Heroes (SPOILERS)

[Merusk]

Maybe he didn't know that Peter even had superpowers? He was confused about the other cheerleader before, after all.

This was my thinking as well.  Pete didn't exactly do anything "super" in front of him.  Dodged a couple of locker doors, told Claire to run and then proceeded to fall off a building and look dead.

[tazelbain]

That's my point.  All the others are starting to get control over their powers, except Peter, who fails around around like Screech. Lame.

[MuffinMan]

I guess in Peter's defense if you're always coming up with random powers temporarily while you're around someone else with them, you wouldn't really have the time to their use.

On that same note, wouldn't Peter have mimicked Sylar's powers during their fight. Maybe he wasn't close enough to him to do it.

[Tale]

IMDB is holding things close to the vest about Sylar's identity. He's not even listed in the cast credits, which is amazing. I think that means who the actor is will give something away. I'm betting on him being either Peter/Nathan's dad or long-lost thought dead brother.

extra-spoileriffic link - do not click or even mouseover, if you want Sylar to remain mysterious.

[HaemishM]

That's my point.  All the others are starting to get control over their powers, except Peter, who fails around around like Screech. Lame.

He may not even have known Syler had powers; he didn't see what was done to the cheerleader. He also may not have been able to understand what Syler's powers were in the short time they were in close proximity. He could mimic Claire's powers because hers are spontaneous, whereas Syler's takes effort.

[Reg]

When Sylar was telekinetically throwing stuff at Peter it looked to me like Peter was telekinetically fending them off. Was that just my imagination?

[Tale]

Just your imagination. He got hit by the first two objects and decided to run.

[Nevermore]

That's my point.  All the others are starting to get control over their powers, except Peter, who fails around around like Screech. Lame.

Peter used Isaac's power better than Isaac has so far.

[schild]

Peter has complete control over his powers. Did you see him pop his ankle and shit back into place after Claire left the scene? Peter is the ultimate hero in this show. He's also the most famous one. it's almost creepy to have watched him on the Gilmore Girls since he was in middle school. It's almost like he grew into Heroes.

[Jobu]

Hiro goes back in time, somehow learns he can't change the past like he wished, and gives the waitress six months of travelling around the world like she always wanted, to give her a perfect end to her already fated life.

Maybe?

[Merusk]

Did Peter touch Issac before he painted?  He grabbed Claire's hand as they were running, then was able to regen.  He was falling before his brother caught him, then he could fly.  I just don't recall any contact with Issac.

[schild]

 No, he doesn't need to touch. It's the mere presence of.

[Evangolis]

Close presence.  And Peter doesn't seem to realize that he has acquired powers until he uses them.

Syler didn't attack Peter because Syler can't sense powers; he is attacking his targets based on their locations and identity, which he got from the Doctor's not-so-secret info.

No cop and no Hiro this week, but perhaps they are just pushing a grand mid-season cliffhanger for all the characters.

Here are my unanswered questions ATM.

Mohinder has left home again, despite strong efforts to dissuade him; are the folks back home merely skeptics, or believers with a secret agenda?

Hiro and the waitress; can he save her?

They saved a cheerleader; was it the right one?

Peter was found lying in a huge pool of blood; what happens when the cops find that most of it is his?

Nathan tried to stop Peter from going to Texas; how will Nathan and Peter react when they both realize that Peter has every flavor of courage, and Nathan has none?

How clueless is Homeland Security about super powers; does anyone else remember the Monty Python line that followed a nuclear explosion, "Even the police began to take notice."?

HRG and company; secret agents for X, budding mastermind group, or just curious bystanders?

HRG's operations; how is this funded, and why is HRG in charge?

They've caught Syler; now what do you do with a ruthless telekinetic who can tear steel just by concentrating?

The cop seems like a nice guy and a dedicated cop; what happens if he gets heaved from the force and his wife isn't over his now ex-buddy?

The cop wants answers, and the radioactive widower is the only source he knows of; how far will the cop go to save Mr. Atomic, particularly now that the authorities have demonstrated just how utterly clueless they are?

Jessica appears any time she thinks Micah's health and happiness is threatened; what happens when she discovers that she is now the biggest threat to that?

On another front, I've heard that Heroes has been picked up for a second season.

