Eve Online

[Comstar]

So, this all started, 350+ dead Titans, an invasion halted (there were 3 FAILED break out attempts today, including one an hour before the Meta Show when 2000 Goons were online already) and the biggest online battle in history (6800 in one system)...

...when one 6 month old newbee got a single hit on a cyno-jammer a second before it went online....

Ceric posted:

    I was with acids fleet. There was a pretty big fight on the jammer and mid way we all got told to put DPS on the jammer. We pulled back to the keep star. One guy went in solo in a interceptor but couldn’t put enough DPS on it. I was on the second wave me in the last interceptor and 5 jackdaws but I don’t know if they made it through the bubbles. I got one crit in the jammer (135)! Before we got welped. I know they had a second crew standing by not sure what happened I dropped after I got podded.

[Comstar]

Also, Bat  Country was at the M2- battles on the Pandemic Horde side. We didn't cross paths, they didn't lose anything so I'm guessing it wasn't in many ships. It would be interesting to hear their perspective.

Unfortyunaly the only place anyone ever talks about Eve these days is the Something Awful thread and reddit/eve. I miss Kugu. And Endie's movies.

Kismeteer got a tag on a NC. Titan so well done continuing to work for Goonswarm there. Looks like some of their supers are still trapped in system, along with 40-60% of the rest of supers.

The iHub comes out of timer in a day or so, if they lose it, Goonswarm can keep the system jammed and the trapped fleet is doomed to sit off-line for 30+ days. Their attempts to rescue them so far have been increasingly pathetic, but the iHub is their best chance to get out.


Best Movie I've seen. The voice over is The Mittani in his pre-battle speech State of the Goonion.

There are rumors that the Mittani has offered PANFAM and NC. their hostages back, in exchange for leaving TEST/Legecy to die.

[slog]

Stuff like this is why I loved to follow Eve.  I could never figure out how to make money besides macroing on an alt.


(linked because the image is too big)
https://i.imgur.com/0ChYaB8.png

[Comstar]

That's a scam.

PAPI is now offering WAR BONDS after spending months making fun of Goonswarm's 1 billion for 10% return.

The PAPI supercapital fleet of 40-60% of ships are still hellcaged like it's PR- from a decade ago.


Looks Bat Country is just Kismeeter and Baltec. We still run Baltec fleets in his honor.

[slog]

That's a scam.

PAPI is now offering WAR BONDS after spending months making fun of Goonswarm's 1 billion for 10% return.

The PAPI supercapital fleet of 40-60% of ships are still hellcaged like it's PR- from a decade ago.


Looks Bat Country is just Kismeeter and Baltec. We still run Baltec fleets in his honor.

Yea, I know it's a scam.  Stuff like that is what makes Eve so great.  Player actions actually mean something.

[Comstar]

Hostile numbers are decreasing. We blew up their Fortizar in M2- which is now also bubbled. I was there tonight at downtime and they logged in 100+ Titan's but didn't do anything, I think they were bookmarking their location and bubbles for the weekend.

https://www.captiongenerator.com/2093412/PAPI-Offensive-on-M2-XFE - Video of the PAPI FC

https://www.captiongenerator.com/2095792/The-News-at-900-Battle-of-M2-XFE - Video of the Goon FC.\

[Korachia]

This is an amazing comeback. What´s your chances right about now Comstar?

[Comstar]

The invasion of Delve has stopped and being reversed like it's the gates of Moscow and Napoleon is retreading in the snow.

(1:22:00 PM) directorbot: A LITTLE UPDATE ON THE M2 HELLCAMP: We've had our guys working hard on figuring out how many hostile titans are trapped in M2. A bunch of work with locators has gone into this, and as best as we can tell, 334 out of the 724 hostile titans are still stuck in m2.

Enemy systems iHubs and starbases are being blown up. Battles are still ongoing, a big one last night almost succeeded in saving it but failed at the last moment. The enemy still owns large chucks of Delve, Querious, Period Basis and Fountion. There's a long road ahead before the enemy is cleared.

TEST and Legacy, who live next door, would be next.


Their morale is shattered right now and will take time to rebuild. But I would say Delve is safe and will not fall in this campaign.


edit- All Goonswarm Titan's have been replaced/reimbursed and the Bonds offer is now closed.

2:17:52 PM) directorbot: It takes a lot of :effort: to run locators on 700+ passpi nerds; the credit for this information goes to the blazer crew with penguinbacon doing some hero shit and helping coordinate the process with the blazing crew who really stepped up here. A bunch of work now conveniently put into an adash scan so you can see the by-alliance breakdown of what we believe is trapped in m2 currently.

note that the count is updated to 337, not 334 - big number go up :v:
https://adashboard.info/intel/local/view/XYdXLro0

93 TEST
69 Horde (nice)
61 FRT
61 NC
20 PL
12 Brave
etc

Above 35 Trillion ISK, maybe up to 80T.

[Korachia]

Incredible. The amount of assets and fleetpower trapped. This would be like if Napoleons troops where caught in a kesselschlacht around Borisov without option to retreat over the river.

What do you think the plans are for Horde, TEST and NC? Or has this cataclysm already created fractures in their unified command?

