Heroes (SPOILERS)

[Nevermore]

I've been waiting for Bob to turn someone into a solid gold statue.  Maybe that's how Adam dies.

[SnakeCharmer]

Finally got around to watching it last night...

What a phenomenal episode!

Kinda wish they wouldn't have revealed who the masked man was. 
Was good to see HRG bringing his bad side out (his mood/attitude when he had Elle tied up and her feet in the wash tub was a w e s o m e).
Was PISSED when he ended up getting eyeshotted, but cheered when I saw him with the IV of Claire's blood.  Really not liking Mohinder right now....
Really liking Matt turning to the dark side a bit.  He'd make a great bad guy.

Didn't get to see the previews for next weeks episode though.  What happened?

[HaemishM]

Ya, I don't think he's the big boss either.  I actually think it's Adam and we'll see a whole lot of OMG NOWAYS turns in the next episode or something.

Bennett saying that the company dies w/ Bob I think was referring more to the goldfarming skills that Bob has.  No Money, no problems.

Yeah, I've never considered Bob to be the be-all end-all of the company. His gold talent probably was good seed capital, but if they are relying on him to be a solvent company, well, they aren't. The damn company is probably invested heavily enough that his talent really isn't necessary anymore. I also think if anyone, Adam is the one still running the company, even if Bob doesn't know that it's him. And we still don't know who this Victoria Pratt chick is or what her power is or what part of the company she has.

[MrHat]

Weather control!

[Venkman]

Bob's can turn things to gold? That sounds right I'm just trying to remember where it was established?

I don't think that'd kill Adam though. You need something like an atomizer, like that dehydration chick from the comic series over the summer, or Dark Phoenix/Jean Grey, something that breaks him down to something smaller than the cells that can regenerate.

/geek_off

[Samwise]

Bob's can turn things to gold? That sounds right I'm just trying to remember where it was established?

In the episode where he recruits Mohinder.  He turns a spoon to gold or something to illustrate where the Company gets its infinite funding from.  That's the only reference ever made to his power, so we don't know if he can do it to people, or if he can do other elements, or what.

I don't think that'd kill Adam though. You need something like an atomizer, like that dehydration chick from the comic series over the summer, or Dark Phoenix/Jean Grey, something that breaks him down to something smaller than the cells that can regenerate.

If he were turned into a gold statue he wouldn't have cells any more.  No more organic molecules, no more cells, no more regeneration.   

[Venkman]

Oh that's right.

Depends on how deep the gold goes

[Tairnyn]

Finally got around to watching this weeks episode and I'm back on the wagon with loving this show. The writing was very well done and stayed away from the formulaic plot twists that made me wonder if the writers quit before the strike. It's been a while since I actually felt some empathy for the characters. Not having to endure Nikki or Maya was blissful.

I can definitely see Little Miss Sparks begin digging into her childhood and turning against her father and the Company which is a nice twist on her otherwise unshakable strong-arming on his behalf. Her evil stepford daughter attitude was starting to get annoying and really lacked the humanity that makes a decent character.

I'm interested to know what motivated the resurrection of HRG. I'll admit I didn't see that coming and I enjoyed how they had it be the last 'oh shit' moment. Maybe Bob felt he owed Mohinder for saving his life or perhaps he's being used as a psychological poker chip in getting a hold of Claire. Maybe Bob just wants to extract sweet, painful revenge. I'm really hoping that the regen blood doesn't become such a recurring theme that death no longer matters at all, though. At some point it will be like watching the new Star Wars movies where you know the main characters can't die and danger loses its impact.

I'm actually a little sad to see the line of paintings end, even though Peter still has the sporadic artistic vision. They seemed to be a character in themselves, representing fate and driving some characters to accept it as inevitable or battle against it at any cost. They provided a (sometimes not so) subtle undertone of the determinism vs. free will argument and grounded the show in the comic book theme.

With the amount of time they spent building up Maya and her Virgin Mary complex I'm dreading to see what role she plays in the future. I can't even fathom how they could make her power interesting without revealing that the symptoms stem from an interesting aneurysm-causing phenomenon that is yet to be revealed. I just can't see her being killed off in short order with the amount of time they put into 'building' her character.

Someone pay those writers what they want.. they earned it with this episode!

[CmdrSlack]

I'm hoping that next episode establishes whether Adam is evil or not. We see how he treated Hiro, but Hiro sort of cockblocked him. My guess is that he's using Peter and not earnestly trying to save the world. On the other hand, if his goal is destroying the company, then that would also destroy the virus, thus saving the world.

