SOE to Publish Vanguard

[Margalis]

Certain dungeons not having maps would be kind of cool. An entire game? Not so much.

[Yoshimaru]

The crafting is fairly interesting... and that's the only positive thing I can say

Heh, did you just copy and paste that from a 4 year old thread about Horizons?

I'm hoping Vanguard turns out a little better...

[Falconeer]

Gotta remember the bad old days before EQ even had in-game maps. I used to have a whole 3 ring binder notebook stuffed with recepies, maps, ore pharming locations, etc. That is what these guys want back!

Yeah, that's it. Stupid or not, lots of people are into memorabilia, revival, collectionism.
There's nothing bad in wanting the good ol' times back.
Lots like it old, no matter how user-friendly it is. And I am not talking about videogames here, but that applies anyway.
It's an emo thing. :)

[schild]

Here's the thing, Vanguard isn't for me. I rag on it a lot, but simply put, it's not my cup of tea. Odds are Sigil doesn't want me to play it and ya know, I really have no interest in playing it after what I've read.

I'd hate to meet anyone who it's FOR though. Ewwww. Mountain Dew and Cheetohs.

[Falconeer]

My point is just that I completely understand why some people can't wait for it and why they want (or just think they want) it so bad.
I just don't think they are enough to make Vanguard a profitable game (given the apparent high cost of it).

Of course there are lots of people who buy old cars. But there's a reason if those once mass produced models are now out of production.
Investing BIG money to start mass produce the Ford Gran Torino again could be a financial mistake. No matter how craved it is by nostalgics and enthusiasts.
They are simply not enough to justify mass production.

I think the only problem with Vanguard is its (or Brad's) ambition. It wouldn't gather so much laughter if it weren't so amibitious and somewhat arrogant.

[Numtini]

I should be part of the Vanguard target market. I find WOW dull. I like to group and I miss the sense of adventure and danger of EQ. I don't like the direction games have gone in. They may be more pleasurable from minute to minute, but to me they lack the peak moments that I got in the past.

But you can't get that back. Even if you understand that the pain had some payoff in the past, it's still pain. I tried to go back to FFXI, which really has that entire old school thing, and it was just impossible to be dealing with it when I had other options.

I can see why people think they want to play Vanguard. But actually playing it is going to be something else.

[Falconeer]

I can see why people think they want to play Vanguard. But actually playing it is going to be something else.

Yes, agreed.
Hence, the big financial miscalculation.

[Modern Angel]

You know what? Good. Get these fuckers out of the other MMOGs so they never have to think of catering to the bad old days again since the handful of uber catass retards worldwide will be concentrated in McQuaid's asylum.

[Azazel]

I have to agree, I don't want to play the hideous thing that Vanguard seems to be, and I do enjoy laughing at it and the fanbois, but there are enough of those annoying fuckers stinking up various other games' forums that I really would like VG to be moderately successful so that it vaccums the pain2win self-flagellation crowd out and away from games like WoW, (the current iteration of) EQ1, Warhammer, Lord of the Rings, Conan and anything else that looks interesting. Plus, I imagine it'll be such a trainwreck that it'll be loved by all here as we watch from the rafters.

I can't wait for the release!

[Yoshimaru]

Darkfall Fanbois > VG fanbois

[damijin]

Darkfall Fanbois > VG fanbois

Isn't Darkfall that religion where forum users worship a belief in a game that never existed?

[schild]

Darkfall Fanbois > VG fanbois

Isn't Darkfall that religion where forum users worship a belief in a game that never existed?

No, Darkfall is the other side of the Vanguard billing system.

[Yoshimaru]

Darkfall Fanbois > VG fanbois

Isn't Darkfall that religion where forum users worship a belief in a game that never existed?

They're just taking their time to make it perfect for release!!1! They dont have time to give us updates or do beta!1 /fanboi

[DataGod]

Holy crapoli....

I posted 2 times and the fanbois had 118 responses...

Test: Vanguard Fanboi Tenacity: A+

Test Vanguard Forum members Penchant for Self Flaggellation: A+

Heh my last post I informed them the thread was actually a test....yeesh cant wait for the responses to that one..

[WayAbvPar]

Hehe. We have had a couple of them wander over here to defend their catasstastic honor too. They are definitely a special breed. And one that shouldn't breed, for that matter.

[Nija]

C:\Games\Vanguard>dir /s

...

     Total Files Listed:
            5315 File(s) 22,458,371,516 bytes
             140 Dir(s)  27,580,272,640 bytes free

C:\Games\Vanguard>

What the fuck are they doing?

[MisterNoisy]

C:\Games\Vanguard>dir /s

...

     Total Files Listed:
            5315 File(s) 22,458,371,516 bytes
             140 Dir(s)  27,580,272,640 bytes free

C:\Games\Vanguard>

What the fuck are they doing?

To properly prepare the players for the game itself, they should limit distribution to digital only, so the fuckers get their first ding-gratz only after a couple of days of catassing Fileplanet.

