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on: February 10, 2017, 08:44:14 AM

Just wondering if anyone else caught this?
First episode was a few nights ago. Interesting take and makes you wonder throughout what is and isn't real. While watching the GF was saying that she had no idea what the fuck was going on.

Overall I thought it was well done and the guy playing David/Legion was good.

I am not sure how or if they will tie it in to other Marvel/X-Men stories.

Trailer here if you haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SZ3rMMYBLY

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Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 09:28:43 AM

This was pretty amazing, looking forward to more.  Prepared to get a Fight Club ending though.

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Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 09:55:03 AM

I've got it recorded but haven't watched it yet. The guy playing David is the actor who played Matthew on Downton Abbey.

Also, this will not tie into the X-Men universe. It's a separate entity.

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Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 10:07:25 AM

They were dropping the M word left and right at least.

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Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 10:36:28 AM

There seems to be a gazillion comics I've never even heard of... like this one.  Some of them seem to make really good TV.  Hopefully, this will stay good!

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Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 10:37:07 AM

It was interesting, if excessively disjointed and after the first 27mins FILLED with commercials. It was kinda nice to get to hear the M word a few times.
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Reply #6 on: February 10, 2017, 02:29:40 PM

I had it buffered on the dvr, so the commercials weren't too annoying. It was kind of all over the place, but that works for a show about Legion. I think I only read the first few collections of his book, and there were only a couple hints of them in the show. I'm at least interested enough to see where it goes, it's a different and interesting concept in the comics and they've captured some of that feel in the show.

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Reply #7 on: February 10, 2017, 03:35:56 PM

Also, this will not tie into the X-Men universe. It's a separate entity.

The X-Men movies can barely tie into each other properly. Best to avoid that cluster-fuck of a continuity anyway. They have said that David's parentage will likely stay intact although if his father shows up he won't be played by any of the actors who played him in the movies.

Also the writer on this is the showrunner and main writer of the Fargo TV series (at last couple of actors in Legion were in that show as well) .

Overall I really liked the first episode. Even knowing the character there was a lot to piece together here which makes me glad they're only doing an 8 episode first season since I think it will be worth a rewatch after it wraps up.
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Reply #8 on: February 10, 2017, 04:36:29 PM

Legion is another character I know nothing about, and I'd actually forgotten that this was an X-Men thing until about half way through I realised that Rogue was Rogue (after 15 mins trying to work out where we'd seen the actress from, and then the Fargo connections all dropped at once too).

Really enjoyed it, excellently done. Most definitely on the weekly watch list.

Edit: The internet tells me that Bill Sienkiewicz, one of my favourite comic artists, was one of the Legion creators. I'll have to see if I can find some of those comics.
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Reply #9 on: February 10, 2017, 05:46:21 PM

For the Bill Sienkiewicz stuff you'd have to get New Mutants Classic vol. 2 (for issue 25) and vol. 3. Actual physical copies of it can be pricey but I think you can get them digitally. He's a prominent character in the Muir Island Saga but I don't think that's ever really gotten a collection outside of the Essential X-men books which aren't ideal. He also accidentally created the Age of Apocalypse timeline in the lead-up story Legion Quest. More recently he was one of the main characters in X-men Legacy vol. 2 written by Simon Spurrier.
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Reply #10 on: February 10, 2017, 10:16:52 PM

Noah Hawley does cool shit, so I'm looking forward to where he takes this.  Also liked that one of the characters from the mental institution was "Syd Barrett".

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Reply #11 on: February 11, 2017, 08:53:40 AM

I realised that Rogue was Rogue

Is that Rogue? I thought Rogue's powers were to absorb other mutants' powers not body swap with them? I have no comic knowledge though.
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Reply #12 on: February 11, 2017, 10:13:11 AM

I didn't think she was meant to be Rogue.

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Reply #13 on: February 11, 2017, 11:28:37 AM

Thanks Velorath, that's very handy.

I noticed the Syd Barret name too, and in the background music playing in the scenes where they're leaving the hospital there was a threadnthat sounded a lot like something from Dark Side of the Moon. Ironic or delinerate, seeing as how that was recorded after Syd Barret was in a mental hospital barking at the walls...

And yes, you're right, it wasn't Rogue but just a character like her. Alternate reality and all that. Christ, Marvel really do shit up the whole idea of continuity, don't they?

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Reply #14 on: February 12, 2017, 08:04:50 PM

My wife hated this. I thought it was kinda awesome. But I know the history, so there's that. Also, Aubrey Plaza.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #15 on: February 13, 2017, 11:20:01 AM

Watched first 30 minutes and was bored out of my skull. Does it get better?