[schild]

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about DL and Jessica/Whoever. I can't even be bothered to know their names most of the time. She's the weakest link on the show in terms of acting and well, yea, she just sucks time out of more interesting characters.

It would appear Hiro did not save the girl. There was the memorial thing up and the waitress at the restaraunt explicitly said Hiro disappeared shortly before the girl died.

Nathan will eventually, probably, become Peter's arch-nemesis. At which point they'll add some sort of shitty Blood is Thicker than Water bullshit to the show.

They're on a very thin line between awesome and campy. They need to start killing off people who don't have a very very specific purpose. Syler needs to escape and tear through some of the cast.

[Tale]

Here are my unanswered questions ATM.

One of mine: why are so many of the main characters connected with Mr Linderman?

[Merusk]

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about DL and Jessica/Whoever.

No.  Just based on the reactions from most of us those two weeks that focused almost exclusively on Jessica, I'd say you're not alone.  Micah is the best part of that trio, and he's too young and tied to mom & dad to be interesting.

Peter was found lying in a huge pool of blood; what happens when the cops find that most of it is his?

That was my question as well.  I have this dissapointing feeling they're going to play it out as 'small town cops + dead teenager + guy covered in blood = no forensic investigation'  so the cops can ignore the fact that Pete has none of the girl's blood on him.

[MrHat]

Brother to the rescue imo.

[Furiously]

Brother to the rescue imo.

HRG seems like the more likely rescue. Or Hiro.

[SnakeCharmer]

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about DL and Jessica/Whoever.

No.  Just based on the reactions from most of us those two weeks that focused almost exclusively on Jessica, I'd say you're not alone.  Micah is the best part of that trio, and he's too young and tied to mom & dad to be interesting.

Peter was found lying in a huge pool of blood; what happens when the cops find that most of it is his?

That was my question as well.  I have this dissapointing feeling they're going to play it out as 'small town cops + dead teenager + guy covered in blood = no forensic investigation'  so the cops can ignore the fact that Pete has none of the girl's blood on him.

Brother to the rescue, and history of mental illness.

[tazelbain]

FBI Lady also. Peter has plenty of "outs"

[Evangolis]

Yeah, Peter is way in the clear; my question is what do the police do when they follow the trail from Sylar's latest murder to where Peter was found?  Claire had to leave blood and/or tissue evidence at the original scene.  Locker doors ripped from their hinges without normal stress patterns? Vast quantities of blood without dead bodies to match?  Just how many impossibilities can the authorities ignore?

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It would appear Hiro did not save the girl. There was the memorial thing up and the waitress at the restaraunt explicitly said Hiro disappeared shortly before the girl died.

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They're on a very thin line between awesome and campy. They need to start killing off people who don't have a very very specific purpose. Syler needs to escape and tear through some of the cast.

Except that the woman who tells Ando about Hiro and the waitress clearly didn't connect him to the day of the waitress's death, but acted like Ando showed up alone that day, so there is a major discrepancy from the original timeline, suggesting other changes may be possible, or may have occurred.  Perhaps the 'Rift' Hiro mentioned to Peter will be expanded upon in this arc.

They are always going to walk that line between awesome and campy, like any good show that ties the fantastic and the mundane.

As to Sylar, I'm hoping that he is more than just evil or crazy. If those are the whole of his motivations, it would be a loss of a great source of possible dramatic tension.

[stray]

Yeah, Peter is way in the clear; my question is what do the police do when they follow the trail from Sylar's latest murder to where Peter was found?  Claire had to leave blood and/or tissue evidence at the original scene.  Locker doors ripped from their hinges without normal stress patterns? Vast quantities of blood without dead bodies to match?  Just how many impossibilities can the authorities ignore?

Maybe the G-Man gets that crazy dude to wipe the cops' minds.

But that's a BIG stretch, of course...

[edit]

On second thought...

Lol, that sucks. I apologize.  :-D

[Merusk]

Yeah, Pete has a lot of outs, but that wasn't what I was getting at.  I wanted to see what happens when they find all that blood's his, but he doesn't have a mark on him.  That's why I did the little equation thing, because I don't think they're even going to touch on that, which is dissapointing.

[tazelbain]

The same thing that happened when DHS found Radiation guy but no source for the radiation...

[HaemishM]

Lock him in a deep dark leadlined cell?

