Flarecore Leggings

[Xanthippe]

Should I spend the 600 to 900 gold on buying dark iron ore/cores/bloods to get revered faction with the Thorium Brotherhood, or are these legs going to be not worth having after BC comes out?

Anyone know if Blizzard has any plans to put new recipes on the Thorium Brotherhood guys?

[Chenghiz]

As good as they are, I'd just wait for the expansion. The gear being leaked from beta is looking mighty fine - for instance weapons around level 65 are already rivaling raid-quality drops.

[Malathor]

Expect the expansion gear to make just about everything, even naxx gear, obsolete within a couple of months. Don't shell out serious cash for gear now, save your pennies. If you really want to pick up some gear Xanthippe, hold your nose and drag yourself to one of our BWL runs instead. Those are pretty darn quick and painless for us these days;  and there, unlike MC, you are not in negative points. 

[Merusk]

Flarecore legs also cost such an insane amount of cash in materials after the faction work, I don't think they're worth it.

8 Mooncloth, 5 Firey Cores, 3 Lava Cores, 10 Essence of Fire and 4 Ironweb Spider silk.

On my server that's about 770 gold in materials if you buy them yourself.  120 or so if your guild provides the MC mats.  For 16FR, you may as well just wear your T1 pants or try for the skullsmoke pants of Vectus in Scholo.

[Typhon]

I remember reading a rumor/thread/post that crafting was being pumped up a bit with the expansion, so my guess is that better stuff will be coming from crafting - I think that you should save your money for now.

[SurfD]

a lot of it comes down to a few specific things:

1: From the sounds of things, you are intending to rep up to get the pattern, and then craft the pants yourself.  The question is, why?

- are you crafting the pants for yourself? or are you intending them for sale?
- If you intend to wear them,  you are going to spend a lot of money factioning up, and then a lot more money on the mats to make them, when in the end, they will be outdated pretty quickly once expantion comes out.  If you absolutely must have them, just get someone else to craft them.

- If you intend to sell them, it would depend quite alot on the relative age / developenmet of your server.  Not many people will be able to afford them, and most of the people who want them are going to be MC raiders.  If your server is primarily on MC and maybe early BWL, you might be able to sell some.

2: If you just want them for gear (Intend to wear), then I have to ask. Do you raid?  Are you capable of AQ 20? If you are capable of doing AQ 20, I wouldnt even bother with flarecore.  Ossirian drops Leggings of the Black Blizzard, which are much better, and probably more cost effective to obtain (not to mention the other great caster loot on his table)

[Xanthippe]

Expect the expansion gear to make just about everything, even naxx gear, obsolete within a couple of months. Don't shell out serious cash for gear now, save your pennies. If you really want to pick up some gear Xanthippe, hold your nose and drag yourself to one of our BWL runs instead. Those are pretty darn quick and painless for us these days;  and there, unlike MC, you are not in negative points. 

Eeep, you noticed!  I thought it was a secret! 

I figured I should make up the -1237465 points or whatever it is from the MC loot I picked up the first 2 times I went before actually going to BWL.  You know, get positive maybe?  That and I only raid about every two weeks.

I don't want flarecore leggings for myself; it's just that my current WoW jones is all about crafting (well, and alt-ing and bgs).  I guess I should just wait and see on the whole rep thing in general, except maybe getting the CC rep so I can sew herb bags. 

[Xanthippe]

a lot of it comes down to a few specific things:

1: From the sounds of things, you are intending to rep up to get the pattern, and then craft the pants yourself.  The question is, why?

- are you crafting the pants for yourself? or are you intending them for sale?
- If you intend to wear them,  you are going to spend a lot of money factioning up, and then a lot more money on the mats to make them, when in the end, they will be outdated pretty quickly once expantion comes out.  If you absolutely must have them, just get someone else to craft them.

- If you intend to sell them, it would depend quite alot on the relative age / developenmet of your server.  Not many people will be able to afford them, and most of the people who want them are going to be MC raiders.  If your server is primarily on MC and maybe early BWL, you might be able to sell some.

