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Reply #105 on: March 03, 2017, 04:29:24 AM

It looks to me as if the texture resolutions are lower on the WiiU, especially on the backgrounds. But the differences are small in that video - although I find the lack of detail sprites like the grass etc. quite noticable, I'm sure that's only because it's side by side with the Switch version.

At the end of the day if the cost of a Switch now isn't a big deal to you then fair enough, but I'd expect it to be difficult to find one right now and for the price to drop considerably in 6-12 months. I don't believe that a higher price point than a PS4 or XBone (especially if you include things like a decent memory card and back up battery, which most reviewers seem to think are mandatory) is sustainable past the initial rush.

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Reply #106 on: March 03, 2017, 07:05:17 AM

Son bought a WiiU that's been gathering dust since he found out his school friends have PS4s. Guess I'm getting Zelda for that, and while he plays Overwatch I can play Zelda. Woo.

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Reply #107 on: March 03, 2017, 07:52:09 AM

Found a stock of over ten Switches at a Target near my office, but they are all Grey so I passed.

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Reply #108 on: March 03, 2017, 08:31:02 AM

Found a stock of over ten Switches at a Target near my office, but they are all Grey so I passed.

Color should have nothing to do with that correct decision.

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Reply #109 on: March 03, 2017, 09:10:52 AM

Wii U version runs at 720p and 30fps. Switch version runs at 900p and 30 fps while docked and 720p and 30 ffps undocked. The Switch version also runs more consistently at 30 fps (Wii U dips more frequently below 30 fps) and supposedly has better draw distances in some places.

Edit: Oops didn't see Cyrrex's edit on the previous page, his list of differences is more complete:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=25420.msg1455098#msg1455098

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Both launch on the same day, March 3.
Both have a frame rate of 30 FPS.
Both versions of the game offer the same content.
On a TV, the Nintendo Switch version of the game renders in 900p while the Wii U version renders in 720p.
The Nintendo Switch version has higher-quality environmental sounds. As a result, the sound of steps, water, grass, etc. are more realistic and enhance the game's open-air feel.
The physical copy of the Wii U version will require 3 GB of available memory on the Wii U system or an external drive.
Some icons, such as on-screen buttons, differ between the two versions.
A Special Edition and Master Edition of the Wii U version are not available.
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Reply #110 on: March 03, 2017, 02:41:10 PM

The hype around Zelda is pretty intense but I was never a Zelda person and I have a Wii U (yeah, yeah) so after I've gotten tired of Mass Effect I may give it a try on there first before deciding whether or not to get a Switch (assuming Nintendo actually makes enough).
That also assumes Nintendo makes enough copies of the Wii U version, which is already sold out through the normal channels. Smells like another Xenoblade Chronicles fiasco which oddly enough was also made by Monolith Soft.
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Reply #111 on: March 03, 2017, 06:02:38 PM

I got it as a digital download. It's not like I need to worry about saving room for a ton of great Wii U releases coming up.
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Reply #112 on: March 03, 2017, 09:40:57 PM

I got it as a digital download. It's not like I need to worry about saving room for a ton of great Wii U releases coming up.

i have played my wii u exactly once
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Reply #113 on: March 04, 2017, 01:08:54 AM

Mine was used strictly for 8 player Smash Bros. Tournaments, and occasionally Mario Kart.
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Reply #114 on: March 04, 2017, 01:34:08 AM

I have actually got more mileage out of mine than I would have expected.  My 5 year old has played a thousand hours of Mario on the thing, and both of the last two Zelda remakes have been played a lot as well.  Even some of the old Zeldas from their store.  Not much beyond that, however, which probably proves that Nintendo should really just be making first party games and not consoles.

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Reply #115 on: March 04, 2017, 06:12:22 AM

Played BOTW for around 4-5 hours so far. It's not feeling like the best game ever made (nor would I expect it to at this point in the game) but it's enjoyable so far. There's a very slight Assassin's Creed vibe in the sense that they have you climbing around at times in a way I'm not used to in Zelda games and they even have you climbing towers to unlock parts of the map.
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Reply #116 on: March 04, 2017, 10:50:15 AM

Among Mario Kart 8, Mario 3D World and Wind Waker HD I've probably spent a few hundred hours playing n my WiiU. That being said I probably won't spent another 400 Euro an a device to play two games on it.
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Reply #117 on: March 06, 2017, 09:11:29 PM

Got a Switch. Breath seems great.

The switch however is a total piece of shit.

