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Reply #490 on: May 12, 2005, 06:24:57 PM

My theater is showing it, we have a sweet sound system. I could see it for free 100 times.

I'm not going to see it. Star Wars is worse than the shittiest indy art film coming out of Lithuania.
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Reply #491 on: May 13, 2005, 12:57:34 AM

My theater is showing it, we have a sweet sound system. I could see it for free 100 times.

I'm not going to see it. Star Wars is worse than the shittiest indy art film coming out of Lithuania.

Your taste on "Space Operas" is suspect.  I just saw Chronicles of Riddick.  "Sucked" is the most accurate word I can use for it.  It was roughly on par with Reign of Fire.

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Reply #492 on: May 13, 2005, 08:09:03 AM

Your taste on "Space Operas" is suspect.  I just saw Chronicles of Riddick.  "Sucked" is the most accurate word I can use for it.  It was roughly on par with Reign of Fire.

I enjoyed Reign of Fire. Blow me.
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Reply #493 on: May 13, 2005, 08:32:34 AM

I liked Reign of Fire too - though there wasn't enough of it to be a 'great' movie.


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Reply #494 on: May 13, 2005, 08:47:57 AM

I liked Reign of Fire too - though there wasn't enough of it to be a 'great' movie.



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Reply #495 on: May 13, 2005, 10:18:04 AM

that the entire MMOG genre is still the festering heap of level-grinding shit it's been since the day EQ came out.

Because grinding skills to 100 in UO was much more exciting.

Macroing 4tw?

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Reply #496 on: May 13, 2005, 10:29:09 AM

Because grinding skills to 100 in UO was much more exciting.

Macroing 4tw?

More like, because there was macroing in UO, there wasn't an issue with grinding.  Who cared how many spells you had to cast to get to 100, because I didn't have to do it.  For other MMOGs it isn't generally as easy to setup a macro to replicate, so the user does have to do it.

And yeah, having macroing (who cares if it was against the TOS?) was one of the best aspects of UO.  Pop out your 7GM and just go play the game and have fun.

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Reply #497 on: May 13, 2005, 10:29:21 AM

that the entire MMOG genre is still the festering heap of level-grinding shit it's been since the day EQ came out.

Because grinding skills to 100 in UO was much more exciting.

Macroing 4tw?

Grinding a skill to 100 isn't much different than grinding a character to Vision.MAX_LEVEl, true.  But although UO turned into a steaming pile of cowdung, I gotta say it was a less smelly pile of cowdung than later games turned out to be.  At least there was something to do besides kill foozle_012 and get killed by mobs not much higher in level than a n00bler.


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Reply #498 on: May 13, 2005, 11:21:57 AM

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Some 'Star Wars" fans reject Lucas' escort offer

By Fred Shuster
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"Star Wars" creator George Lucas has offered to send Imperial stormtroopers to escort the fan encampment at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood to the ArcLight cinema complex for the first screening of "Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith" at 12:01 a.m. Thursday.

But there are refuseniks in the ranks.

The fan line, which numbers some 200 of the most ardent "Star Wars" devotees, is holding forth at Grauman's in hopes Lucas' latest and final installment will screen at the theater there, where the five previous episodes opened. But Lucas has contracted to unveil the film at the ArcLight, a mile away on Sunset Boulevard.

About 50 actors dressed in the black-and-white uniforms of the series' Imperial Army will depart from the ArcLight around 4 p.m. Wednesday to escort fans waiting at Grauman's back to the ArcLight to wait for the curtain to rise. While the crowd waits for the first sold-out screenings just past midnight, lightsaber battles will play out in the ArcLight courtyard, according to Los Angeles-based JS2 Communications, which represents ArcLight theaters.

But not all the Grauman's die-hards will join the march. The 200 registered place-holders represent some 600 fans, of which about 150 are refuseniks who will either remain on Hollywood Boulevard in a candlelight vigil or plan to catch a midnight screening in Westwood or elsewhere in Hollywood.

"A lot of us are set to go with the stormtroopers, but some decided to politely say no thank you," said "Star Wars" camper Jerry Anderson, 27, a Los Angeles college student who's been on line since April 2. "It's heartbreaking. The series opened here (in 1977) - why not end it here?"

The ArcLight has set "Sith" screenings to run continuously for the first 24 hours, including those at the complex's historic 900-seat domed venue. Tickets for the 6:30 a.m. Thursday showing are still available. Fans from the Grauman's line were offered tickets at $14 each.

Still, even with the offer of an Imperial procession, the most committed of the Grauman's crew have launched a new campaign and Web site (www.chinese.liningup.net) to spread word of their dissent.