[Yegolev]

Hmm, that's almost enough for me to check it out myself, Nija.  I love a train wreck.

I still have all of those Horizons mp3 files on disk.  Could be a similar approach with Vanguard.

To properly prepare the players for the game itself, they should limit distribution to digital only, so the fuckers get their first ding-gratz only after a couple of days of catassing Fileplanet.

They will need to debuff a Fileplanet server before starting the download.

[WayAbvPar]

C:\Games\Vanguard>dir /s

...

     Total Files Listed:
            5315 File(s) 22,458,371,516 bytes
             140 Dir(s)  27,580,272,640 bytes free

C:\Games\Vanguard>

What the fuck are they doing?

To properly prepare the players for the game itself, they should limit distribution to digital only, so the fuckers get their first ding-gratz only after a couple of days of catassing Fileplanet.

 :-D :-D :-D :-D

[Yegolev]

I should be part of the Vanguard target market. I find WOW dull. I like to group and I miss the sense of adventure and danger of EQ. I don't like the direction games have gone in. They may be more pleasurable from minute to minute, but to me they lack the peak moments that I got in the past.

You sound like someone who is ready to try EVE.

[Nija]

Hmm, that's almost enough for me to check it out myself, Nija.  I love a train wreck.

Well, if you want to play it this weekend you should start downloading it now. Took me 3 days and I pull 900 kps from my news server. Of course the fancy SOE front end doesn't tell you your download speed, but it wasn't anywhere near my max.

[Yegolev]

The fuck?  Torrent?

[Signe]

I just left it to dl when I went to bed and it was all done in the morning.  That's how I download most stuff.

[Sky]

I just left it to dl when I went to bed and it was all done in the morning.  That's how I download most stuff.

Ahh...santa's elves.

[SnakeCharmer]

ugh.  some old friend from sw:g are gearing up for this game, and i just can't bring myself to get even remotely interested in it.

[Numtini]

I should be part of the Vanguard target market. I find WOW dull. I like to group and I miss the sense of adventure and danger of EQ. I don't like the direction games have gone in. They may be more pleasurable from minute to minute, but to me they lack the peak moments that I got in the past.

You sound like someone who is ready to try EVE.

I've played Eve now and again. I actually really like the game, but I didn't have the time to put in for those long fleet actions before grad school and I certainly don't now.

[schild]

The guy who started this thread hasn't posted or visited since. Just saying.

[Venkman]

I just left it to dl when I went to bed and it was all done in the morning.  That's how I download most stuff.

Ahh...santa's elves.

It's sad really. Through every bit of tech I've bought into, for every new speed boost I can eke from my ISP, for every new tier of bandwidth they unlock, I'm still downloading patches and games overnight. We need a quantum leap on bandwidth so vast that developers can't match by quintafuqtupling their data.

VG beta, meh. I'll d/l someday.

Gotta remember the bad old days before EQ even had in-game maps. I used to have a whole 3 ring binder notebook stuffed with recepies, maps, ore pharming locations, etc. That is what these guys want back!

Agreed. But it doesn't make the game harder. It just allows for emergent behavior they could potentially own. Look at all those map sites for WoW and EQ2, games that have most of the maps in the game (though I'm as guilty as the next former fanboi).

People don't want the game to be harder. They want to be able to personalize the experience a bit more and get recognized for it. WoW and GW offer that mostly within the game experience itself, traditional style, badges won by who's grinded the most, and through their wholly incomplete but near-infinitely scalable UI. VG is attempting to appeal more to the harder-core Explorer type, at least until someone like Muse comes along and just EQAtlas's the whole thing in beta.

[Nija]

I just left it to dl when I went to bed and it was all done in the morning.  That's how I download most stuff.

Yeah, that's what I normally do - and like I said my normal downloads go at around 900 kps... But I guess this week they let in a big batch of people to the beta so their fileservers / bandwidth is taxed.

[Signe]

The guy who started this thread hasn't posted or visited since. Just saying.

We don't need him.  We have us.

[WindupAtheist]

Now that Sigil/MS/SOE/WTFEVER has won over the hordes of F13 with their awesome mole, they're sure to be a success!



DAMN YOU MCQUAID!  DAMN YOU!

[Yoshimaru]

Certain dungeons not having maps would be kind of cool. An entire game? Not so much.

DAoC was like that for much of it's beginning years... You had to use their fold out map that came with the game.

[Simond]

ugh.  some old friend from sw:g are gearing up for this game...

Have they previously shown signs of being functionally unable to learn from prior experiences?

Seriously, there are ex-SWG players looking forward to a game built by Verant/Sigil and published by SOE?

[Endie]

Hehe. We have had a couple of them wander over here to defend their catasstastic honor too. They are definitely a special breed. And one that shouldn't breed, for that matter.

Shortwood posted for provocation over there, and Thosor Dow posted here for provocation.  Geddit?

Both worked.

[Signe]

They should take out their aggressions on Uwe Boll.