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Topic: 2006 World Cup Chock full o' spoilers thread (Read 135217 times)
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Azazel
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Half Time. 0-0.
I'm so glad that Brazil is playing that Fat Fuck Ronaldo tonight. He's fucked up everything that's come near him.
To be fair, he was truly great. OTOH, he's not all that anymore.
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Yeah Japan vs Croatia was boring.
I'm so happy that Australia has made it to half-time at nil all, but I have a continuing sense of dread about the fact we're playing Brazil. Go Guus!
Best moment was when Ronaldo was yellow carded for kicking the ball into the goal long after the whistle had already blown for offside. Followed closely by the Bresciano shot near the end of the half. The Aussies are damn fit from all that training - Viduka said the other day it felt like they were going to war, the amount of tough training they had to do. Can see why.
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« Last Edit: June 18, 2006, 10:03:01 AM by Tale »
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2-0 Brazil. Kewell blew it, had an open goal and blasted it over the top instead of tapping it in. He blew it a few other times, too. Brazil was always likely to win it, but we also lost it. And the referee was a bitch.
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Azazel
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I didn't find the ref to be especially bad. Problem was that despite all of the ability to open up the Brazilian defenders and create chances we still couldn't finish. That open goal from Kewell right after he came on was a shocker, but then again the Brazilians also had a few unlucky shots, especially right at the end.
Ah well, a Draw vs Croatia is all we need. I'm expecting a bloody game from that one.
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I recall reading that part of the reason why Ronaldo is going down hill soccer wise is that he's spending a lot of time gaming instead.  |
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The Australia game was just... uuuuugh. They absolutely need to do something about Viduka. I mean i understand he is a "world class striker" and all, but seriously, come on. People say Ronaldo is fat (which he is, lolz) but having watched Viduka dead-balling the play everytime the ball went anywhere near him, not being able to even turn quickly or let alone keep pace with Kewell to play a break away just makes me rage. So many wasted chanses  |
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Australia were intimidated, but that happens to supposedly better teams who face Brazil too. It's the result that everybody expected, however, and a two goal defeat to Brazil never looks too bad. Brazil still aren't looking as dangerous as they could be later.
Japan played too cautious a game, and Croatia just played a poor game with some good individual performances. Apparently they've been watching England.
France against Korea was interesting. Bad call on the second French goal, and the foolish fouls that resulted in cardings are going to cost them heavily in the next game. And while France were penalised by a goal by the poor call, the Koreans were just unlucky.
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and making childish jokes about Togo's coach's name, Otto Pfister.
Let me guess it has something to do with fists? Pfister is an old german dialect variety of baker btw. |
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Otto? Otto parts?
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The wife and I watched the Italian game. Now that's what the US is supposed to look like, competitive. I know little about soccer, but the ref just sucked it. There were way too many cards tossed in that game, especially reds. I was under the impression red cards were supposed to be rare? Not to him. I actually think that overall there's been a few too many cards in the games I've watched, but as the US announcers kept saying, FIFA wanted to crack down on tugging and pulling. I think they'll back off from that next time or hopefully in the next round. I'm really cheering for the Italian team against the Czechs, since even if the US is eliminated, I'll have to root for Italy because my wife is Italian.
I thought the Aussie/Brazil game was a good one. Ronaldo... this guy is supposed to be great? He certainly didn't look it there. I thought Adriano was a much better player in that game than either Ronaldo or Ronaldhino. The Aussies were a tough match.
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Quick group rundown:
A) This group is done but the Ecuador v Germany game for 1st place will be mighty interesting. Germany's defense can't afford to half-ass this game but many have predicted that Germany would get stronger as the tourny progressed and so far I believe that has born out. But now is the time for the German side to step up if they want me to believe they will be in the hunt for the championship.
B) What should have been a decent group turned into such shit. England's woeful play is eclipsed only by that of Sweden, whoever advances in 2nd will be a free win for the winner of Group A's match. Can England actually beat the 2nd place team from A though? I have no idea, when your only offense is Beckham hitting people in the head with well-struck balls you are in trouble. Have any of their other stars done anything? I may have been asleep as I haven't been able to remain awake through 90minutes of English play.
C) One of the two "groups of death" Argentina versus Netherlands should be the best game of the group phase. Deep down everyone expects them to choke at some point but while they play like this they are damn near unstoppable. What a shame that Africa's two top teams (Ghana and Ivory Coast) were both put in tremendously hard groups...
D) This group has truly underachieved but nobody has noticed due to so many other pathetic groups in this years world cup. Portugal has immense individual talent but can't play like a team to save their lives. I've seen a dog employ more strategy while taking a shit then this team has in their two games so far. It still may be enough to top a Jekyll and Hyde Mexican side. If they score first they are dangerous but if you put them down a goal it seems their confidence goes out the window. They are the antithesis of the solid fundamentally sound European squads. Whichever way first and second place turn out in this group I expect group C to sweep D in the round of 16. It is unfortunate really as both Mexico and Portugal have some very fun players to watch.
