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Reply #35 on: July 25, 2017, 09:14:27 AM

They don't write great SciFi at nearly a fast enough rate to keep me in reading material.

You must read a lot of total fucking garbage.
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Reply #36 on: July 25, 2017, 10:28:44 AM

Eh.  I'd think of all audiences, it would resonate with the one here quite well.

You'd think but instead of being right up my alley, it was actually almost insultingly pandering. Like, I might have loved it at 14 but as an adult, it just felt juvenile. Without the pop culture references, I don't think there's anything that rises above Choose Your Own Adventure level plotting. This feels like Scott Pilgrim vs. the World if that movie had not been directed by Edgar Wright but instead by some no-talent hack like McG or Zak Snyder.

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Reply #37 on: July 25, 2017, 10:54:35 AM

I agree with Mahrin.  There's not really a lot of good sci-fi or fantasy available, so I read what I can get.
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Reply #38 on: July 25, 2017, 03:07:39 PM

They don't write great SciFi at nearly a fast enough rate to keep me in reading material.

You must read a lot of total fucking garbage.
Yes. I can read a full novel in a day, less if I really have nothing else to do, more than 100 a year without even really trying. Maybe 6-8 really good SciFi writers right now, putting out maybe a book a year, each, and I have never been able to maintain interest in other genres. And I read the back catalog of everything marginally worthwhile before I was 18. Re-reading most of it is pointless, as I remember all of it (maybe I get halfway through the first chapter before the memory dredge kicks in and I have all the rest at my mental fngertips).

So I read a *lot* of total fucking garbage. RP1 isn't terrible, it just isn't very good. Decent pulp, but other than putting together tropes in a comparatively novel pattern, nothing really creative, either.

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Reply #39 on: July 25, 2017, 08:43:41 PM

Yeah, it's not terrible or anything. Just, smug and a bit tedious and not especially self-aware about the story it's telling.
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Reply #40 on: July 27, 2017, 11:53:13 AM

The book was written for 10-15 year old kids.  If nothing else is has kids asking about Gary Gygax, so it can't be all bad. :)

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Reply #41 on: July 27, 2017, 03:07:05 PM

I disagree it was written for ~40 year olds with 10-15 year old reading levels.

It was obvious and pandering throughout but that being said I enjoyed it on a purely nostalgic level.

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Reply #42 on: March 29, 2018, 05:19:06 PM

anyone biting the bullet on this one this weekend? any reviews from trusted sources that point in one direction or another?

I know the source material is some of the worst young adult crap on offer but it still looks like it could be pretty fun.... ?

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Reply #43 on: March 29, 2018, 06:16:58 PM

See, I even (or especially) hated the nostalgia because it felt evil--some billionaire forcing kids to relieve our own cultural youths rather than create their own culture, just for some desperate hope of overcoming dystopia?
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Reply #44 on: March 29, 2018, 06:20:59 PM

Everything I've heard has been surprisingly positive. Since my move over to a smaller, more arthouse kinda theater though I don't get to see as much at work. Not sure when I'll get around to seeinf it.
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Reply #45 on: March 30, 2018, 05:58:22 AM

The chat is that the utter fucking garbage in the book translates better as 'nods' up on the screen, mostly because there's not paragraphs and paragraphs of fucking wanking.

Seriously, fuck this book.  Movie could be ok, but FUCK THIS BOOK.

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Reply #46 on: March 30, 2018, 07:45:01 AM

Lol, that was exactly my take when I saw they were doing this.  The book was fucking painful, but somehow I was actually a bit excited for the movie.  It seemed like the rare exception where the book to film translation/filtering could make a far more enjoyable story than the source material.  Still holding my breath until everybody starts confirming its not robot Hitler.

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Reply #47 on: March 30, 2018, 09:16:24 AM

I'm not even looking back to see if I said it in this thread (i'm sure I did) but everyone should just read Lucky Wander Boy to see nostalgia done right

i have absolutely zero interest in nostalgia for nostalgias sake
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Reply #48 on: March 30, 2018, 11:13:12 AM

The chat is that the utter fucking garbage in the book translates better as 'nods' up on the screen, mostly because there's not paragraphs and paragraphs of fucking wanking.

Seriously, fuck this book.  Movie could be ok, but FUCK THIS BOOK.


What the Scottish cunt said. I care not one whit for seeing this movie, though the one review I read said it was an enjoyable mad mess.

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Reply #49 on: March 30, 2018, 12:37:34 PM

Lol, that was exactly my take when I saw they were doing this.  The book was fucking painful, but somehow I was actually a bit excited for the movie.  It seemed like the rare exception where the book to film translation/filtering could make a far more enjoyable story than the source material. 

The guy who made Jaws and Jurassic Park might know a bit about making movies that are better than the books.

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Reply #50 on: March 30, 2018, 12:42:03 PM

both of those were excellent books though

this is circlejerk garbage
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Reply #51 on: March 30, 2018, 01:07:08 PM

I never understood the extreme reactions to the book on either side.  It makes great fodder for a summer blockbuster film, why not leave it at that?
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Reply #52 on: March 30, 2018, 01:11:14 PM

both of those were excellent books though

this is circlejerk garbage

Garbage books can make for great films if the director knows how to extract the worthwhile material from the crap and develop it.  Look at Die Hard, and to a lesser extent, The Godfather.
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Reply #53 on: March 30, 2018, 01:12:44 PM

I never understood the extreme reactions to the book on either side.  It makes great fodder for a summer blockbuster film, why not leave it at that?

no one likes it when objective shit gets popular

see: 50 shades of setting women back 20 years
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Reply #54 on: March 30, 2018, 01:35:06 PM

The book deserves the visceral reaction it gets because it is literally a mediocre rewrite of the movie version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, only with pop culture as the treats instead of candy. I don't think there's an original or interesting idea to be found in the entire thing.

