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Topic: 2006 World Cup Chock full o' spoilers thread (Read 135276 times)
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Heh. Love the "Pourquoi? Pourquoi?
I think he's saying "mais pourquoi?" ("but why?"). The Dutch clip shows the nipple tweak, but the French clip is from behind so the commentator is still trying to figure out why Zidane was offended. |
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Its impossible to see a nipple tweak from either angle, but zidane does tug on his jersey like hes telling him not to do that. I think the dude just pulled on his shirt. |
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« Last Edit: July 09, 2006, 02:55:04 PM by Threash »
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I don't think so. The first video (Dutch language) shows it was more of a feel-up than a shirt-pull and possibly a nipple tweak. Zidane was then heading back into play, but the Italian must have said something as he passed which made him turn around. All calculated to have the resulting effect and get Zidane off the field.
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I don't think so. The first video (Dutch language) shows it was more of a feel-up than a shirt-pull and possibly a nipple tweak. Zidane was then heading back into play, but the Italian must have said something as he passed which made him turn around. All calculated to have the resulting effect and get Zidane off the field.
Meh i see a shirt grab and then the other dudes head completely blocks it. If it had been a tweak i would expect the reaction to have been inmediate rather than after exchanging words. |
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What I'm thinking is that having ruffled Zidane with the pull/tweak and the initial exchange of words, Materazzi muttered something offensive like "and I bet you enjoyed it, faggot", or racist (Zidane aka Zin ad-Din Zidan is of Algerian descent).
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I was rooting for the French...at least it was a close game, which is really all you could have asked for.
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Disgraceful headbutt from Zidane. What the hell did Materazzi say to prompt that sort of reaction from somebody as level-headed as Zidane usually is? Pressure, emotions and and fatigue I suppose.
I can only guess it was something about Zidane's mother. Because otherwise, that was a completely shitty way to cap off a career. |
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Holy crap. What a thug. It makes the confrontation with Zidane seem less one-sided for sure. Regardless, Zidane should know better. I wouldn't say it cost them the game... the game was aching for France to finish it off way before he went walking. Sub in some more strikers to pile into the box, and they would have had one easy. Too bad Saha got suspended this game, him and Trezeguet both running around up there with Henry would have shut that game down. I blame Domenech for the loss, more than anything. Zidane's headbutt was just a strange fluke. I'm really just bemused with the contrast in Zidane's game. He opens the game up with the most cocky penalty kick and pulls it off. Pure class, and chuztpah. Then he goes and levels someone onto the pitch when his team needs every player they have, and it's looking like PKs. I hope Cannavora gets player of the tournament. He was the best player throughout, always on form, always involved. Really good stuff from him. I loved how he was totally cool and stonefaced during the penalties. His teammates would pump their arms after each one Italy nailed, but he just stood there waiting. Very resolute. Great stuff. |
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« Last Edit: July 10, 2006, 12:48:36 AM by Jobu »
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I hope Cannavora gets player of the tournament.
No, Zinedine has been awarded with the title "best player of the tournament". FIFA obviously thinks that headbutting players is OK, maybe that is what Frings should have done instead of just bitch slapping the argentinian? ;-) |
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« Last Edit: July 10, 2006, 03:13:27 AM by Jeff Kelly »
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While that was interesting that isn't proof of dick tbh. I'm sure you could find a similar video for almost every single defender at the pro level. |
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While that was interesting that isn't proof of dick tbh. I'm sure you could find a similar video for almost every single defender at the pro level. Although I agree that he's probably not the worst in terms of intent, he's definately the best in flair and execution. |
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I hope Cannavora gets player of the tournament.
No, Zinedine has been awarded with the title "best player of the tournament". FIFA obviously thinks that headbutting players is OK, maybe that is what Frings should have done instead of just bitch slapping the argentinian? ;-) Apparently the voting was done at half time. So.... LOL |
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Actually, the voting is usually done at half-time and the award made immediately following the cup presentation. From what I've read, the voting actually took place after the match this year.  It is shame that what's sanctioned is the reaction and not the provocation. But high-level football also implies the control of one's nerves.
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I hope Cannavora gets player of the tournament.
No, Zinedine has been awarded with the title "best player of the tournament". FIFA obviously thinks that headbutting players is OK, maybe that is what Frings should have done instead of just bitch slapping the argentinian? ;-) Wow. Even ignoring the headbutt, I don't think he was the best player throughout the tournament. He was practically invisible in the group stages, and just had one and a half amazing performances at the end. It's not fair to the other players who were stellar throughout. Like Cannovaro, Jens Lehmann, or maybe even Philip Lam. |
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What about Buffon? The guy was rock solid throughout giving up only the goal to France in the finals (and an own goal). No love for the keepers.
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What about Buffon? The guy was rock solid throughout giving up only the goal to France in the finals (and an own goal). No love for the keepers.
