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Reply #70 on: January 13, 2017, 10:13:37 PM

I am so sick of motion fucking anything
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Reply #71 on: January 14, 2017, 04:49:54 PM

This is just ridiculous. The multiplayer voice chat is a smart phone app:

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Instead of having some sort of bulky gamer headset, youíll be able to do it right off your smartphone, put in your earbuds that you use for your standard mobile device. We think thatís a pretty sweet solution. Thatís part of the overall opportunity that we see in a subscription service.

So you pay a subscription and have to use your smartphone to chat with the people you're playing with instead of just plugging earbuds into your controller? What? WTF? I seriously do not understand what planet Nintendo live on, or how they're still in business.

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Reply #72 on: January 14, 2017, 05:30:56 PM

nintendo sucks at online

we've known this since online was a thing

they will never, ever change
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Reply #73 on: January 15, 2017, 08:14:33 PM

It's definitely less of a gamble than the WiiU was and this has a proper name to differentiate it. Shame about everything else.

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Reply #74 on: January 16, 2017, 02:50:05 AM

This is just ridiculous. The multiplayer voice chat is a smart phone app:

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Instead of having some sort of bulky gamer headset, youíll be able to do it right off your smartphone, put in your earbuds that you use for your standard mobile device. We think thatís a pretty sweet solution. Thatís part of the overall opportunity that we see in a subscription service.

So you pay a subscription and have to use your smartphone to chat with the people you're playing with instead of just plugging earbuds into your controller? What? WTF? I seriously do not understand what planet Nintendo live on, or how they're still in business.

You make it sound like you'll have to chat through your phone which hardly seems like their intent. It sounds like they want you to authenticate yourself through your phone. Since for most phones it literally represents their digital life it's much easier to enforce identities and social lists to their standards.


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Reply #75 on: January 16, 2017, 03:11:52 AM

No, chatting through a "smart device" app really is their intent.

http://www.nintendo.com/switch/online-service/

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Online lobby and voice chat

Our new dedicated smart device app will connect to Nintendo Switch and let you invite friends to play online, set play appointments, and chat with friends during online matches in compatible games─all from your smart device.

A free, limited version of this app will be available for download in summer 2017.

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Reply #76 on: January 16, 2017, 06:34:10 AM

Only Nintendo would feel it would be easier to deliver voice chat over a pile of assorted hardware and software that they have no control over instead of the dedicated, vertically integrated, completely in-house console they've built.

Amazing, really.
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Reply #77 on: January 16, 2017, 09:29:37 AM

Interestingly my son and his friends already use their cell phones to chat while gaming.  Doesn't matter if it is Steam or a console.  So I think you guys are just old.  Not wrong, just old.
Using wifi instead of cell to chat would actually help these guys to get a more reliable connection.

Additionally, my son watches YouTube on his phone while playing games.  I don't get it.

The middle-school crowd is all worked up about Splatoon 2.  Also they somehow completely ignored the PSVR and played Smash Bros all weekend.  Very excited about the Switch.  We will see how the grades and scout rankups look when the time arrives.

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Reply #78 on: January 16, 2017, 10:23:47 AM

It's worth noting that children have terrible taste and are pretty stupid.

That's part of being a child.
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Reply #79 on: January 16, 2017, 12:45:20 PM

No argument.  See: Popularity of FFVII

I bet they sell a lot of Switches, though.

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Reply #80 on: January 17, 2017, 05:25:04 AM

I know a couple of late 20-somethings who were excited about the Switch but now are not, mostly because of the pricing in the UK which is egregious.

But I totally take your point about oldness making the smartphone chat thing seem stupid. And Schild's point about young people being stupid.

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Reply #81 on: January 18, 2017, 11:35:30 AM

I definitely want to play the new Zelda, but I don't see any reason to buy a switch instead of getting it on the Wii U.

