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on: July 22, 2017, 04:14:20 PM

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Reply #1 on: July 22, 2017, 04:24:30 PM

i'm like really upset this exists and is popular enough for spielberg to like, care about

Lucky Wander Boy would make the MUCH better movie. Also, DB Weiss should have that pull by now.
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Reply #2 on: July 22, 2017, 04:49:32 PM

i'm like really upset this exists and is popular enough for spielberg to like, care about

This is God's honest. The book was trite and boring.

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Reply #3 on: July 22, 2017, 06:56:30 PM

i'm like really upset this exists and is popular enough for spielberg to like, care about

This is God's honest. The book was trite and boring.

+1 +1 , the movie looks even worse.


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Reply #4 on: July 23, 2017, 07:44:31 AM

i'm like really upset this exists and is popular enough for spielberg to like, care about

This is God's honest. The book was trite and boring.

I never read it, the trailer makes it look like the tone is an out-of-touch Boomer's understanding of youth geek culture in the mid 2000's.

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Reply #5 on: July 23, 2017, 07:47:23 AM

see, I thought it just looked like pandering fanservice garbage written by a moron
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Reply #6 on: July 23, 2017, 08:09:23 AM

Same difference.

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Reply #7 on: July 23, 2017, 09:07:38 AM

I disliked the book, and this looks faithful to it.
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Reply #8 on: July 23, 2017, 09:28:52 AM

I don't understand why Spielberg is involved with this garbage. Did someone have blackmail material on him?
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Reply #9 on: July 23, 2017, 11:50:54 AM

I think Spielberg's ability to choose good material has been suspect for years.

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Reply #10 on: July 23, 2017, 12:20:16 PM

I genuinely thought I'd be in a minority hating on the book.  And yet here we are.

To say something positive ;  looks like it's more suited to being a movie.   awesome, for real

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Reply #11 on: July 23, 2017, 07:43:43 PM

I guess I'll be in the minority - I liked the book.

I have no real hope of it being a decent movie though.
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Reply #12 on: July 24, 2017, 09:06:55 AM

This was The Davinci Code all over again for me.  At a base, simple level, the story is fun.  Puzzle solving mystery that is overall well paced.  Stupid old-timey adventure fun.

But both books were written at such a low level it was insulting.  It's like, grown adults recommending Goosebump books to read as the most amazing novels ever.  I mean, they are totally great if you have the brain of a third grader, but.......

The strange upside for me on this is that the movie has a significantly higher chance of being more enjoyable than the book.

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Reply #13 on: July 24, 2017, 10:56:23 AM

What about grown adults recommending Goosebumps would surprise you?  Everything is Young Adult fiction these days.  I'll add that I'm of the camp that thought the book was a fine, quick read but have no expectations for the movie at all.  This is straight-to-Netflix for me.
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Reply #14 on: July 24, 2017, 11:16:35 AM

I found the book fun because I understood most of the 70s/80s pop culture references. That said it was no great work of literature, just a quick summer read. I'll wait for the Netflix release too.
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Reply #15 on: July 24, 2017, 12:03:51 PM

What about grown adults recommending Goosebumps would surprise you?  Everything is Young Adult fiction these days. 

That's because most adults are dumb.

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Reply #16 on: July 24, 2017, 12:30:47 PM

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The average reading level of American adults is about 7th to 8th grade level. A readability score is given as a “grade level,” but a score doesn't tell us whether an adult with a specific level of education will be able to read the text.

http://www.clearlanguagegroup.com/readability/

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Reply #17 on: July 24, 2017, 01:35:24 PM

Not that that's "dumb", mind you. On the 40L Test, the words representing those grade levels are:
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7 collegiate aspiration psychiatrist entrepreneur surveillance
   impetuous provisional jurisprudence manifold coordinate
8 pseudonym myopic gracious exhaust inconsiderate
   emphasize negligence seminary antithesis renaissance
And either way, the vocabulary isn't as important to my enjoyment as the degree to which a book holds my hand while I follow the story. Ready Player One does a lot of hand-holding.

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Reply #18 on: July 24, 2017, 02:21:12 PM

TIL I don't have a 12th grade reading level ... 

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Reply #19 on: July 24, 2017, 02:51:38 PM

The thing I disliked about the book is that it thinks the basic set-up of the virtual world, its creator and the players is *good* (setting it against the dystopic failure of material life on Earth). Whereas it seemed to me that a virtual world that could be anything but is instead stuck in a nostalgic act of personal self-gratification and that uses a sick contest to compel the entire world to be stuck in that self-gratification is more dystopic than the trailer-park piles that people live in.

