Episode 3

[ahoythematey]

All the Necromongers believe in the Underverse, but it was only that one individual that successfully made it to the Underverse and back, which I guess gave him more "right" than other Necromongers to succeed the previous leader.  I'm 80% certain that is how it's explained.

EDIT: Shockeye, I found mine for $10 widescreen, brand new.   Wal-Mart ftw?

[Shockeye]

All the Necromongers believe in the Underverse, but it was only that one individual that successfully made it to the Underverse and back, which I guess gave him more "right" than other Necromongers to succeed the previous leader.  I'm 80% certain that is how it's explained.

EDIT: Shockeye, I found mine for $10 widescreen, brand new.   Wal-Mart ftw?

I never saw it or bought it. I was just going off of suggested retail price.

[Margalis]

All the Necromongers believe in the Underverse, but it was only that one individual that successfully made it to the Underverse and back, which I guess gave him more "right" than other Necromongers to succeed the previous leader.  I'm 80% certain that is how it's explained.

Maybe. So their original leader didn't have magical powers, only the current one? Eh whatever, not like I care anyway.

[Samwise]

Eh whatever, not like I care anyway.

I can tell.   

[Margalis]

Eh whatever, not like I care anyway.

I can tell.   

One man's care is another man's waiting for crap to compile while in the office on a Saturday evening.

[TheWalrus]

EDIT: Shockeye, I found mine for $10 widescreen, brand new. Wal-Mart ftw?

 Wal Mart for Teh Lose. I bought IT at HellMart and it was only the last 45 minutes of the show. Yes, I should have looked at the time on the box and said WTF. No, nowhere on it did it say it wasn't the complete version. Fuck them. I've never been back. Internet FTW.

[HaemishM]

Was just reading an interview in Entertainment Weekley with Lucas and he said 60% of the plot for the entire prequal trilogy is in Sith and that's how he intended it from the beginning. He admits the other 40% was split between the first two and that he added filler (which he calls "jazz rifts") to make them into full movies. 

Clones was 2 1/2 hours. Phantom was over 2 hours. If you don't have enough of a story for two movies that you have to put filler in it, WHY ARE THEY THAT LONG? I'm all for 2 hour movies, unless of course, the two hours is padded to hell and back with filler. See Kill Bill. You add filler when your movie is 1 hour 20 minutes to get it to 1 hour 30 minutes. You don't add filler to a 2 1/2 hour movie.

I'm hoping all the love scenes were the filler part.

[WayAbvPar]

I'm hoping all the love scenes were the filler part.

They were definitely the landfiller part.

[WindupAtheist]

USA Today gave it three-and-a-half stars and calls it better than Empire.

Know fear, naysayers, for the hour of my victory is at hand!  Muahahahaha!

[HaemishM]

USA Today would give an amateur circle jerk video 3 1/2 stars if you paid them enough.

[stray]

Did you just reedit your post to put in the "Muahahahaha!" thing?

I might have been your last inkling of support around here Windup....

But I think you've completely lost it.

[WindupAtheist]

When the final scenes roll with characters and locations familiar from the original 28-year-old film, you'll certainly feel that the series has been brought to a worthy close and that the maligned Episodes I and II retrospectively make a little more sense.

OMG LUCAS BRIBED TEH BBC!

Truly his sinister web of power knows no bounds!

[Margalis]

Talk about damning with faint praise.

[Abagadro]

Both A.O. Scott and Roger Ebert gave it very good reviews. If Edelstein and Desson Thompson give it good reviews my cynicism may be eroded enough for me to go see it in the theater.

[eldaec]

When the final scenes roll with characters and locations familiar from the original 28-year-old film, you'll certainly feel that the series has been brought to a worthy close and that the maligned Episodes I and II retrospectively make a little more sense.

OMG LUCAS BRIBED TEH BBC!

Truly his sinister web of power knows no bounds!

Also..

...shockingly silly moments.

Revenge of the Sith is breathtaking more often than it is ridiculous...

...The biggest annoyance comes from an unexpected source - Yoda. His backward-constructed sentences start to grate unlike ever before, and by the end you'll be desperate for the little green sage to shut up.

Cheesy lines make a comeback - the more stoic the debate, the less elegant the dialogue becomes, and even actors as good as Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman can do little about it.

There are probably more lame utterances in this film than the other five put together.

[Jayce]

There are probably more lame utterances in this film than the other five put together.

Plz no.   Threepio's one-liners were maybe the worst part of Ep2 (emerging from a wide field).

[Ironwood]

Yoda speak was always stupid.  I often thought that the 'backwards speak' should have stopped the moment he stopped pretending to be a swamp dweller and admitted being a Jedi Trainer.

But, alas....

[eldaec]

Yoda speak was always stupid.  I often thought that the 'backwards speak' should have stopped the moment he stopped pretending to be a swamp dweller and admitted being a Jedi Trainer.

If memory serves, Empire yoda speak is english words with latin grammar (object, subject, verb, or somesuch)

Wheras prequel yoda speak is just annoying nonsense.

I might be thinking of something else though. I often am.