RE: motion controls, the only games I ever thought provided a worthwhile experience with motion controls were Skyward Sword and the Wii U Mario Kart. Swinging my sword around in Skyward Sword worked well enough to be fun and was pleasingly visceral.  I kept thinking "this would have been my favorite thing ever when I was ten," and I think anyone who didn't enjoy that experience must have been incapable of letting themselves go and buying into the game's fantasy.  At the most basic level, playing that game was fun.  Driving around in Mario Kart is similarly fun in an elemental way even though you can't control the game as precisely with motion controls.  All this is to say that I have a lot of sympathy for what Nintendo has been trying to get at over the last ten years, and I think it's unfortunate that there's been so little buy-in from gamers or developers for alternative control schemes. Or in other words, what's wrong with gimmicks if they fill you with joy?
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Reply #82 on: January 18, 2017, 12:26:07 PM

Wii was enormously popular because of the motion controls.

On the other hand, the gimmicks usually don't fill me with joy, they fill me with frustration.
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Reply #83 on: January 18, 2017, 04:12:48 PM

No argument.  See: Popularity of FFVII


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Reply #84 on: January 18, 2017, 04:16:06 PM

I've gone full circle with games consoles. I just want to play Mario Kart. Games for adults on the adult consoles just don't interest me any more.
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Reply #85 on: January 18, 2017, 04:18:45 PM

No argument.  See: Popularity of FFVII

I bet they sell a lot of Switches, though.

I'm sure they will sell all 2 million Switches they're launching with, because forced scarcity works wonders to push your stock in predictable ways.
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Reply #86 on: January 18, 2017, 04:43:54 PM

No argument.  See: Popularity of FFVII


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I'd honestly rather replay 13 than 7.  awesome, for real

I almost want a Switch just for an improved handheld with launch Zelda.
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Reply #87 on: January 18, 2017, 06:38:19 PM

I'll buy one if this is what I'm getting instead of a 4DS, but not at launch.
Wii was enormously popular because of the motion controls.

On the other hand, the gimmicks usually don't fill me with joy, they fill me with frustration.
It was enormously popular, but not with core gamers. I was working at Gamestop for the Wii's whole life cycle, and we sold a ton to older adults and nursing homes. The biggest problem Nintendo had, though, was that these folks were largely content with Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort; there were a few other games that would get them to spend money (Wii Fit, Just Dance) but very few of our Wii customers converted into regular shoppers.

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Reply #88 on: January 23, 2017, 04:34:53 AM

I'll buy one if this is what I'm getting instead of a 4DS, but not at launch.
Wii was enormously popular because of the motion controls.

On the other hand, the gimmicks usually don't fill me with joy, they fill me with frustration.
It was enormously popular, but not with core gamers. I was working at Gamestop for the Wii's whole life cycle, and we sold a ton to older adults and nursing homes. The biggest problem Nintendo had, though, was that these folks were largely content with Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort; there were a few other games that would get them to spend money (Wii Fit, Just Dance) but very few of our Wii customers converted into regular shoppers.

This is simply anecdotal. Wii had a high software attachment ratio.

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Reply #89 on: March 01, 2017, 07:26:54 PM

Tweet from a trusted longstanding reviewer: "Right now, I'm playing what might just be the greatest game I have ever played. In my life. Ever." One of his co-workers revealed it is the new Zelda. He would be playing it on Switch.

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Reply #90 on: March 02, 2017, 09:26:04 AM

tl;dr - The boy did indeed impress us and earned a Switch.  I do not, however, know how to get one tomorrow.

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Reply #91 on: March 02, 2017, 09:44:46 AM

Wife wants to wait until my son's birthday. It's in June.  Facepalm

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Reply #92 on: March 02, 2017, 09:45:15 AM

BOTW sounds really good (although the 'Greatest Game Ever' rhetoric coming out of reviewers always makes me wary) but not £300+ good.

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Reply #93 on: March 02, 2017, 09:49:20 AM

BOTW sounds really good (although the 'Greatest Game Ever' rhetoric coming out of reviewers always makes me wary) but not £300+ good.
+1. The kids might be getting one of these for christmas, provided BOTW isn't the only good game out by then.

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Reply #94 on: March 02, 2017, 09:54:16 AM

Splatoon 2 is on the Good Game list.  Will it be out in 2017?  Who knows?

