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Reply #315 on: March 25, 2020, 01:49:14 PM

Main problem with working from home is that most people I work with don't have a ton of stuff they can do from home. So everyone is going stupidly bonkers coming up with ideas in Discord. I was sent an email today saying I need to sign up (I was waiting to be told, I know what a shitshow it's going to be in there). Everyone with a pet project is abusing this opportunity and the worst idealists (who hate me for bringing them down with things like priorities, appropriateness, or even basic sense) are running wild.

Worse, the boss has decided she doesn't want to do calls or email anymore (see above, she's running herself ragged trying to be a superhero), so now important announcements are buried in Discord chat. Without an official email update. For things like 'we're extending our work-at-home policy for 2 more weeks to mid-April'  Ohhhhh, I see. I found out because the fiancee had to get into the Discord thing early (ordered to).

Meanwhile, I've been going in and getting a few computers at a time and getting a ton of shit off my backlog. I've been constantly denied when I request setting up a VPN so I can work remotely (for 20 years straight), so they can kinda go fuck themselves now. I've got more work lined up than I can finish, even with the extra 2 weeks I officially have not been informed about  Ohhhhh, I see. But I'm being given all these 'online' tasks that everyone has to do, because nobody else has enough actual work, so it's getting in the way of me doing actual work (I probably could've finished the majority of my backlog just having 3ish weeks of uninterrupted workbench time!).

Jfc these people are bad at this and everyone rushing to pretend they're good at it. I'm in an almost perfect place (would be better if I could vpn to my servers), but my morale is in the shitter because I'm not being left alone to work. Blah.

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Reply #316 on: March 25, 2020, 02:19:51 PM

One more decent day in Italy (I always use adjectives with the utmost respect for those families who lost a dear one of course), experts are saying that the curve is definitely stabilizing, but it's going to be a slow process.

Curve today is at +7,54% (compared to 13,9%,  8,2 and 8,1 of the last three days). Good day for recovered people too, with +1034 (a decent increase compared to yesterday's 834), but unfortunately 683 deaths (less than yesterday's 743).

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Reply #317 on: March 25, 2020, 02:42:47 PM

Here in Minnesota the governor has issued a two week shelter in place order starting Friday.  287 cases so far with 122 recovered. 26 hospitalized.  Still only one death.

On the brighter side the ending of flu season has brought ICU availability from 5% to 15%.
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Reply #318 on: March 25, 2020, 02:52:22 PM

Figured I'd check in with you guys after a pretty stressful week. As some of you know, I run a public facing business, so a lot to worry about.

We've gone from business as usual with a lot more sanitizing and removed condiments and table knickknacks to spreading out seating to only to-go orders to finally just shutting down last night. Mind you, we could still be open for delivery or take out (restaurants are considered necessary) but it just seemed prudent. Good news is that employees are covered to some degree by unemployment compensation for time lost to the virus, and good for them that they have to do nothing, their employer applies for them. Of course the government website where that information needs to be entered was overloaded and effectively down for 48 hours, but they finally got entered.

So now we wait. Hope the internet stays up.
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Reply #319 on: March 25, 2020, 03:05:06 PM

Here in Minnesota the governor has issued a two week shelter in place order starting Friday.  287 cases so far with 122 recovered. 26 hospitalized.  Still only one death.

Mississippi is close to your curve now - 377 cases out of 1943 tested with only 2 deaths. Unfortunately, our governor is following the federal lead of "we have to get the economy working again soon" and hasn't put in any sort of shelter-in-place orders, just a general avoid people, work from home if you can type of feeling. Individual cities have done more depending on the city with some having actual curfews. Schools are closed statewide through like April 17. I fear we're going to be one of the cases that opens back up too soon and gets a serious snapback second wave.

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Reply #320 on: March 25, 2020, 03:26:48 PM

In listening to the briefings what they are doing here is incredibly nuanced.  They are running disease projection models along side with economic models and trying to keep people as safe as they can while minimizing economic damage as much as they can.

Quite a juggling act with lives quite literally on the line.
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Reply #321 on: March 25, 2020, 04:35:10 PM

So Washington has moved to "Stay home stay safe" model. Which as near as I can tell is a slightly more serious stay home you idiots. They are closing down more retail stores but honestly most of them were already closed.

The company I work for is considered essential so we are not shutting down. And honestly the Agriculture market is pretty hot right now with sales being up. With the recent decision by foreign governments to stop shipping some agricultural products internationally it might kick-start a ugly price inflation on food.

Our office is slowly pushing the people home that they can. Some people for the life of me resist working from home and we cannot get them to stay home since it is "optional" for some people right now... Its a generational thing and I find it really frustrating.

Its interesting to hear people react to the Governor Cuomo and Governor Inslee, Personally I feel like they are doing a fair job of balancing peoples lives and businesses and communicating what is going on and the decisions they are making. However there is lots of anger towards the Governor's from the people that lost jobs or are living paycheck to paycheck. Its a rough go and I feel really bad for the people affected and the medicine for this is a pretty rough pill to swallow and impacts them disproportionately.