As one of my friends said they should have called it the Nintendo Zelda.
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Reply #118 on: March 07, 2017, 02:40:45 AM

Bought BotW for the WiiU because I didn't feel like paying $500 for a glorified Zelda hardware dongle yet again. Great, great game. Breath of the Wild is probably the best game Nintendo has ever made.

They couldn't even be bothered to integrate the WiiU tablet controller though. It does literally nothing in that game. It doesn't even display the map or your inventory. It shows a black screen with the BotW logo and that's it. It doesn't even output game audio unless you play the game on the tablet controller. Still drains the battery though.

BotW being in development for WiiU was clearly a lie, they always intended it to be a Switch game because this game has no features exclusive to the WiiU version. The game doesn't even bother to tell you that the battery of the WiiU tablet has died if you play it on a Pro Controller.

Oh and the person that thought it would be a good idea to put jump on 'X' on the default move set should be slapped repeatedly.
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Reply #119 on: March 07, 2017, 02:56:48 AM

My understanding is that they actually disabled the Wii U specific features, presumably so that it wouldn't offer advantages over the Switch version.
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Reply #120 on: March 07, 2017, 05:45:56 AM

That would be bloody stupid if true. Then again Nintendo would absolutely do something like that... My issue is that the WiiU tablet can't go in the power save mode (it always displays the Breath of the Wild logo and the 'Play on WiiU tablet' hint) and so the battery is dead after a few hours of play, even though I don't use it. (Playing BotW on a WiiiU Pro Controller). ... and since you bloody well need the tablet to do anything with the WiiU it's really annoying.

The WiiU version is fine by the way. It only runs on 720p (the Switch version runs on 900p when docked) and it has a few issues with stutter and pop in but nothing really dramatic so far.

720p/900p at 30 fps for a launch title unfortunately points to the Switch being rather limited performance-wise. Especially if you consider that BotW is using cell shading and other types of visual trickery and is not really aiming for photo realism. It's still a very gorgeous game don't get me wrong. More often than not though it's because of Nintendo's mastery of environmental design and animation and not because of raw graphical power. It would have been significantly better if they had opted for a NVidia Tegra 2 instead of the Tegra.

I can't imagine any current AAA title being able to run on the Switch without a significant graphics overhaul. So I don't expect the Switch third party support to be any better than for the WiiU. Given the glacial pace at which Nintendo releases first party titles and given that the Nintendo second party developer ecosystem is dead and has been for a long time I'd be surprised if the Switch actually manages to get a significant number of titles.

Nintendo hasn't even managed to put out a WiiU exclusive Zelda in 4 1/2 years. So I'm looking forward to one of each Zelda, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Splatoon and Pokemon a few "New Super Mario" remixes and not much of anything else. I wouldn't even be surprised if they didn't put out a new Metroid Prime or Metroid game.
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Reply #121 on: March 08, 2017, 12:24:13 AM

I, too, am a bit cheesed by the stupid lack of support for the WiiU tablet.  On the other hand, BOTW appears to be moving a lot of switches out the door, so you can sorta see why they wouldn't want to put such a significant added feature on the WiiU version.  It doesn't really change the game much, but it is pretty glaring when you consider both the last two remakes of old Zelda games did it quite nicely.

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Reply #122 on: July 15, 2018, 04:39:02 PM

ARISE!

I finally got around to picking one of these up, along with Super Mario Odyssey which is a really great Mario game. Octopath is probably next on my list, and/or Xenoblade Chronicles 2. What else is out there that's really worth playing?

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Reply #123 on: July 15, 2018, 05:09:59 PM

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Reply #124 on: July 15, 2018, 07:31:17 PM

I liked Battle Chef Brigade quite a bit.
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Reply #125 on: July 15, 2018, 10:04:20 PM

Breath and Xenobakde are good. The latter is fucking enormous, Iím not sure Iíve scratched the surface at chapter 3 and 50 hours. Also darkest dungeon as a portable option is good.

Iíll fully admit to buying Skyrim on it too, playing it from bed last winter was awesome.
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Reply #126 on: July 15, 2018, 11:07:43 PM

I'm not going to lie, I like Golf Story personally.
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Reply #127 on: July 16, 2018, 11:46:49 AM

If you like movement dependent exploration and challenging combat Hollow Knight is a great pick up.

If you're into RTT games then I strongly recommend Fire Emblem Warriors.


If you want multiplayer Splatoon 2 and Mario Tennis Aces will be very satisfying with their gameplay fundamentals. The way content is structured might irritate you but the gameplay of each more than make up for it.