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Reply #95 on: March 02, 2017, 05:04:47 PM

BOTW sounds really good (although the 'Greatest Game Ever' rhetoric coming out of reviewers always makes me wary) but not £300+ good.

Despite everything I said in the Horizon thread about not wanting to play some games on a PS4 standard rather than a Pro, I'm absolutely willing to play BOTW on the WiiU rather than buy a Switch right now.
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Reply #96 on: March 02, 2017, 05:47:23 PM

That will probably save you a lot of irritation.

The boy insists that Splatoon 2 will be out this summer, and since he has become entirely capable of collecting reliable info from the internet, I'll trust him.

He concocted a plan where we stop by Wal-Mart on the way to school (since Target opens at 0800) and see if they have one.  We both agree that we want the red/blue one and won't even consider a grey one.

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Reply #97 on: March 02, 2017, 07:06:47 PM

Good luck.

You may even want to check with WalMart tonight around midnight.  Though if yours is anything like the ones here they don't even know they have shit to put out until the day after release.  Mine seems to believe  release date is the day they should schedule the overnight shift to stock.

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Reply #98 on: March 02, 2017, 09:26:23 PM

I remain uninterested in Nintendo consoles. I'm not sure when it happened but I seriously just stopped caring about 99% of Nintendo's properties at some point.

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Reply #99 on: March 02, 2017, 09:28:13 PM

I remain uninterested in Nintendo consoles. I'm not sure when it happened but I seriously just stopped caring about 99% of Nintendo's properties at some point.

I thought I was uninterested. I'm suddenly caring about this like I cared about the original Wii (and bought one on launch day after not even caring until then).

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Reply #100 on: March 02, 2017, 09:49:08 PM

The hype around Zelda is pretty intense but I was never a Zelda person and I have a Wii U (yeah, yeah) so after I've gotten tired of Mass Effect I may give it a try on there first before deciding whether or not to get a Switch (assuming Nintendo actually makes enough).
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Reply #101 on: March 02, 2017, 09:51:14 PM

Nintendo ALWAYS understocks its consoles on launch to drive up the "we must have this!!!!" part of the brain. Rarity makes people want things more. Its one of their shady business practices that made me give 2 fingers to Mario years ago.

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Reply #102 on: March 03, 2017, 01:40:24 AM

Do we know if there are any important differences between the WiiU and Switch versions of BOTW?  I have a WiiU, and there is no time I am getting a Switch anytime soon.  And am a big Zelda fan, as are the kids.

Sorta Edit:  I found a list of differences.  I doubt they matter much, but here they are:

Both launch on the same day, March 3.
Both have a frame rate of 30 FPS.
Both versions of the game offer the same content.
On a TV, the Nintendo Switch version of the game renders in 900p while the Wii U version renders in 720p.
The Nintendo Switch version has higher-quality environmental sounds. As a result, the sound of steps, water, grass, etc. are more realistic and enhance the game's open-air feel.
The physical copy of the Wii U version will require 3 GB of available memory on the Wii U system or an external drive.
Some icons, such as on-screen buttons, differ between the two versions.
A Special Edition and Master Edition of the Wii U version are not available.
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Reply #103 on: March 03, 2017, 02:03:09 AM

[/url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgT6KpNnILc]Here's[/url] a side-by-side comparison of the WiiU & Switch versions. Look pretty similar to me, although the Switch is brihter and more vibrant. You can see more differences when it gets to outside scenes with grass etc. being apparent on the Switch. I've seen people on Reddit saying that there's FPS drops on the WiiU in towns etc.

Personally if I had a WiiU I'd be happy to play it on that for now but I am also an incredibly patient gamer (as well as having no money) so I'd probably be just as happy to play it in 2 years time for £10 or whatever.

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Reply #104 on: March 03, 2017, 03:09:15 AM

Much of those difference appear to be contrast/brightness related.  I mean, I can see other differences, but I am guessing it won't bother me.  And I wonder if those are on the built in screens or on a TV/monitor, I imagine that is an important distinction.  See how I am talking myself into this?  Pretty sure I am going to grab the WiiU version.  Today.  I should really just go now.

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