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Reply #322 on: March 25, 2020, 04:47:06 PM

New York has slowed the spread somewhat. We've gone from it doubling every 2.5 days to every 4.5 days. It's still getting worse, but maybe we can make it more manageable. 

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #323 on: March 25, 2020, 05:06:44 PM

I feel very encouraged that the epidemiological specialists are in fact thinking in sophisticated ways alongside the economists etc.--I honestly was too pessimistic about that. The experts at the heart of this actually seem to recognize the holistic character of the problem.
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Reply #324 on: March 25, 2020, 05:27:39 PM

I fear that there is going to be some crazy backlash when this is all said and done and DOESN'T kill millions here in the Murica. Whole lot of voting mouth breathers are going to look at the shattered economy and low death rate and conclude they could have avoided the depression/recession if we all would've worked thru it. These are also the same fucks that don't give 2 shits about someone else dying as long as it ain't them and their families.

I can't quite get passed the irony that there was just a short time ago there was all this talk about how the boomers were fucking the country and along comes the plague that targets them in particular. Funny that...

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Reply #325 on: March 25, 2020, 05:39:04 PM

US is rapidly approaching a doubling of infections every two days and will have passed China in total reported infections by the end of this week So the chances of this are getting lower by the hour
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Reply #326 on: March 25, 2020, 05:39:54 PM

Kind of curious to know how this is turning out in India.  I was half expecting the place to turn into "Zombie Apocalypse Land" if it got a hold over there, but news has been almost completely silent regarding the country.  Then again, it's India, so I wouldn't put it past being possible that people over there are dropping like flies, but because they are all dying in home instead of crushing their hospital system that it doesn't appear nearly as bad as it actually is.

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Reply #327 on: March 25, 2020, 05:41:11 PM

Kind of curious to know how this is turning out in India.  I was half expecting the place to turn into "Zombie Apocalypse Land" if it got a hold over there, but news has been almost completely silent regarding the country.  Then again, it's India, so I wouldn't put it past being possible that people over there are dropping like flies, but because they are all dying in home instead of crushing their hospital system that it doesn't appear nearly as bad as it actually is.

I have the same opinion about India, but let's hope for the best  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #328 on: March 25, 2020, 05:44:46 PM

Kind of curious to know how this is turning out in India.  I was half expecting the place to turn into "Zombie Apocalypse Land" if it got a hold over there, but news has been almost completely silent regarding the country.  Then again, it's India, so I wouldn't put it past being possible that people over there are dropping like flies, but because they are all dying in home instead of crushing their hospital system that it doesn't appear nearly as bad as it actually is.

They just implement a two week (?) shelter in place lockdown for the entire country.
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Reply #329 on: March 25, 2020, 06:55:01 PM

I feel as if there will be an untold history of this in states that are controlling or suppressing information about what's been happening.
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Reply #330 on: March 25, 2020, 07:15:16 PM

what's untold

assume the worst and then put some jesus on it

and yeah, the US numbers are bogus because we aren't testing enough

the china numbers are bogus because they're fucking liars with no regard for life at all
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Reply #331 on: March 25, 2020, 07:23:07 PM

Wish we all lived in New Zealand.

They are a western democracy entirely locked down. They used a tsunami/volcano/earthquake warning system they already had in place. The entire nation was told: "where you are tonight, you are to remain".

Meanwhile the only thing the Australian PM has tweeted in the last 24 hours is the reversal of a 30-minute limit on hairdressing appointments.
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Reply #332 on: March 25, 2020, 08:15:46 PM

Spanish Nursing Home Residents Found Living in Squalor Near Bodies of Suspected Coronavirus Victims

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Defense Minister Margarita Robles said the elderly residents were “completely left to fend for themselves, or even dead, in their beds.” She said the discovery over the weekend included several nursing homes but did not name them or say how many bodies were found.
  ACK!

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Reply #333 on: March 25, 2020, 08:52:33 PM

This may or not be news,  but apparantly Iceland has been testing a lot of people there and half of the people who test positive has no symptoms at all.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/features/2020/03/25/Coronavirus-Iceland-s-mass-testing-finds-half-of-carriers-show-no-symptoms


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Reply #334 on: March 25, 2020, 09:12:39 PM

Spanish Nursing Home Residents Found Living in Squalor Near Bodies of Suspected Coronavirus Victims

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Defense Minister Margarita Robles said the elderly residents were “completely left to fend for themselves, or even dead, in their beds.” She said the discovery over the weekend included several nursing homes but did not name them or say how many bodies were found.
  ACK!

Happens predictably in every bad hurricane in the US as well. It's not that surprising in terms of what people who work in nursing homes are paid or how they're treated.
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Reply #335 on: March 25, 2020, 09:34:10 PM

This may or not be news,  but apparantly Iceland has been testing a lot of people there and half of the people who test positive has no symptoms at all.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/features/2020/03/25/Coronavirus-Iceland-s-mass-testing-finds-half-of-carriers-show-no-symptoms



Testing positive, having symptoms, and being contagious are not all the same thing.

