All things EVE

[Yegolev]

The selection of drones in the Verge Vendor market seems small, maybe I was expecting some Gallente-specific drones since, you know, there's a Gallente drone skill.  Anyone have any suggestions?  Apparently I only have room for one drone in my Navitas (5m³), and I would really like to have the drone do the shooting so that I can put two mining lasers online at once.  Then again, I guess I could just warp to the station at first sign of target lock... maybe I just need to invest in storage cans.  Decisions, decisions.

[Merusk]

The race-specific drone skills require you to get up to Drones V to use them.  That's a long-term investment thing, like most EVE skills.  (Training to V would take 8 more days on my char and I'm already at III.) Just pick-up Drones and level it to III.  Each level lets you control one drone of the light or medium variety. (Heavies require Drones V as well)  Then if you get serious, head into Drones V and pickup the special drones and skills that are allowed by it.

I'd heard most folks use mining drones as opposed to going your route, where the drones do the fighting.  Not sure why that is, but mining drones just required Drones I and Mining II if you want to try that route as well.

[NiX]

I made a room for us EvE people on the F13 TeamSpeak server. So, if you want to hop on just grab the TeamSpeak client from here. Use this connection info to get on the server:

Server: 209.59.137.153:7654
Pass: catass2victory

I can register you when I'm on so you can login and .. stuff.

[Raging Turtle]

After mucking around for a bit in the trial, I've finally subscribed.

Name is Coyote X, Minmater, although I'm currently training Caldari ships because the Minmater ships look like ass.  Will join the F13 corp if I can find it 

Interested in doing the bounty hunter thing, if I ever figure out how that works in this game.

Edit:  The F13 Corp is 29 jumps away.  Shibail! 

[tazelbain]

Unintalled.  I like the skill system, the rest is crap.

[gimpyone]

After mucking around for a bit in the trial, I've finally subscribed.

Name is Coyote X, Minmater, although I'm currently training Caldari ships because the Minmater ships look like ass.  Will join the F13 corp if I can find it 

Interested in doing the bounty hunter thing, if I ever figure out how that works in this game.

Edit:  The F13 Corp is 29 jumps away.  Shibail! 

there's a minmatar office in onga vii imperial armants factory.

[Megrim]

After mucking around for a bit in the trial, I've finally subscribed.

Name is Coyote X, Minmater, although I'm currently training Caldari ships because the Minmater ships look like ass.  Will join the F13 corp if I can find it 

Interested in doing the bounty hunter thing, if I ever figure out how that works in this game.

Edit:  The F13 Corp is 29 jumps away.  Shibail! 

The irony of this situation is that currently, while being Caldari i'm training Minmatar ships because they look like the Reaver ships from Serenity.  :-D

[JoeTF]

God fucking damn it!
Everywhere I turn to there is EVE. On every bloody forums, even here.

Erm...if you're in a Frigate, even an interceptor....how can you possibly have the firepower to take out cruisers and bigger? I thought they had tons and tons of shield and hull to chew through.

Thats no longer the case:(
With signature painters, every noob battleship can enlarge your sig to the size of motherfucking planet and kill you with one bloody salvo. Any selfrespecting gate camping team will have several ships (which means several $#%^&@$ signature painters, aaargh!), which means even with 5 mln SP in navigation and fastest frigate available, you won't be able to get through.

Suck, I want me double mic raven/rupture/BC:D

[5150]

Well I resubed my account (last played a year back for a month or so and before that 3 months at launch)

The new loot rules are nice in that you can vapourise the little shits that steal your loot/ore - on the downside there really needs to be a timer or something so you dont get loads of can left lying around lagging space up if the 'owner' doesnt want them.

I have to admit to being pissed that CCP removed all the static loot cans and rat spawns from the safer sectors - I have a bunch of stuff bookmarked (like ruined stations with floating casks protected by NPC rats) that just arent there anymore - all this does is push the NPC hunters into the high sec belts competing over the few and far between spawns or down into unsafer space where the newbie just won't survive against the player rats. Not a particularly good move IMO.

I wanted to try out one of those new mining barges, but the skill needs industry 5 which is like 5 days for my to train - instantly remembered one of the reasons I left the game previously - they really should allow you to unlearn or remove skills somehow, the clone I need to cover all my skill points is stupidly expensive and alot of the skills I really dont need and with hindsight wouldnt have bothered with if I knew then what I know now.

[Merusk]

Define 'stupidly expensive.'  Even at 3.2 million skillpoints (which takes a while to get to, after 4 1/2 months active skill training I'm only at 2.7 million ) a clone only costs 262k each time, and you only need to replace it if you get podded. With negotiations, connections and social at level 3 it's easy to get the cash in one or two level 2 missions just from the payout, much less the loot I gather from the NPC rats.  (level 2's require cruisers, which are fairly easy to get up to and use)

Now, replacing ship components and implants.. THAT I can see bitching about.  Any mission into .4 or lower I'm very nervous now, since I just plugged-in my first implant, which will cost me 2mil if I'm podded on top of ship and component replacements.