OP is assuming its somewhat of a design-goal of eve to make players happy.
this is however not the case.
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Reply #128 on: July 21, 2018, 08:14:10 PM

I have a nagging feeling that the Switch is WiiU 2.0 for me.  I own two games for this damned thing and it's been out for two years.

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Reply #129 on: July 22, 2018, 12:26:02 PM

ARISE!

I finally got around to picking one of these up, along with Super Mario Odyssey which is a really great Mario game. Octopath is probably next on my list, and/or Xenoblade Chronicles 2. What else is out there that's really worth playing?
What kind of games do you like?

In addition to what's already been mentioned, for Nintendo-exclusives if you like side-scrolling platformers there's Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze.
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Reply #130 on: July 22, 2018, 01:54:16 PM

I've got a fair amount on the Switch.

Breath of the Wild - Goofy and awkward at first, but it's the best Zelda game I've ever played.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - This is a top 5 JPRG. Also, game doesn't end at finish. You've got a NG+ or you can try the optional world bosses. Just loads of content.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - family loves this. It's really easy to just pick up and play.

Mario v. Rabids: Kingdom Battle - Nice Xcom light. If the Rabids annoy you, I might skip it. 

Super Mario Odyssey - fantastic game. Just a delight even with how f'ing bad I am at platformers.

Nintendo Labo - the boy got this for his birthday. It's pretty neat.

Some downloaded games:

Stardew Valley - it's portable Stardew Valley. Family sunk hundreds of hours into this.

Minecraft - it's Minecraft. Played a lot of this split screen with my son.

Overcooked - I liked it, but the family found it too frustrating.

Hollow Knight - again, I am shit at platformers. This is a lovely looking, super hard (for me) Metroidvania. It's cheap, so it's probably worth it for the aesthetics alone.

I'll probably pick up Octopath Traveler and Mario Tennis at some point. Also, there's a SMT coming to the Switch.

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Reply #131 on: July 22, 2018, 04:45:00 PM

SMT is a big reason I pulled the trigger. Xenoblade and Mario Kart are probably my next 2 purchases. Tried to grab them at Gamestop this weekend because I've got trade in credit and a B2G1 coupon, but literally no store in a 50mile radius has 3 good used games (or 2 games + a pro controller).

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Reply #132 on: July 22, 2018, 06:55:33 PM

If you want to eventually play online, I wouldn't pick up used games. I've heard stuff about online eligibility being tied to the original cart owner.

BTW, the first part of Xenoblade is really slow. But it does pick up and keeps adding systems/quirks for you to play around with.

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Reply #133 on: July 23, 2018, 12:38:12 AM

I don't usually like tactics style games, but Rabbids was a lot of fun.  Zelda is very good, as is Odyssey.  I'm waiting for metroid......I hope it's amazing.
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Reply #134 on: July 23, 2018, 10:05:08 PM

BTW, the first part of Xenoblade is really slow. But it does pick up and keeps adding systems/quirks for you to play around with.
Good to know; picked it up earlier today. I dislike the voice acting and feel there are a lot of cutscenes that should be "Press A to advance dialog" bits; otherwise I'm enjoying it.

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Reply #135 on: July 23, 2018, 10:24:17 PM

There's a Japanese language track available for download.

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Reply #136 on: August 02, 2018, 09:24:58 PM

There's a Japanese language track available for download.


That'll help, thanks. Still annoyed at the numerous cutscenes that should be VN-style dialog screens instead. This might be on me, since I'm playing exclusively in handheld mode, often muted with a TV show of my wife's choosing on in the background. Color coated subs or something would go a long way to helping me keep things straight.

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Reply #137 on: August 06, 2018, 09:39:27 AM

Octopath art style is great, IMO.

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Reply #138 on: August 10, 2018, 10:11:35 PM

I really want to like XC2 but it isn't easy. The frequent one-shot-wipes from the roaming level 80s are getting really old, and the sidequests feel like old school MMO bullshit. "Find my son" Ok, found him. "Before I go back to dad, find me 7 stupid weeds" Quick travel, harvesr, repeat literally 40 times. "Oh you found my son and his weeds? Go buy me acorns that cost 30k gold and I'll give you 500 gold. Or go farm trash to trade for them, I guess." swamp poop Shaking fist Mob

The combat is also super terrible solo, since your first Blade is a rogue so none of your positional stuff works. Once I got a tank it got much better. I'm really hoping to have a full party soon so I stop dying to dumb nonsense.

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Reply #139 on: August 10, 2018, 10:38:54 PM

Don't do side quests when not full party.  Just barrel through the story at that point. Salvage for cash. Don't sweat positional nonsense, just make sure you're timing your strikes right and taking advantages of combos and party meter.

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