2: If you just want them for gear (Intend to wear), then I have to ask. Do you raid?  Are you capable of AQ 20? If you are capable of doing AQ 20, I wouldnt even bother with flarecore.  Ossirian drops Leggings of the Black Blizzard, which are much better, and probably more cost effective to obtain (not to mention the other great caster loot on his table)

Just to be a completist, I guess.  I don't really want to wear the pants myself; my priest is so far a pure BG priest.  Unlike Malathor, I hate healing people. I just like to do psychic scream in the middle of Dun Baldar.

I'm going to wait.  You guys have convinced me, thanks.

[Ironwood]

I'm Glad they convinced you - t'was a silly idea.


What I want to know is what the hell is your server economy like where you can get up to Thorium Bro for only 600-900 gold

I'm currently working towards exalted and it's cost me a fuck of a lot more than that.  (Tho the Dark Iron Plate is awesome.)

[Zetor]

I collected the mats and someone in a random uberguild crafted it for me for 10g.

I'd say it was worth it... due to timezones I can't raid (so I can't get anything better), and they're pretty darn good for warlocks (stamina + damage = luv). However, I'm not sure I'd get one made right now... let's just say things will become obsolete quick


-- Z.

[Merusk]

I'd say it was worth it... due to timezones I can't raid (so I can't get anything better), and they're pretty darn good for warlocks (stamina + damage = luv). However, I'm not sure I'd get one made right now... let's just say things will become obsolete quick

Bastard, you're in the Beta, aren't you?   This is exactly the reason I won't buy my Giantstalker's belt, despitie having the cash for it.  I'm at 6/8 pieces, I can 'feel' the boots are going to drop soon and we've seen 3 belts in the 6 months we've been doing MC.  Bt still, that 500g seems better spent elsewhere.

[Xanthippe]

What I want to know is what the hell is your server economy like where you can get up to Thorium Bro for only 600-900 gold

The pattern is awarded at Revered, not Exalted, and I'm already at Honored.
Since my priest is human (tailor >> pvper so not dwarf), I would need to turn in
(according to http://www.wowwiki.com/Thorium_Brotherhood)

2,190 Dark Iron Ores
or
55 Cores/Bloods

Bloods run ~18g although not frequently found
Cores run ~20g

Dark Iron Ore ~ 2.75/10 to 4.00/10

What's this stuff go for on your server?

Exalted. Hmm.  Sure you still want to do that? That's only worthwhile if Blizzard actually does something more with the Thorium Brotherhood.  What if it's a dead end?

[Ironwood]

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ.

Cores at 200g on my server.

I hate you.

:)

[Fraeg]

as an earlier poster mentioned.

don't bother shelling out cash with BC just around the corner, we saw it in EQ, we saw it in Daoc etc etc etc.

every;thing you have will be obsolete soon.

Many of the bigtime guilds are now selling tier 2 tier 3 items in an effort to raise as much cash as possible for their guild for the PVE rush when BC is released.  The idea being tier 2 and 3 stuff is going to be obsolete soon, so if they can sucker people into paying 2k gold for tier 3 warlock shoulders that 2k gold can then help the guild learn the new pve encounters (potions, repair bills, etc.)

Some guilds are also getting people tier 2 and 3 items for herbs,  i.e. give us mats for a few flask of titens, sure we will take you to get your new shiny purple foozle smacker... don't think too hard about what it will be worth at lvl 65 though.

so  /rambling off..... save you money now as there is probably a random green item in BC that is better

[bhodi]

There was some sort of meet/conference that a guildmate of mine went to a day or two ago, and he cornered a blizzard dev and chatted him up. When he mentioned they were doing naxx, and wondering if they'll continue to do it come expansion or level, for the best gear, the dev said: "Fuck Naxx. Go level and do the 5 or 10 man instances."

[Xanthippe]

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ.

Cores at 200g on my server.

I hate you.

:)

Another reason not to play Horde.   

(Learned my lesson with DAOC playing Midgard.  Should have played Albion.  Figured that out 2 years later.  Always better to play the popular realm when faced with a choice.)

I'm sorry.  (Boy, does that sound smary and sarcastic or what?  I'm not, really.)

[Phred]

You could do what horde on my server does. Use alliance mules to pick up cheap AH goods and transfer it over. Kind of bites that there's a 15% charge to move the money over but it still works out cheaper most times.

[Xanthippe]

This leads me to another question.  What about the Darkmoon Faire faction/rep/tickets?  The orb and amulet will be superceded, no doubt, by better items.  Will Blizzard also have better Darkmoon Faire rewards for 70s?  Will they allow people to turn in their orb/amulet for credit toward the new item?