[Yegolev]

Now, replacing ship components and implants.. THAT I can see bitching about.  Any mission into .4 or lower I'm very nervous now, since I just plugged-in my first implant, which will cost me 2mil if I'm podded on top of ship and component replacements.

This is what is most off-putting about venturing into lowsec space for me... other than the fact I only have two shit-can frigates.  With the threat of gatecampers and the palty insurance options, I think I am going to end up staying in empire space for some time.  This is fine with me for now, since I am actually pulling in OK-to-me money from mining plagiocite.  I have plenty of room for growth before I feel the need to mine in lowsec.

What I ended up doing about the stray pirates while mining was buying an Atron and rigging it up with two small hybrid guns, two overdrive injectors, a civilian afterburner and a ECM module I found somewhere.  I fitted my Navitas with two mining lasers and a mining drone, plus two cargo expansions.  When I get targeted in my Navitas, I warp to the station and get the Atron.  Inconvenient, sure, but I don't lose my Navitas, or more importantly the mining lasers.  Each mining laser cost more than the ship they are fitted to.  The drone... well sometimes you can find drones just sitting around in space. =)

[Sky]

What happens when your warp gets jammed by actual decent pirates? 

Lowsec space scares me but will be fun when I get a few million stashed away. The cost right now keeps me away. I don't mind risking all when it's fairly easy to replace, like in UO. As long as the fargers don't podkill you, that's lame unless there's good reason. Implants are not so easy to replace!

I wanted to go deep into space with a shuttle to explore, but I forgot to do it before I put in a +1 int implant. Oops.

[Yegolev]

What happens when your warp gets jammed by actual decent pirates? 

Kaboom!  ;-)  I lose a 15k ISK frigate and a couple 30k ISK (?) mining lasers.  I get 22k from the insurance and buy a new Navitas and spend maybe 100k on equipment.  I know how that works since I have already had a Navitas vaporized.  C'est la vie, as us Space-French say.  I like to keep a healthy bank account just for such emergencies.  I feel uncomfortable when my liquid assets are not enough to outright buy a replacement ship plus fittings.  I could buy a Tristan to replace my Atron right now, but I would not have enough free cash to buy it again should something bad happen to it.  I don't plan on selling the Atron, either, since it is faster than a Tristan.

[Reg]

I badly need to get podded. I put in about 60 million isk worth of good implants before I started training up my advanced learning skills and I swore that as soon as they were done I wouldn't let them turn me into a sissy. But I lied. :)

[WayAbvPar]

Goddamnit. I have been clicking "Mark as Read" on this thread for weeks, sure I wasn't interested in Eve. Then I began to notice that more and more of you folks I have listed as an Xfire friends have been spending a lot of time playing Eve. Hmmm. I decided that I would check this thread out when I got back to work (who reads forums on their OWN time) and see if my interested was piqued.

I will be joining damned soon- it sounds really different, and I am intrigued. Like probably tonight soon. Is there still a free trial available? Can I join the corp and ask tons of n00bler questions? What usually happens is that I talk myself into playing with everyone, then everyone quits within a month. I must have virtual BO or something.

I knew seeing Serenity yesterday was going to screw me over somehow!

[Merusk]

Yes, there's a 14-day trial. You can't train some skills on it but it's a good way of getting your feet wet.  And since it's 14-days and everyone's been playing for about half that long your trial would peter out as that 'one month and out' deadline approached. ;)

[Raging Turtle]

I will be joining damned soon- it sounds really different, and I am intrigued. Like probably tonight soon. Is there still a free trial available? Can I join the corp and ask tons of n00bler questions? What usually happens is that I talk myself into playing with everyone, then everyone quits within a month. I must have virtual BO or something.

I knew seeing Serenity yesterday was going to screw me over somehow!

Free trial = yes, joining the corp is easy and there seems to be a good number of us on in the evening.  I've been the one asking all the noob questions for the past two days. 

See you three weeks when you finish the tutorial!

[bhodikhan]

This game is fun! I login to find my alliance FOE (Forces of Evil) has three wars going on. After losing one BS because I did not know the wars were ongoing I proceeded to lose another Battleship trying to get with the corp to fight.

Then on the way back I got nailed again mere meters from the station.

2 battlesships, 1 interceptor = $300 mil ISK. The look on my face when I realized I'm playing this game? PRICELESS

Boo Yah.

bhodikhan
20 mil skill points and almost broke (again)
I can't even mine with all the death and destruction going on!

