schild
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Yea, it's not a rumor. I already confirmed it. Discuss, or something.
Edit: I'm not posting sources or anything, but let's just say it's probably not a secret at SOE or even GDC by now.
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Furiously
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WOW.
errr - edit - I dont mean World of Warcraft.
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Gutboy Barrelhouse
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The end times are here, rats in the cornfield.....and their HIS!!!
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HaemishM
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I sure hope he goes somewhere with money enough to pull off some of the PVP shit he's talked about.
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WindupAtheist
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He never fit in there anyway. Wonder where he's going. Somewhere under the NCSoft umbrella? Some kooky indie developer? Blizzard? (The hairdresser class in Starcraft Online builds COMMUNITY!) Or maybe he's freaked out and is running off to climb Everest.
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Lantyssa
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Finally he dumped them. Good luck at the new place, Raph!
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Soln
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the opportunity for evil is just delicious
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Raph off the leash woo!
Good luck to you Raph, please keep us up to date!
[Edit] I wish I was at GDC all the more now :-(
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Furiously
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He never fit in there anyway. Wonder where he's going. Somewhere under the NCSoft umbrella? Some kooky indie developer? Blizzard? (The hairdresser class in Starcraft Online builds COMMUNITY!) Or maybe he's freaked out and is running off to climb Everest.
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Soln
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He never fit in there anyway. Wonder where he's going. Somewhere under the NCSoft umbrella? Some kooky indie developer? Blizzard? (The hairdresser class in Starcraft Online builds COMMUNITY!) Or maybe he's freaked out and is running off to climb Everest.
Back to UO!!!!A hundred thousand bloggers just took flight.... |
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Glad to hear it. I hope he lands somewhere less soulless. I don't always agree with his ideas, but at least he isn't afraid to discuss them with the players.
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We need a 'rats leaving the sinking ship' emoticon.
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Ironwood
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Oh God. The wheel turns again and we're going to build up a 'next saviour' off this crackpots back and when it fucks up YET AGAIN, we're gonna make another 200 page thread about it.
Call me again in Ten Years.
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« Last Edit: March 23, 2006, 01:45:17 PM by Ironwood »
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Lantyssa
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A Saviour? Not for me. I do like a lot of what Raph does, but I would like to see him tempered by someone that can nurture his good ideas and cull the impractical ones.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Psychopyro80
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Interresting. Can't say I didn't see it coming though.
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Hoax
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Just do something that has some level of pvp in mind from the ground up, and no established IP behind it and I'll at least add it to the sig... :-D
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Malathor
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Just do something that has some level of pvp in mind from the ground up
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Trippy
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Hmm...BioWare, Austin Studio, other ex-SWG/UO people already there...
Anyway, good for Raph, now maybe he'll get another chance to put some of his newer ideas into practice. I always felt that the Chief Creative Officer position was a dead end position at SOE since it was Brad who first occupied it and he didn't do anything of note while in that position that I'm aware of. If he's not going to BioWare or somewhere like NCSoft I would love to see him and Warren Spector get together and make a game.
Edit: fixed typo
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Issele
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schild
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I like my post more.
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Margalis
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Yes he was a bad fit.
One of the biggest problems with SWG was Raph being in charge of it, but that is not a knock of Raph. It's like getting a catcher to play shortstop.
Raph is good at certain things, an action-oriented sci-fi game based on Star Wars isn't one of them. Sims Online was the (or a) game for Raph.
Anyway best of luck to Raph in the future.
It's funny, I was about to write that SOE and Turbine are both hurting now, then I was going to write that it seems WoW is sinking it's competitors. But I don't think that's a good analysis. My analysis is simpler: neither SOE or Turbine has made a great game in a long time. (Turbine hasn't even made a good game in a long time) Too much money spent on projects that don't seem very good - not a formula for success.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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NCsoft is my bet, working with Lum.
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Trippy
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NCsoft is my bet, working with Lum.
Wouldn't that be like matter and anti-matter colliding? |
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HaemishM
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I would lean more towards Bioware Austin, since he's worked with both Rich Vogel and Gordon Walton.
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As long as he doesn't screw up the baby Jesus they have in the oven at the new BioWare studio, sounds good.
(No, that's not really a knock against Raph.)
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Toast
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Good luck to Raph.
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Issele
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I like my post more.
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Furiously
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I bet he goes to play guitar with winger.
No - not that winger.
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Abagadro
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I wonder if he has a nasty non-compete to work around. I don't know how prevelant those are in this industry at that level.
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Soln
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I wonder if he has a nasty non-compete to work around. I don't know how prevelant those are in this industry at that level.
You're probably right. Thus the cooling off period. |
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Trippy
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I wonder if he has a nasty non-compete to work around. I don't know how prevelant those are in this industry at that level.
You're probably right. Thus the cooling off period. That level of a non-compete is certainly not enforceable in California -- California employers cannot restrict the livelihood of their current or former employees. Raph's livelihood is making games/MMOs so there's no way that can be enforced here. |
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Lantyssa
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As his contract was up I doubt there could be an enforcable non-compete agreement anyways, short of paying him not to work.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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sinij
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I sure hope he goes somewhere with money enough to pull off some of the PVP shit he's talked about.
AHAHAHA. Ralph is a raging carebear, whatever PvP he can come up with will be drowned in a sea of PvP switches and consent-only limitations. |
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HaemishM
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I sure hope he goes somewhere with money enough to pull off some of the PVP shit he's talked about.
AHAHAHA. Ralph is a raging carebear, whatever PvP he can come up with will be drowned in a sea of PvP switches and consent-only limitations. News Flash - Consent only PVP is the only kind that's going to get enough subscribers to justify the kind of development budget it would need to be made in the first place. Also, I like consensual PVP. |
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sinij
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Newsflash – consent should starts when you log in! Do you need a safety label ‘Contents of this package might result in you getting repeatedly PKed?’. Enough with cloning dead horse aka DikuMUD, if PvP is not your thing there are PLENTY of alternatives. You want safe game – design one and forget about PvP. You want to have PvP game – do it properly. Switch/consent PvP is like having sex with your sister, while it might be occasionally enjoyable you know its not how things should be done and such relationship has no future.
Haemish, lets not pull WUA here and finally let go of 99. MMOGs moved on, there is absolutely no reason to talk about consent and PvP in mmogs when it is long since realized that both cannot coexist.
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Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end.
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HaemishM
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World of Warcraft proves otherwise.
The PVP game you speak of is niche and always will be. The mass market does not buy it and never will. That is why WoW has as many people as it does and Shadowbane has as many people as it does.
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