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Topic: 2006 World Cup Chock full o' spoilers thread (Read 134929 times)
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Good. Oceania has never hosted the cup, and should get preference over similarly capable bids. Also, Australia has more usable stadiums already in place than most candidates, although they are spaced quite far apart.
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USA might host the 2010 cup instead because they are one of only a few countries that might be able to pull of the org in 4 years. Mixed feelings about that. Be great to be able to attend the games, but our current popularity in the world coupled with our mediocre national team might make it far less fun. Gimme 12 years to wash the taste of GWB out of the world's mouth and for Freddie Adu to grow up  |
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USA might host the 2010 cup instead because they are one of only a few countries that might be able to pull of the org in 4 years. Mixed feelings about that. Be great to be able to attend the games, but our current popularity in the world coupled with our mediocre national team might make it far less fun. Gimme 12 years to wash the taste of GWB out of the world's mouth and for Freddie Adu to grow up Not to mention asking the world to trust our security enough to prevent an attack on an obvious terrorist target. Probably not going to happen for the next 20 years. |
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Following the fiasco through which the 2006 cup was given to Germany, FIFA have set up a process by which the cups are allocated to a continent on a rotating schedule, at least until 2014. The 2014 cup has been allocated to south America, with Brazil strong favourites as they have CONMEBOL support - they do have a problem with providing adequate stadia though, and as yet no announced plans to fix that. It would be a surprise if Brazil don't get it, and utterly astounding if South America don't get the tournament at this point. 2018 hasn't been allocated to a continent as yet, and you can find a pretty good wiki on the runners and riders here (countries with an announced interest are Australia, England, Mexico, Netherlands & Belgium (jointly), and Spain). The favourites at this point are England. Reasoning thus... Mexico last hosted too recently (1986) and are too close to S America which will host in 2014. Australia don't *currently* have sufficient stadia (too many of the big stadia are cricket/aussie-rules ovals - which are unlikely to be easy to pass off as football stadia to FIFA). Spain hosted too recently (1982). Netherlands and Belgium are jointly bidding, FIFA have a passionate hatred of the joint bid concept after the political debacle that preceded Korea/Japan (or was that Japan/Korea?), and they don't have sufficient large stadia. Also, of the European bids, much of the UEFA hierarchy seems to be leaning toward England simply on an 'it's their turn' basis. I would be mildly surprised if in 2018 the whole shebang doesn't roll up in either England or Australia (massive stadia building programme permitting). |
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« Last Edit: July 13, 2006, 09:02:13 AM by eldaec »
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I honestly can't see Australia building a bunch of stadiums just for the soccer. The game is just not that big or important here for governments to justify the massive spending on single-purpose venues that won't get a much reuse as ones that can fit all four of Cricket/Aussie Rules/Rugby/Soccer in them.
It'll happen here eventually, and it'll happen with the vast majority being the current venues that we have today. If not Australia in 2018, then probably 2024.
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Screw England. They've had it before. It's time to upgrade Firhill, Tannadice and Pittodrie parks and have it north of the border.
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Signe
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Maybe Australia can build a bunch for football and then use them for rugby and cricket after. They might even be big enough for beer and wet tee shirt contests! They won't go to waste.
I think a World Cup in Glasgow would be way too fun for my heart!
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If they give it any of the UK, I will do my level best to be there for at least some of the games.
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The next strange thing is the updated FIFA world rankings: Australia placed in the top 16 in the World Cup, but is now ranked 33rd in the world, behind many teams who did not even qualify for the tournament (although up nine places). Japan fell 31 places to 49th in the world despite being in the World Cup round of 32, and similarly Korea was dropped 27 places to 56th. Surely they have to drop this system.
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I think this is the new system, the top 10 sounded pretty good to me but yeah dropping S.Korea that far (if at all) smacks of utter retardation. At this point using the BCS would be an upgrade.
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They should just let journalists vote for who they think the best national teams are, and Blatter can nullify the votes later.
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eldaec
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The next strange thing is the updated FIFA world rankings: Australia placed in the top 16 in the World Cup, but is now ranked 33rd in the world, behind many teams who did not even qualify for the tournament (although up nine places). Japan fell 31 places to 49th in the world despite being in the World Cup round of 32, and similarly Korea was dropped 27 places to 56th. Surely they have to drop this system.
I don't think anyone really gives a crap about world rankings. They don't drive the seeding systems and so they don't really matter. |
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I don't think anyone really gives a crap about world rankings.
They don't drive the seeding systems and so they don't really matter.
Actually they do. The seeding for the 2006 World Cup tournament was derived from the world rankings at three fixed points from each of the prior three years as well as the results from the two prior World Cup tournaments. I'm not entirely sure how the seeding for the next one is being done, but I'm sure it will be along similar lines. |
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The seeding system gets rewritten each time from scratch according to whom fifa wants to see in the seed positions, at most world cups it has been based on a points system driven by the round each team reached at each of the last 3 world cups. Again, the points system changed each time.