[El Gallo]

Rumor has it that Tom Stoppard wrote or edited some of the dialogue.  This gives me hope, as he is just about the best dialogue writer alive.  I hope (in vain, I know) that Lucas gave him a long leash.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/04/13/Arts/hayden050413.html

[Shockeye]

Lucas Answers Star Wars Critics

George Lucas told SCI FI Wire that he doesn't really mind if older Star Wars fans don't like the three prequel films he directed. Speaking at the Cannes Film Festival, where he attended the premiere of Star Wars: Episode III—The Revenge of the Sith, Lucas said he really views the prequels as one big movie and hopes that is how they will be remembered.

"I really don't pay too much attention how people like one chapter or another chapter," Lucas said with a shrug. "We have discovered in the last few years, and it becomes more apparent all the time, that we have two fan bases. One is over 25, and one is under 25. The over-25 fan base is loyal to the first three films."

Lucas added that he thinks that the reason so much has been made about audiences not liking Episodes I and II is because the fans who are over 25 are "actually in their 30s and 40s now. They are in control of the media. They are in control of the Web. So mostly what you're hearing from are people over 25 years old. The films that those people don't like, which is the first two [Episodes I and II], actually, are very fanatically adored by the under-25-years-old [fans]. And if you get on the Web, and you listen to these conversations, they are always at each other's throats. The devotion for each group is equal. I never even paid much attention to it until about a year ago. I am curious to see what happens in about 10 years, when that other group starts to get their voice."

Asked if he plans to make three more Star Wars films, Lucas repeated his longstanding answer: Don't count on it. "The other sequels were [the speculation] sort of an overanxious press," he said. "The original intention was to make one movie. It turned into three. That was really the end of it. It wasn't until about 10 years later that it even occurred to me of doing the backstory. This is the tragedy of Darth Vader. It starts when he is 9 years old, and it ends when he dies. There really isn't any more to the story."

Douchebag.

[WayAbvPar]

It may be time to set up a server filter that replaces George Lucas's name with 'douchebag'. Goddamn he needs a kick in the nuts.

[HaemishM]

Fuck, what a douchebag. I like how he essentially says he NEVER considered making 9 films, or even the prequels until about 10 years ago. Bullshit. There was entirely too much press about those possibilities to ever believe that shit.

[El Gallo]

I won't defend the first 2 prequels, especially the second, but I do think Lucas has a point re: age differences.  People overlook the fact that the dialogue and characters in the first trilogy were flat, corny and awkward.  When you are 9 years old, that shit doesn't bother you.

The shit about never thinking about doing other movies has to be BS though.  There has been a ton of smoke on that for a long, long time now.

[Abagadro]

I think there is a marked difference in the dialogue between ANH/TPM/ATC and ESB/ROJ. Lucas just plain can't write dialogue. He has no nuance or implication in his writing. It is all very mechanical and surface.   Kasdan is the reason ESB/ROJ were at least marginally better in that department. Hopefully Stoppard helped this time around.

Lucas' only good dialogue movie that was "written" by him was American Grafiti and that was only because he let the actors ad-lib most of it. He is a good story/character creator (most the time anyways) but can't write a screenplay to save his life.

[Margalis]

I won't defend the first 2 prequels, especially the second, but I do think Lucas has a point re: age differences.  People overlook the fact that the dialogue and characters in the first trilogy were flat, corny and awkward.  When you are 9 years old, that shit doesn't bother you.

But I'm not 9 years old. I don't have a problem with nostalgia. There are plenty of things I saw or did as a kid that I realize now are lame, and plenty that still hold up. The dialog in the original three was not awful, and parts were excellent.

[MaceVanHoffen]

In honor of Episode 3, I've changed my celebratory douchebag avatar.  I don't think I need to ID him.

[HaemishM]

In honor of Episode 3, I've changed my celebratory douchebag avatar.  I don't think I need to ID him.

MEESA GONNA DOUCHE?

[schild]

Edit: Warning. Bad taste below....


YOUSA PEOPLE SMELL LIKE FISH.


Edit: Wooooo, bad choice of words all around.

[Shockeye]

Halloween is coming up.

[schild]

Halloween is coming up.

...why?

[Shockeye]

Halloween is coming up.

...why?

It's not enough to dress yourself up like a raging douchebag, you can torture your pets as well.

[Samprimary]

Cool! I don't have to change my avatar for RDW. It sort of works.

[Jayce]

"Watch your mouth, kid, or you're going to find yourself floating home."
"I suggest a new strategy, R2: let the wookiee win"
"Who's the more foolish: the fool, or the fool who follows him"
"I love you" "I know"
"Would it help if I got out and pushed?"  "It might!"


I could go on.  The middle three had one-liners, but they were good, and delivered in such a way to make them great.

All I can remember from PM and AC is "MEESA <something>", some lame love dialog, and Threepio making REALLY lame one-liners like "I'm beside myself!"

[Murgos]

I caved, peer pressure made me buy an advanced ticket for Thursday night, when all your friends are geeks I guess you just gotta be a geek.

[Paelos]

For all the stupidness in the prequals you do have to remember that Luke is a whiny bitch.

"With the blast shield down, I can't see anything!"
"But I was headed to Toshi Station to get some power converters!"
"What a piece of junk!"
"You know, between the howling and the blasting everything in sight, it's a wonder the whole station doesn't know we're here."
"Faaaaather!"
"I can't, it's too big!"
"I'll never join you!"

Wah wah wah!

All saved by Vader's: "I find your lack of faith...disturbing." Hell the best quotes are Vader's and Han's.