[Comstar]

Surprisingly to me, there hasn't been any news of any breakup in papi*. The Mittani is actively saying that TEST is next. PL and the others live on then other side of the galaxy and don't have anything to lose but haven't left yet. With the rest of Eve all blue to each other, they wouldn't have much to fight either.

It reminds me very much of the month after SirMolle lost his Titan and got locked up in PR- for a month.


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* - papi dosn't have any caps left

[Comstar]

The Mittani's fireside chat from today

He's offering ONE GOLDEN TICKET to not-test to pay for ONE alliance to get their their Titan's out. Whoever pays the most gets their Titan's out.


papi no longer outnumbers their enemies in time zone.

[Sir T]

Its that kind of sadistic crap that keeps theMittani logging in. He wont want this to end.

[Korachia]

So deliciosly evil!



Who is most likely to jump upon this?

[slog]

The Mittani's fireside chat from today

He's offering ONE GOLDEN TICKET to not-test to pay for ONE alliance to get their their Titan's out. Whoever pays the most gets their Titan's out.


papi no longer outnumbers their enemies in time zone.

Smart way to divide their coalition.

[Comstar]

NC. or PL. I'm surprised one of them haven't yet.

[Korachia]

Any takers of the ticket?

[Comstar]

None that I have heard of. The M2- camp continues. A couple of Titans have logged in and been blown up, some blowing themselves up to avoid the shame.

[slog]

None that I have heard of. The M2- camp continues. A couple of Titans have logged in and been blown up, some blowing themselves up to avoid the shame.

At some point the pilot being stuck in the camp makes it not worth waiting it out.

[Comstar]

I've been busy pushing and writing battle reports about 19th century Napoleonic warfare so haven't been logging in much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJpwrAVivgM

Vily gets 8 fleets formed for Operation Titan Rescue. Vily gets Horde to login their Supercarriers in to test the waters...gets his own personal Titan out...and then gives up. The Supercarriers get blown up and Vily retreats with his own ship now safe.


This would be the part of the TV series where the bad guy reveals he treats his minions as well as you expect a bad guy to do.

[Baldrake]

I've been feeling the urge to jump into Eve again. Please talk me down.

[Sir T]

Its Eve. The only winning move is not to play.

I've been feeling an urge recently myself. CCP must have gotten hold of the One Ring again.

[ghost]

I've been feeling the urge to jump into Eve again. Please talk me down.

Why would you ever do this?  Eve is awful. 

[Endie]

I've been feeling the urge to jump into Eve again. Please talk me down.

Why would you ever do this?  Eve is awful. 

True story I stopped playing Eve and got promoted three times in two and a half years. Don't play Eve. If you know anyone who plays Eve, persuade them to stop or, failing that, encourage them to take up desomorphine as it is more fun and less harmful.

[Setanta]

I finally pulled the plug on my last account.

The game is just meh now.

[Khaldun]

Those last two posts need to be preserved in amber or something. They feel like something a revolutionary would say five years after the revolution. I am not criticizing. I'm actually sad in saying so.

[Teleku]

I remain very sad that everybody made 1,000 EQ clones and nobody tried to make a better version of Eve.

[Sir T]

A Russian Game called Star Wolves was a Single player game that used the Eve movement system. I replay it and its sequel occasionally.

But ya, there has been more Sea Pirate MMGs than space ones.

[Kageru]

Eve came at a time when the novelty of MMO's was enough to overcome the mechanical limits of the gameplay, so it got the chance to build a very dedicated population which made the social systems work. EQ was the same, but it was easier to extend the gameplay and make it more PvE focused... though even then, not that many MMO's around these days outside of Korean PvP grinders.

I notice Perpetuum is still around on steam, and how that was touted as an eve-alike.

So is Eve reaching another point on it's decline? Can't imagine it's drawing in huge numbers of new players.

[Endie]

So is Eve reaching another point on it's decline? Can't imagine it's drawing in huge numbers of new players.

The weird thing is how long the tail is proving with Eve. It is in decline, and short of a step-change in gameplay that must surely continue. But its half life seems to be about a decade: 60k peak online in late 2010, still c.30k just over ten years on. Masses of alts contribute to the PCU figure, of course, but that has been the case since forever, so probably doesn't directly affect the first or second derivatives of the curve.



The trend on the number of new accounts being set up - discounting the spikes after big fights - is surprisingly healthy (apologies for the lack of a timescale but the site doesn't add one: it's the same period as the first graph, however).  But Eve is clearly unable to keep them at a rate fast enough to make up for the haemorrhaging of older players. There are also a bunch of reasons (based either in gameplay or psychology) why existing players set up alts that then rarely log in, or which do so only for minutes at a time without adding to the number of paying accounts.

[Sir T]

I don't know what it says about my unconscious mind, but I quite often dream that I'm roaming around in Eve. Well, its cheaper than a sub!

[Kageru]

There must be some point at which space becomes sufficiently empty that there is no social / emergent game-play to keep people engaged and the decline steepens. In addition to the inevitable power creep of the game required to keep the veterans interested but presenting a wall to new players. And I guess those two interact in that it was the big wars that had a hunger for new blood.

Though yes, that is one impressive tail for such a limited game, I guess it still owns the niche in which it lives pretty solidly.