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tazelbain
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on: June 10, 2005, 06:08:26 PM

From http://www.pixelrage.com/mesmerize/fansitefriday/46/
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Bonus Question: Will expansion packs offer new features and functionality or are expansions limited to fresh content and more options?

I asked Mike O'Brien about this, and he explained that our philosophy is that new features will be free and new content will usually have a cost. So features will be rolled out in our free Game Updates and content will be offered in our upcoming chapters. Mike said that features are things that improve or expand functionality. Examples of features would be account storage, chat or trade improvements, or such features as Observer Mode. And as mentioned, features will be included in a Live Update between chapters because they are part of the engine, and we are constantly improving that.

Chapters, on the other hand, will offer new content. This will include a new storyline, new regions, new skills, new possible strategies, new PvP options, and a whole bunch of other great things. Chapter 2 is going to be so exciting that we are not going to hold engine improvements in order to encourage you to buy Chapter 2. We will give you the new engine improvements for free, as they are developed, with confidence that you will buy Chapter 2 for the great new content that it will offer.
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Reply #1 on: June 10, 2005, 11:33:24 PM

New skills?

Be very careful.

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Reply #2 on: June 11, 2005, 02:40:44 AM

Lol, their business model practical demands mudflation.

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Reply #3 on: June 11, 2005, 09:19:56 AM

Yeah, which was pointed out from the beginning.   Be Careful with new skills?  You can bet at least one expansion will have skills designed to negate the most problematic PvP builds, requiring the competitive PVPers to buy it. i.e. fixing the 'Smite Monk' problem  I've seen some GW players mention.

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Reply #4 on: June 11, 2005, 11:58:24 AM

It's not unreasonable to require people to buy the expansions to remain competitive in a zero subscription game, the trick is whether A.net manage to make any additional character development fun or not.

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Reply #5 on: June 11, 2005, 12:12:45 PM

The subscription is expansions.

Which is to say, it's just like every other MMOG, except they aren't trying to fuck you by making you pay by the month and for subscriptions.
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Reply #6 on: June 11, 2005, 01:16:49 PM

ii.e. fixing the 'Smite Monk' problem  I've seen some GW players mention.

What problem? I've been raped many a times by a Necro or Mesmer when I'm a smite monk.

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Reply #7 on: June 11, 2005, 01:36:04 PM

Yeah, yeah, I know.  I just have this crazy voice in my head that says you should want expansions, not need them.

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Reply #8 on: June 13, 2005, 01:47:35 PM

Shades of Everquest, anyone, anyone? Sucked what, anyone, anyone? Massive amounts of ass.

Don't negate old stuff with new stuff...it's supposed to be supplementary content, not replaceatory.

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Reply #9 on: June 13, 2005, 01:56:35 PM

I may be wrong, but I imagine the majority of the 'new skills' will come in the form of a new class or two.

The devs claim to want a M:tG type arrangement for skills, where the critical thing is to have complementary skills rather than just powerful ones. Only without block rotation to killing off your old cards/skills.

As a group has a total of 64 skills that shouldn't be impossible, but to make it work they are going to need the effects of skills to be much more complex and open ended than they are imo.

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Reply #10 on: June 13, 2005, 06:03:57 PM

They have shown a good deal of creativity so far with the skills and a fucking fantastic level of balance out the gate compared to any other rpg combat I've had the displeasure of pvp'ing with.  As to the power creep, it is inevitable table top wargames are a good example as even they can not avoid the temptation of making "the new army" a tad bit cheesier then all the others in hopes of selling their new books and mini's.  Gamesworkshop got this down to a fucking artform around when I stopped building them money hats.


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