It's like if Elon Musk had himself frozen in a tube and promised to pay a zillion dollars to the first person who hand-built a hyperloop between San Francisco and Los Angeles and half the people in the country bled out or died of dehydration while trying. Doesn't matter that there's a Golden Ticket at the end, the whole thing is a fucking nightmare.
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Reply #20 on: July 24, 2017, 04:53:00 PM

That's part of what I meant by "hand-holding". Better stories give their characters and institutions levels of conflicted truth. We make judgments based on subtext and complexity. Ready Player One is an ornate but simplistic fairy tale, with its thumb so firmly on the morality scales that there's no need to speculate about exactly what the writer wants us to think.

I like it when authors are comfortable with their own deaths, rather than feeling it necessary to carve Egyptian murals all over the tomb to remind perpetuity of exactly how they wanted to be remembered. The best art, in my mind, is a unique conversation between its creator and every single member of the audience.

Writing is a form with all the flexibility required to turn that chat into a lecture.
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Reply #21 on: July 24, 2017, 05:00:30 PM

The book was boring because it was essentially Charlie and the Chocolate Factory filtered through all the worst pop culture references of a stand up comic whose entire act is "remember Strawberry Shortcake? What was up with that?"

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Reply #22 on: July 24, 2017, 05:41:56 PM

If you are going to read pulpy garbage please just get into the WH40k Heresey novels or Battletech not into whatever that book was. But I don't hold the kind of ill will towards the book that would stop me from saying a trailer looked good. This one didn't do anything for me until the end, bad voiceover saying really stupid shit, visuals that are supposed to wow me but didn't zzzz but the whole corporate drone racing bit into fun future bike racing was kinda cool. Can't be worse than pod racing.

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Reply #23 on: July 24, 2017, 06:06:54 PM

I really feel like I read a different book than some of you.

A pity.
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Reply #24 on: July 24, 2017, 06:13:00 PM

It's possible you like garbage, Soulflame.
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Reply #25 on: July 24, 2017, 06:36:43 PM

The main problem I had with the book was the deux ex machina... that and the 'world' was so shallow as it not even exist.

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Reply #26 on: July 24, 2017, 06:48:10 PM

I swear the author was under contract to make as many 80's references a page as possible. WE FUCKING GET IT.

Airport novel.

I actually enjoyed the first Space Marine novel..:P~~

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Reply #27 on: July 24, 2017, 07:59:47 PM

No matter the source material, Spielberg will make a marvellous, entertaining movie that ultimately falls flat, leaves you cold, and disappoints you as a sci-fi fan, yearning again for what could have been, had Denis Villeneuve, Neil Blomkamp, Rian Johnson or even Duncan Jones directed it.

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Reply #28 on: July 24, 2017, 08:13:27 PM

I thought the book was good fun, but obviously nothing serious. It felt like an American version of a Japanese Light Novel, and I'm ok with that.

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Reply #29 on: July 24, 2017, 08:28:32 PM

No matter the source material, Spielberg will make a marvellous, entertaining movie that ultimately falls flat, leaves you cold, and disappoints you as a sci-fi fan, yearning again for what could have been, had Denis Villeneuve, Neil Blomkamp, Rian Johnson or even Duncan Jones directed it.

Quick aside, Neil Blomkamp produces garbage and clearly got lucky with District 9 and even that was 2 hours of someone preaching at me.
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Reply #30 on: July 24, 2017, 09:02:13 PM

No matter the source material, Spielberg will make a marvellous, entertaining movie that ultimately falls flat, leaves you cold, and disappoints you as a sci-fi fan, yearning again for what could have been, had Denis Villeneuve, Neil Blomkamp, Rian Johnson or even Duncan Jones directed it.

Quick aside, Neil Blomkamp produces garbage and clearly got lucky with District 9 and even that was 2 hours of someone preaching at me.

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Reply #31 on: July 24, 2017, 10:43:02 PM

It's possible you like garbage, Soulflame.

Or maybe I found it an enjoyable read, but nothing more than that.

Eh.  I'd think of all audiences, it would resonate with the one here quite well.
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Reply #32 on: July 24, 2017, 11:00:57 PM

People here hate everything.

(I have not read the book and don't plan on it any time soon.)

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Reply #33 on: July 24, 2017, 11:02:52 PM

Too much War Games, not enough Real Genius.
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Reply #34 on: July 24, 2017, 11:45:29 PM

I enjoyed the book as pulp. They don't write great SciFi at nearly a fast enough rate to keep me in reading material. So I read a lot of pulp, and as pulp this wasn't terrible. Not worth re-reading, and I don't feel any burning need to see the movie, but I'm not going to hate on it.

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