Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace to be Spiderman villians.

[Llava]

It'll be great....

Sweet.  I love it when Scottish people say "It'll be great."

[HaemishM]

What's with the Venom hate? Granted I haven't read many spiderman comics in my days, but Venom always struck me as a slightly funny, badass looking villain. I'd say he ranks number 2 after Vulture in my book.

Venom is the afterbirth and placenta of the retarded love child of Todd McFarlane and Rob Liefeld. They created him with a mixture of the sheer stupid of Wolverine and the super-duper cool of DA UL-TRA-VIOLINZZZ!!! Not only was he a one-note character without a shred of dramatic potential, he made an interesting part of Spider-Man's history (the black suit) into something so stupid and overexposed, not even extra-special 15-variant cover collector's editions could worsen its insipidness. The addition of Carnage on top of that was the straw that broke the camel's back, the veritable masturbatory fantasy of the special needs child in the corner, amused with its own filth. Like many of the comics of the time, it was all surface and shiney and "it's cool to be grim without reason" and none of the more interesting qualities of villains such as the Green Goblin. Venom was so over the top, it made Spider-Man's other villains seem silly by comparison, which meant that those villains got put through a period of being portrayed with contempt.

In MMOG terms, Venom was the Dawn of Spider-Man's villains.

[Velorath]

Like many of the comics of the time, it was all surface and shiney and "it's cool to be grim without reason" and none of the more interesting qualities of villains such as the Green Goblin.

Or what would eventually become the Image style.

[Ironwood]

What Haemish said.

The trouble with Venom (speaking as someone who was reading that storyline avidly) was that the two characters (suit and Brock) were really built up.  Once they were defeated, it wasn't so easy just to sweep em under the crapet*.  They (and we have to blame McFarlane here, because he's a cock) just kept revisiting the Venom character because they thought it was interesting and connected with the youth.  Which was bollocks.  They just liked McFarlanes Artwork and the way he drew MJ - which was occasionally tied up with webbing.  Yes, it was that bad.

The fact that Venom/Carnage appeared in something that's been written so well as the USM is a travesty.  The double fact that it took the serious issue of Gwen's death and turned it into Carnage sucking her clit dry to death was just the end as far as I was concerned.  I don't buy 'em anymore.

*(yes, that was a spelling error, but it makes so much sense I'm leaving it there)

[Shockeye]

Kirsten Dunst, professional moron.

[schild]

Kirsten Dunst, professional moron.

?

She confirmed year old rumors. Really, who gives a shit. At $10M a movie, she's not paid to think.

[Strazos]

I couldn't read the article in the link. I kept wondering who the background image was....Jolie?

[Morfiend]

After going back and reading my Ultimate Spider-Man graphic novel, Topher Grace actualy makes a perfict Eddy Brook. The only trouble is that so far the Spider-Man moves seem to be following much more the original storyline, not the Ultimate line. Honestly I dont think it bodes well.

[Arnold]

They just liked McFarlanes Artwork and the way he drew MJ - which was occasionally tied up with webbing.  Yes, it was that bad.

Back in 1990, the senior English teacher (yeah, small school) at my school had a project where the kids would have to write a letter to a celeb or something.  This guy who was a year ahead of me wrote to McFarlane, because he was a Spidey fan.  The guy got a handwritten letter, from McFarlane, sent back to him, with a drawing of Spidey on the bottom half of the page.

Now that shit HAS to be worth something.

[Llava]

After going back and reading my Ultimate Spider-Man graphic novel, Topher Grace actualy makes a perfict Eddy Brook. The only trouble is that so far the Spider-Man moves seem to be following much more the original storyline, not the Ultimate line. Honestly I dont think it bodes well.

I haven't read Ultimate Spider-Man.  How is Ultimate Venom different, if at all?

[Ironwood]

Venom confirmed ?!

Fucking hell.


It's going to suck almost as much as SWG.

To be clear, I love the Sandman.  Hell, in later issues, they really built him into a worthwhile and sympathetic character.  In Ultimate, he's also quite fascinating.  (I love the Sinister Six Story with Silver Sable and the Sandman.  It was luv.)

But Venom.

Oh Fuck.

Kill me now please.

[Merusk]

I find myself hoping over and over again that Venom will be in for maybe 30 mins before he gets wtfpwned in some manner, just to get the people who keep saying "OMG PUT IN VENOM! THAT'D BE AWESOME!!!" to shut the fuck up.  (I heard similar comments from folks walking down the hall while waiting for my wife to get out of the restroom after seeing both movies.)

It's a futile hope, I know, but it's all I've got.

[HaemishM]

Yay. Venom is in the movies. I am so excited.

I had to put that in green, because we don't have a specified VOMIT color. Motherfucking cockbags. Please let Venom be wtfpwnedbbqed quickly. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS CHARACTER FOR 2 FUCKING HOURS.