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Reply #55 on: March 30, 2018, 01:54:20 PM

Mediocrity deserves a visceral reaction now?
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Reply #56 on: March 30, 2018, 01:58:26 PM

I never understood the extreme reactions to the book on either side.  It makes great fodder for a summer blockbuster film, why not leave it at that?

For me at least, it's because everyone was praising it so highly and saying that it was so relevant to my interest that it transcended just being a spectacularly artless book, and became a crystallized representation of the stupidity of large portions of my social group/culture as a whole.

Also, yes, all of the usual reasons where when something reaaaaaally bad gets popular, dissenting voices feel the need to be ten times as loud to balance all the voices in praise.
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Reply #57 on: March 30, 2018, 02:00:21 PM

Mediocrity deserves a visceral reaction now?

You must be new to the internet.  Everyone has to be outraged at something all the time.

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Reply #58 on: March 30, 2018, 02:02:23 PM

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Reply #59 on: March 30, 2018, 02:07:51 PM

I was getting ready to type out a full paragraph defending a book that I only kind of liked.  What have you people done to me?
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Reply #60 on: March 30, 2018, 02:28:05 PM


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Reply #61 on: March 30, 2018, 02:39:36 PM

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Reply #62 on: March 30, 2018, 02:45:59 PM

I thought the book was alright; not great, but certainly not as awful as most here seem to think it was. I'm waiting for Netflix/Hulu/yarrr for the movie though.

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Reply #63 on: March 30, 2018, 05:57:24 PM

I saw this today.  It wasn't bad.  The movie was better than it probably should have been but it was pure Gen X nostalgia wank, which has more to do with the source material than Spielberg.

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Reply #64 on: March 31, 2018, 07:07:58 AM

Mediocrity deserves a visceral reaction now?

If it's offensive, yeah.

When I was reading it, all I could think is 'This is what this guy thinks of himself.  This is what this guy thinks of his peers.  This is what this guy thinks of us.'

Fuck him.  I doubt anyone on these boards wouldn't be able to get every single fucking reference and understand it, but that doesn't make us the utter fucking wankstains that he is and his characters are portrayed in the book.  He was kicking cripples for the entire length of his novel and he didn't even fucking realise.  Fucking Gamergate as fucking hero and don't even get me started on how women were portrayed.  "Hey, my characters are entirely BROKEN both objectively and subjectively as people, yay !"  This is what I really think, yay !  I have Wil Wheaton on my side, yay !

Fuck this asshole  Fuck his book.  Fuck anyone for making a film out of it and giving him any more money.  Like Notch, I hope he just fucking dies painfully.

But overreacting ?  Nah, I don't think so.   why so serious?



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Reply #65 on: March 31, 2018, 04:21:51 PM

While I might not go so far as Ironwood, I was just offended at how goddamn lazy it was. There wasn't anything redeeming about the book if you removed all the references to '80's pop culture. Then it was just young adult wish fulfillment, which is fine but completely throwaway. If he had been sued by all the copyright holders of the references and forced to remove them all, the story would have been bland, trite and utterly forgettable, and he's not nearly a good enough writer to have made it interesting without any of that. As a writer, I'm mostly offended that this guy got hype and sales for such a shoddy, lazy piece of shit.

But then J.K. Rowling and Stephanie Meyer and that Fifty Shades bitch annoy me for the same reason.  why so serious?

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Reply #66 on: March 31, 2018, 04:49:08 PM

as far as I'm concerned Harry Potter is just Dragonlance fanfiction
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Reply #67 on: March 31, 2018, 08:30:56 PM

So, I was bored and wanted a decent late lunch, and watched this at a 'dinner theater' type place. The burger and fries were good, the movie was a beautiful hot mess.

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Reply #68 on: April 01, 2018, 05:46:27 PM

Spielberg knows how to shoot action scenes and this is one long action scene with a bunch of movie and video game references.  Fairly entertaining and not the massive turd that the book was as it cuts out almost all of the exposition. Zach Penn basically rewrote the entire story with the only real consistency being the basic plot and characters.  Best part of it was probably Mark Rylance as he actually puts some pathos into the thing.

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Reply #69 on: April 02, 2018, 01:34:46 AM

Ready Player One gets a solid C. Basically a kids movie from dream works, there's a moral lesson, a happy ending and even a moment where the villain finds the shrivel remains of his heart. I'm going forget I saw this and was mostly disappointed. Having only heard about but not actually read the books, I'm not really motivated to dig into it but from what my wife tells me the world built in the books is far less shallow and the book doesn't beat on a higher moral principles as the characters seem to oppose the evil corporation because they want to (and eventually have to) and not because its an evil corporation and their the resistance.

So yeah, on one hand I was almost excited to hear that there is a movie that was better than the books but on the other hand now that I've seen the movie I'm left wondering if the book is garbage or people have shit taste.

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