Yeah, Peter has a ton of outs, but Mr. Bennett (HRG) is not one of them. I think mimics are the kinds of heroes he doesn't care about because they are unclassifable.

As for why Peter used Issac's power better than Issac? Peter wasn't wasted to the gills when he did so, he was making a conscious action with the power. I wonder if he'd have Jessica's powers if Nikki is in charge?

I don't mind the Nikki/DL story, because it has the hotness of Ali Larter and I think she's doing a good acting job with the character. Are they weaker than Peter or Hiro? Sure, but not to the point where I want them gone.

[Hoax]

I think Peter might be serving jail time for an episode or three.  We have to catch up w/ Hiro/Ando/Charlie as well as DL/Jessica/Micah.  The only person with a big reason to rescue him from the authorities right now is Claire.

I dont mind the DL/Jessica/Micah thing because there are cool powers involved and I want to see Ando hook up w/ Nikki cuz that'd be funny as hell.

[SnakeCharmer]

How clueless is Homeland Security about super powers; does anyone else remember the Monty Python line that followed a nuclear explosion, "Even the police began to take notice."?

FBI is already involved.  Wouldnt be a stretch to say that they havent shared the information with the rest of the Federal Government.  IIRC, the FBI chick had said only 6 people knew the name Sylar.  How would that convo go anyway?  "Um, hello?  DHS?  Yes, this is the FBI.  We have news about an indestructable hottie cheerleader, a dude that can walk through walls, and a..."
<click>
"Hello?"

[Bunk]

Count me on the band wagon of actually liking Ali Larter's character. Not exactly sure why, but I do.

As with most shows that kill of characters on occasion, they always kill of the bit characters I like. I was thoroughly confinced Sylar was going to kill pheremone girl. He probably still will, just to piss me off.

[schild]

Heh. You know why shows kill characters you like? Because you like characters like Ali Larter's.

[Hoax]

Actually I think Eden dies long before Jessica/Nikki

[Tale]

There's a fansite theory that the cop (Matt Parkman) is in a different time from the other characters, as his path has never crossed with anyone else's.

But presuming he is in the same time, the cheerleader murder investigation would have to put him and FBI-Audrey in a room with prime suspect (prior to blood tests) Peter Petrelli. Peter would get Matt's ability to hear thoughts, and Matt would hear his. That could quickly tie Matt's knowledge of radioactive man to Peter's knowledge of the upcoming nuclear explosion.

Sylar is off the streets, so the story narrows to a New York manhunt for radioactive man, involving several heroes working co-operatively for the first time (plus they're in Nathan Petrelli's city, so he must be involved somehow). Oh and at some point Hiro turns up with the waitress, having saved her and staged her death. The heroes find radioactive man, save the world and realise this is their future.

Team Hero is formed. Then the cliffhanger where Sylar turns out not to really be asleep and something hints at Team Evil. End of season one.

Count me on the band wagon of actually liking Ali Larter's character. Not exactly sure why, but I do.

I do too. If nothing else, the acting is great. Nikki and Jessica, played by the same person without the aid of any costume change, carry themselves differently and seem like two different people.

[stray]

That Niki episode a couple of weeks back almost single handedly made me start hating the show.

Not necessarily because of Ali Larter though.

[Evangolis]

The real question for me is; what is the show about?

For Claire and the Petrelli's, it has been about being who you are in public.

For Mohinder, it is about embracing the inner world of secret knowledge, and turning away from the superficial mundane world.

For Niki/Jessica, DL, and Micah, it is about how they can be a family, or not.

For Matt, it isn't so clear, is it a story about his marriage, or about being who he is, or some combination of the two?

For Issac, it's about survival.

For Hiro, it seems to be about what it means to be a hero.  One of the most interesting possible outcomes for his arc would be to find that he can save the waitress, but chooses not to, because of the cost to innocent bystanders.


While it is easy to compare this to something like X-men, it lacks the core premise of the X-men, the tension between mundanes and mutants.  It needs some core premise to emerge at some point in the relatively near future, so that the core premise can link all the lesser arcs and conflicts.  That seems to me to be a place where Sylar and/or the HRG group could really be important.

[tazelbain]

Son of a Bitch!  Fucking Cliches.

[stray]

I need to rewatch it. Too many distractions.

What's the deal with Syler again? Is he trying to cure everyone?

I knew the waitress would be gone for good.

[edit] Nevermind. Got it.