It is possible you have Herpes, but have never had symptoms.

There is still no concrete evidence that this virus is transmissible before symptoms (even the most mild) appear.

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Reply #336 on: March 25, 2020, 09:58:00 PM

Hospital workers at New York's Mount Sinai West hospital apparently lack personal protection equipment and had to wear trash bags instead. A 48-year-old assistant nursing manager there has just died of the virus.

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Reply #337 on: March 25, 2020, 11:22:18 PM

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If this trend continues, it will unequivocally prove the shelter in place method successful.

That’s still a shit ton of hospitalizations, but the more spread out they are, the better chance people have to live. That’s the goal.



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Reply #338 on: March 25, 2020, 11:53:40 PM

It's not rocket surgery. If you cut down on close physical interactions by several orders of magnitude, infections drop.

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Reply #339 on: March 26, 2020, 12:05:02 AM

Yeah here's a visualization of how "stay the fuck at home" affects the spread:


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Reply #340 on: March 26, 2020, 12:08:49 AM

I'm constantly wondering what the new normal is going to look like.  So far the plan seems to be eventually in the months or more likely years ahead we will develop a vaccine until then we just slow down the spread so it happens at a rate the hospitals can handle.  So what does that mean?  Restaurants and public facing businesses shut down until the disease is eliminated in your local area?  No more international travel?  interstate travel?  in state travel?  Until either A) a significant percentage of the population has already contracted it  or B) we have a vaccine...  Just seems crazy and surreal even thinking these things but the writing is kind of on the wall.  Maybe we will see the TSA doing virus screening.

There is still no concrete evidence that this virus is transmissible before symptoms (even the most mild) appear.

Is there any evidence to the contrary?  I bring that up because if there isn't then this is just a bullshit pointless statement.  Most of the planned screening i've seen involves temperature readings, if the scary facebook story posted earlier is true maybe runny nose guy just has to wipe his nose and starts touching things before having an abnormal temperature reading.

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Summary: Infectious disease researchers studying the novel coronavirus were able to identify how quickly the virus can spread, a factor that may help public health officials in their efforts at containment. They found that time between cases in a chain of transmission is less than a week and that more than 10 percent of patients are infected by somebody who has the virus but does not yet have symptoms.
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Reply #341 on: March 26, 2020, 02:12:39 AM

The spread seems completely remarkable if it isn't spreading before symptoms.

As for the new normal, yeah, unless it turns out we all already have it and will either get symptoms or immunity soon, I don't see how return to normal happens.

Regardless of official advice when is it sensible for an uninfected family to ever visit a restaurant? Do workplaces have to maintain 2 m separation forever? The economic fallout if this just sort of tails off rather than has a specific answer seems awful.

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Reply #342 on: March 26, 2020, 02:38:49 AM

The only good thing from this catastrophe is that there isn't everybody right up in your face anymore. Might be my Aspergers talking, but I got to tell somebody yesterday he should take the next elevator instead of cramming himself into the one I was taking. Man, that felt good.

I really and selfishly hope that is the death of those hugging and appendage grabbing rituals for good.
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Reply #343 on: March 26, 2020, 03:03:07 AM

Well, some hugging and appendage grabbing might still be okay.

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Reply #344 on: March 26, 2020, 03:09:32 AM

Sure, with the SO, and for fun. But that should be it.
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Reply #345 on: March 26, 2020, 03:46:26 AM


https://twitter.com/MichaelRapaport/status/1242931495460671489

Maybe it should go in the politics thread, but I just kinda think everyone might like this one.

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Reply #346 on: March 26, 2020, 08:12:50 AM

Turns out chloroquine does fuck all.

Researcher who claimed it helped has about as reliable a record as the autism=vaccines guy. A correctly conducted Chinese study that showed chloroquine did nothing was ignored because this flawed western one said it worked.
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Reply #347 on: March 26, 2020, 08:25:34 AM

Kind of curious to know how this is turning out in India.  I was half expecting the place to turn into "Zombie Apocalypse Land" if it got a hold over there, but news has been almost completely silent regarding the country.  Then again, it's India, so I wouldn't put it past being possible that people over there are dropping like flies, but because they are all dying in home instead of crushing their hospital system that it doesn't appear nearly as bad as it actually is.

They just implement a two week (?) shelter in place lockdown for the entire country.

Looks like police is beating down whoever put his nose outside (from al jazeera english twitter feed):

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1243160778720468993

Oh, and push-ups!

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Reply #348 on: March 26, 2020, 09:52:10 AM

I definitely feel like there are countries that are hiding the scale of their own outbreaks, and that's bad, because it's obscuring knowledge about the disease that the world desperately needs to have.
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Reply #349 on: March 26, 2020, 09:56:38 AM

Hiding and/or simply unable to manage it in a way that gives any good information.

And my old shop teacher would have made them do those push-ups over, shameful.

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