[AOFanboi]

I don't know why they do that. Everyone knows you can build a good movie around a single villain (e.g. Spiderman 2 is luv). Add more and you risk diluting things by shifting the focus a lot. It somewhat worked in Batman Returns, but that was because Max Shreck moved into the background most of the time after the beginning, and because Catwoman was more anti-hero (and the mandatory love interest) than villain. Oh, and because DeVito got the best lines.

Volunteer Bimbo: You're the coolest role-model a young person could have!
The Penguin: And you're the hottest young person a role-model could have.

Ah, back on track: Doesn't the non-Ultimate Spiderman genesis of Venom require the alien symbiote suit from Secret Wars? How are they going to get around that?

Why two villains who both can morph into wrecking forces of evil? It's almost as you start begging for them to use Mysterio instead.

[Pococurante]

I had to put that in green, because we don't have a specified VOMIT color.

Whee! Colored text is cool again!

[schild]

I had to put that in green, because we don't have a specified VOMIT color.

Whee! Colored text is cool again!

[Pococurante]

 

[Surlyboi]

Shawnee Smith > Terry Farrell

Word. She's hawt and she's got a punk band.

[Morfiend]

After going back and reading my Ultimate Spider-Man graphic novel, Topher Grace actualy makes a perfict Eddy Brook. The only trouble is that so far the Spider-Man moves seem to be following much more the original storyline, not the Ultimate line. Honestly I dont think it bodes well.

I haven't read Ultimate Spider-Man.  How is Ultimate Venom different, if at all?

In Ultimate Spider-Man Eddy Brook is a skinny little weeny a few years older than peter. Their fathers worked together and created the "Venom" suit. Unlinke the original Venom suit that was just black spandix, in the Ultimate its the suit that makes Venom "buff" not the man underneath.

Seeing as I cant seem to find a picture anywhere. I suck.

[Sky]

Why does Marvel Ultimate stuff make me want to poke forks in my eyes?

[Llava]

After going back and reading my Ultimate Spider-Man graphic novel, Topher Grace actualy makes a perfict Eddy Brook. The only trouble is that so far the Spider-Man moves seem to be following much more the original storyline, not the Ultimate line. Honestly I dont think it bodes well.

I haven't read Ultimate Spider-Man.  How is Ultimate Venom different, if at all?

In Ultimate Spider-Man Eddy Brook is a skinny little weeny a few years older than peter. Their fathers worked together and created the "Venom" suit. Unlinke the original Venom suit that was just black spandix, in the Ultimate its the suit that makes Venom "buff" not the man underneath.

Seeing as I cant seem to find a picture anywhere. I suck.

And Ultimate Venom is just plain evil instead of "Protecting justice by eating the brains of the evil"?

[SurfD]

Necropost and all that:

Thomas Haden Church as Flint Marko, aka: The Sandman

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11866
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/

[AOFanboi]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11866

Frag it, he looks the part. Who knew? The simpleton mechanic in "Wings" has come a long way.

[Sky]

Heh. This whole time I was thinking it was the other guy from Sideways. Woops.

[Ironwood]

He looks good with it.

Between him and Gobby, I see no need for Venom whatsoever.

/obvious.

[HaemishM]

That picture just shows how stupid that costume is. But then, most comic book movies prove that over and over. I still love the line in X-Men, "What should we wear? Yellow and blue spandex?"

[Ironwood]

I always like Sandmans outfit.  It wasn't a uniform, just the shit he was wearing when he got sanded.

And he never needed to change because, you know, he was made out of fucking sand.

[Sky]

There should be a Catwoman vs Sandman crossover. "You're my litterbox, bitch!"

Not the Hale Berry catwoman...that's on HBO now, we checked out about 10 minutes of it out of curiosity...ohmyfuck. That's....real bad.

[HaemishM]

There should be a Catwoman vs Sandman crossover. "You're my litterbox, bitch!"

Not the Hale Berry catwoman...that's on HBO now, we checked out about 10 minutes of it out of curiosity...ohmyfuck. That's....real bad.

You have no idea how bad it can be.

[Sky]

Hey, if I open a door and a midget is sodomizing an amputee, I shut that fucking door quick.

[Shockeye]

Hey, if I open a door and a midget is sodomizing an amputee, I shut that fucking door quick.

"quick" is subjective.

[Merusk]

I always like Sandmans outfit.  It wasn't a uniform, just the shit he was wearing when he got sanded.

And he never needed to change because, you know, he was made out of fucking sand.

Now imagine if he'd been sanded on laundry day.  "Fuck, now I'm stuck wearing this goddamned Journey ttour '85 T-shirt and the sweatshorts with the goddamned hole in the crotch."

[AOFanboi]

You have no idea how bad it can be.

The pastels-and-leather Batman and Robin was made for gay men, of course lesbians needed a movie, too, so they made Catwoman. What's the big deal?

[ahoythematey]

Lesbians already had their movie with Tank Girl.

[HaemishM]

Lesbians already had their movie with Tank Girl.

Mmmmmm, Naomi Watts with dyed black hair in the sand shower.

Excuse me for a moment.