E) With the monster bias of American media coverage (have they managed to block a goal with some stupid graphic of the group E standings yet?) I dont see any reason to talk about this one.
F) Somehow Croatia will only have to play one decent game to advance, beat the socceroo's and its welcome to the round of eight. What an underperforming team we have here, even the Swiss managed to put some goals in against a weaker opponent. Japan is a huge dissapointment as well. I love their keeper but nothing else about them can even be called solid. The aussies deserve to advance they have played harder the other two but really it doesn't matter. First place out of group E should be able to handle their opponent without much trouble. Brazil may be headed for an upset though the current Brazil team sure looks like they could find a way to loose against a Czech or Italian side that brought their A game.
G) This is fun, we're down to the last game and France could be eliminated. It will not happen though I'm afraid my fellow France-haters. Togo just doesn't seem to have the talent needed to compete at this level. But suddenly South Korea versus Switzerland has become a surprising must-watch game. The winner should be able to book tickets to the round of 8 (a great accomplishment for either squad) after laying the smack down on whatevever team accidently comes in 2nd in group H... France versus Spain should be the type of game that preps one of those two teams to make a legitimate run for the finals. Or it will be a crappy game where one team falls into a win. Here's hoping for the former.
H) So Spain and some other guys (who might as well be named losers A, B & C) played a set of matches, and we didn't find anything out. Does anyone actually have a sense of how good Spain is? I sure as hell dont. Hopefully somebody pulls themselves out of the depths of mediocrity in a hurry. Any of these three teams if playing in top form should be able to legitmately challenge the Swiss/Korean winner for a shot at becoming the cinderella story of the tournament. That is unless somehow the US advances...
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« Last Edit: June 19, 2006, 09:04:15 AM by Hoax »
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England might actually end up losing to Sweden. That would put Sweden on 7 points, and England on 6. But the chances are England are going to top their miserable group, and they have deep pockets of talent, so they could upset the second place team from group A, thus Germany and Ecuador have to play to win. Unless Sweden and England pick their games up, Ecuador will get through the following round too.
More than anywhere else, the outcomes of groups C & D shouldn't matter. Nobody in group D stands much of a chance against Argentina or the Netherlands. If Portugal beats Mexico by two goals more than Angola beats Iran, Angola are going through in second place, so group D isn't a sure thing yet.
Group E is wide open, but watch Italy play for a scoreless draw. Probably an interesting game only for the fortunes of the USA and Ghana. Could see fireworks if Ghana are ahead at half-time though. Bizarre stuff could yet happen in group F (Brazil resting their talent lose to Japan, Australia win by three goals), but realistically it just comes down to the Australia vs Croatia game.
Group G is great, after France beats Togo, it'll look like second place in the group for them, the winner coming from the Switzerland vs Korea game. But wait... even if France wins, a draw between Switzerland and Korea will put them out on goal difference (and Switzerland will win the group). Watching now? The Ukraine just recovered some of the talent that brought them to this cup, making group H more of a threat. Spain are in great form, though they haven't really been tested by a solid midfield.
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Wow- big weekend. The Czech Ghana game was a joy to watch. I am seriously impressed with all the African teams this year; every one of them is dangerous enough to beat someone on a given day (haven't seen Tunisia yet, so I am not sure about them). Both teams lost a few players for their 3rd games due to yellow card accumulations. FIFA needs to tone that crap down a bit.
US v Italy. Wanted to vomit after Italy's goal. When the hell is the US central defense going to learn to mark people right in front of the goddamned goal?? Own goal was useful, but I think US had a nice chance to score regardless. The de Rossi red card was completely warranted- that was as ugly and deliberate an attempt to injure as I have seen recently. The Mastroeni red was a fucking joke- probably deserved a yellow, but a red was a complete and utter overreaction and an obvious attempt to even the sides up. The Pope 2nd yellow (red) was probably a good call too- Pope can't put himself into that situation when the referee is handing out cards like escort pimps on Las Vegas Blvd. Beasley's goal was a good call too- McBride was definitely offsides. Keller played a fantastic game in goal- he saved our ass a few times when the defense was too exhausted to cover any longer. I still can't figure out for the life of me why Arena didn't use his last sub- stick Eddie Johnson in for McBride with 10 minutes to go and let him and Beasley run circles around the tired Azzuri defense! I think we missed an opportunity to win the game there.
France got totally screwed against Korea. That 2nd goal was EASILY in- I called it with my naked eye live as it happened. Really disappointed to see Zidane get a 2nd yellow to keep him out of their next match (see above- FIFA needs to chill on the yellows by about 30%). He is a pleasure to watch, even if he is a step or 2 slower than his prime.
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Problem with Sweden is that all of our 3 world class players are under performing. If you've watched some of the Swedish games you've probably noticed that the team dominates the play, but can't seem to get the ball into the net. Zlatan Ibrahimovic which dominated the last World Cup is held back by what's called an injury, which apparently is true according to his most recent diagnosis. Henrik Larsson is also under performing, and even if Fredrik Ljungberg did score the last game and saved Sweden, he has been mediocre at best. Sweden hasn't lost to England in like 30 years or something like that, so the statically the odds are in Swedens favor. However, going by most recent performances of the both teams England has a clear advantage.