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Reply #16 on: February 13, 2017, 11:51:25 AM

I was hoping they'd avoid using the shortened 'Syd' and just stick with Syndey, which I still thought was way too obvious, anyway. Overall it's pretty heavy-handed and ham-fisted, I was hoping they could've done a more interesting and nuanced story....but hey, Fox. They generally suck. I was chuckling while watching the new Avengers teaser talking about structuring the Infinity Gauntlet stuff going back to the first Avengers flick and building it through all the movies since...and then there's Fox over in the corner just giggling and randomly throwing stuff into a blender. Maybe Legion is a metaphor for Fox?

Anyway. Follow SinKEVitch, he's got awesome stuff, though he's super political right now.

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Reply #17 on: February 13, 2017, 02:01:33 PM

Anyway. Follow SinKEVitch, he's got awesome stuff, though he's super political right now.

I don't really do Twitter, but I'll have a look :)

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Reply #18 on: February 13, 2017, 02:18:03 PM

I don't either, I follow him on FB.

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Reply #19 on: February 17, 2017, 12:53:50 PM

Don't know anything about this character but I liked the first two episodes. The first episode was kind of dull until the big thing in the middle, but after that it's been very exciting. I don't really care for superheroes much so I don't want to set myself up for disappointment later, but it definitely seems a cut above the Netflix stuff.
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Reply #20 on: February 21, 2017, 11:49:57 AM

This doesn't seem to be superheroes so much as people with super powers. Also, it's really stylish but I shouldn't have watched the 2nd episode while tired. It can make one very drowsy.

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Reply #21 on: March 12, 2017, 08:51:52 AM

This show is still amazing, and now it has Rachel Keller's ass.  Apparently nobody is watching it and it is highly unlikely to get a new season.  This upsets me.

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Reply #22 on: March 12, 2017, 11:46:41 AM

I watch this show and like it but it can be confusing.  I have no idea why someone's ass would make it better.  I guess I'm just not a big ass fan. 

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Reply #23 on: March 12, 2017, 08:39:13 PM

So far I'm seeing no compelling reason they couldn't put this in the fox X-Men universe. If they done that, I'm betting the ratings will be a hell of a lot better.

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Reply #24 on: March 12, 2017, 09:49:43 PM

I watch this show and like it but it can be confusing.  I have no idea why someone's ass would make it better.  I guess I'm just not a big ass fan. 
It is a very nice ass.

But it's supposed to be confusing. All kinds of things are just not meshing, in ways that make it clear they aren't supposed to (fashions are all over the place, technology jumps from 60's to 90's to current to futuristic, and rarely matches the fashions, and that's just what I have noticed).

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Reply #25 on: March 13, 2017, 09:09:39 AM

Yeah, it's intentional weird and the general public isn't all that good with anything not obvious.

I have a feeling this is going to be one of those cult shows that fans bother the stars about for years after.

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Reply #26 on: March 13, 2017, 10:59:04 AM

I think so, too.  It's not confusing in a bad way, more like a Twin Peaksy way.  It's definitely not something I'd expect from Marvel. 

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Reply #27 on: March 13, 2017, 02:21:43 PM

I love this show.  Given what I know in the comics, nothing/everything/somethings/all the things could be real.  Or not.  They do pretty good on the creep factor with the bobblehead boy and fatface.  (I'm intentionally not naming suspects).

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Reply #28 on: March 13, 2017, 03:50:11 PM

I think they've done well with the creep factor on just about everyone in the show.

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Reply #29 on: March 15, 2017, 02:33:11 PM


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Reply #30 on: March 16, 2017, 01:54:22 AM

Awesome! I don't mind waiting, that's fine. Really enjoying this. Shit, if I can wait for Rick & Morty I can wait for this to return.

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Reply #31 on: March 16, 2017, 04:33:34 AM

New season coming a year after the first seems perfectly standard, what's the bad news?

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Reply #32 on: March 23, 2017, 11:38:00 AM

That's great news, I was sure they'd ditch it for being so weird. Hopefully enough people continue to dig it. Because it's awesome.

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Reply #33 on: March 24, 2017, 08:04:03 AM

The latest episode was sooo good. That's how you do an info dump.

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Reply #34 on: March 24, 2017, 11:39:46 AM

My only issue with it was that the 'you've really been in a mental hospital the whole time and everything was just your crazy delusion' trope feels a bit old. But I get the point of it here, it's not really the same old same old.

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