The formula can pretty much be considered a bad joke.
Note how teams such as the US which everyone knows full well are overranked by the rankings *just* missed out on the seeded places by a couple of points. What a fortunate coincidence.
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I wasn't joking, a BCS-style system would be a million times better then the horseshit politics-driven FIFA favoritism bullshit we have now.
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I wasn't joking, a BCS-style system would be a million times better then the horseshit politics-driven FIFA favoritism bullshit we have now.
Well in terms of the seeding, it mostly works. It would be hard to argue with the 8 seeds this time around (bar Mexico). |
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HaemishM
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Yeah, that was some funny shit.
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I tied with Ivory Coast last night versus S&M in our 6-man world cup recreation using the ps2 game... Which put S&M through after Argentina lost all 3 of their games (it was really bad luck for him, but he also has France and Brazil so whatever). I'm very pissed off. But yeah I remember we were talking about this video game a bit somewhere, it does kick a great deal of ass when people become pro at defense as well as offense. If I could just get the AI to work a bit better on both sides of the ball w/ regards to offsides, turn auto-switch off completely and give a bit more visual indication on free-kicks it might be perfect. Oh the keeper always diving on the ball is annoying as shit too.
Somehow though the next version will break 2 things that were fine before and fix only one of those three problems. I give it two thumbs up for any console owning household that has a steady supply of people to play against. This is the most fun I've had with a sport's game since our 6-12 man NHL2002 tournaments.
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation.
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Azazel
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Maybe Australia can build a bunch for football and then use them for rugby and cricket after. They might even be big enough for beer and wet tee shirt contests! They won't go to waste.
Um, no. Too small. They can just use the existing stadium and add more low-level seating like they did for the Olympics. We don't need arenas for beer and wet t-shirts, though you might want to check out http://www.blokesworld.com/ |
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Azazel
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http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060713132152AAFSlyIlyrics Coup de Boule Attention c'est la danse du Coup de Boule! (Coup de boule, coup de boule) Coup de boule à droite (Coup de boule, coup de boule) Coup de boule à gauche (Coup de boule, coup de boule) Allez les bleus! Allez, Zidane il a frappé, Zidane il a tapé (Coup de boule!)* 4x Le rital, il a eu mal Zidane il a frappé l'Italien ne va pas bien Zidane il a tapé L'arbitre l'a vu à la télé Zidane il a frappé Mais la coupe on l'a ratée On a quand même bien rigolé Zidane il a frappé, Zidane il a tapé (Coup de boule!) 4x Trezeguet n'a pas joué Quand il a joué il a raté Il a tout fait capoté La coupe on l'a ratée Barthez n'a rien arreté C'est pourtant pas compliqué Les sponseurs sont tous fâchés Mais Chirac a bien parlé Zidane il a frappé, Zidane il a tapé (Coup de boule!) 4x Attention c'est la danse du Coup de Boule! (Coup de boule, coup de boule) Coup de boule à droite (Coup de boule, coup de boule) Coup de boule à gauche (Coup de boule, c =========================== Head Butt Watch out, it's the head butt dance Head butt, head butt Head butt on the right HB, HB HB on the left HB,HB Come on the Blues! Come on Zidane has hit, Zidane has struck HB.... The Iti was hurt Zidane has hit The Italian's not well Zidane has struck The ref saw it on tv Zidane has hit We lost the cup But we had a good laugh Zidane has hit, Zidane has struck HB.... Trezeguet didn't play When he played he messed up He wrecked it all We lost the cup Barthez didn't stop a thing Even though there was nothing hard The sponsors are all furious But Chirac spoke well Zidane hit, Zidane struck HB... Look out it's the head butt dance etc (as Before)
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The final spoiler: ... it was his sister ...link. |
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Zidane showed quite some restraint then given the cultural background he is from.
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eldaec
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Zidane showed quite some restraint then given the cultural background he is from.
Either that, or given the fact he's a grown-up, he really ought to act like one. Seriously, players sledge harder than that in Cricket, and yet even over a five day match, you don't get this kind of crap. In cricket, you get fined your match fee just for giving the umpire a funny look. Football needs some of that shit. People make way too many excuses for footballers. |
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But then Cricket players don't run around trash talking the sister of other players either. Lets say that more than one player should have acted grown up here, and I put the original blame squarely on the one that started it.
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But then Cricket players don't run around trash talking the sister of other players either.
You're kidding right? And it's not just the current Aussies who do it. Folks like Trueman and Boycott were rather famous for it too. |
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Ok, I stand corrected. What does a continental European know about cricket anyway. "The wife is fine, but the kids are retarded". Nice comeback. See thats how you are supposed to react to something like that. But having a sister myself, I know the feeling that you want to headbutt the shit out of the offending party. No excuse and I would never do it, but I am not all that surprised if somebody does.
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Cricket players have more time to think up snappy come-backs.
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