[Driakos]

As long as the fargers don't podkill you, that's lame unless there's good reason. Implants are not so easy to replace!

They pod kill you.  The only thing that stops them from podding you is, if you manage to get away.  There's no advantage to podding.  You don't get anything extra.  They just do it to add your kill email from Concord to the collection.

I like the term that has been coined for when a NPC Concord ship kills you.  Concordokken.

[WayAbvPar]

Ok, so I am still in the fucking tutorial, but it is interesting so far. Will be far more so when I get to do my own shit and get killed like everyone else. Name is Antolin Vakalas. If I travel to the home station of F13, are there any n00b missions there I can run?

[Megrim]

What species are you? Space-french, space-american, reaver or sith? If you are Calamari, the first line of Agent missions should net you around 300k (plus a stat-mod chip which you can also sell for cashy money, just not in the newbie systems). That should be enough to start you on your desired path.

[WayAbvPar]

I am Frenchy. My storyline agent mission remains unaccepted for reasons I can't yet figure, so I skipped it and started with a couple of courier missions from the regular agents. Got enough to buy a shiny new Atron (which is probably the Geo Metro of Eve, but it beats the shit out of the n00b ship I started with). I am currently on a 16 jump trip to F13 HQ to join.

So far, I am having fun. It is pretty goddamned complex, but that is some of the appeal to me. As long as the complexity isn't overwhelming to the point of helplessness, which it can approach at times. Luckily I figured out how to set the chat channels right away and got some sage advice from the vets here.

[5150]

Define 'stupidly expensive.'  Even at 3.2 million skillpoints (which takes a while to get to, after 4 1/2 months active skill training I'm only at 2.7 million ) a clone only costs 262k each time, and you only need to replace it if you get podded. With negotiations, connections and social at level 3 it's easy to get the cash in one or two level 2 missions just from the payout, much less the loot I gather from the NPC rats.  (level 2's require cruisers, which are fairly easy to get up to and use)

Well I havent logged in a day of 2 (still waiting for Ind 5 to finish) so I don't have exact figures on me but I'm hunting rats in 0.5 space that are worth between 8k-14k each (there are the odd harder spawns of kestrels but them make micemeat out of my destroyer before I get in range), I dont have my skill points to hand but going on the above clone (my account has been active a total of 5ish months so its probably not a million miles off) thats about 30 kills before taking into account buying more ammo or repairs to any damaged modules (I have armour/hull repairer so thats covered), also the loot is nothing to write home about (although a corp-mate claims to have had an implant in loot in this particular system). I dont have the insurance cost of my destroyer on me either unfortunately.

As much as it's frowned on in some quarters, Eve becomes much more fun when/if you ebay some ISK because suddenly you can get the skills you want (training time though grrrr) buy some nice ships and modules, get a decent clone and insurance and try some stuff out (like lower sec hunting/mining) without the fear of losing everything and getting sent back to square one (or having to spend forever getting enough ISK together to replace everything you already spent forever buying in the first place!

[Jamiko]

I badly need to get podded. I put in about 60 million isk worth of good implants before I started training up my advanced learning skills and I swore that as soon as they were done I wouldn't let them turn me into a sissy. But I lied. :)

I hear you. I invested 30 million ISK into some implants to speed up skill training and now when I get missions into low security space I'm balking at them. Sissy indeed.

[Reg]

I am Frenchy. My storyline agent mission remains unaccepted for reasons I can't yet figure, so I skipped it and started with a couple of courier missions from the regular agents. Got enough to buy a shiny new Atron (which is probably the Geo Metro of Eve, but it beats the shit out of the n00b ship I started with). I am currently on a 16 jump trip to F13 HQ to join.

Go back to your story line agent and accept and do that mission. It's the beginning of an important series that will give you a big boost to your Gallente faction (which is important to talk to other agents) and ends with an implant reward. And if you're lucky you'll get a good one that could sell for as much as 3 million isk and pay for all the frigates you could possibly need while you're newbing it up. :)

[Sky]

Am I the only person that put in the implant instead of selling it? I figured +1 int was worth more than the money.

[WayAbvPar]

I am Frenchy. My storyline agent mission remains unaccepted for reasons I can't yet figure, so I skipped it and started with a couple of courier missions from the regular agents. Got enough to buy a shiny new Atron (which is probably the Geo Metro of Eve, but it beats the shit out of the n00b ship I started with). I am currently on a 16 jump trip to F13 HQ to join.

Go back to your story line agent and accept and do that mission. It's the beginning of an important series that will give you a big boost to your Gallente faction (which is important to talk to other agents) and ends with an implant reward. And if you're lucky you'll get a good one that could sell for as much as 3 million isk and pay for all the frigates you could possibly need while you're newbing it up. :)

I did talk to her- I ask her for work, and the  next screen is her telling me to come see her when I get to the station (even though I am already there). The mission shows up in my journal as Not Accepted. I can't figure out how to accept it.