I did mention Lehman... But hell yeah, Buffon rocked. Ricardo did a great job between the posts too. The point being there are several players all over the pitch who I thought had a better tournament than Zidane. I guess even the guys voting at FIFA get star-struck and go for the mainstream, populist choices. |
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The people voting were the international press, and it's my presumption that they wanted to hand a "thank you and goodbye" to one of the greatest players of our time, and that their votes weren't for what Zidane did in the cup, good or bad. It's a somewhat underhanded move, but it wasn't a particularly special World Cup tournament anyhow. Fortunately, in four years time, most of us will have forgotten how much the whole thing annoyed us, and we'll get caught up in the euphoria again.
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Fortunately, in four years time, most of us will have forgotten how much the whole thing annoyed us, and we'll get caught up in the euphoria again. Isn't that the truth? I am going to try keep up with the EPL a bit more now as well- I was a big Man U fan until they got rid of Beckham. Not sure if I can root for them now unless C. Ronaldo goes away. I fucking hate that diving little bitch. I'm putting a bunch of money in a CD for 3 years and fully intend to be in South Africa for the 2010 cup, otherwise I would probably never go to anywhere in Africa so it is a win-win. How will you survive the brutal African summer heat? |
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I'm glad he got best player. I hope everyone who has anything to do with football is really, really pissed off about it and it festers for the next four years. World Cup 2010 should be a bloodbath.
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Fortunately, in four years time, most of us will have forgotten how much the whole thing annoyed us, and we'll get caught up in the euphoria again. Isn't that the truth? I am going to try keep up with the EPL a bit more now as well- I was a big Man U fan until they got rid of Beckham. Not sure if I can root for them now unless C. Ronaldo goes away. I fucking hate that diving little bitch. You could just cheer for Liverpool like real men.  Actually, I'm considering adding DirecTV's Sports Pack onto my service. For $12 a month, I get an asston of all sports channels, including all the regional Fox Sports channels (lots of regional baseball coverage), as well as Fox Sports Socceer Channel, which has about 240 EPL games, Itaian and German league games and some other stuff. |
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Yeah, I have had the soccer channel since it was Fox Sports World. I recently upgraded to make sure I had TVG as well; daddy needs his gamblin' fix  As for Liverpool- meh. I still like Scholes and Giggs and Keane and Tim Howard for Man U. Rooney I am not sure about yet. He seems douche-y, but he is a hell of a lot of fun to watch. Van Nistelrooy scored 3 goals when I saw him play in Seattle a couple of years ago, so he is ok too. I am still getting to know some of the lesser known guys through Winning Eleven 9 (X-box). Very cool game. Edited to respond to Righ- Like I needed another reason to fucking loathe the Italian team. Between them and the Portuguese they really uglied up this Cup badly. |
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Isn't that the truth? I am going to try keep up with the EPL a bit more now as well- I was a big Man U fan until they got rid of Beckham. Not sure if I can root for them now unless C. Ronaldo goes away. I fucking hate that diving little bitch.
Not excusing his diving (which seemed to have reached a peak at the World Cup), but he's still a fantastic and amazing player. I've been a Man. U fan for awhile... and frankly I hope we keep him. He's going to get tons of stick from opposition fans, but he's a huge talent. Hopefully with Fergusson back in charge of him, with teammates like Neville and Scholes they can put him back on track. I'd hate to see him tuck tail and run off to Real Madrid. And a hearty recommendation for Fox Soccer Channel. If the World Cup has done anything to pique your interest in soccer, it's pretty much the only way to follow what constitutes the "normal" soccer world between major tournaments. Club level games are often more exciting than World Cup matches. The FA Cup final with Liverpool and West Ham, for example... one of the best football matches I've seen all year. My only complaint about the channel is they don't show any games from La Liga at all. Which is a shame, since they seem to be drawing some great talent away from England lately(Robben, rumors of Fabregas, V.Nistelerooy, and maybe even C.Ronaldo). And the big EPL matches are always pay-per-view... which sucks. I don't wanna pay $25 to watch Liverpool take on Man U... but hey, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do. |
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If you pinch someone's nipple and call them a dirty terrorist, you deserve a headbut to the chest at the very least. Zidane for Prime Minister. Of Earth.
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I'm putting a bunch of money in a CD for 3 years and fully intend to be in South Africa for the 2010 cup, otherwise I would probably never go to anywhere in Africa so it is a win-win.
That's assuming that South Africa is able to actually host it. I keep thinking of Colombia '86. |
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I did. They've done the rounds of the work already.
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Well there are rumours that South Africa will lose the 2010 World Cup because they are years behind schedule. USA might host the 2010 cup instead because they are one of only a few countries that might be able to pull of the org in 4 years. Germany was also considered but they will not want to award one country with the chance to host a cup two times in a row.
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I wouldnt stress too much about any South AFrica wont be ready in time rumours - they always happen before any big sporting events, and we do have 4 years to go. Remember all the carryon about 6 weeks before the Athens olympics in 2004 because noone thought they would be ready in time. But they sorted it out and it went fine. The Africans will do great.
On a related note, gotta love the jingoism of the Australian press. After a good run in this world cup, the local press is already pushing for bids for hosting 2014 or 2018.
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