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Raguel
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on: June 18, 2019, 11:47:39 AM


 I actually enjoyed this movie. Some really good moments, even though it's obvious some actors don't really want to be there.
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Reply #1 on: June 22, 2019, 11:22:14 PM

I mean, would you want to be?

Imagine making this crap when those other guys are over there making the MCU.
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Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 02:40:47 PM

I watched it. There are two types of X-Men movies. Good ones that might not hold up over time but are still decent, and really fucking bad ones.

This was terrible from start to finish, so the latter. Just an utter waste of time and talent (i.e. MacAvoy). Jennifer Lawrence so clearly did not want to be there that her character was basically just repeating lines she spoke to her agent. Jessica Chastain and that entire alien race subplot was just pants on head retarded.

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Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 07:36:32 PM

To be fair, they were faced with two problems midstream - they all knew the Disney merger was coming, and their "franchise" was likely done, and they discovered their story had a lot of overlap with upcoming Marvel, so they had to change it.

Have not seen it.  Knew it'd be bad.  Will eventually see it when bored.  Will regret it, most likely, but I saw the rest of the films, so what the hell.

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Reply #4 on: May 18, 2020, 07:59:47 PM

I watched it. There are two types of X-Men movies. Good ones that might not hold up over time but are still decent, and really fucking bad ones.

This was terrible from start to finish, so the latter. Just an utter waste of time and talent (i.e. MacAvoy). Jennifer Lawrence so clearly did not want to be there that her character was basically just repeating lines she spoke to her agent. Jessica Chastain and that entire alien race subplot was just pants on head retarded.

There's two types of X-men movies. Bad ones that may have some good scenes in them, and Logan.
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Reply #5 on: May 18, 2020, 08:08:49 PM

I watched it. There are two types of X-Men movies. Good ones that might not hold up over time but are still decent, and really fucking bad ones.

This was terrible from start to finish, so the latter. Just an utter waste of time and talent (i.e. MacAvoy). Jennifer Lawrence so clearly did not want to be there that her character was basically just repeating lines she spoke to her agent. Jessica Chastain and that entire alien race subplot was just pants on head retarded.

There's two types of X-men movies. Bad ones that may have some good scenes in them, and Logan.
I'll say that the very first X-Men movie, for the time, was good.  It doesn't hold up today, but it was a huge stride forward.

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Reply #6 on: May 18, 2020, 08:39:51 PM

In terms of a team of superheroes not looking ridiculous, and decent superpower special effects sure it was "good". There was also some casting that ended up being great eventually. In terms of plot, structure, and some of the dialogue, it was bad then and it's bad now. I was pretty underwhelmed when I saw it in the theater and never really revisited it until a year or two back. It was a little better than I remembered but still not what I would consider good.

Likewise X2 tends to be remembered fondly, but really it's just the Nightcrawler at the White House scene and the attack on the mansion that made the movie seem better than it actually was. I did like First Class and Days of Future Past when I saw them. I think there was more to like in them than the first two X-men movies, but I still don't think either of them was telling a particularly interesting story and First Class has some very uninteresting villains.

Last Stand, Apocalypse, and the first Wolverine movie are terrible. The second Wolverine movie is fine but I'll never be compelled to watch it again, and I barely remember it now. Continuity between the movies is horrendous ensuring the franchise won't even hold up as something worth rewatching even if it didn't end on two of the worst movies.

The Deadpool movies are dumb fun and watchable enough. That's really the most charitable I can be about anything other than Logan. It's the only X-men related movie in the franchise that I was ever eager to rewatch.
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Reply #7 on: May 21, 2020, 10:25:49 AM

This guy did a clipless review of Dark Phoenix using toys and it was pretty hilarious. Probably could substitute for actually seeing the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46jXZRGp01I

Likewise X2 tends to be remembered fondly, but really it's just the Nightcrawler at the White House scene and the attack on the mansion that made the movie seem better than it actually was.

I really enjoyed the performance of the man who played the main villain in X2. Absolute joy to watch, in my opinion.
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Reply #8 on: May 21, 2020, 06:09:23 PM

Brian Cox? He's great in everything. You should watch Succession.

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Reply #9 on: May 21, 2020, 07:30:55 PM

Finally saw this.  Wow.  So bad.

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Reply #10 on: May 21, 2020, 08:35:25 PM

This guy did a clipless review of Dark Phoenix using toys and it was pretty hilarious. Probably could substitute for actually seeing the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46jXZRGp01I

Likewise X2 tends to be remembered fondly, but really it's just the Nightcrawler at the White House scene and the attack on the mansion that made the movie seem better than it actually was.

I really enjoyed the performance of the man who played the main villain in X2. Absolute joy to watch, in my opinion.

He's good but the odd thing there was using Styker as the main villain given that his only appearance in the comics prior to that was in one graphic novel 20 years before X2 came out. Obviously not something the general audience would care about but a bit baffling regardless.
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Reply #11 on: May 21, 2020, 10:33:45 PM

The video review done with action figures was about 100X more entertaining than this movie.

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