I don't buy the idea that he's really running the company. All of what we've heard, even from Ma Petrelli when Parkman used his power on her, is that the company was started to basically lock Adam up, and now he wants revenge against all of them. If there's some twist on that, I'd be surprised, because it would contradict what we understand about Parkman's power.

Didn't get to see the previews for next weeks episode though.  What happened?

Go back a page. All I recall is the Hiro coming up behind Peter and putting his sword to Peter's neck. Peter then says, "Hiro?"

[Tebonas]

Ma Petrelli was very deliberate in her answers. Her being Ma Petrelli, she still could have said the truth, but not the whole truth. Leaving things out could change the context.

[Reg]

Adam isn't completely invulnerable. Assuming he has the same regen power as Claire and Peter all it takes to kill him is a knife to the brain that isn't immediately removed.

[Venkman]

The part I don't get is Bob needing Claire while they had Adam. Seems to me they could have siphoned off thousands of gallons of the stuff over the last 30 years to put into cold storage... unless in the process of "healing" the blood would build an entire new person?

That'd be an interesting twist I think Wes even asked about that in one of those taunt-the-new-girl classes, when he asked if a toe was cut off whether the original host would grow a new toe or the toe would grow a new person.

[Tairnyn]

I'll make a completely uneducated guess and say that the part that has the heart/spinal column/brain combo would regenerate. Although, both Peter and Claire had the spinal column (I assume) severed at the neck and it reattached once the obstruction was removed. I wonder how long someone could be dead before decomposition makes it so that it just doesn't work anymore.

[Venkman]

Just thought of something earlier today:

How do we know if that is Claire's blood that rezzed Noah? We don't seem to have any idea where he woke up, but there could be a very interesting twist if it was, in fact, Adam who provided the blood to ally with Noah against the common enemy.

[MrHat]

Yes, that's what I said.

 

[Riggswolfe]

I loved last week's episode too but now I want Suresh to die. He's turned into a total moron and turned on HRG for no good reason. He just saw Elle shoot Claire out of the sky and shot HRG to defend Bob and Elle? Is Suresh really this stupid? Seriously?

Also, I read the summaries for the next weeks episodes on AICN and it looks like Sylar may be back to his old ways before the season ends. I'm hoping he starts with Maya and/or her brother.

[Samwise]

I loved last week's episode too but now I want Suresh to die. He's turned into a total moron and turned on HRG for no good reason. He just saw Elle shoot Claire out of the sky and shot HRG to defend Bob and Elle? Is Suresh really this stupid? Seriously?

I think he didn't quite know what he was doing.  He'd already decided that he was on Bob's side and that he'd shoot HRG if HRG tried anything funny.  He just didn't have time to reevaluate that position in between the time that Elle shot Claire and HRG shot Elle.

Also, I read the summaries for the next weeks episodes on AICN and it looks like Sylar may be back to his old ways before the season ends. I'm hoping he starts with Maya and/or her brother.

Just what we need... ten episodes of Sylar killing people with emo tears and then calming himself down.

[Nerf]

One down, I hope he's got somthing brutal planned for the other wonder twin.

[Lakov_Sanite]

He'll tap that ass right before that sweet, sweet brain. 

[Riggswolfe]

He'll tap that ass right before that sweet, sweet brain. 

Please God I hope so. It's sad when I literally cheer at what is supposed to be a sad death scene.

This Episode wasn't bad. Peter is now getting added to the moron list. It was blatantly obvious that "Adam" freed the woman only so he had an excuse to shoot her. And what's with the tagline two heroes will fall? Here's my wishlist:

Maya (please!)
Suresh

And here's hoping that don't start using Claire's blood as a plot device to save other people besides HRG.

Also, is West about to leave the show? I finally warmed up to him when he helped HRG. And I like that Claire is finally saying "to hell with this."

[stray]

Somebody kill Sylar already! Damnit, he's a shitty villain, and I'm tired of looking at his ugly face.

[Tebonas]

At least the villains have brains (no pun at Sylar intended)! If you bring Suresh and Peter together in a room, they cancel out the intelligence of everybody else in the whole building with their collective antismart.

[Riggswolfe]

At least the villains have brains (no pun at Sylar intended)! If you bring Suresh and Peter together in a room, they cancel out the intelligence of everybody else in the whole building with their collective antismart.