"We're protesting because we feel 'Star Wars' fans of the world are being deprived of the ultimate 'Star Wars' experience," said Gianennio Salucci. "Everyone should have a chance to see the film at Grauman's. It's the 'Star Wars' Mecca."
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Reply #499 on: May 13, 2005, 11:32:20 AM

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"We're protesting because we feel 'Star Wars' fans of the world are being deprived of the ultimate 'Star Wars' experience," said Gianennio Salucci. "Everyone should have a chance to see the film at Grauman's. It's the 'Star Wars' Mecca."

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Reply #500 on: May 13, 2005, 11:42:37 AM

Seriously, Lucas practically sucks these people off with a little geek-gasm parade, and they still bitch.

Fuck them, fuck Lucas, fuck the prequals, Ewan's cool, fuck flipping CGI muppets, I'm out!

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Reply #501 on: May 13, 2005, 11:53:39 AM

Fuck them, fuck Lucas, fuck the prequals, Ewan's cool, fuck flipping CGI muppets, I'm out!

Stop with all the fucking, you're going to get some serious friction burns.
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Reply #502 on: May 13, 2005, 11:56:41 AM

Your taste on "Space Operas" is suspect.  I just saw Chronicles of Riddick.  "Sucked" is the most accurate word I can use for it.  It was roughly on par with Reign of Fire.

For the record, I didn't call Event Horizon a space Opera. The fat lady never sang for Firefly and I don't think she ever will. More drama anyway. There aren't enough space operas out there to be suspect. But Riddick was much better than Episode I, II, most likely III, and episode VI.
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Reply #503 on: May 13, 2005, 12:02:51 PM

That little circle jerk is in need of a nerve gas 'spill'.

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Reply #504 on: May 13, 2005, 12:14:07 PM

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Anakin Skywalker journeying to a volcano-filled hell to make a pact with the devil.
...but first he must face off against Steve Vai with only Obi Wan Miagi's teachings to guide him.
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Reply #505 on: May 13, 2005, 12:18:06 PM

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Anakin Skywalker journeying to a volcano-filled hell to make a pact with the devil.
...but first he must face off against Steve Vai with only Obi Wan Miagi's teachings to guide him.

No wah-wah pedal? "E A B, E A B A..."

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Reply #506 on: May 13, 2005, 12:19:42 PM

Your taste on "Space Operas" is suspect.  I just saw Chronicles of Riddick.  "Sucked" is the most accurate word I can use for it.  It was roughly on par with Reign of Fire.

For the record, I didn't call Event Horizon a space Opera. The fat lady never sang for Firefly and I don't think she ever will. More drama anyway. There aren't enough space operas out there to be suspect. But Riddick was much better than Episode I, II, most likely III, and episode VI.

What's with all the Riddick hate?  Chronicles wasn't near as good as Pitch Black (one of my all time favorites), but it's still a decent action flick.  The only thing I can seriously criticize with Chronicles is the cheesy acting of some (not all) of the actors.  Other than that, it's most certainly better than most of what Lucas has done.
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Reply #507 on: May 13, 2005, 02:21:55 PM

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...but first he must face off against Steve Vai with only Obi Wan Miagi's teachings to guide him.

No wah-wah pedal? "E A B, E A B A..."
Smoke on the Water?

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Reply #508 on: May 13, 2005, 02:28:03 PM

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Anakin Skywalker journeying to a volcano-filled hell to make a pact with the devil.
...but first he must face off against Steve Vai with only Obi Wan Miagi's teachings to guide him.

No wah-wah pedal? "E A B, E A B A..."
Smoke on the Water?

That would be B D E, B D F E

Edit: Scratch that: G Bb C, G Bb C# C
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Reply #509 on: May 13, 2005, 02:58:29 PM

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...but first he must face off against Steve Vai with only Obi Wan Miagi's teachings to guide him.

No wah-wah pedal? "E A B, E A B A..."

Don't worry, Way.. I got the joke and I'm sure others did too.

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Reply #510 on: May 13, 2005, 03:00:15 PM

Why is it a secret again?  rolleyes Does it have something to do with Ralph Macchio?
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Reply #511 on: May 13, 2005, 03:14:43 PM

No wah-wah pedal? "E A B, E A B A..."
Smoke on the Water?

That would be B D E, B D F E

Edit: Scratch that: G Bb C, G Bb C# C

Sorry I was never that good at sounding out notes.

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Reply #512 on: May 13, 2005, 03:26:16 PM

Why is it a secret again?  rolleyes Does it have something to do with Ralph Macchio?

No seceret, it's just never amusing to explain a joke.  If you saw the skit  (Kids in the Hall) you'd get the reference. Otherwise you'd just go "Oh." and move on.  I just wanted Way to know that the reference wasn't missed.

