then, you could consider dropping tailoring on the other one if that makes sense (and you dont already have too many nice patterns learned).

[ajax34i]

EDIT: nevermind, read it backwards.

Sure.

[lamaros]

I bought the robes with my lock, tailoring to 300 just for it.

Not worth it really. I hardly use them in PvP, and there are better things around.

Now that TBC/Honour Patch is so close I wouldn't waste the money on them.

[SurfD]

i would probably say drop skinning, level up alchemy, and spec transmutation when BC goes live.  Transmutes are going to be a BIG cash cow in expantion.

[Zetor]

I made the robe for my lock back in early-mid 2005 (bought the AH pattern for 150g, picked up tailoring, farmed for a few weeks in felwood, crafted it, dropped tailoring)... it was extremely uber back then.

Nowadays.. not so hot. The blue pvp piece is almost as good, the epic pvp piece is better, deathmist is better (if you want to spend 500g and a lot of time on the tier0.5 questline), and Robe of Volatile Power (if you're destruction) / Vestments of the Shifting Sands (ditto) / Zandalar Demoniac's Robes (if you're demonology or affliction) or even Felheart Robes (+1% hit is love) are all easily obtainable with the number of 20-man and MC pugs running around nowadays, and I'd use any of those over RoTV in general.

It DOES have its niche of being the robe with more +damage on it than anything else except for REALLY high-end stuff, so if you're putting together a pure +damage set, it has its place. Problem is, the only reason you'd do that for is raiding or solo farming, and since you'll likely replace the robe quickly in BC, I wouldn't really bother; I also suspect you already have a well-equipped main, so you don't really need to min-max the grinding efficiency of your 'lock. Also, keep in mind that you have to farm Demonic Runes for it, which are BoP, hence the "felwood farming" part. (the other materials are fairly easy to obtain via AH or otherwise) The pet-heal can be clutch in PVP if you are soul link spec, but honestly, it doesn't heal enough to make it worthwhile.


-- Z.

[lamaros]

I made the robe for my lock back in early-mid 2005 (bought the AH pattern for 150g, picked up tailoring, farmed for a few weeks in felwood, crafted it, dropped tailoring)... it was extremely uber back then.

Nowadays.. not so hot. The blue pvp piece is almost as good, the epic pvp piece is better, deathmist is better (if you want to spend 500g and a lot of time on the tier0.5 questline), and Robe of Volatile Power (if you're destruction) / Vestments of the Shifting Sands (ditto) / Zandalar Demoniac's Robes (if you're demonology or affliction) or even Felheart Robes (+1% hit is love) are all easily obtainable with the number of 20-man and MC pugs running around nowadays, and I'd use any of those over RoTV in general.

It DOES have its niche of being the robe with more +damage on it than anything else except for REALLY high-end stuff, so if you're putting together a pure +damage set, it has its place. Problem is, the only reason you'd do that for is raiding or solo farming, and since you'll likely replace the robe quickly in BC, I wouldn't really bother; I also suspect you already have a well-equipped main, so you don't really need to min-max the grinding efficiency of your 'lock. Also, keep in mind that you have to farm Demonic Runes for it, which are BoP, hence the "felwood farming" part. (the other materials are fairly easy to obtain via AH or otherwise) The pet-heal can be clutch in PVP if you are soul link spec, but honestly, it doesn't heal enough to make it worthwhile.


-- Z.

The farming bit is easy, and the mats are all easy to get, pretty cheaply (I've seen the pattern drop 3 times myself and it AHs for about 15g)

The reason I wouldn't get it is it's just not worth losing another 300 skill unless you're getting tailoring anyway and are going to keep it for TBC, and because it's only useful for Raiding in certain circumstances.

[Xanthippe]

In TBC every trade skill is going to have specific benefits that are only for those who have the trade skill, i would recommend sticking with tailoring or going for alchemy since you already have herbalism.  Two gathering skills are still ok if you don't care about the extra bonuses from having a real trade skil, but for example alchemy will eventually get you a 15 to all stats trinket that increases the effects of healing/mana potions by 40%, enchanting has some decent ring only enchants that are only for enchants, im not entirely sure what tailoring gets you but its probably some kind of epic item that requires max tailoring to wear.

I already have a tailor/enchanter (my 60 priest).  I was figuring on going mining/jewelcrafter on warlock who is currently skinning/herbs.  Hunter is alch/engineering (sticking with eng just for the ability to make ammo, and alch is very helpful for my guild, so dropping neither of those).

[Xanthippe]

I really wouldn't, although it seems like a rather popular plan after talking to my Warlock friend just now.

If you don't mind PvPing, the Field Marshal's Dreadweave Robe takes a bit over 20k Honor and 30 AB Marks of Honor and is a good deal better then Robe of the Void (unless you love the pet heal). You'll be making around 500 Honor a game on average, so it'll probably take you just as long to get Tailoring to 300 and farm the mats as it would to get the Epic PvP robes.

I don't have to farm any mats because I'm rich.  Been playing the AH for over a year now, so I can just buy the linen/wool/silk/ mageweave/runecloth.  Gold isn't a problem.  For the actual robe, I can buy those mats easily too.

I can get 300 tailoring, buy the mats to make it, make it, and level mining to 300 before TBC comes out, I'm pretty sure.

Is Robe of the Void worth having for the however many weeks it would take me to play AB (I'm alliance, remember, we lose most ABs except for when I'm in a guild group, which isn't often) and get the pvp reward robe? 

I'm thinking I won't have time to get to 60 plus hit Field Marshall before TBC.

[Xanthippe]

Problem is, the only reason you'd do that for is raiding or solo farming, and since you'll likely replace the robe quickly in BC, I wouldn't really bother; I also suspect you already have a well-equipped main, so you don't really need to min-max the grinding efficiency of your 'lock. Also, keep in mind that you have to farm Demonic Runes for it, which are BoP, hence the "felwood farming" part. (the other materials are fairly easy to obtain via AH or otherwise) The pet-heal can be clutch in PVP if you are soul link spec, but honestly, it doesn't heal enough to make it worthwhile.

This is what I was looking for.  How long would I use it after TBC comes out, etc.

Now the pvp robe is looking much better - especially since this is likely going to be more of a BG toon than anything else.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

[caladein]

Is Robe of the Void worth having for the however many weeks it would take me to play AB (I'm alliance, remember, we lose most ABs except for when I'm in a guild group, which isn't often) and get the pvp reward robe? 

I'm thinking I won't have time to get to 60 plus hit Field Marshall before TBC.

No ranks any more so you just get X amount of Honor and Y Marks of Honor and buy it (when the PvP patch rolls around next week). If you can outright buy the Robe of the Void, it isn't bad robe by any means though.

[lamaros]

Is Robe of the Void worth having for the however many weeks it would take me to play AB (I'm alliance, remember, we lose most ABs except for when I'm in a guild group, which isn't often) and get the pvp reward robe? 

I'm thinking I won't have time to get to 60 plus hit Field Marshall before TBC.

No ranks any more so you just get X amount of Honor and Y Marks of Honor and buy it (when the PvP patch rolls around next week). If you can outright buy the Robe of the Void, it isn't bad robe by any means though.

Actually, it really isn't that great.

The Use function is pretty much useless.

It has no Int and Low Stam, so it doesn't add much to our mana pool.
It has low Stam, so it doesn't add much to our survivablity.
It has no sets to combine with for bonuses, but is in a armor location used by many other sets.

All it has a reasonably high +damage. But not that much higher than other options avaliable.

When you take everything into account many other items come out ahead.