And sadly, they were both my favorite characters in season 1.

[HaemishM]

I don't think Peter is stupid, he's just easily led because he's all too eager to help people. Though he hasn't convinced me, Adam has had 400 years to learn how to manipulate Peter, and we don't know all the conversation they had while Peter was locked up with him. Suresh has the same problem, way too trusting of what people say.

I hope they don't get rid of West, the show needs much more flying men. They've tragically underused Nathan's flying ability, as to me, it's just the greatest iconic power of them all. Maya needs to die, though. Needs to die so badly.

The setup for next week's show was great though. Hiro and Peter, probably the two most powerful (other than Sylar) squaring off. How awesome will that be? Hopefully, so much awesome my head explodes.

[sigil]

Hiro against Peter  is a rout for peter because  it's Hiro's sword against every other  power Peter has,  since time alteration seems to cancel out.

[CmdrSlack]

What I predict is that since Peter's power is to take on other powers, his blood will function like Adam's or Claire's. Since Suresh carries that antibody for the Shanti virus and Peter's blood is all special phoenix down blood, wham virus destroyed. I also predict an Adam decapitation because, well, this episode totally set it up.

I really don't see how a Hiro v. Peter matchup can end up in anything but a) Hiro getting utterly wtfpwned and killed (unlikely) or b) Peter and Hiro clashing for a bit, then having one of those gritted-tooth-revelation conversations and ultimately trying to stop Adam.

I just want to see Peter do some shit. He's the most powerful and they never use him in any really kickass way. He should have an asston of powers by now, so let's see 'em.

[stray]

I think Peter and Suresh have the most realistic characters out of all. I'd be in a daze, wondering wtf was going on all the time too.

Sylar, on the other hand, I don't get. Didn't get him last year either. His motivations for being such a prick are unclear (or not good enough for me), and that evil grin of his is pure camp.

[Mazakiel]

Sylar's excuse is that, pretty much, he's psycho.  Sociopath, technically, I think.  I know they seemed to me at least to really pile on all the indicators of a serial killer in the making on his origin part in the flashback episode of season 1. 

[stray]

Yeah, I understand that. It's still campy though. The rest of the show/characters have a pretty down to earth feel, while he's off playing some over the top creep out of a b horror film. The guy who plays Adam makes a more realistic sociopath.

[CmdrSlack]

Yeah, I understand that. It's still campy though. The rest of the show/characters have a pretty down to earth feel, while he's off playing some over the top creep out of a b horror film. The guy who plays Adam makes a more realistic sociopath.

Because his idea of saving the world is saving it from humanity by killing most of it?

[stray]

Because he doesn't have the stupid grin on his face.

Really, it's all about the grin.

Also, no matter what the outcome, I'll probably never care for Myah... Simply for not seeing how obviously bad "Gabriel" is. Stupid characters like that should die.

[CmdrSlack]

People like the stupid grin + stubble. I've been looking at that create-the-next-hero thing on the NBC site and it seems that Sylar is pretty much the template for mass appeal. Ugh.

[Velorath]

Hiro against Peter  is a rout for peter because  it's Hiro's sword against every other  power Peter has,  since time alteration seems to cancel out.

Hiro has done a pretty good job of learning how to control his powers, so in that respect I see him putting up a halfway decent fight against Peter

[Velorath]

I think Peter and Suresh have the most realistic characters out of all. I'd be in a daze, wondering wtf was going on all the time too.

Sylar, on the other hand, I don't get. Didn't get him last year either. His motivations for being such a prick are unclear (or not good enough for me), and that evil grin of his is pure camp.

The thing I dislike the most about Sylar is that somewhere along the line he seems to have absorbed the power of making everyone around him a fucking retard.  All the times he should have been killed, he's only survived due to the complete stupidity of people trying to capture him rather than outright killing him (Illusion woman wins the retard prize in this respect).

[Samwise]

Hiro has done a pretty good job of learning how to control his powers, so in that respect I see him putting up a halfway decent fight against Peter

I have been noticing that many of last season's heroes are getting really good at controlling their powers and in some cases doing new things with them, but Peter's still stuck at using the "level 1" version of each power.  So maybe that's what "balances" him out compared to the other heroes.

Case in point: if Parkman aimed his new mindfucking powers at Peter, I'm pretty sure Peter's mind would be thoroughly fucked.