I wonder how all this rep stuff is going to work.  Will it be tweaked so that the rep you now have will be worth having, or will it be replaced by new stuff?

[Merusk]

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ.

Cores at 200g on my server.

I hate you.

:)

Another reason not to play Horde.   

(Learned my lesson with DAOC playing Midgard.  Should have played Albion.  Figured that out 2 years later.  Always better to play the popular realm when faced with a choice.)

I'm sorry.  (Boy, does that sound smary and sarcastic or what?  I'm not, really.)

No, I'm Alliance and the cores are about the same price on my server.  What you quoted was what Essence of Fire costs me.

What server is that again?  :-D

[Xanthippe]

Korgath (population reported about 11,500 at
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php?sort=server)

Are you on European servers or something?  Why the huge disparity?

[caladein]

Owie. On both my servers (US-Daggerspine-Alliance and US-Wildhammer-Horde) Essences of Fire run around 8-9g. On Wildhamer, the prices are just a bit above Xanthippe's for Cores/Blood of the Mountain. Still insane to buy your way to Thorium Brotherhood rep, at least compared to Cenarion Circle.

[Merusk]

Korgath (population reported about 11,500 at
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php?sort=server)

Are you on European servers or something?  Why the huge disparity?

I'm on a release server, so there's tons of 60s & competition for mats is fierce.   There's also tons of farmers on top of those 60s to fight for all the non-instance mats.   Then you start to get into the AH bots, as well.  If there's mats on the Auction less than the 'desired' price, they'll get bought-up and relisted at a profit to the AH Botter.   For example, some guy has 105 ZG bijous, all listed at 15g a pop.

[Phred]

I'm on a release day server too. Cenarius, and currently cores are running about 40-55 g in our ah. And yes, there are a ton of 60's, and a ton of raiding guilds all competing heavily to sell stuff.

The guy selling bijous may be a mage. Unless they nerfed it, ice mages could solo farm the gator packs in ZG.

[Ironwood]

Good God, those are some insane prices.

Basically, I require 105 Cores to get to exalted and get my Dark Iron Boots.

So, 200g x 105 = Pulling out my Credit Card to IGE.

I stopped caring once I realised that. 

[Xanthippe]

My server was the recipient of transfers.  My guild transferred over from Shattered Hand (an original server), as did a few other large guilds.  Also some other "geared" (for lack of a better term) guilds came from other servers as well.  So although the server has been around since, I think, March, it's not a typical newish server.

Plenty of already geared 60s, lots of up-and-coming alts and alt 60s as well. 

Essence of Fire runs 4.5g to 7g on Korgath

Checking the prices on the horde pve server that I started on (Durotan) where I left a 53 rogue:

Fiery Core:  50-60g
Lava Core: 50g
Core Leather: 20g
No Blood of the Mountain
Essence of Fire: 8g

Checked prices on horde side Eldre'Thalas - Fiery Cores are about the same

[Ironwood]

 

[Xanthippe]

I know! Transfer to Korgath.  Get your exaltation, wait 6 months, transfer back.  Oh wait, that's 50 bucks plus 6 months, hmm.

[Typhon]

This leads me to another question.  What about the Darkmoon Faire faction/rep/tickets? 

!!!  I hadn't thought of this.     now i've got to decide if I want the trinket (it's good for feral druid, and I have CRAP).  dammit

[Xanthippe]

Fiery cores selling today for 15g each.

[Ironwood]

SHUT UP.  I HATE YOU.  I WISH YOU WERE GONE.

[caladein]

SHUT UP.  I HATE YOU.  I WISH YOU WERE GONE.

[hal]

have you considered anger management classes?  Was just a thought.

[Xanthippe]

I love it when you talk like that.

13g/each today.

[Ironwood]

Sheesh, you really get it easy.  I suppose the downside is that you're on such an old server. 

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Yeah, I can't figure out why that's a downside either. :(

Anyway, I've been thinking and, let's be honest, the minute the expansion comes out and people are 5-manning MC, I think I should be able to get satisfaction.  I'm still jealous as fuck tho.

[Xanthippe]

NDA lifted, now can anyone answer this please - Is Thorium Brotherhood rep desirable to have or is it now obsolete?