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Reply #513 on: May 13, 2005, 04:27:04 PM

Damn, now I wish I could remember the reference. I'm guessing the skit had Marc McKinney as Satan, right?
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Reply #514 on: May 13, 2005, 04:54:50 PM

Yeah.. in a kind of take-off of the devil went down to Georgia

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Reply #515 on: May 13, 2005, 06:02:00 PM

Odd. If you look at the bottom it does list the song as Smoke on the Water. Funny how a little reading goes a long way.

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Reply #516 on: May 13, 2005, 07:13:44 PM

Was just reading an interview in Entertainment Weekley with Lucas and he said 60% of the plot for the entire prequal trilogy is in Sith and that's how he intended it from the beginning. He admits the other 40% was split between the first two and that he added filler (which he calls "jazz rifts") to make them into full movies. 

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Reply #517 on: May 13, 2005, 08:03:33 PM

Odd. If you look at the bottom it does list the song as Smoke on the Water. Funny how a little reading goes a long way.

Of course, this is assuming that Bobby, in his pursuit of ROCK, was able to figure out the actual chords for the "holy trinity of rock" and not some tone-deaf version thereof.


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Reply #518 on: May 13, 2005, 08:14:15 PM

What's with all the Riddick hate?  Chronicles wasn't near as good as Pitch Black (one of my all time favorites), but it's still a decent action flick.  The only thing I can seriously criticize with Chronicles is the cheesy acting of some (not all) of the actors.  Other than that, it's most certainly better than most of what Lucas has done.

How about the moronic plot that didn't make any sense?

Chronicles was mediocre at best. Pitch Black had a certain charm, Chronicles had none.

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Reply #519 on: May 14, 2005, 12:19:03 AM

No, the plot made sense; it was just stupid-silly and over the top.  But that's the thing: you should expect this from most space-faring adventures and the like, because concept and spectacle in them is almost as important as story and character.  All four done well gives you something spectacular and endlessly rewatchable, like Aliens.

I liked Riddick almost as much as I liked Pitch Black, but then I have a thing for Thandie Newton.
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Reply #520 on: May 14, 2005, 11:52:07 AM

I really don't think it made any sense. Let's review:

The bad guys are trying to make it to the Underverse, which was discovered by their leader. For some reason findingt he Underverse involves killing or converting everyone along the way. It was never explained what the Underverse is at all, or why it inspired this religious fervor.

The main bad guy got magical powers by visiting the underverse. That's never explained either. On top of that, later they state that the main bad guy is actually one in a succession of main bad guys. So is THIS the guy that visited the Underverse, or was it a predecessor? If it was a predecessor, how did this current guy get his magical powers. The moviecertainly leads you to believe that this guy was just one in a succession, but it also leads you to believe he was the guy that visited the Underverse, and both don't make sense together.

After the main bad guy visited the Underverse, how did he get his religion off the ground and create a huge army out of it? There is some brainwashing involved (?) but most of the main characrters don't seem brainwashed at all. (The second in command, his wife, the guy who helps out on the prison planet, etc - invest in some more reliable brainwashing machines please)

Why is tha main rule of the bad guys "Keep what you kill". (Or whatever it was) WTF does that have to do with the Underverse. How can a place in outer space inspire that as the main tenet of your religion?

What would have happened if the 2nd in command had killed the leader? Would have he have gained those special powers.
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It's not that you can't explain away some of this, just that they never bothered. Apparently the directors  cut has some more backstory, but in the theatrical version it's pretty weak and the whole Underverse/religion angle is basically "there are some bad guys that like to rip shit up." Any deeper than that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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Reply #521 on: May 14, 2005, 02:20:27 PM

Don't be lame.

They didn't explain that "force" bullshit in Star Wars and when they finally did, everyone got pissed at the answer.
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Reply #522 on: May 14, 2005, 03:31:39 PM

Because grinding skills to 100 in UO was much more exciting.

Macroing 4tw?

When your UO character is macroed to 7xGM, you go play the game.  When your WoW character is catassed to level 60, you quit.

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Reply #523 on: May 14, 2005, 03:32:52 PM

Um...that makes no sense. Ever hear of "suspension of disbelief?" I don't need an explanation for the Force because if you suspend disbelief the world is somewhat internally consistent. The world in Chronicles was not. I have no problem believing in the Underverse itself. What I do have a problem with is the bad guy leader having special powers because he went to the Underverse, then later being told he was just one in a succession of leaders - so did he go to the Underverse or not? It's probably better to get your story straight before you write the movie.

I would rather the explanation for the movie be "here are some really bad guys" and leave it at that, rather than come up with a nonsensical half-baked explanation that added nothing to the movie. The idea of the Underverse sounded cool in the first 5 minutes but they did nothing with it, it was just ugly window-dressing. Again, maybe the directors cut does something different with it.

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Reply #524 on: May 14, 2005, 03:41:16 PM

Again, maybe the directors cut does something different with it.

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