[Jamiko]

Are you POSITIVE you are in the right station? Agents will show up on the right even if they are not in the current station. Check the agent's info to find the location.

[HRose]

I did talk to her- I ask her for work, and the  next screen is her telling me to come see her when I get to the station (even though I am already there). The mission shows up in my journal as Not Accepted. I can't figure out how to accept it.

I heard it's a recent bug. There should be a patch in a few days that may resolve that.

I also heard that you should "petition" it (CSR appeals) to have it solved.

[Viin]

If the agent is listed on 'Agents of Interest' you aren't at their station, just FYI. When you check the mission in the journal it should also show Completed next to the objectives in the mission text (double click the entry in your journal), so even though you haven't gotten your reward it should show those as done. (Though, for some kill missions it doesn't show as completed sometimes - even when it is).

Also, we have an office in Gallente space. If you can do Info on the corp you should see an Offices list, one of which should be nearish to you.

[WayAbvPar]

I am 99% sure I was at the right station- I used the link to the agent to Set Destination. Once I realized I couldn't accept the mission, I did a kill mission for another agent at the same station.

I am not sure which office I am at for F13 now- someone sent me a link last night and I did a 16 hop trip to get there. I bet there was one closer, but I am too much of a n00b to know or care at this point.

I may go home at lunch to start some more skills and maybe fly back to the station again and try the agent one more time (and then petition if it still doesn't work). If I start the trip on Autopilot, I should be safe sitting in system until I get home from work tonight, shouldn't I? I am pretty sure it is 1.0 or .9 space there.

[Viin]

Yah that should be fine. And even if it's not in .5 or greater space, you can set it to 'Safe' areas only on the Map screen (under autopilot tab) which may take more jumps but it'll make sure you aren't jumped by pirates.

[Merusk]

... but I'm hunting rats in 0.5 space that are worth between 8k-14k each (there are the odd harder spawns of kestrels but them make micemeat out of my destroyer before I get in range),

I found your problem, you're grinding for cash.  Missions >> Pirate hunting in .5+ space by a longshot.  Find a security or internal security agent that's level 1 or 2 (depending on your combat skills) and as high of quality as you can must and run missions with them. Also start training-up connections, negotiation and social to at least level 3 - should only take you a day or two.  The friendlier the agent gets with you the bigger the payouts will be for the same missions.

The agent I'm working on is a -6 quality level 2 agent, but my standing with her is 7.2 - standing and my skills raise her quality to 15. That means I'm getting 60k (for a simple "go here and kill" mission) to 150k+ (for deadspace missions) just as my base pay. The bonuses for fast completion of a mission range from doubling your payout to ammo or materials/ modules you can use or sell on the market.  That's fast cash for killing stuff of an equivalent level to the rats your competing against other players for.  Plus you get the bonus of the bounty for each ship and the components they drop on top of the mission payout.

Now, some missions might send you a sector or two into .4 space, BUT if you pay attention when warping into the area (and are cloaked) you'll see if there's any gate campers you need to be aware of on the way back.  If they start sending you to lowspace on a regular basis you just make an instant bookmark and then not worry about it in either event.

[Reg]

Am I the only person that put in the implant instead of selling it? I figured +1 int was worth more than the money.

+1 int is nice but you're at the point where most of your skills train so fast that you're not even going to notice the difference and you're also at the point where a million or two to buy frigates or upgrade to a destroyer is more important than shaving 30 seconds off the 12 minutes it takes to train Engineering 1. :)

Plus you will inevitably wander into .4 space and get yourself podded. It's a newb rite of passage like learning to take a couple steps away from people standing too close to you at the bank in UO circa 1998.

Don't worry about it though. Other opportunities will come up. Implants are common rewards for the early storyline missions.

[Reg]

I am 99% sure I was at the right station- I used the link to the agent to Set Destination. Once I realized I couldn't accept the mission, I did a kill mission for another agent at the same station.

I am not sure which office I am at for F13 now- someone sent me a link last night and I did a 16 hop trip to get there. I bet there was one closer, but I am too much of a n00b to know or care at this point.

I may go home at lunch to start some more skills and maybe fly back to the station again and try the agent one more time (and then petition if it still doesn't work). If I start the trip on Autopilot, I should be safe sitting in system until I get home from work tonight, shouldn't I? I am pretty sure it is 1.0 or .9 space there.

If  you've checked and made absolutely sure you're at the right place then it's definitely worth doing a petition over. That first storyline sequence is crucial. And CCP are quite amazingly fast in responding to stuff like that. I think there's a category devoted to being "stuck" in a mission that gets priority treatment.