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@Righ: nice backup with some nifty possible outcomes. I agree with you about Group D but you can never be sure. Mexico scoring first is ALWAYS super dangerous (they score in bunches and play some great football with the lead) and Portugal has loads of talent if they actually remember this is a team game.
Spain sure played well against adversity in the first half of the Tunisia game. They just could not get anything on net and I saw no frustration or desperation at all in their play. It remained smart disciplined and deadly. I didn't see the second half but I'm guessing eventually they got rid of their jinx and blew the African side out. We could be looking at a contender here, a France v Spain game should really propel one of them towards the finals if that is how it plays out.
Really I would love to take the rest of this week off very interesting games all over, but instead I will only be catching the Group E games live on Thursday, woe is me and shit. I can't bring myself to think about the Sweden v England game. Zlatan Ibrahimovic's play alone makes me feel sick let alone the other 21 men who will be on the field esp that stork-like motherfucker Crouch, god I hate him.
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Crouch is getting rested, along with Gerrard. Owen and Rooney will start, with Hargreaves in front of the back 4 to push Lampard up.
I'm hoping this will wake the team up. Without Crouch around, they won't get distracted playing the long ball. Owen and Rooney will focus and force them to come up from the ground, through the midfield. You know... the midfield. Where all of Englands best players are. Fancy that, actually USING it.
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You know what I love about those videos. I love how he just rides tackles instead of diving. I've always respected the Brazilians to just keep slogging on through tackles where teams like Italy or Paraguay (hell... nearly any South American team) would just petulantly dive to the ground. Good show Brazil.
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That's not the man I saw. The man I saw must have eaten that man. This always happens. A stellar footballer from [insert Brazil or Argentina here] joins Barcelona FC, plays amazingly for 4 years, then turns into a tired mule of a man. Happened to Maradona, happened to this guy, we can only hope it won't happen to Ronaldinho. |
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England playing a little more as a team vs Sweden, however indvidually not that well (Rooney and maybe Carragher excepted so far) - and losing Owen is a fucking catastrophe. Twisted knee apparently.
Happliy Sweden are incapable of hitting a proper dead ball.
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Cole goal was a thing of beauty. Rooney has been spectacular. That's probably the last we'll see of Owen this World Cup - that looked bad. At least England have a handy excuse if they lose to Ecuador now.
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11 mins: Reasons Why Owen's Injury Might Not Be All Bad News For England No1: England now have a readymade excuse for their gubbing at the hands of Ecuador or Germany.
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http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/minbymin/0,,1788361,00.html64 min That's it, Edwards has finally turned into Pele. He's turning several Paraguay defenders inside and out down the right. Again another good deep cross, again some last-ditch defending from Paraguay. “Kurt Zimmerman is right,” says Kenito de Culpo. “That little pile is actually Frylock in a Mexican wrestler's mask. Viva Aqua Teen Hunger Force! Viva Mexico! Viva Zimmerman! Help me.” Help you?
:-D Thanks for the reminder Tale, real shame that Paraguay scored. Can't take anything away from Sancho though he played great in the Soca Warrior's first two games.
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2-2
At this point I have no idea what Fat Frank is actually for. Playing 4-3-2 probably isn't a good strategy.
Ashley Cole really needs to learn to defend.
Hargreaves, Terry, and Carragher did well.
Thank heavens for Steven Fucking Gerrard.
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Two fine goals for England. Sorry Sweden, two crap goals for Sweden. Comedy defense, and how do you play a five man midfield and get dominated by the Swedes? Can these guys really pull it off against Ecuador? I have to say, I actually have faith in a Germany win next round against Sweden. .
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I don't think you can count Frank Lampard as a midfielder. Or a footballer. That was a four man midfield.
Unless you are counting Steven Gerrard twice.
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This just in from Wife News : English Commentators Suck Ass.  |
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This just in from Wife News : English ITV Commentators sports programmes Suck Ass in every imaginable way. Fixed that. imo it's not sky or other pay-tv outfits who should be banned from listed sporting events, it's ITV. (adverts in the middle of a grand prix ffs etc) TV on mute + Radio 5 commentary ftw. |
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GOD DAMN ASHLEY COLE!!!
He spent most of the match passing to the Swedes, or fluffing crosses across the box.
Then when it really counts, when a dangerous ball bounces into the middle of the box, he decides to take several steps away from the ball and hide behind Robinson's shoulder, lest the ball scuff his shiny new head. And Larsson decided, well shit... I can't let such a fine gift go untaken. WHAMO.
Joe Cole's volley was incredible. I could watch that all day.
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American commentators suck ass even harder. They should get Murray Walker to commentate. At least that would be a good laugh.
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As I assume it is being treated over there like Barbaro was over here with 15 minute updates, what's the word on Owen?
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